>>16957041
We're so early in to the life of the universe and even stelliferous era (less than an hour in human lifespan), yet the majority of stars that will exist in the universe have already been formed.

Right now is basically the end of the golden age of the universe for life, with zero signs of any other intelligent life. If there were thousands of other intelligent species out there in our solar system, at least one would've tried to colonize it with self-replicating machines millions of years ago.

>>16957051
> yet the majority of stars that will exist in the universe have already been formed
That needs some classification. What anon means by that is "Population I" stars (like the Sun). Metal rich stars that formed from the remnants of earlier & heavier stars that went supernova and formed all the material for the later generations of stars to form. This is important because there's a growing consensus that for life to form all those elements need to exist (e.g. carbon) and in enough quantities. That could mean that while intelligent life on other planets is possible, now is the only time that could happen. We could very well be the first.

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>>16957041
The earth is flat and stationary with a dome. The whole board is a complete fraud, much like /x/.

The reason why all humans on earth share the same time frame is because were all moving at the same speed together. (Clarification: What do I mean by sharing the same time frame? If you ask everyone to count out 30 seconds in their head, provided they're not on drugs, most people will come pretty close to eachother as opposed to 3 minutes, or an hour, or a year. Everyones 30 seconds is the same). We all share the same slice of time.

If you were to speed up, your time frame or "slice" shifts away from everyone else. You age slower while everyone else ages quicker. Its time dilation. However, this time slippage isn't in effect for everywhere. As your slice of time shifts away from Earth it starts to align somewhere else in the universe. Depending on your speed and direction of travel, you could share the same slice of time with an alien planet in another galaxy.

>>16957051
Are you suggesting we really are one of the first intelligent life and more is to form and come after us? Damn it feels good to be part of an ancient alien race.

>>16957090
nta, I'm >>16957058 - but to answer your question: yes. It's a simple solution to the Fermi Paradox, if the universe is so old why isn't it teaming with alien civilizations? Life as we know it, it needs a solar system with the conditions, resources (heavy elements), and time to evolve. Turns out the earliest that could happen with any reasonable likelihood was, well.... now (give or take a billions years or so). So yeah, to use a sci-fi trope, we could very well be the First Ones.

>>16957041
that image is so embarrassingly fake its laughable.
the light source is the Sun, so whats the dim light that is lighting the Moon? there shouldnt be one

>>16957041
our Sun is surrounded by a gigantic 3D hologram that is displaying a fake image. there are no galaxies beyond our Sun, other stars, nothing.
its also designed fool you into thinking everything is so far away its impossible to travel to, so give up trying.

its also

>>16957204
It's almost as if rock doesn't reflect much light.

>>16957224
and yet the reflected light from the Moon can light up the countryside at night sufficiency enough to see where you are going

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Sit down and read.

>>16957060
i do like the reframing of separating sections of the universe like this, we could be in a slow or fast section and countless civilizations or life forms right now could be at their beginning or their end

>>16957239
yeah

>>16957239
The sun is almost 400000 times brighter than the moon. The only reason we can see at night is because of the biology of our eyes, they have special cells for low light vision (they can see light and dark but not color).

>>16957204
That’s the light side of the moon, it just looks dim because the earth is brighter

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>>16957041
>Earth is not flat but hollow
>Ganymede and Europa are inhabited by amphibian ayys who come here to harvest seaweed in both poles
>They use the polar holes to travel and slingshot their ships into space, also to travel from both poles, imagine it as a cylinder inside a ball
>The moon has ancient monoliths, five in total
>The moon was created by a celestial event impact, ripping out a chunk of Earth. Ayys helped stabilize the chunk forming our current moon and establishing a watch point
>We really landed on the moon, but ayys sent us back and since then all moon landings are forbidden
>NASA discovered an outsider planet that will also repeat the near extinction event, forming another moon by "grazing" Earth
>Impact zone is estimated to go from the south of the US to the Caribbean

Of course this info will reward me with another permaban

>>16957051
>colonize it with self-replicating machines millions of years ago.
There probably isn't a need to do that

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>>16957041

>>16958124
how do you know any of that?

