Just stop talking to people.
Nothing of value has ever been said by anyone ever.
All that is important and coherent will be written down.

>>16953354
You realize you can interrupt as well right? Interrupting, breif pauses are all part of conversation

>>16953354
Sounds like they weren't really interested in answering your questions to begin with.

>Trying to explain the context of a question I'm about to ask
Have you tried getting to the point?

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>>16953354
You aren't as smart as you think you are and you are just wasting someone's time.
If you were 130 IQ you'd be able to figure out how to concisely ask the question, instead of stuttering several minutes of "context".
Fucking retards like you are so annoying.

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>>16953354
>Always outnumbered, never outwitted
You don't escape, you fight for your mental sanity.

>odd autistic colleague at work approaches me
>"So assume I am a customer seeking to make a transaction on our system. For the purpose of our question, assume this transaction is $500 and being made on a Wednesday. I remember you mentioning this in a meeting last Tuesday. Now, what system-"
>I really don't have time for this, tell him the name of our transaction system in the hopes it answers his question and ask whether he understands
>he stares at me and walks off
>walk past his desk later and see him open an IQ test

>>16953354
if your fucking iq were 130 you'd be eloquent you larp

>>16953472
True, or at least be able to segue back at any point instead of silently seething as the other guys move on

>>16953859
ACTUALLY that's just a measure of verbal IQ

>>16953354
communication is everything

>>16953354
You need to drink/eat more.
Do people tell you to speak up a lot?

>>16953354
Stop asking vague questions.

>>16953935
holy shit you are retarded AS FUCK. VIQ and NVIQ correlate highly faggot. you can assume any cognitive profile with just their g and know their VIQ range with good probability of result in a real test like wais or stanford binet with just 1 indicie based on data science techniques

>>16956063
By your own statement, high correlation but not necessary. You can have a high IQ while being ineloquent

>>16956063
A hallmark of autism is having extremely uneven abilities compared to the average person.

>>16953354
Practice speaking confidently. Talk to yourself out loud, or go talk to random streamers and just practice by being a contrarian cunt

>>16953354
IQ is stupid and the only people who care about it are insecure about their own intelligence. How much smarter are you than "dumb" people when they easily do something you have trouble with? There's more to life than being "smart".

>>16956063
>VIQ and NVIQ correlate highly
there is a correlation, but viq is as bullshit as eq.
currently mostly due to measurements, but also, it's different "muscle groups" of the brain.
for instance, if you see someone sprint fast, doesn't mean they can deadlift.
and a strongman champion would most likely be beaten by a skinny teenage girl in a sprint.

however, there is a correlation, not just between different iqs, but also between iq and physical health/abilities.

a low verbal 130 iq can sound as intelligent as highly verbal 80 iq. which is why a lot of "progressive|" companies are giving masked iq tests to their applicants nowadays.

>>16953439
that might work for humans with an IQ of 105 or above, but not most humans. have you ever talked to people and got to the point right away only for them to just say "uh whut?", then you end up having to explain the context and backstory anyways.
pay attention to stand up comedians, they follow a formula.
>"so have you guys heard about this? *gives backstory or context* well anyways *now gives the joke*
and the people laugh. because they get the reference now. if they just said the joke, it would be "what?".
but different people have different communication styles, and some have low attention spans and low intelligence and it wouldn't matter either way. where you could explain something first before giving the info you wanted to share so they understand, but they're just listening thinking "why is he saying this? what does this have to do with anything"

>>16956083
I guess I sound stupid. people always tell me I'm really smart, but when they realize it they seem surprised.

>>16953354
Minor 'tism here, but not enough for this.

>Talk to people. Introduce yourself, provide an opening statement that leads into your question.
>Use good diction, mannerisms, and body language (if you require further advice, either ask, or watch Hornblower).
>Ask question.
>Allow them time to process it and form their own answer.
>If their answer is not to the desired question, or they struggle to form an answer due to misunderstanding your intention or your question, then you explain the context.
>If they still fail to provide the answer to your question, provide further context and clarification, but using different words.
>If you repeat this multiple times, and fail to get an answer, odds are they just don't know it.

