i'm too autistic for a career in STEM

>>16945727
If I'm doing a bsc (hons) in creative music technology, which is basically a cursory mixture of audio-related programming, physics/electronics of sound/synthesis, and purely musical stuff like music theory and composition, but also I've taught myself calculus and am doing my dissertation on stuff related to spherical harmonics, would it be possible to switch lanes and do postgraduate study in a more traditional real science subject?

>>16945736
you will need to take at least 1 year of bac level courses before getting into even the most basic hard science msc program.

Any good self-help books for autistic STEM PhDs moving into industry?

>>16945736
>doing my dissertation
if you've got a PhD already you can probably do it yes

>>16945919
i think he means the bsc project/thesis.

>>16945970
I don't say "preparing for my IPO" when I host a garage sale

If we half do you, then we can sweep sexual control under the carpet. The government only wanted to do your taxes.

>>16945827
>https://www.amazon.com/Succeeding-Outside-Academy-Humanities-Sciences/dp/0700626883

How hard should it be to get an internship with CS without a project?

>>16945727
Cybersec postgrad here. If I can't find a job in 6 months after my masters should I just apply to Brown or MIT or something and get started on some AI doctorate? LLMs are kinda fun toys to play around with and it kinda sounds like the normies think that they're actually applicable-skynet-neverfail-technonukes.

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Feedback is welcome. No, I don't have real contacts to ask. Yes, that is a failure and a problem.

Last time someone said more real work bullets less academic bullets, that's done. Would of course tune this depending on position being applied to.

>>16946790
I don't know what to tell you. My advice is to apply to defense companies.

>>16946790
if you can't get a job I have no chance.

>>16946951
I do need to make clear that I have no chance, so this doesn't constitute any kind of meaningful lower bound on >>16946790 's chances of gaining employment.

My current contract runs out in June, then my career in research is over. I still daydream about joining the army but my knees probably won't be able to take it.

>>16946951
He is probably autistic. Even anime fan #1 got an job with a math phd, remember.

How to choose which career to pivot to after finish undergraduate in mathematics?
I am looking for the best according to these criteria:
- above median salary
- either seasonal with lots of free time in the year or good work life balance (<= 40hrs/week)
- is amenable to mathematics
- isn't too bound geographically

>>16947066
>undergraduate in mathematics
Who wants to tell him?

>>16945727
Currently a Pharm Tech at Walgreens, what STEM career should I pivot to with no degree at 24

>>16946231
Anyone?

>>16946231
>>16947360
If you mean a like personal project, then not very hard assuming you at least have a degree. At that point it's almost lottery, but it depends on where you live

>>16946951
I have a job it's just not very good and like >>16946956 said I'm autistic with nonexistent networking ability. You could have less credentials and be a more functional human being and I'm sure employers would prefer that.

>>16947367
Yeah like a personal project. I've began working on one and have some more ideas but I feel like it's no use bothering to apply when I have nothing really completed.

>>16947395
It's fine for it to not be completed, it's good that you have started working on it. The point is not to have shipped a product, the point is that you have something you can point to as a project you're working on and discuss a little bit about. It shows you don't just coast through coursework on autopilot but go a bit above and beyond, or whatever.

Definitely do not defer applying for internships until you have a project completed.

A long-distance degree from the national distance university of Spain in Spanish, recognized as a public university by all of the EU costs like 2k USD.

Do you guys have to use any kind of AI in your daily work? In my EE undergrad, there are several programming-related courses, and the AI seems to be able to handle all of them. This is probably because the programming there isn't as complex as SWE.

>>16947805
>This is probably because the programming there isn't as complex as SWE.
no, Claude can easily handle any and all programming assignments you'll ever get at a university. LLMs are limited by their context length, and uni projects never go beyond like 3-5kloc - so a flagship model from any company can "mentally keep track of" the entire codebase.

the problems start when the model can't read everything and has to start making guesses and assumptions, or just flat out misses that entire features or libraries exist. this leads to redundancy, re-implementation, breaking rarely used internal APIs, etc, spaghetti code.

though now with multi-agent workflows you can get AI to handle pretty large codebases with at least some success.

>>16947814
>>16947805
anyway, I do use LLMs but not for coding generally. mostly for quick initial research to figure out the keywords I don't know, for checking boilerplate text documents, for generating initial drafts of boilerplate text, etc

if you're in an R&D environment the chances are coding itself is only a small fraction of your time, you spend a lot of time tinkering with shit and trying to figure out what it even is you should be coding in the first place, or why it doesn't work as expected. I learned to code over a decade ago, I'm a fast coder, so I don't spend very long on the programming itself and the marginal time losses are definitely worth having a complete understanding of the codebase.

In corpo slop environments LLM use is now the norm, though, because you're working on atomic changes to large pre-existing codebases anyway. Might as well maximize your throughput and only have a human in the loop for responsibility.

>>16947066
Actuary but you'll need to grind a bit longer young blood

Can't find any jobs relevant to my studies in NLP... just a code monkey now. Is it a dead field here in Europe? Is PhDmaxxing a necessity for the big tech jobs in the field?

>>16947429
Thanks, anon! I've been struggling with this the past couple of years (I've been going to school part-time).

My anecdote
Got a biochem degree but denied med school 2yrs
Someone suggested I apply to Buyer roles
Started as basic bitch and moved to project manager in 1yr
Been here since 2020 and make 100k+bonus as 'technical project manager' in Materials
Not STEM, but it's more chill than I expected + i work from home

>>16947879
>just a code monkey now
why are you asking here if you already have a job? better than everyone else

I've got a PhD in computer science (computer vision, robotics) and I'm unemployable
>my studies
nigger you've only got an undergrad degree what fucking studies, what have you published?

>>16947873
I've read around that it's gonna be severely impacted by AI advances, especially with the strides it has made in mathematics recently.
Is that wrong/misleading?
Are you in the field? How is the vibe?

>>16946790
It is a good idea to remain with an employer for at least 2 - 3 years to avoid being considered a compulsive job hopper.

>>16948012
i have a bachelors and a research masters. My bachelor has some citations and my research master thesis has over 100

>>16948247
I've heard that, and intend to stick to it. In my personal opinion it's more important to show a concrete output rather than an arbitrary time spend, but others may think differently.

I've had two employers. One was the postdoc, for two years, after which the group moved. I'll have been at the current place for two years by this summer, which is the earliest point by which I'd realistically leave or even land a job.

>>16948599
ok cool you and literally everybody else you stupid underage faggot.

I completed my PhD because I was under the impression that it would give me the legal right to demand everyone around me refer to me as "Herr Doktor". Turns out this is considered inappropriate and passe.

What a complete fucking waste of time.

>>16949097
Do you want to sexually assault my PI with me?

>>16949163
I don't think you're physically strong enough to be my accomplice. We need another guy at least.

>>16945727
I will be starting applied mathematics major at 30-31 (next year). It sucks because I have to move to a different country, but I hope I can get my degree. It sucks not having a degree.
>inb4 why not pure math
No night schedules for pure math, only applied and choosing the courses correctly, I will be doing the same major.