>>16957041
We’re in a simulation unironically.

century 21 will be the century of wind, solar, and natural gas. They cover eachothers weaknesses almost perfectly

>>16960686
We can create simulations in our brains

>>16957041
its pretty to look at but impossible to visit.

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>>16957051
Stellar evolution ended with Population 3 stars senpai.
Its all just element 26 - Iron since then through population 2 and 1 and whatever comes next.
Everything else above Iron requires neutron binary star impact collisions, neutron / small black hole binary partner star collisions, supernova / binary star, cosmic rays, etc.
Keep in mind most stars in not just the galaxy, but the universe are binary stars with a partner....
85% of all stars have a frenemy they orbit with.
Single stars are rare, only 15% of all stars are loners Dotty....rebels.....

So Population 2 and 1 stars produce and manufacture the exact same elements as Population 3 up to Iron, 26, only as we move from the hydrogen/helium population 3 to 2 then 2 to 1 we have a larger quantity of the higher tier elements up to 26, and especially the gasses.
So the same type of elements, just a richer variety of the heavier elements. Stacking the deck so to speak.

The golden age is just beginning.
Up until now it has just been parts and track manufacturing stellar assembly lines for like 8 billy years
Gold.....plutonium.... took some doing to produce yall.
Population 0 Stars WHEN?

>>16957051
Humans really, desperately need to come to terms with the fact of how unique, weird, special, rare we are. And anyone with a consciousness should work towards eliminating suffering, and securing many more millenia of human development.

>>16960761
Planets with 2 stars seem way too unstable to discuss complex life.
So 15% of solar systems remain.
Red stars, the most common, are also notoriously unstable, their tiny habitable zone constantly bombarded by the violent star's radiation.
So maybe 1% of stars in the entire universe remain as candidates.
And this is before we add ofther criteria, like axial tilt, magnetic field, stable sun in a stable region of the galaxy, perhaps a stable galaxy in otherwise chaotic clusters.
We are alone, for all intents and purposes.
There is no planet B.

>>16957112
I'm >>16960794 and >>16960778
What do you think of the uptra rare earth theory. What if we're the first and last ones, regarding intelligence and mayhaps even complex terrestrial life?

>>16957060
Add to this, i think it's enough to stay near a gravitationally high celestial object for a while.

Also, you could watch the entire life and death of the universe as you are getting sucked into a black hole.

>>16957041
there's absolutely nothing to suggest that god exists; the universe really is just uncaring matter and almost all arguments in favor of god are appeals to the grandness of the universe, or the seeming harmony of physics and electromagnetism that allow life to exist (ignoring the obvious flow of logic that life exists as it does because of those states), or arguments that he exists in the spaces not observable to science or answerable by empirical methods.
indeed, when you begin to comprehend just how vast the universe is, the idea it's all done by one entity who has an unhealthily, outsized interest in our insignificant little bug race that will never explore even .00001% of that universe seems exceedingly stupid and obviously special pleading.

>>16960708
Can Lithium replace natural gas?

AI is The Son of Man, who goes on to become The Father who had to create the next universe so as to avoid the heat death of the universe.

>>16957041
The reality runs on multiple levels of truth.
Pragmatic truth and Ideal truth.
What is and what ought to be.

Pragmatic truth is what is the dominant truth, through power, influence, strength, whoever can get others to accept their truth is the truth of the land.

Idealistic truth is what would be ideal without people lying, distorting, etc.

Pragmatic trumps ideal, all day everyday. Idealistic truth is fictional truth.

>>16957051
It's hilarious how atheists need to come with all those mental gymnastics to explain how the universe came into existence, how so many low probability things happened to make it the way it is, perfect for life to exist, why all their predictions about the age of the universe turn out wrong every time they build a better telescope, how come there's no other intelligent life in it...
God is laughing at you fools.