>>16956100
There is knowledgeability, there is raw brainpower, and there is practice at using said brainpower.
99.9% of people have the same brainpower. But schooling and culture and learned helplessness dictate how practiced you'll get at applying that brainpower in a couple different ways.
Past that, it's all just 'how many facts do you know on a subject'.

>>16953354
Don't try to explain things to others, don't involve yourself in pointless conversations. Other people may or may not know things, but by giving explanations and advice you will gain nothing in return except waste your time.

>>16953354
People assume that spergs can't communicate well. This is often incorrect. Normies cannot communicate well, and tismos can only communicate well with other tismos.

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>by giving explanations and advice you will gain nothing in return except waste your time.

>>16953354
This has happened to me. It always bothers me when they answer when it is clear they were not paying attention to what I actually said.
I just wait until their gums stop flapping and I say, "that's very interesting," ... and then I repeat the original question. It has the effect of breaking them out of their stupid cycle, which forces them to think and to pay attention. Notice I do not insult nor condescend at all during that.

>>16956746
that's true. its rare but sometimes I'll meet a normie that understand me, and they'll translate me to other normies and they get it. some people know how to handle us

>>16956746
Yes and no because autism isn't a catch-all personality by itself. Lower functioning autists annoy higher functioning ones, to the point that you have the online phenomenon of the closet self-loathing autist.

>>16956955
Lower functioning autists annoy everyone

>>16953859
Brain's connection to fingers != Brain's connection to mouth

>>16953354
It's interesting how everyone is misinterpreting that IQ bit as, "I am smarter than this person, why do I have to put up with them?" instead of, "I wish people would stop assuming that I'm dumber than I actually am so that I can get the benefit of the doubt that I'm actually saying something worth considering."

>>16957119
>why do people keep assuming i'm weak and frail simply because my bmi is 14?
>it's interesting to me how people keep misunderstanding that people falsely assume he's weak simply because he's small

>>16953354
This is me but I only have 115 IQ

>>16956746
This is true. Autists are often much better with animals and plants than normal people are. Normal people are entirely a product of culture. They have little to no connection to their biological fundamentals, which is why they need to be taught intuition and how to reason from first principles.

>>16957193
Both normies and sociopaths have an innate urge to be cruel against people, but the main difference between them is that sociopaths just do it anyway without justifications while normies are socially driven and do it against those they deem to be acceptable targets while inventing excuses. Autists may have different morals but tend to be self-driven.

>>16957124
>What is a sleeper build?
>You've got the Daily Double and control of the board.

>>16953354
>Trying to explain the context of a question I'm about to ask
That's not how you talk to people

>>16957246
>Anorexics have sleeper builds
Kek

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>>16953354
As a fellow smart autist I can give you some advice. You want to reduce your sensory sensitivity. That reduces the sharingan levels to be more handle able. You can try:

>NAC
>probiotics, vitamins B2 and B6 calming your belly which also calms your brain

or stronger stuff that needs prescription and propably advice from an expert.

Also 130 IQ really is not that high and also its just one aspect of a greater whole.

>>16953472
You can be the most intelligent man on earth and still get flustered by insufferable jackasses that talk over you and ignore you.
My brother is a moron and doesn't listen to anyone but his wife and frequently not even her.
The last time we had a serious discussion it ended with him throwing a tantrum because I wasn't letting him talk over me and ignore me and, unlike the rest of my family, I also wasn't kissing his ass (a thing he's become accustomed to (from them) ever since he came into some money).

I love my brother, but he's an idiot. OP has issues with dealing with those kinds of jackasses. I just happen to be accustomed to dealing with jackasses because I come from a family full of jackasses.

>>16956091
I'm autistic myself and totally get this.
I've been forced to adapt. It wasn't easy. It never will be. Normies are the worst assholes. Especially the pushy extroverts.

>>16953354
>130 IQ
>Not really well-spoken due to the 'tism
Autism usually renders people severely mentally retarded. Extremely weird how the opposite of the truth is pushed here but I reckon it's bots downplaying the pharma-caused epidemic in brain damage cases.

>>16956744
>pointless conversations
Most conversations are pointless and lead to nothing interesting or of value.
I detest "small talk". It's best left to small minds. I can do it easily, I just find it excruciatingly boring.
I find that only the most insipid of jackasses actually enjoy regular "small talk". The best people are more thoughtful and leave me the fuck alone. I respect them for their courtesy.

