>>16940134
Sociopathy is a poorly defined pop-psych term.
If we're going to assume it's synonymous with ASPD (antisocial personality disorder) then it's characterized by a genuine lack of empathy. It implies you just don't have the capacity to feel remorse for your actions beyond personal consequences.
Narcissism is more about perception of the self. It's pathologically seeing your own wants as more important than the needs of others.

So a malignant narcissist might understand, at a deeper level, that fucking someone over for personal gain is wrong despite doing it anyway.
A narcissistic "sociopath," on the other hand, only understands "right" and "wrong" in terms of consequences. Fucking someone over is a means to an end and the only problem with it is getting caught.

>>16940134
I self-diagnosed myself as all of them at 14.

>>16940134
Tomayto tomahto

>>16942484
how do they measure remorse?

>>16942484
I thought malignants were more sadistic and paranoid

>>16942484
>Sociopathy is a poorly defined pop-psych term.
So is autism yet I'm told everywhere from Facebook to Reddit that it's a valid brain-based disability that MUST involve structural abnormalities that are present from birth. That's why you can't recover from autism but are simply "masking" it because you still got that "autistic" brain of yours.
Obviously, it's pseudo-scientific garbage propagated and spread by a network of bots that are probably, I guess, linked to pharmaceutical companies. I have a hard time understanding why else a nonsensical concept is being propagated that clearly retards and prevents proper research.
But that's kind of the whole point with psycholgy/psychiatry. It's not meant to be true. It's just meant to gaslight you.

>>16942484
By these definitions, I am definitely a narcissistic person. I put myself first, and only when I am certain my needs are met do I take the time to focus on other people's needs. In fact, I mostly only focus on other people, just in case I might, at some point in the future, also require aid. It is just mutually beneficial for me to be a productive and healthy member of society, both for myself and for the rest of society, but mainly for myself.

I see no issue with my approach to life, I'm not harming anyone, and I'm even helping people as I go, yet this definitely makes me a "narcissist" going off the definition you provided. I suppose I should go spend a lot of money seeing a therapist and taking drugs to fuck my brain up now, for literally no reason other than to avoid a label for an abstraction.

>>16943408
Autism is pretty well defined, actually. It's just that the boundaries are somewhat arbitrary. That and the trendiness of the diagnosis means psychiatrists should take greater care when assessing the patient for it than they generally do.
Self diagnosis is an especially big problem right now.
Self-diagnosed "psychopaths" are mostly undiagnosed autists who conflate social retardation and arrested development (particularly teen angst well into adulthood) with le cool and edgy "dark triad" shit.
Self-diagnosed autists are mostly just normies who want an excuse to be quirky and weird.

>>16943793
Take special note if the word "pathological." It's very explicitly part if the definition that it must cause problems. This is true of any psychological disorder. It's not a disorder if it's not causing problems.
Taking care of yourself before others is normal. Fucking people over for trivial personal gain is not. That's narcissism.
Being discontent with your lot in life is normal. Dwelling on existential dispair to the extent that it's preventing you from taking care of yourself is not. That's depression.
Etc.

>>16943832
Fair, I misunderstood that part. Thank you for clarifying it for me. Yes, it seems I was over-simplifying it.

I will say, it is something about myself that I've tried to improve upon as I've gotten older. When I was younger, I would only focus on myself, I really never went out of my way for anyone, but I never really went against people either, I would never cut in line or cheat or steal or lie or do anything to put others beneath me in order to get ahead. But, I wasn't generous or kind or warm to people either, I just maintained a neutral stance, non-aggression, and like, live and let live kinda vibe. It wasn't until like my mid twenties I started opening up more, about the time I was finishing up college.

I'm still kind of a loner and a robot though. I'll probably die an incel since I've kinda given up on that. That's more depression and I'm well aware I have that, but that's a totally different subject.

>>16943793
being a narcissist isnt about putting yourself first. It is the belief that everyone else should also. A narcissist genuinely thinks you put their needs and wants above your own

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