>>16949199
Let's make this a party. Although I will say he is very very frail.

>>16945727
I'm going to finish my Physics master's thesis by the end of this summer, and can't decide to stay another 4 years for the PhD or get a real job. I'm tired of classes but the only way to be truly qualified in the field is to have a doctorate. My thesis is on purifying semiconductor materials, so I'm pretty sure I can get a job in the semiconductor industry. Which way is better?

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Have him do a thesis on semiconductor materials
Fill him with false confidence that he can job doing that
Now have him apply for some jobs
Now tell him about European patent attorneys

At the end of the day you just have to come to terms with the fact that tech jobs mainly exist to give troons the requisite financial resources to pay for surgery.

>>16950595
if that were the case you'd see troons in actual tech jobs (you don't; it's mostly redditor "geek" types)

>>16951048
What are you talking about half of anthropics AI safety team are transgender. AI companies are larded with these people all pulling down 7 figure salaries

>>16949097
Normalfags casualize everything to show that they are a "cool guy" and very tolerant and accepting. They think being an informal slob is how to demonstrate they are a "good person."
Just insist that they call you doctor until it gets uncomfortable and they'll either avoid you or acquiesce to resolve the tension. Either way it's a win.

Things are not going well

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>>16951101
>tech jobs
>AI safety team
I know this is bait but I choose to make this reply anyway

>>16951792
Those are highly remunerated tech jobs. The same is true of their pretraining and posttraining teams.

I'm going to do it, I'm going to let all my repressed rage out from years of being treated poorly at the hands of society out on my supervisor

>>16951894
You won't do shit

>>16951972
I'm filipino and 6'5 and Yadda Yadda Yadda you know the drill by now.

Currently majoring in an applied science, in the beginning I thought about pivoting to data science/analytics at one point or IT, like many naive STEM grads, or something but I have completely moved on from that due to being paranoid about AI. I am trying to collect all the applied lab skills and work with instruments I can now. Lab workers and technicians have always lived in a type of grey area between white collar and blue collar work after all and I hope this will somewhat immunize me.

Please tell me I will be fine.

>>16947805
have to? no. but my college has copilot and i'll use that for brainstorming ideas or thinking through ideas for problems i want to put on exams or developing project ideas, that sort of thing.

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>>16945727
Is it worth going for a Mathematics degree along with a Comp Sci degree (for the love of the game) if I'm retarded at math? I'm mainly interested in "Foundations of Mathematics" stuff and Category Theory, and I'm worried going through the whole degree is going to be too much. I don't need it for a job I'm just interested and have a free ride through college.

>>16952387
>Category Theory

How many years on HRT hon?

Attention:
Do not get an information science degree. It is not a science.

>>16952331
>pivoting to data science/analytics at one point
I thought that field was way past saturation now and in the free-fall part of the hype cycle.
>or IT
That is a slave ship on fire that also is sinking into the abyss.
> I am trying to collect all the applied lab skills and work with instruments I can now.
Good plan, AI may augment lab work but is still without the common sense that lab work requires.

How bad is it if I'm in my 30s and am STILL not sure what I want to do? I am studying CS but not sure what direction to go in. I've thought about doing embedded systems but I have no real experience with it and don't know the first thing about it but working on avionics, particularly with spacecraft, seems really cool. I've also thought about studying astronomy for a grad degree too. I just fucking love space, man.

>>16952502
Do you have a job?

>>16952504
Yes? What does that have to do with my post?

>>16952507
If you have an established professional career, you can study for fun, e.g. astronomy, without the pressure to get a job in the field.

>>16952524
True but what if I wanted to study stars or exoplanets for my job?

>>16952706
become a freemason and get connected with astrophysics blue lodge circles

>>16952706
Astronomy is the unemployment meme field of physics, being at the intersection of
>Very few jobs (no private industry)
>Very many applicants (lots of autists who followed their passion)

Basically you will have to become a senior academic for this to be your career. This involves the following:

>Finish up your degree (? years)
>PhD in astrophysics or equivalent (4-7 years depending on amerishart or not)
>Postdoc (2-5 years, has become mandatory in practice, some people do multiple)

After anywhere from 8-12 years you will then be in a position to APPLY for tenure track or permanent staff positions, if the latter even exists for your field. You'll be in your 40s and for the last decade will have made the salary equivalent of a fast food worker. TT jobs are extremely competitive, extremely political and hiring committees will outright disregard you by virtue of being old. If you do get the job, your role will be something between a middle manager/small business owner/onlyfans model. In the old days the 95% that fall out the pipeline would have eventually gotten employed in "software", we know how that is now.

I don't know shit about the avionics/aerospace engineering industry. Probably it is the engineering equivalent, but at least there is SOME industry, even if you're not competitive enough for the big ones you can probably eventually get something burning investor funny money in a startup fulfilling the impossible promises of some MDMA-addled balding sociopath.

>>16952781
Well fuck me that fucking sucks. Astronomy is like, the coolest shit.

Well fuck me. Anyone else know if I should just do aerospace engineering?

>>16952954
Amateur astronomers make discoveries all the time. Do aerospace and buy yourself a huge microscope

I went to college. I deserve six figures.

>>16952991
We all went to college. You deserve whatever you can get.

>>16952991
>>16953000
I am a ugly incel. I don't deserve anything let alone happiness.

>>16953000
I didnt. I got my PhD from a cereal box

Oh my fucking God the people in academia are the worst people I've ever met, I'm so glad I have bcakup plans and am not balls deep into this shit yet
Anon, no matter how interesting you think Biology, Physics, Chemistry, Math, etc. are, don't do it. DON'T

>>16952964
>Amateur astronomers make discoveries all the time
Wait seriously?

I may still actually do aerospace though. I feel silly for flip flopping all the damn time as an adult. Kek

>>16954055
I get that. I'm interested in science and technology but I probably couldn't do academia. That plus a lot of people in tech rub me the wrong way. I'd much rather hang out around artsy people desu

>>16955368
Yes, the great irony is that while professional Astronomy is a tough to get in field full of striving autists fighting over scraps, amateur Astronomy is quite literally the most accesible field for citizen science out of any, likely. People discover new comets or even galactic events from their backyard all the time. Hell, you don't even need a telescope, amateurs have made major discoveries sifting through other people's data sets.

>>16955592
Well damn. You got me, anon. Guess I really am going to go into aerospace then.

>>16946790
native language punjabi?

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company i interviewed with hasn't reached back. They said by the end of march... did i fuck up that bad? I called and emailed them and still nothing. This is not even the first time this happened to me.

I be being

>>16955874
unless you're hot shit you will simply get ghosted at some part of the hiring process 90-99.9% of the time. even if you manage to get some interview stages done they will still ghost you if they decide to drop you

nothing you can do besides keep applying.