>>16956819
I do the same. Insulting these kinds of idiots just causes their idiocy to flare up like a bad rash.

>>16956986
I'm a low functioning autist who can larp as a high functioning autist for about 15 minutes before my facade crumbles. It helps that I can read people and situations so well it comes off as psychic ability to retards. Cold reading is a useful skill. Unfortunately, normies tend to resent you when you can see through their bullshit.

Crazily my mother loves that I'm capable of doing this, at least until I use it on her. Then she finds it upsetting.

>>16957859
>retarded
Depends on the form of autism.
We are not all the same.
I have an established and documented IQ of 179 and can manipulate just about anyone I meet into doing what I want, yet I absolutely fail at some of the most mundane of tasks. My thinking is highly abstract and linear thought is something I do not accel at. I have to fight my brain to keep things razor focused as it tends to want to persue dozens of tangents at once. When I get too stressed out, I lose all focus and freeze up for minutes at a time. Fortunately, I'm a stoic so most people never realize what I'm suffering through when that mental chaos hits me.

>>16953354
They know what you want.
They dont want to give you that.
Instead they're trying to deflect it.
You dont understand that they are deflecting for a reason.

well spoken normal people are sly lying grifters that lie to themselves foremost and lie to others. This works fine for liar society.

>>16957865
>accel
My autocorrect changed the word on me.
I am using my phone currently.

>>16957865
>Depends on the form of autism. We are not all the same.
A disease label that is so broad as to place a mentally retarded person and a normal gifted person on the same spectrum has lost all meaning.
Friendly reminder that no biological or psychological commonalities between the different "autistic" subjects have ever been identified. So far, autism is nothing but a legal convention with little to no scientific validity.

>>16957866
They could be deflecting, but it's far more likely they're just that high on themselves and oblivious to OPs situation.

Normies aren't typically deep thinkers.
You give them too much credit.

>>16957868
Autism is an umbrella term, but all autists display abnormal thinking within the diagnostic parameters. Kinda like how there are multitudes of different ways to play chess, but they're all ultimately chess (autism) and not checkers (sociopathy) or some other game.

>>16957868
Forgot to add. There are common biological vectors all autists share. In particular neural rewiring that deviates from what is considered normal. It shows up in scans.

>>16957872
>In particular neural rewiring that deviates from what is considered normal. It shows up in scans.
No, it doesn't.
>Kinda like how there are multitudes of different ways to play chess, but they're all ultimately chess (autism) and not checkers (sociopathy) or some other game
Gibberish. A severely autistic, mentally retarded person who is incontinent and needs to wear a football helmet does not have the same condition as some late-diagnosed engineer with narcissistic personality traits. This is completely made up bullshit.

>>16957876
>Nuh uh. My retarded mommy says so.
Do more research.
>Gibberish
Yes. You have demonstrated gibberish (word salad) quite nicely. Can you say anything that isn't gibberish?
>I'm smart. My mommy says so.
I'm sure she also tells you your dick is huge and that the Easter Bunny is real.

>>16957880
I mean, I know you're a disinfo bot so I don't bother arguing with it.
But ye, 1 out of 30 kids are now autistic so for the few real humans reading this crap here, all I care to say is that this has to come from somewhere.

>>16957876
It's called a spectrum for a reason and you're full of shit, but funny that you mention that, higher functioning higher IQ autists are absolutely done dirty by the system because they are folded in with the more retarded ones and given infantilizing treatment during their crucial developing years

>>16957884
>It's called a spectrum for a reason
The reason being non-existent and in essence boiling down to a made up technicality that a socially anxious kid and some retard too stupid to make eye contact are the same thing.
>absolutely done dirty by the system because
Which would not happen if we discontinued that spectrum hoax. So far, all it seems to do is to imply that the tarded spastics are just some natural variation of those geeky nerds. And since, *cough*, the DSM-5 is made by pharma-funded committees, I'm sure this is just a coincidence.

>>16957881
>copes, seethes, and projects because I touched a sore spot in his addled brain
Just how long have you been fucking your mother exactly. Did she use a strapon on you? You give off butthurt vibes.

