Given that practically all of Silicon Valley are coming out as transhumanists, I've been thinking about other directions such a development may take the future of people. Is technological posthumanism a feasible possibility in the future? If it were to operate as a pipeline from transhumanism to posthumanism, wherein transhumanist merges technology, advances the cybernetic hybrid systems and we essentially assimilate and become a posthuman system. What exactly would this entail? It seems impossible to ever truly imagine what a posthuman being would experience
>>16949131>s technological posthumanism a feasible possibility in the future?To the retarded it might just not be. And frankly, I would quite put their "sacrifice" to damnatio memoriae.
>>16949301In which case ... at least that particular idiot does not leave me with the burden of restricting his own bloodline. How nice. ^^
>>16949131It’s already happening, and everyone is participating whether they think they’re on board or not. Just look at this conversation. We’re communicating not using our mouths, but with a massive technological proxy. Even something like a sewer system is a small initial step toward the technologizing of being human. The question is where it’ll end up. Hopefully if guided by conscience we’ll end up like enlightened psychic super humans rather than “I have no mouth” style monstrosities.
>>16949858Every single bit of technology outsources something and weakens you in some way. Usually, the benefits outweigh the cost. But the costs are cumulative, and if you don't put limits on outsourcing, there will be nothing left but a shell.
>>16949131It's all garbage. The tech is not there, not will it be any time soon IMO.
>>16949131Computer chips use silicon to transfer information (electrons). Human brains use carbon to transfer information.When you pack atoms really closely together, they start to interfere with one another. Normally you put a "1" into your machine and get a "1" coming out of it, but if the atoms interfere with each other you might get a "0" or no output at all. The limits of how closely we can pack silicon in computer chips (to increase the processing power they have), are already being reached. Right now, there is no solution for the interference problem.Carbon atoms are smaller than silicon atoms, so you can pack more of them in the same space before they start interfering with one another. Carbon atoms can also transfer more electrons than silicon, so per atom they can transfer more information.Not only are human brains made out of carbon processors (neurons), those processors are packed so closely together that many of them interfere with the surrounding neurons. Across the brain, 90 billion neurons work together as a whole to maintain "signal stability", and individual brain regions have networks of neurons working together to maintain their own neural fields. One human brain processes about as much data as the entire internet holds right now. So not only do brains process that incredible amount of information, at the same time they are working to compensate for all these signal disturbances. It takes a significant chunk of the brain's total processing power to do it, but if you have a choice between 16GB of ram, or 32GB of ram where you need 15GB of ram to compensate for instability, you are still going to have more ram with the second choice (17GB vs 16GB). Biology has already "solved" this problem and come up with a solution, using carbon processors. We haven't figured it out yet, and we're still using silicon.So, I hope you can imagine why genuine transhumanism is still very, very, VERY far away.
>>16950467And of course, all of this is assuming the brain=computer paradigm holds up. Which it has to some degree, but every day more neuroscience comes out that points to a need to treat the brain as, well, a brain of biological neurons and not artificial computer-generated “neural nets” or any other computer analogy.
Suicide cults are common throughout history.Someone should study them.
>>16950467>>16950518The more time goes on the more I become convinced that the first true AGI will just be clumps of neurons grown in vats and connected to software.
>>16950533https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRV8fSw6HaE
>>16949131You have a phone that stores your memory and is part of you. You're a transhuman. Unless you can part your phone right now and not feel a loss. Thats nearly 8 billion people becoming transhuman already
>>16951112Why do they always make these on human neurons when bird’s can be packed more densely and use three times less glucose on average? Plus there’s less moral “I have no mouth and must scream” panic