>>16955874
Why do you attach emotionally to a job offer? Dude, just apply for other positions

>>16955700
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Shoemaker%E2%80%93Levy_9
>The comet was discovered by astronomers Carolyn and Eugene M. Shoemaker, and David Levy in 1993.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Levy
>David Howard (Doveed) Levy (born May 22, 1948) is a Canadian-American amateur astronomer, science writer, and discoverer of comets and minor planets. He is best known for co-discovering Comet Shoemaker–Levy 9 in 1993, which collided with Jupiter in 1994 in the first observed planetary-scale impact in the Solar System.

>>16955368
> probably couldn't do academia. That plus a lot of people in tech rub me the wrong way.

>>16954055
>the people in academia are the worst people I've ever met

It's the same shit everywhere. There's significant overlap between applied science academia and deep tech startup/small companies (which is where a lot of the relevant jobs for /scg/ are). In terms of subject matter, people, and dysfunctionalities.

I'm convinced that in any given field, academic or industry, for every 100 people there's probably 3 who know what they are doing. Those guys are probably all relatively unknown Germans working in run-of-the-mill positions who just assume everyone must surely know the basics.

>>16956212
>applied science / startups
>a lot of jobs
lol. lmao. checked the interest rates at any time in the past 3-5 years?

>>16956212
>Those guys are probably all relatively unknown Germans
also no, they're not fucking germans. the germans are always late and always contribute shit, they know the eastern european monkeys such as myself will carry them when the project deadlines come.

>>16956319
"a lot of the relevant jobs" is not the same as "a lot of jobs" and does not imply anything about the total amount of actual jobs, eastern european ESL-kun.

>>16956363
>a lot of the relevant jobs for /scg/
implies that
>there are relevant jobs
>there are relevant jobs in sufficient quantity for the cardinality of any subset of them to be described as "a lot"

I vehemently disagree with both implications, illiterate anglo monkey

yes, "a lot of the X" is used for relative prevalence. no, it is not used when the subsets are small.

>>16956373
If you seriously think the global STEM job market is like 5 jobs I can see why you never managed to escape your slavic scumhole.

I am just spent after a long week working my ass off in the math factory. Why don't you faggots pipe down a bit.

>>16950524
>Now tell him about European patent attorneys
Why so hung up on patent attorneys? Patent offices are on a recruiting spree just now. Rumours are that many patent offices are being flooded by AI generated patent applications and need people to handle the increased workload.

Has Linkedin gone too far or has it left the rails entirely?
https://xcancel.com/MLBFansWorld/status/2042642819651706939#m

>>16956588
>xcancel
kek

>>16956375
I have never seen any evidence to the contrary

>>16956504
Cease your silver tongued lies devil

>>16956987
What? So you don't like the sound of well paid government jobs you just cannot be fored from and with excellent retirement deals?

>>16945727
I Watched a video on the courses that Math students take in their first year in Oxford

I understand that oxford is a top uni, but still it is quite surprising to me that Oxford’s first year equals other universities’ first 2 years.

1- Introduction to complex numbers
2- Linear Algebra I and II
3- Introduction to calculus, Analysis I, III and III and multi variable calculus
4- Fourier Series and PDEs
5- Probability, Statistics and data analysis
6- Geometry, constructive mathematics; introduction to university mathematics
7- Groups and Dynamics
8- Computational mathematics

That covers about half of the things I will be studying at the uni I’m applying for

>>16957115
You realize, of course, that rankings are bullshit and Oxford is just another school with a great brand.

>>16957115
The undergraduate mathematics curriculum is fairly standardised in Europe due to the Bologna process.

>>16951636
It took me 13 years to complete a 4 yr degree. Im gonna demand people call me doctor just because I put the time in.

>>16957217
My friend did his PhD in 11 years. I did mine in 3.5. His doing a post doc now while I was forced into industry.

What can I do with a Bachelor of Science (Biology) besides being a lab technician?

>>16957364
Teach High School

>>16957365
I'd have to get a Edu degree for that

>>16945727
germany have a lot to teach the rest of europe about science and engineering.
i'm so tired of slavic and french people acting like they are intelligent human beings when everything they do ends in failure.

>>16957398
>germany have a lot to teach the rest of europe about science and engineering.
Specifically, what?

>>16957540
Protokoll and pedantry

>>16957362
>>16957217
it doesn't matter how long it took you it only matters how prestigious the group you did it with is

I did mine in 3.5 years, less than 3 if you discount 8 months of administrative waiting bullshit at the end, but it's at some no name eastern euro uni and research institute so I'm unemployable

Why is it that when I look at the admissions page for literally any university ever they always say "this isn't just academics it's about who you are as a person". And you're supposed to have ECs and passion projects and all that gay shit. Bitch, my passion is discrete calculus. My 'projects' are proofs that took more than a day to complete. The only extracurricular I do is studying computer science from random texbooks, and I fucking eschew webdev and software engineering so it's not like I'm gonna have any projects. Nigger I'd be right at home as an undergrad CS major, but I've got to do all this jerking off it seems. God fucking damn, why don't they just have me take an aptitude exam or some shit? Autists getting the short end of the stick as always, life really is one big high school.

>>16957928
it's so they can let nepo babies skip the line you underageb& retard

>>16958003
>underageb&
high school seniors are 18 where i'm from, not sure how it works in india though

>>16958016
>high school => no phd
so underageb&

>>16958016
Everyone under 25 is underaged for the purposes of career discussion.

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>>16958016
listen buddy I don't make the rules here

>>16958040
made me kek, here's your (You)
respect +

>>16957120
Well I think being oxford, they have a history that speaks for them
>>16957147
In Cambridge they don’t have a first year like this

>>16957928
>life really is one big high school.
Yeah it's complete bullshit. Luckily I've been been feeling inspired to actually work on some projects but I do hate how being genuinely neurodivergent just seems to repulse people.

On that note, what's some advice for getting hired to work in a research lab as a full ass grown adult?

>>16958133
>what's some advice for getting hired to work in a research lab as a full ass grown adult?

In what capacity and with what background? You can have lab techs who are tradies, PhD candidates require a master's (except US), postdocs require a PhD, anything tenure track you won't be getting if you're asking here. The only permanent positions are lab techs and tenure track, in select cases/institutions you can have permanent research staff but not always.

>>16958169
Also lab techs aren't necessarily tradies, they can have various uni degrees as well. It's just one of the few in-the-lab roles that doesn't always require a uni degree, I'm sure there's regional variations.

>>16958169
As an undergrad who's in his 30's. Would it even be worth it?

What about joining a STEM related club?

>>16958169
>in select cases/institutions you can have permanent research staff but not always.
in most institutions that are explicitly "research institutes" you've got sorta-staff researchers. it doesn't line up exactly with the academic tenure track. how permanent these positions really are depends on funding though, how much of your research group funding is provided by the institution itself vs how much is external grants

>>16958177
>As an undergrad who's in his 30's
>What about joining a STEM related club?