>>16957884
Based knower.

Nuking aspergers was so stupid. Autistic SPECTRUM traits like IQ neatly form bimodal distributions, they should not have been lumped together. Do REAL autists share features with aspies? Sure. But a quadriplegic and a paraplegic share features and they are clearly different.

>>16957894
In my country, assburgers is still recognized but one legit 130 IQ assburger I knew was absolutely ruined and regressed mentally during his high school years because they started treating him like he's half his age while constantly holding his condition above his head, almost like they wanted to punish him for doing too well prior. And I heard this shit can be even worse in the US. The system is not meant to help them with life skills but make them "well-behaved". I've met different autists over the years and while they shared traits, insisting they have the same personality and abilities is laughable.

>>16957896
Exactly, you don't mix apples and oranges or you get a ruined pie

>>16957896
>almost like they wanted to punish him for doing too well prior
I happen to know several such cases. Apparently, Autism diagnoses are happily given to unruly kids or kids that have gone beyond the rat race game. One school psychologist, though all I care to say is that this was written on some unsupported parenting blog, claimed that the diagnosis was meant to be demeaning because people associate autism with the 'tarded kids who are also unruly.

And the entire special needs sector has been known to be broken for decades. It's essentially a self-serving industry because everyone knows you can't fix these kids but you're made to look like that this is precisely what you do. So, for most of these kids, it means being enrolled into what effectively amounts to private equity firms and spend eight or nine hours there until some parent can come pick them up. And frankly, having worked in similar institutions, a lot of these teachers, carers etc. would be quite happy to simply euthanize these kiddoes. There is absolutely no positive attachment between the kids and the supervisors.

>>16953354
>/sci/-related because IQ.
kys you ape

>>16953472
So fucking true
>>16957851
You have an intelligence complex because your brother is more successful than you. This is your cope.

>>16957900
With my friend of course it's not like they came out with a diagnosis out of the blue, he was troublesome when younger but started massively improving prior to high school, so the weird thing is that instead of being like job well done they increased the stranglehold and started treating him like a toddler at the age of 16 instead of encouraging him to develop his skills. Basically screaming into his ear that he's supposed to have problems.

>>16957909
Yes, because the school districts get triple the federal cash for a special needs student. Once enrolled in it, you can't get off. Many such cases. And they, absolutely, don't care one bit what this special needs diploma or whatever does with the kid's future.

>>16957889
Not the guy you're replaying to but have you ever wondered whether insulting people for having a different opinion works out as a strategy? Like, I have worked with autistic students and it's def not a good thing to have.

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>>16957865
179 IQ is smartest of 14 million people in terms of IQ. You need to write books or share your thoughts some way. It would be interesting.

Also being able to manipulate pretty much anyone you meet sounds like bullshit but I dont know what someone that high IQ would be able to do. Autists tend to be socially stunted, arent they?

>>16957905
>Intelligence complex
No. My brother literally just got lucky.
Him and his wife both work low intelligence jobs.
He makes burritos. She changes adult diapers.
However, he was able to save up because her parents floated them both for years.
He got lucky enough to be able to be a fucking leech.
Same with his wife.
Then they bought a house and totally skipped all the rent payments that normal couples typically have to pay.
This gave them an economic boost of of tens of thousands of dollars.
All because they both leeched off of everyone else.
You really have no idea what you're even talking about.

>>16957930
>Thinks I care about strategy online.
I use the internet for the lulz.
In real life, I'm far more polite. Tact is a useful tool when dealing with normies.

>>16957949
I've considered writing a book about it all, but then those who know me would always be on guard and think they're the targets of my manipulation, when I rarely do it and never try to manipulate family (though I really should).
I reserve my craft for my real life enemies. Essentially, anyone who treats me or mine like shit without justification.

>>16957957
you have a complex brought on by your brother's success
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! NO I DON'T HERE'S A BIG PARAGRAPH WHY HE'S DUMB AND I HATE HIM GRAAAAGH
Whatever you say champ

>>16957968
>yah huh, you do
You really are a dumbfuck.
Go back to your mommy's basement, parasite.
I have no doubt you're as worthless as I imagine.