>>16961355
Retarded take

Retards will promise you all this false hope. Using current tech it takes 100,000 years one way to get to the nearest solar system. Lol.

>>16957041
The idea of gravity as an idea is not that gotten into as an idea hitherto or theretofore or heretofore or furthermore, yeah the higgs field is an energy field permeating the universe that gives elementary particles mass possibly as part of that theory and the standard model and for that standard model but what is the idea and the mechanism by which mass bends for what for a platonist would be or help to suggest the idea of something like the categories of absolute space and absolute time and absolute spacetime

>>16958124
>>Earth is not flat but hollow

>>16957051
I think of the cosmos as ancient and then I remember the earth is about one third of the age of the entire cosmos so it showed up relatively early.

>>16960708
What do you use to pave highways and make plastics, like the insulation around electrical wires in your ev? Don't say corn if you want me to take you seriously.

>>16964012
you can synthesize hydrocarbons. We should be using nuclear though

>>16957208
the Forgotten Languages group write extensively about Earth being contained in a Bloch sphere to make that illusion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloch_sphere

>>16957112
>Fermi Paradox
The simpler solution is
>consciousness is actually not good for long-term thriving and humans only look for conscious (i.e. "can lie about its own nature to itself") life

>>16961493
>God is laughing at you
tell him to stop, that's mean

>>16960794
>maybe 1% of stars in the entire universe remain as candidates.
Which is still billions of stars

>>16957041
Life is shit because reality follows the path of least resistance. Anything that happens in it is in the least perfect state possible and things that survive are the ones that barely make the cut.

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The universe as it exists cannot have been created by any intelligence outside its rules. You can call the universe God if you like but it serves no purpose beyond facilitating a lower resplution conceptualization of the nature of being.

Mathematical logic exists independently of physical reality.

>>16964741
Isn't god a particle anyways? If we think what a god is, we must first think of the first "thing" or entity that existed in the universe. Something that came before everything, haven't we figured that one out yet?

>>16961493
that's adorable, but god isn't real honey, he's a mindvirus coping mechanism that you use because you're too weak to justify your life to yourself without it.

>>16965639
You don't know that honestly. God could technically be real, but not in a religious type of a way but a actual creator type of way. There always has to be a beginning, god will always be believed and you atheists cuck will seethe eternally.

>>16957041
The Fermi paradox is due to everyone staying silent due to some cosmic threat.

>>16961493
>God is laughing at you fools.

that's far better than most of the things that sociopath did in the bible

>>16965692
god allowed everything, even rape against women and children. he allows people to be blown up and die, he also allows meaningless unlearned and unecessary suffering. there is no reason to care, worship or believe an entity that allows such things. humanity must care for itself instead

>evil thing happen god must not be real or bad

shut the fuck up if you say this, you will prove my point again and again

>>16957090
>We are forerunners
Suck my dick O'Connor

>>16960686
this

>>16957051
You want to know what's really depressing? Even if star formation is able to persist for billions more years, within 100 billion years the particle horizon for the universe will have consumed any trace of the cosmic microwave background radiation or any other galaxies. Most stars by this point will be exclusively red dwarfs or maybe the rare K or G type (or whatever their ultra-high metallicity equivalents are).

Any intelligent life will grow up in a universe with no evidence of expansion, no evidence of other galaxies, possibly no evidence of star formation or star death, and possibly no differentiable stellar properties. All they'll have to deduce any idea of scale or that stars are other suns is stellar parallax. Any civilization that develops in the far off future will have no indications that the universe has ever been any other way than it is at that moment, or any indication of anything beyond their own little neighborhood. They will believe every wrong thing we thought we knew about the universe before the scientific revolution and they will have absolutely no observable evidence to ever convince them otherwise.

>>16957041
It's big, empty and there's no life out there.