If you're currently in uni and want to work in a lab for a bit it should be very doable. You can just ask a professor if they have student projects available, or your uni might have e.g. program for summer projects. These are relatively low-stakes and low-commitment for all parties involved. Being in a real research group doing real research is quite different from labs done purely for learning or demonstration.

Assuming you're the same guy who was interested in astrophysics, amateur astronomy is among the most lively amateur science branches. There very well might be a relevant club at your uni, and there definitely will be one in your country (probably even more locally).

Getting a career in the lab is another matter.

Can have have a career in STEM while also being a wigga' thug?
I want to be a STEM luminary but I don't want to give up my thug wigga identity.
Like can I "roll up" to "da" research complex blasting "Do Yo' Chain Hang Lo'?"

>>16958237
Yes, I am that same anon.

Should I join a club for rocketry or satellites?

>>16958331
You're a retard but yes.

>>16957545
>Protokoll and pedantry
That reminds me of the German "Brief Introduction to Pedantry" in 12 volumes.

>>16958331
Sagger chads where we at.

The answer is yes and frankly having a bit of hood in you gives you an edge.

>>16958363
Is that because the academy is diverse and inclusive? Do they respect non-traditional perspectives on scientific inquiry such as those of the wigga' thug?

>>16958455
>>16958331
>>16958634

>having a bit of hood in you gives you an edge
It does. Middle/upper classes don't quite know how to deal with it. Being middle/upper class is still a much bigger advantage overall.

Dr. Wigger lasting more than ten seconds in a public school would be great for outreach virtue signalling. Though the point is to be there for the 10 sec it takes to get the photo and then never return.

>>16947805
My company is shilling AI hardcore and is actively tracking how often everyone is using it. The results are pretty mixed so far, but throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks is how you find out what's useful anyway.

Why is it so hard to land an internship in CS? Or do I just suck?

Who should I blame for not making it in academia?

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>>16959990
You know

>>16959990 >>16960023
Rather than blaming others and conspiracies, you will be better off building networks and helping your fellow men and woman.

>>16959961
Easy to explain: most jobs have evaporated in the LLM heat.

>>16947805
I work for the one company in the galaxy where the CEO decided we can only use copilot. So basically no AI anymore.

Prior to this, I vibe coded various things with Claude since I'm ass at coding and it is not really my job. Mostly some tens of lines to do little things here and there, and two data processing "apps" for longer term internal use. The latter were a few thousand lines of code and had some moderately heavy processing involved, and I was very happy with the result.

I've also used AI as a starting point instead of Google for various things since Google is ass nowadays. From figuring out background/places to look for the info I need, to listing products that meet my criteria, to estimating pricing for quote-only items (they can be OK at finding random producerement PDFs from a university in Czechoslovakia who bought that gizmo).

It's very useful for certain tasks but the moment you tell it to do something you do not understand yourself, you are asking for trouble. This kind of "outsourcing the thinking" is also something I see a lot of bullshitters do when they first get their own team, usually with poor results. You can outsource the labor, but you still need to be on top of what's going on.

>>16956415
more like meth factory, right
tired man

Should I un-delete my LinkedIn? Had a bit of an episode and wiped myself off the internet about a year back. Don't miss it but will Stacy from HR get the ick?

would you guys move for a job? I graduated recently from university with a master in physics but there are apparently zero jobs in my field in the area. Its all finance stuff industry starts 200km away. AI makes me think its a stupid idea to take the finance/programming job and rather to go for something that needs more hands on things.
Going for phd is a option I guess but I really don't want to waste away another 5 years for nothing.

>>16961352
>would you guys move for a job?
Of course. I moved halfway across the world for a job, no problems. It is more of a problem if you consider a 200 km move to be too much.
>I graduated recently from university with a master in physics but there are apparently zero jobs in my field in the area.
Can confirm, it is tough.
>Its all finance stuff industry starts 200km away. AI makes me think its a stupid idea to take the finance/programming job and rather to go for something that needs more hands on things.
At least it pays. There is also management consulting.
>Going for phd is a option I guess but I really don't want to waste away another 5 years for nothing.
As the FAQ points out, the most interesting jobs for a physicist requires a PhD. And if you cannot find a job in this clearly tough job market, doing a PhD is vastly better than suffering a 5 year hole in your CV.

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>job offer for $180k in Houston
>downside: 50 minute commute in morning, 1 hour going home
hmmmmmm. I honestly would've been OK with much less...provided it was hybrid or less of a commute. Really do not want to move. But no one else is biting. Really dogshit where you can have 10+ years in the field and your job options aren't great in a city as big as Houston.

>>16945727
84.9% of minors in the EU work?

>>16961590
No. "Youth" does not mean "minor" and generally goes to like 25 years. "Unemployment" generally means people who are all of: a) in the workforce b) actively looking for work c) not working.

The majority of 15-18 year old will be in school, therefore not counted as unemployed.

Would I hate my life if I tried to get into soil remediation and started as a field technician? Or doing hazmat jobs?

work in software for a social media company

I want to go back to school and study more physics and math in grad school

but I actually feel mental depression lingering when I think about physics too much

>>16961209
no. being mysterious builds aura and will make her pussy wet, so try to keep a low profile

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>>16961800
>but I actually feel mental depression lingering when I think about physics too much
Why??

t.Physicist

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I got an 86 on my magnetism and mutual/self-inductance exam in physics. It was probably my favorite unit in any class I've taken in college so so far and I've fucked around from major to major over the course of almost a decade lol. I'm excited for the rest of the EM classes in my EE degree

I’ve rotted in underemployment for around 4 years now, not the worst job, but I am embarrassed by my lack of goals, and recently, it feels like I’ve given up, as if I suddenly realized that I’m old.

It’s like a switch flipped and I gave up on my career. I feel like an old man. I feel sad. I really hoped for more, and thought I was smart. I feel like people pity me now at work. Or think I’m odd, because others are moving on and I’m stuck. I always think about how I should have done a phd, it’s better than rotting. How do other people get jobs so easily? I swear it feels like every other person gets massive help in starting their career… in reality, I guess I’m looking for some sort of advice or wisdom, possibly by someone who’s gone through this.

Math is my background

>>16962417
This is why we dont get math degrees folks

Do you have colleagues you know browse 'chinz?
I think I have one. He let his mask slip a few times and he dropped some *pills, although rather mild. He was clearly holding back.

>>16962471
I have lots who browse reddit and this is just reddit nowadays so no doubt many have at least dabbled in posting here

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>get ME bachelor degree 4 months ago
>apply to almost 70 jobs, get maybe 5 people calling me back or emailing for phone/zoom interview
>one progresses to an in-person interview which I drive 9 hours to (and back) and end up getting passed over for
>decide to get Engineer-in-Training certificate to improve my chances
>study for Mechanical FE exam for weeks, pass FE exam on first try and obtain EiT cert
>happy with myself, feel pride whenever I attach my EiT to an application now
>rejections have started rolling in again
I mean... maybe I have a better chance, right?