>>16957960
No, you're lying here. You get weirdly worked up over people pointing out obvious flaws, then you start insulting them for no reason. It's not like this is the first time. The question is. What horses do you have in the race because I doubt a high-functioning person is that hell-bent on having some low-functioning kiddo be in the same group as he is.
>>16957884
>It's called a spectrum for a reason
>because they are folded in with the more retarded ones
The two phrases conflict with each other.

>>16958022
>I doubt a high-functioning person
Looking at the comments, I should correct that.
1. He's probably not that high-functioning
2. It seems like and it's not just >>16957881 noticing that a LOT of 4chan content is bot-generated.

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>>16957966
At least you arent evil it seems. There are already so many evil people that just want to make others suffer or exploit them. Its so fucked up. Keep using your forces for good. Secred autism high five

>>16957949
He's a sperg. The "manipulation" is just a combination of people being too tired of his shit to enter into ANOTHER of his toddler-like power struggles, and our cucked DEI society giving him special headpats and allowances because of his diagnosis.

>>16953354
Happens to me too. If you just ask the question without context, they won't understand, be confused, and somehow still find a way to make it your fault.

>>16958022
>worked up
I just enjoy being hostile online.
You would never know it if you met me in person.
It's like a game to me.

>>16958037
I may not like humanity, but I don't hate humanity either. I say I do sometimes, but I don't really mean it. I want everyone decent to be happy.

>>16958106
>copes and makes shit up
In person, people have no idea who I really am. I have several masks I wear depending in who I'm around. A lot of people are like that. It's not just me. I don't let anyone see the real me. There's no point. People are too unreliable for that shit to ever be a good idea. You're proof of that.

>>16958132
Retarded bot.

>>16957868
Autism is a repurposing of the brains areas that are typically used for social cognition for other skills like visuospatial processing. It facilitates masculine behaviors and development. Social skills are always associated with feminine behaviors and mindsets.

>>16958968
>Autism is a repurposing of the brains areas
Autism is the result of a disturbance of critical brain development windows during the first two to three years. It is associated with epileptic seizures in 30 % of all cases and mental retardation in 50 to 70 % of all cases. Pretty weird how such a disease is passed off as a superpower and I have absolutely no idea where this shit is coming from because I genuinely doubt there are that many adults who are proud of suffering from a pervasive developmental disorder.

>>16953354
> Trying to get answers to questions by people who are less knowledgeable than a search engine.
> Wasting peoples time who are forced to talk to strangers.
> To autistic to know that they are the problem.

>>16953368
fpbp
They don't want to talk to you and you are annoying them. they don't want to help you and you are wasting your time and their time.
Stop talking to people

>>16958971
The reason why autistic people are so often more spiritually healthy and fulfilled than those with normal brains is similar to why people who live in rural areas are similarly more spiritually healthy and developed than those who live in urban areas with more competitive life styles

Because both are more fully dedicated to whatever they spend their time actually doing to earn a living or keep themselves happy. It's easier for such a person to achieve flow state.

A normal person considers it either pseudoscience or an impressive feat to achieve flow state because it does not come as easily to them, because their minds are busy passing everything they try to focus on through a social lense that is attached to their ego. That is also why urban people with normal brains believe one sign of maturity or rite of passage into adulthood is to have undergone ego death, because that is an inevitable occurrence when you are constantly sizing up others and yourself against them. When you are engaged in social competition.

And since social dynamics are not based in rationality or are bound by physical laws, there is no upper limit to how far one can go when engaging in social combat. So a person with such a disposition may end up having their entire brain molded by social cognition.

Such a person never experiences true peace and happiness, as they can only experience joy and satisfaction through victory over others. Such a person never experiences flow state either, because flow state involves letting go of your conscious thoughts so your body and mind can function like a machine.

Flow state comes far easier to high functioning Autists (Asperger's) than it does to someone who only does things performatively or because they want to feed their ego. That's why the most highly skilled performers at anything are naturally humble and unconcerned with social games.

>>16958980
a lot of talk for what basically amounts to incoherent shit.

>>16959085
nornal people are mediocre because they can't fully focus on anything because half of their brains are dedicated to social processing. The brain of a high functioning autist can focus better because more of their brain is dedicated toward whatever skill they've chosen to pursue. This is also why they are more easily fulfilled. Autistic people have a clearer idea of what they are good at and what they want.