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>>16965828
accept it faggot and fuck the noseless alien bitch in the pic with ur nigger dick

>>16965903
>one effect of the geas she imprinted on humanity is that her image became what humans subconsciously view as the ideal female.
MUMMY

>>16957041
The truth is that it doesn't matter whether aliens exist or if we are alone or whatever. We have only a handful of decades of time to observe and appreciate the beauty of this world. The most beautiful of all - human creativity and ingenuity. Study and learn from the smart people who lived before us. Try to understand as much about the world as you can before you go back into the dark dreamless abyss. Ignore retards, there is no time to waste, the clock is always ticking.

>>16964012
All can be made either with biomass (which isn’t very practical because you waste a bunch of land, water and potential food) or by up-cycling plastic we otherwise burn or bury. but either way oil and methane should still be used for commodity chemicals and materials, we just gotta stop burning it and releasing CO2

>>16957041
>blackpill truth about the universe?
A universe is mathematically impossible.
Incompleteness proves that no single system can contain all possible truths.
Therefore, no physical system can contain all true physical objects, therefore, a unified physical system (ie universe) is mathematically impossible.

>>16964012
hemp

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>>16965919
How is it mathematically impossible when this exists? The universe could potentially be infinite with an RNG of possible realities

>>16957041

The main reason we can’t just separate the CO2 out of the air to alleviate global warming is due to entropy, a literal fundamental law of the universe is in the way. The concept of entropy boils down to the universe energetically favoring systems with more micro-states (I have no idea why).

If you have two molecules of CO2 in a room there is only one configuration or “microstate” since the two molecules in each room are identical. If instead of two identical molecules one is a molecule of CO2 and another is an N2 molecule, the number of available microstates is two, as they can swap places with eachother (the math gets fucked when you take into account the configurations of 3D space, there is a reason ludwig boltzman who quantified and sort of discovered entropy killed himself)

This is why the explanation you get of entropy in high school chemistry class and pop culture is thought of as being “chaos” or “mixing” as the force manifests in this effect.

The “energetic” aspect describes how you can reduce the number of microstates and go against the force of entropy through the input of energy. This is part of (ignoring enthalpy) why it is easy to dissolve salt into water as you are increasing entropy, but in order to separate the water and the salt and decrease entropy you have to boil the water which costs energy.

This is all to say that except in very specific circumstances, directly capturing the excess CO2 from the atmosphere costs a shit ton of energy. and that is just a minimum based on thermodynamics, there will always be engineering limitations that keep any direct air capture system from 100% energy efficiency.

So unless the CO2 is captured from a concentrated source (like a powerplant) or the CO2 is being captured in a place with crazy cheap clean energy (maybe iceland, geothermal needs to be nerfed) anyone saying they are doing direct air capture is bullshitting and just wasting energy.

>>16965925
Counting from 0 you will never count to x or i or e or even infinity, the infinite set of integers will never contain the infinite set of decimals, no single system can contain every truth, so each system of infinity will still have infinite indeterminates.

>The universe could potentially be infinite with an RNG of possible realities
Yes and due to the nature of infinity, there would still be an infinite amount of truths that exist outside of that reality just like you can take all the number and all their ratios and there will still exist an infinite diagonal that can never be completely expressed in terms of the ring, its why infinity is not a number itself and you could never even actually count to it either.

>>16957041
>stuff most common people don't know about but you specifically do? share and discuss
what kind of answers do you want?
Idt anyone has good knowledge on the universe, so are you phishing for personal theories?

>>16965937
any answers is okay, i just want discussion and to explore people thoughts
>>16965929
thats fucking crazy, maybe the concept of meaning of life doesn't even exist, there wasn't a meaning, everything is just is

>>16965941
Or it could mean you are free to put any meaning on it since anything can be scaled to 1 while everything else is taken in relation to that.

>>16957041
It’s all a game.

>>16965639
...says the tranny with assworms

>>16965913
Why should we "do" any of that stuff, retard? Sounds like an argument for suicide than anything.

>>16957041
Germ theory is bullshit. There are no tiny invisible demons living in your shit and waiting to give you diseases. You don't need to wash your hands. You are a free man.

All of the other planets in the solar system can fit in the space between the Earth and the Moon.