Is it bad to go straight into being a "project engineer" in some construction-adjacent company without being employed in a nominally design position? I'm worried because I read some reddit posts about it being bad to start with if I don't have technical experience. I only have my senior capstone project...

>>16962542
Do you have any alternatives?

>>16945727
How do I write in an academic tone for my thesis? I was getting 100% on my assignments when I was still doing coursework, but now my professor is telling me that my tone is no longer appropriate for thesis level work.
I tried using chatgpt to rewrite my work to match his, but it's a cointoss if it's competent or retarded. He was actually the one to "use ChatGPT as a tool", but he gave me no other advice on rewriting it. Should I throw in the towel and hire an editor, or is there a super good book out there that can help me?

>>16962725
Writing style depends on the field. I get chewed out for using "we" in reports while this is expected in math papers.

>>16962725
You gave no example of your writing so can't say if your PI is just nitpicking or not.
As >>16962736 says, it depends on the field. Math writing is indeed done only with a stick in the ass. I am in applied physics so there's some leeway. You did a lit review, I hope? Just follow their style. See other theses, even better if they are from old students of your PI.
>ChatGPT
a great way to dilute your point in roundabout prose imo. Also you won't learn to write (if you care about it).

>>16962736
Really?
>>16962754
I would post it, but I don't know if that's a good idea on the internet. Anyway, You Are Not My Personal Army.
From what I can tell, he uses much stronger language and skimps over stuff. One of the few things he remarked upon seeing my work is that I cannot take the time to explain things: I should write as though my readers already understand the topic.

I found "How to Write a Thesis" by Umberto Eco, and it's okay so far. I hope it brings me some insight.

>>16962725
>tone for my thesis
One advice I heard a long time ago, when I did my PhD thesis, is that you have to stand up for what you write: this is what I believe!-kind of feel. Obviously don't go overboard. So avoid excessively guarded language for your thesis.
I still remember one of my lecturers pointing to a map, stating that the university might perhaps possibly be located around here, perhaps.

>>16962542
I'm almost in the same boat but 1.5 years ahead, but no EiT or FE... Everyone says just keep applying, but nothing ever happens. Even the technician positions ghost me...

>>16962663
I did well on some qualifying exam for an analyst state job but I really would rather be an engineer.

>>16961557
think I'll accept it and just deal with the commute. the money is too good to pass up.

Do normies really enjoy working more than studying? I hear it all the time that people on reddit wake up anxious that they have to go back to class. Is this how the cattle brain works?

I'm literally doing nothing in the office. Is this normal?

>>16963202
my career has been less stressful than my chemical engineering undergrad. Studying is fine. Worrying that the prof might put some nuanced minor detail bullshit on a test that could cause you to fail is awful.

>>16963217
You dont worry about your middle manager boss coming up with some bullshit? In my experience, corporate office politics and evaluations are completely opaque; while taking exams is completely transparent and open.

>>16963202
I'm a sperg and working is way less stressful. People say university is adult daycare but like 99% of people completely turn their brain off when they enter the workforce.

>>16963222
I'm good at what I do so management generally lets me just get on with it. Too spergy for politics.

They design machine learning conferences like this to break chuds like us

>>16962417
to be honest you aren't a minority here in stem or career generals but the majority. as ai expands corporations will automate much of the workforce and much of the entire economy. you should just sit back and watch now as we transition as a collective society. you'll be able to pursue whatever it is that your thinking then, but not now. or rip society and we get sui'ed to israel

>>16963760
>you'll be able to pursue whatever it is that your thinking then,
your lifelong ambition of being ground into phosphate paste to feed colonies of e. coli nanomachines?

>>16963760
The industrial revolution made most of the former jobs redundant, but the wealth created was not distributed equally, nor did the requirement to work for a living go anywhere.

AI will just accelerate the wealth inequality, and the only jobs left will be queueing to suck zillionaire dick in the service industry.

Dont know where to post this but plumbing is basically engineering. I've been a journeyman plumber for about 6 months and the pay is good for my age. I find the work too obtuse and complex to do by myself. Are ther any jobs that have less complex work day by day. I just cant handle being metally drained every day.

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WHY WAS THE HR LADY LAUGHING BETWEEN THE QUESTIONS ON THE PHONE SCREENING WTF AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>got bachelors in geology, mid gpa
>got job after college that has nothing to do with geology
>decent pay but doesn’t give me hard skills or credentials
How do I get into the field from this? Even entry level environmental remediation jobs want 5 years experience and the pay is total shit. A few times when I’ve looked for another job I applied to dozens of places and have gotten nothing back

I really don’t want to go to grad school

I'm undergrad engineering and I hate it. What do?
I got filtered, plain and simple.

>>16964176
Switch to pure math

>>16963215
if you're about to be laid off yeah

>>16964359
ruh-roh

>>16945727
based Romania

Where do you guys look for jobs?

Can I become anything other than some sort of shitty tech if I don't have an engineering degree and am mediocre at math? I like chem and am interested in GIS but idk if those combine for anything useful without lab credentials and stuff

>>16965598
good question. I just spent 2 hours pestering AI to collect a list of companies to target and figure out a strategy for getting contact info for people on the inside. I plan to send out about 100-200 cold emails over the next couple of weeks and visit a couple industry expos to stalk people in person
>>16965683
get in line buddy

t. engineering degree AND phd in a research-ish field

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Just started a new underpaid lab monkey job at a testing lab. I barely have room to breathe, when I'm finished one task I'm already moving on to the next one. I also have to use a timecard and it feels like they wring every minute out of you. I miss my old salaried position where I can come into work at 9:30am, have a one hour lunch break, and then go home at 4:30pm while no one gives me shit as long as I get work done. A lot of the guys here have been here for years and it's kinda depressing if I have to do this for the rest of my life desu

Anyone who works in machine learning is actually one of the most evil people on earth

Same goes for quant and FAANG

>>16966114
oh and don't let me forget the dreaded and most dastardly Patent Law

>>16966114
>>16966117
Eh, even as a CS student, I wouldn't want to go into any of those. I honestly don't see the appeal besides making a lot of money. But like you said, they're just so incredibly unethical.

>>16966117
>the Patent Law
no such thing
>>>/x/

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>>16966173
>Every single German IP is now public domain they do not believe in IP rights so they will NEVER profit from it

>>16966180
This is so revealing about your taste and overall weltanschauung

I hate to admit it but the haters and naysayers were right... I did not get the chance to rape my supervisor to death on copacabana beach during ICLR

>>16966666
if you were bigger and stronger you could've done it

>>16966749
He was too afraid to even show his face. Trust me, I'm large pal... Large and in charge.

Just got my undergraduate biology degree with a pre-med concentration. Anyone with a Biological Sciences degree share their career pathway? Just trying to brainstorm.

>>16966666
blessed quints will guide your way schizo anon inshallah

>>16963215
If you’re good at your job, yeah.