This also applies to normal people who aren't mediocre, except that they can more easily pick up social skills since their brains started out with the normal configuration.

It explains why mediocre people are bitter and desire to drag down people who are generally nicer and more successful than they are. Autistic people who are high functioning very often become targets of such behavior for this reason.

Also, autism is a hereditary trait. Some bloodlines have it, others don't. Those that have it are less prone to feminine, attention-seeking behaviors and are generally more closely associated with masculine merit-seeking behavior instead.

>>16957864
I have doubts you're a social genius

>I detest "small talk". It's best left to small minds
Fedora

>>16957865
>persue
Pursue

>>16957957
The heat of your seething is gonna melt the ice caps brother, seek love with your family

Posting is still fucked

Wtf this thread eats posts

>>16953354
all that IQ and you can't figure it out?

>>16956286
lmfao, what the fuck are you saying you dont know jack shit about psychometrics cuh

>>16953354
Post your formal IQ testing results first, done by a licensed mental health professional, with a timestamp of course. No, a random free online test doesn't count.

>>16953354
ask the question first. when they give the wrong answer, then give them the context

>>16953354
>How do I escape this hell
start using the n-word. people will be much more hesitant of interrupting you if they know that they risk being called a nigger in front of everyone else

>>16953354
You were talking to women weren't you?

>>16956286
>EQ
This is just a measure of how well a high IQ person can talk to retards.
High IQ + High EQ = total boss psychopath

>>16956727
>99.9% of people have the same brainpower.
Literally, as in ACTUALLY, not true.
There is a bell curve for everything.
The rest of your post makes sense and is coherent. But the idea that 99.9% have the same processing power is flat out wrong.

>>16957884
If you have "smart" things in your brain and yet can't get that brain to not sperg out over retarded things and also can't talk then you are retarded and non high IQ I'm sorry.

No one actually intelligent has ever been mistaken for a retard.

>>16953354
IQ is meaningless in this context. It is not a concrete measure of your "intelligence" like it's the INT stat in the RPG of your life. You definitely don't understand what IQ is actually measuring, and you aren't smart just because an IQ test gave a higher than average result.

>>16953368
>>16959085
A lot of posts like this in this thread which are basically just major category errors.

You've made the mistake of thinking the only purpose of "talking" is the dry robotic direct exchange of information for the singular purpose of scientific/mathematical advancement. This is neither true but NEITHER is it in fact separate from the components of living that are necessary to achieve that scientific/mathematical advancement in the first place.

tldr stop being an aspie

>>16961258
IQ tests are multiple choice and usually 4-6 choices.
Real life has a literal million variables.
Successful business men are the peak of intelligence on a level that mathlets and sci-posters will never fully grasp.

The number of options and variables and inputs that you must predict and organize to build a business from nothing to a several millions is ungodly tier pattern recognition and prediction.

Now people have different goals and may do many things in life with similar "hardness" levels. But if you want to "bet" on who's smartest in a town, go find the guy with 20 employees running his own operation that was set up entirely by him.
He's a genius and even retarded things he might say are actually sage wisdom to be examined.

Generally IQ predicts (this is the key word, the magic word, the all-caps asterisk word, *PREDICTS*) intelligence, it does not measure it. What a well-managed IQ test is doing is measuring how well a person adapts novel discoveries into future problems within a rigidly controlled span of time. It's something of a measure of the plasticity of the brain, which is why things like retaking an IQ test or practicing for one with sample problems completely invalidates precisely what it's trying to measure; an IQ test can't tell us anything about how quickly the brain can adapt to information if the brain was already exposed to that information for an increased length of time.

It doesn't predict whether the person will not be a complete failure with that plasticity and actually make intelligent and thoughtful reasoned choices, reach correct conclusions for complicated problems, or make spontaneous clever discoveries/solutions in his life. Though we can draw statistical inferences about the likelihood that he will compared to people elsewhere on the curve, it's not quite a 1:1 relationship.

IQ tests shine more in population studies, which I will leave to the investigation of the reader because I've gotten bored with the 10,000th repetition of this topic and I want to go get something to eat

>>16961261
whole lotta words to say basically nothing.
You're a good talker.