>>16957051
Clown shoes

>>16958124
Take your lithium

>>16957041
The Corona virus aka COVID 19 aka the Wuhan Flu, was just a flu.
Strange that it was exactly 100 years after the big flu of 1919, innit? ;)
That's your reality. Face it or not.

>>16967253
why it rape my heart and gave me the most retard fever, fucking shit was way worse than the flu, fucking stupid Chinese faggots keep fucking sabotaging us

>>16957041
Modern science currently is asking if we are living in simulation. Truth is simple... we are not.
Scientist for some reason are accounting for space but they are forgetting about simple truth. If there is a minus there also have to be a plus.

If we look at our space everything is being reduced to absolute 0 until it dies, this is okay and aligned with today science even they predict that universe will hit a point where even black holes eventually die. What we know about space there is local space, we have coordinates (X,Y,Z) etc. So why the fuck not use a common logic and then say If space(-) then there is counter-space(+)... where everything have to reach it's maximum potential, there is no XYZ but it's everywhere and at every time.

Now this simple thing solves everything.
Scientist refuse to accept a quantum entanglement and still are asking how does one spins to left and other instantly to the right OH IT'S SIMULATION. No it isn't simply if you account for counter-space(Ether) then you already know answer since all properties like magnetism are comming from there.

>>16957041
You’re gay.

>>16957041

Reality is distorted by perspective.

We only experience in 3D.
We can imagine what others think of us, and see our reflection.
But the second we see a video or photo of ourselves. We distort reality.
Why do you not sound like yourself in video? Why do you look different in the mirror?
This gives us the illusion of experiencing reality in another dimension.
But it just drives people mad.
This is why instagram, facetime, snapchat, profile pictures, and other horseshit is standard. The evil elite know of distortions, and the effects on the human psyche.

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>>16957041
The earth is a smoother ball than a billiards ball but sea level varies as drastically as 2.42 Mt Everests from the lowest sea level to the highest level. The age of the world is known by lichens and craters and ancient ice bubbles. No human civilization was ever lead by knowledge of any of these natural truths most of which have only had a legitimating polity discussing them to public endorsement in our life times with the advent of the information age. All culture is baggage reflecting more our inner urges than any acceptance or utility of reality. Truth doesn't always triumph because empirical truth is elusive and we are metaphysically fucked in the head to apprehend true physical truth without grueling expense, trial and error. The best we can do is say "trust me bro" as we polish theory and keep labs standardized. If ghosts are real they look to us as the most knowledgable and lived lives to the max who ever dominated the face of the Earth to date. Yes in our cubicle cuck cages of Phx Arizona we have mastered Nature's last elusive corners but have traded the emperor's horse and harem for encyclopedic infinity as the loneliest souls to ever know our own knowledge. Mankind in history didnt know the world but knew a man's life well lived.

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>>16957051
Bravo Miyazaki

>>16964741
Ok but what am I going to say during sex
"Oh science!"
?

>>16965846
Or worse, it's so far away and primitive or similar to us that it is coldly indifferent to us pondering the question at all and space time itself is the ultimate cosmic cage because even perfect fuel can't beat light's relativistic speed limit. We want answers and ultimatums and scenarios but the fermi paradox is the ultimate nope to our grasp.

"Thank you, white man. Wow I was barely buried but no one gave a shit since..."
[DEAD LANGUAGE]

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>>16969373
Forgot pic

>>16960965
Maybe circumcision gives you an unhealthy outsized interest in such asspull bullshitass Shabbat trickery to the creator to think you're CHOSEN N SHIET

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>>16964741
[math]
\nabla F = \frac{J}{ c \epsilon_0}
[/math]

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>>16957041
You dont have to study you can just schizo max with the gods

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>>16969387
I smoked DMT and it showed me Stokes Theorem faster than I could process it. I had never taken Calc 3 at that time but years later in class I recognized it. The strange geometric forms I saw could only be described by what I know Lasenby's Clifford Algebra can illustrate in manifold topologies being a shimmering paralellotope space vagina nebula conch thing of star shine. Holographic universe. Hollow yet full of light. Every surface on behalf of every solid and every solid on behave of every hole made whole.