Look, I make ~$190k a year out the door. In a given year I solve maybe 3-4 problems (or prevent problems from happening) that total in savings to the company of ~$500k+. That’s all I have to do, earn my paycheck plus and it’s worth keeping me on the payroll regardless of how hard I actually work. Every manager knows this. You don’t get paid to work, you get paid to know shit and, when the chips are down, ass pull a solution.

>>16967104
>regardless of how hard I actually work. Every manager knows this.
managers understand the concept of opportunity cost. they could spend that 190k to save/make way more money than that. if you're just sitting there that means you (or someone else drawing your paycheck) could be utilized better.

Should I do rocketry, satellite, or robotics club at school? Or maybe astronomy?

>>16967394
are you also gonna ask us which hentai doujin to jerk off to?

>>16967401
I just don't want to get overwhelmed or find out that I'm in way over my head.

For context, I'm a CS student with somewhere between beginner and intermediate coding knowledge, and have some experience in embedded systems. Not much though.

Go into STEM they said, thinking jobs will never get replaced they said

>>16967405
Imma need to make sure you're not a jeet before I help you

>>16967429
I'm white, if that helps

>>16967405
clubs are things you do for fun, like jerking off to hentai. join one and see if you like it, why are you asking us here

>>16967405
Do robotics, usually they let you play with Lego

>>16967405
If your goal is to improve your employment prospects I would recommend robotics since it can give you skills that are transferable into other areas and there will be plenty of opportunity to play around with code. Rocketry could also be interesting although there is probably more room to experiment in the robotics club in terms of coding. Not sure what the satellite club does exactly. Unless you want to work in the space industry I wouldn't recommend astronomy.
>I just don't want to get overwhelmed or find out that I'm in way over my head.
It really depends on the club but if it's established with some members who give a shit they'll give you some guidance. For robotics there is also plenty of resources online since it's probably the most popular hobby involving electronics.

>>16966831
Any biology professionals that can respond to this? I'm a White American, don't worry.

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>linkedin jobs drying up
>indeed not any better
>career pages on company website are void too
>nothing from recruiter in weeks
>missed YET another hiring cycle
joever

You know what I don't even want to fucking know. I don't want to know. I don't want to hear about it.

>>16967685
>employment prospects I would recommend robotics
kek

t. phd in robotics (well technically CS but practically robotics)

I have taken 77 uni courses

>>16967944
one for every guy who fucked your mom last night

>>16967870
>think about how hard you worked to attain your STEM degree as you get in bed to be at your manual labor job in the morning
Fuck.

I got some stories about PhD students from our process engineer:
>A guy mindlessly tries to etch with ICP-RIE by using recipe that he claims "worked" by some other guy before him. The ICP-plasma power was set to 15W (which is like orders of magnitude below what is necessary to even start plasma) - obviously nothing happens. He got told by technician that he should turn plasma power higher which he blatantly refused and stood there for an hour trying to "etch" with plasma that wasnt even there. Then he got gold he'll get a noble price if he manages to do plasmaless plasma etching.
>Another guy tries to do lithography with exposure time of 5 seconds (which is much lower than needed to develop the photoresist, which is usually about 40s for the same light source). After it didnt work he tried, with 4 seconds, 3 seconds, 2 seconds (which obviously still didn't work). The technician told him then: "Have you tried 0 seconds?"
>One guy faked his results with some chip and light source. Conveniently by the time he was gone, all his samples disappeared. Another guy tried to replicate the results with a 1000 times better light source with wavelength tuning and all the fancy shit just to prove that the previous results were NOISE and he managed even to prove what kind of noise it was (turns out Y axis values were downscaled by 1 billion times). But he got the fire by the PI, not the guy who made the fake results in first place

half your grade is earned in the last 2 weeks of the semester
its not fair

Is it possible to get a STEM PhD if you are special needs?

>>16968290
Depends on what brand of tard and how intelligent you are. Being moderately to severely autistic is basically a prerequisite for theoretical high energy physics. If you're also dumb, look for fields with lots of women. I'm convinced a dead salmon could be awarded a PhD.

>>16968257
Its pretty fair. What were you doing the whole semester then whole time?

>>16968290
I am about to get one and I spent most of my youth in special ed and am basically incapable of holding down a job. I have gone through things emotionally and physically that I doubt anyone has felt before or since.

>>16966831
Go to med school duh. If you're too chicken shit you can always move to hospital lab monkey jobs; those pay well enough and you don't have to interact with anyone else besides your coworkers.

>>16968323
the work that was assigned

>>16966173
>no such thing
Please do go on...

>>16968409
Many are now recognising and saying this. There is a nefarious poster in this thread trying to instil false hope into the hearts of the STEMcels here that they may one day become employed in a respectful profession. No dice unfortunately as many are now realising...

>>16967896
That's why I wrote
>transferable skills
because there are about 3 jobs in the field of robotics.

>>16968399
Then you shouldn't have any issues to do the test that tests your knowledge about the work that you have been doing all that time, yes?

I have not had any success in my career because I've made it clear through my actions and crystal clear moral clarity that I'm not suitable to join the Epstein class (as one must if they get a job at a frontier AI lab).

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Life as an eng tech in a research group
>PI never to be found, generally barely acknowledges my existence
>Get given projects, I complete them and then it just goes dead silent
>Never looped in on shit on any level
>House nigga software tech who's been here since before the PI defended acts as if he's academic staff and dogs me around
>Work with asocial, unsocialized people whom I can't read and all social interactions are a coin flip
What the fuck? How do I not just check out when I'm basically a human version of an AI who assembles and tests and deploys electronics. Is this a universal experience or I'm actually in some form of autistic purgatory.

You should definitely fist fight the PI. Universally weak and evil people

Every day I get closer to my dream of being one of the scientists from Deus ex who you hit in the back of the head with the dragons tooth. I never asked for this lol 'memba that?

Why wasn't I just some flavor of business major why did I think I was special
class of 2020 here...been unemployed so long im not even unemployed

>>16968629
Ultimately the blame lies with society

>>16968604
The human version of AI is not you, its the worthless PhD students who cant into basic human interaction. The decent ones acknowledge and appreciate you a lot

>>16968428
This still doesn't make sense. Most countries have their patent laws and there are some international treaties too. This is perhaps 10 seconds of searching.
https://www.uspto.gov/patents/laws
Or are you the guy who was rejected?

>>16968560
>transferable skills
what transferable skills? the concept doesn't exist anymore. to get a job you need to have multiple years of experience in THE EXACT ROLE they are hiring for. if you can't hit the ground running day 1 with their entire tech stack and prior experience in the relevant regulatory environment you will never even get a rejection email

as a roboticist you will only ever hear back from places where you have a 100% exact match with the job ad. everyone else will just autotrash your resume.

the current meta is
>get your first job through nepotism
>spend the rest of your life doing that exact job or become unemployable when the job is deprecated

>>16968681
Nice try man, but I didn't just fall of the turnip truck yesterday... Although I drive one...

>>16956212
The 3% is probably close for the subset of people who understand the system well enough to improve it when something goes wrong. The German part is harder to evaluate. In my experience it is more about institutional cultures that either tolerate or punish people who say "I don't know." The people who know what they are doing tend to have that in common I think more than any nationality.

>>16967870
Yes.

>>16952781
This is accurate for most countries. The 2-5 year postdoc range undersells the current situation in some subfields, three consecutive postdocs of two years each is not rare now. The being in your 40s part is correct and is also why the pipeline stays narrow regardless of who tries to enter it, not only because it selects for people willing to absorb the cost but because anyone with other options has left by then. The part about industry alternatives, I am not sure what is true about that now actually.

thought I could pivot into accounting as a math major and it turns out they're ultra autistic about pre requisites. it would take me an additional 2 years or more of schooling to even be allowed a license even if i passed the test now. only accounting majors can be accountants what an insanely gatekept field
so im giga fucked

>>16968315
>I'm convinced a dead salmon could be awarded a PhD.
Yepp. The entire PhD pipeline will have more trouble if you fail than if you graduate with a shitty thesis. So it's not a question if you succeed to get PhD, but rather if you try hard enough to fail at it.

>>16968604
>people whom I can't read and all
that's a good thing from their pov though

>>16969062
graduate committees are there to basically baby you through the process as much as they do in undergrad. someone graduating is still more money in the pocket than someone being asked to leave after a year or two.
maybe it's different in a T10 school but yeah i was pretty surprised at how unchanged the cohort was from undergrad to graduate SCHOOL
degrees really are just a vanity thing

>>16968347
>I am about to get one
>basically incapable of holding down a job
WTF how? I am genuinely curious. Do you run around naked throwing poop at people and screaming racial slurs on the regular?

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>>16968604
Do engineering grad students not run the measurements and experiments themselves? I even read the theses of some students in graduate Engineering programs and on the acknowledgements they always have a list of bajillion thank you's to the techs who measured their samples. What the fuck are they doing all day?

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>>16969125
M8 the engineering grad students here are all foids who's dad is in the faculty or somewhere else up high. One of them turned down a 100k a year job out of university to pursue a masters quite literally to stick it to the man and "win on merit" whatever the fuck that means. I don't relate to any of these pompous urbanites at all. I am grateful I have a decent paying job but my God it's absolutely blackpilling doing the bidding of limp wristed redditors for a paycheck.
>>16969064
All that's doing is making me spiral in my head that they will silently fire me at the contract renew point. Then they'll have to onboard another semi normal person willing to do their fieldwork and repeat the cycle.
>>16968648
Hope so

Maybe that's the realization to make is that ultimately hell is other people and all jobs are raped in some way and tolerating others is the ultimate experience to gain from any employment. Pic rel my peers.

Is there anyway to get into an engineering graduate program with a humanities major from years ago with no stem classes?
I'm really stuck. Dont want to do tech. Wondering if I should do a 2nd bachelors or a masters or a postbacc in engineering or a medical field like lab sciences. I don't think I can even afford it. Every graduate program is so annoying with fees and transcripts and recommendations which makes a 2nd bachelors seem like the only option. But I don't know if I can get it paid for again.

How hard is it to get accepted into a STEM grad school program anyway? Don't you need to network and/or work in a lab?

What IQ is necessary to pass a mathematics degree? I'm thinking of switching from geology to mathematics.

>>16969307
You need negative IQ to pursue a math degree in 2026.

>>16969195
depends on the field, but it is a lot harder, overall, today than 10 years ago

>>16969066
I'm a lone wolf... I don't play well with others... Hee hee hee...

>>16969125
>Do engineering grad students not run the measurements and experiments themselves
in poor countries (eastern europe) phd students do everything from grant writing, project management and procurement to building their own test beds and running experiments themselves. if you won't do something yourself nobody will

in the west they spend 4 years navigating bureaucracy to do like 2 experiments and get them into top venues papers, but spend most of their time teaching or some shit

the academic system very much prefers the latter kind of PhD grad.

>>16969382
What about aerospace engineering?

>>16969173
>Is there anyway to get into an engineering graduate program with a humanities major from years ago with no stem classes?
No. But now that I've responded, you can update the thread about how I'm actually wrong and you just got the email that they accepted you into the program.

>>16969688
what's the fastest i can do a second bachelor's then?

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any EEs in here who can give a status report on the industry in general? especially in regards to hiring junior EEs
already have an offer so i'm not personally all that worried about the immediate future, but i'm seeing a lot of talk on the Internet about college kids going into EE instead of CS because of AI fucking everything up and hardware's supposedly good job security. it's a relatively small field, so any increase in its popularity is quite concerning, at least to me.
how likely is it that the industry will get raped by a glut of new grads? conventional wisdom says they'll wash out of any ABET program pretty quick, but i've seen some pretty retarded people stumble out of college with a full EE degree. i know from first-hand experience that interviews from new grads are very easy compared to the insanity that is CS interviews; think leetcode, OAs, AI interviews, and whatever other bullshit they're using to filter out jeets for CS, vs one or two simple textbook problems and maybe a technical question about your project experience on the EE side, which doesn't seem like it'll be enough to protect my job if EE is really on the path to getting jeeted up.
i dont know, maybe im just biased but i feel like bad times are ahead for any juniors EEs, and perhaps anyone working in the industry as a whole

>>16969377
Why do you say that?

>chemistry lab gnome
>bachelor in aerospace
>msc in meme engineering that's cs mixed with acoustics
>msc thesis on numerical modeling and analysis
What the fuck am I doing with my life

>>16969698
Saaaaaaaarrrr fastest way to credential saaar do the needful

>>16969744
I'm an EE student not a professional EE but my cope is that the kind of midwits who would barely limp their way through a CS degree to chase money will get raped by an EE degree. And if AI gets so good that students can cheat an EE degree and colleges cant do anything about it then the entire system is fucked, not just EE grads

>>16969698
There's not really a way to short-circuit the requirements for a bachelor's degree in engineering. You just have to take all the classes, which tend to have long chains of prerequisites. Even if you somehow could scam your way up the chain, there are still additional board of regent requirements that you must earn the majority of the credit hours at the degree-granting institution.
>>16969744
I think EE is going to get a lot worse sadly.
It used to be akin to a gentlemanly, professional society, but CS reddit shitters are going to gamify it in their perpetual meritocratic race to the bottom. That's just what these people do. They're like a swam of locusts systematically destroying everything good in the world.
>>16970076
>le heckin based chud professors will filter everyone
They won't. University is a for-profit business model in the US, with everything that implies.

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>>16945727
I remember taking statics and dynamics with this professor who was only a few years older than me, he was like 28
I looked him up and he had like every accommodation possible, internship at NASA, 4.0, you get the idea.
And he was teaching at a cheap tuition state school. My statics class was 200 people btw
How the fuck is anyone going to have a chance in engineering if even the best of the best have to go back to school and teach?
Why is no one talking about how oversaturated the field is?

are fake jobs a thing in academia? I have been applying here for a while in Germany for some and I get zero replies.