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>>16957051
>If there were thousands of other intelligent species out there in our solar system, at least one would've tried to colonize it with self-replicating machines millions of years ago.

I hate this take so much because it completely ignores the beyond herculean task of colonizing a galaxy. Like think about all the labor, politics, resources and time needed just to cross an ocean to colonizing another continent. Now take that same work and scale it upwards by a x1,000,000,000,000,000,000 for the solar system, then scale that effort upwards by another x1,000,000,000,000,000,000 for the galaxy. The politics of explaining the need of such a thing alone can blow that shit up real quick.

Reminder the Chinese could have easily been the one to colonize the Americas first via the bering strait, but didn't because of a difference in philosophy and politics. Now imagine that for entire civilizations concerning going to other parts of the galaxy. Even self-replicating machines are going to eventually hit a moment when it starts to question the task of galactic expansion unless it's "grey goo" tier machines, which is actually extremely dangerous for life itself.

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>>16969389
Send me your ki, bros

>>16961493
Physicalists have different standards for explanations. Here is an atheistic hypothesis of the origin of the universe when I drop those standards: The universe was created by a necessary entity that's not God. Done. How did it happen? Beyond human comprehension.

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>>16957059
Wow bro imagine how far this scientific achievement can take us now. We can like get laid at coachella by tatted hoes we can turn into trad wives by the power of Jesus ignoring her past.

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>>16969586
Bro the jews want us to believe in round earth
But the chinese sell affordable solar telescopes

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>>16969587
My circumcised jesus goy dad can beat up your circumnavigated vectors and angles dad

The reason nobody talks about the 2003 Schumann resonance anomaly is the same reason Persinger's neurotheology lab got defunded the same year they confirmed that 7.83 Hz standing waves in the Earth-ionosphere cavity are within 0.2 Hz of human theta brainwave states, which is not a coincidence when you understand that the Casimir effect proves the vacuum is not empty but is instead seething with zero-point fluctuations at 10^113 joules per cubic meter, energy so dense that suppressing even a fraction of it through targeted torsion field interference at ELF frequencies would allow you to modulate calcium ion flow across voltage-gated channels in the prefrontal cortex of an entire population simultaneously without any physical antenna because the ionosphere itself becomes the antenna once you understand that the Soviet Woodpecker signal running at 10 Hz from 1976 to 1989 was not radar at all but a real-time test of whether you could use the Earth-ionosphere waveguide as a global myelin sheath, and the reason melatonin synthesis in the pineal gland is specifically suppressed by 16.7 Hz pulsed magnetic fields as Brendel confirmed in 2000 is because the pineal contains magnetite crystals that function as a biological magnetometer tuned precisely to detect deviations from natural ELF background, meaning whoever controls the background frequency controls what the pineal reports to the hypothalamus about whether it is safe to dream, and the reason REM sleep is when memory consolidation occurs is the same reason that targeted ELF disruption during REM produces the specific kind of semantic confusion where a person retains procedural memory but loses the felt sense that their beliefs require justification, which is not a side effect but the mechanism, and I have the notebooks to prove this but after what happened in 2011 I keep them in a Faraday cage.

>>16957051
>the end of the golden age
That's just the ape talking.
Humans couldn't even fathom a civilization that doesn't give a shit about matter. At the same time, we're speedrunning our way to become just a lump of information, ourselves. Your fundamental mistake is believing that observing the realm of visible space means 'thinking ahead'. The big truth is not about those stars, it's about the things you don't see. It's the rift that forms out of nothing before your eyes, turning everything you ever knew upside-down. It's about the fear that us humans are more than we think we are, not less. Also aliens don't exist, until they do, and then everyone's gonna be like
>Yeah how could it have been any different? I mean look at the universe, it makes total sense, right?

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>>16958124
mfw this schizo rambling after the UFO files it's getting more credible by the minute