>>16945735
Do you actually have autism or you’re just saying that shit for the lols?

Daily reminder that the rootless cosmopolitan international academic will be brutally crushed in the impending communist revolution.

>>16971165
What?

>>16970091
Then all degrees are fucked as well as EE
I wonder when the invisible hand will crack its knuckles and finally figure out a means of granting affordable, jeet-proof credentials to competent engineers/doctors/etc

>>16970091
>CS reddit shitters are going to gamify it in their perpetual meritocratic race to the bottom
It took years and years and years of concerted "just learn to code" propaganda from corpos to create such a massive surplus of CS retards in the first place. They have no reason to all flood into EE in particular all at the same time. Even if they did, they will take one look at the course description for their school's linear systems class and a fountain of curry-scented diarrhea will instantly fill their diapers as they consider pivoting to accounting or the trades. I am currently finishing up my last semester at a community college where I cranked out the freshman and sophomore math/physics credits for cheap. The reaction I get from compci, mech eng, and even chem eng students is "you're a masochistic freak what's wrong with you?" when I tell them I'm going for EE (with the intention of doing a master's in RF afterwards) when I transfer to a state school this fall. All the data from my school says that not only are EE enrollment rates totally flat over the last decade, but even engineering as a whole, while CS did its enormous pump and dump over the same period.
Comp eng might get fucked, but it was fucked already.
>>le heckin based chud professors will filter everyone
>They won't. University is a for-profit business model in the US, with everything that implies.
I recommend using a hypoallergenic lubricant if you're going to masturbate to doomer delusions this hard for this many hours straight

>>16971299
whites got it locked up in the "who you know" category

>>16971336
The type of managerial whites who would be in a position to offer that kind of nepotism to their co-ethnics in the first place are overwhelmingly liberals with empirically studied out-group preference.
The type of whites who are racist tend to be fly-over chuds with no institutional power at all.
Racism against non-whites is considered low-status in every single white country. I don't see how you square being low-status with having the type of institutional power where "who you know" becomes relevant. This seems to be an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory you have subscribed to for some inscrutable reason.

so I finally got my master in physics but now I realize that nearly all jobs require simulation experience. Well that fucking sucks I took numerics courses but never had the chance to really use fem. Anyone can recommend a easy tool to master or a book to read to learn fem stuff? I was going for optic or thin film things and they all don't care about the python simulations we learn in the base course.....
Is my only real chance to pay for comsol?

what yall think about brain computer interfaces? Undergrad in robotics rn and learning about brain structures is kinda interesting, wanna be in academia
what is its perspectives in the future?

>>16971913
you sound retarded so none unfortunately. though since you're brown they might take you for diversity points when the inevitable left wing backlash comes

>>16970885
no. you're simply not good enough. there are like 50 desperate grads for every opening.

anybody else just using job applications as a shitposting venue now?

>>16970885
Fake jobs, as in jobs that are advertised without an opening existing, are not much of a thing in academia as far as I know.

What is absolutely a thing is advertising a job for which a candidate (usually internal) has already been selected. The government/university/funders often require a publicly advertised job search.

Even relatively unknown groups in big institutions can easily get hundreds of applicants for an opening, and usually it's just some PI going through them, so that's another reason why they might not reply. It might not be as competitive as it sounds because 90% are pajeets with zero relevant experience shotgunning applications.

How do we make STEM sexy again guys. It's school - fun exercises and doing cool stuff... Then it's all nerdy shit and maths and stuff, then we get to watch elon laughing at his rockets taking off. He's using the smartest people in the world to basically do astrophysics projects for him.

>>16971980
>It might not be as competitive as it sounds because 90% are pajeets with zero relevant experience shotgunning applications.
I've had plenty of places where I would essentially continue my exact current role not even reply with a "unfortunately..."

the environment is hyper-competitive

>>16972013
shut the fuck up

>>16970885
Bruv, there are many brilliant scientists out there who read papers in-between conference presentations and they STILL postdoc until 40s before succumbing to despair and scratching the door of industry. Academia is dead.
Just think: a single prof creates, what, 50 PhDs over his career. The number of prof positions does not increase though.
>>16972013
kys, make STEM niche again. I don't need 1000 people per position.

what am i meant to do if im a low agency piece of shit with a small penis, no swag, no bitches, smell bad, bad genetics, brain fog, norwood 5 million, male osteoperosis but somehow managed to become a doctor of le science?

>>16972447
>somehow managed to become a doctor of le science?
and? so has everyone else. a PhD is the new GED. I'll have those fries now, thanks.

>>16972373
a industry job would be nice but the German economy is fucking dead I have been seeing the same jobs over and over again for two years now I know those are ghost jobs.

>>16972453
>a PhD is the new GED
Grim but true

Christ... Woke up from having a sex dream about my passoid with a touch of the clocky gigatroon labmate. We were holding hands. What has becoming a stemCEL done to me???

>>16972921
i understood some of those words. translate from flipperino to english pls?

>>16970885
have you tried lying about your ethnicity?

What's the job market like in computational genomics?

I'm interested in AI/ML, but also interested in algorithms and computing. If I get an MS in CompSci, would it be stupid to get another MS in AI/ML after?

>>16973164
>MS in CompSci
LOLOLOLOL
>MS in AI/ML
AHAHAHHAHAHA

>>16973166
Why are you laughing?

>>16971980
>Fake jobs, as in jobs that are advertised without an opening existing, are not much of a thing in academia as far as I know.
Probably true. Nevertheless, there are plenty of fake job ads where the institution has to post the job opening because of the rules, but the institution has a candidate they have already decided to employ. Also the FAQ mentions this.

>>16971165
you probably get winded going up stairs, sit down

>>16973166
>>16973164
hey man don't laugh maybe anon is one of those rich nepo babies who can afford to spend time and money on a useless degree because they're set for life anyway

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>>16966025
You will get used to it.
Learn and ask all that you can and get all the credentials possible. After that start looking for better options. These are what testing labs are only useful for. You may need to return to graduate school depending on what you want to do. Good luck.

Is anyone else using vibe coding for their research

>>16973909
>scientists
>broke, have technical knowledge
>vibe gods
>rich, ideas guys
the AIs have come to take your lunch not help you, nerd.

I want to go back (tm) for a second MSc. Good idea/bad idea?

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>>16974202
What possesses you to even consider that?

>>16974202
Future e,ployers will ask you why!?? And what answer will you give them?

>>16945727
So can you have a career in research if you're a young Man, or do you need to have a vagina?

>>16974310
I won't tell them about my first MSc.

Do you need a degree to do indie app development?

>>16974477
Not if you are so indie that you employ yourself.

>>16974436
Msc is useless. I'm an idiot who fell for the don't do a PhD advice.

>>16975525
>fell for the don't do a PhD advice.
you didn't fall for anything, you actually avoided the most common retard trap out there

t. fell for the "do a phd" ... well nobody was advising I just fell for it anyway