Is homeopathic medicine really "just water"? Or is that just blind reddit cultism that "everyone knows" without really investigating it?
>>16959935It's both actually, it's just water that is boosted by blind reddit cultism. Demonstrably no effect beyond a placebo scientifically speaking of course.
belief in homeopathy is just a dilutional disorder
Anyone using the term "reddit" or "scientism" has a low IQ btw
>>16959935It's not water it's sugar.Apart from that it has no active ingredients and has shown no effect beyond placebo.
>>16959935Homeopathy, using the term faithfully, is the dilution of a toxic compound in water (or sugar as the other anon notes) to such a degree that it not longer has toxic effects. The idea being that small doses of a substance that causes symptoms will illicit a bodily response that alleviates those symptoms. (Note that this proposed mechanism of action is largely bullshit). Modern homeopathic "medicines," however, are so diluted that there is most likely not a single molecule of the active compound in any given dose of the "mixture." Homeopaths counter this be evoking "water memory" (which is bullshit) or water "structuring" (which is technically a thing but only lasts microseconds, not going to be present in any dose you receive). Hence the accurate statement that it's "just water."However, homeopathy has become somewhat of a buzzword that gets slapped on to completely unrelated herbal remedies, each of these having different levels of evidence for effectiveness. This whole market is poorly regulated and is largely driven by marketing wank dressed in pseudoscience. You can't even trust that the words being used mean the same thing on two different bottles of the stuff so you're best just avoiding this shit entirely.
>>16959939placebos are not scientific i’m afraid
>>16959935Water has a chemical memory. Some homeopathic researchers say water can store properties of its previous solutes in its molecular wave function. The water uses the stored properties to other molecules to selectively excite the molecule to higher energy levels. The exited water can interact with sensitive molecules in the body (proteins and enzymes) to induce a specific immune response by only responding to proteins that contain site symmetry the same as the original solute.Lots of people have disregarded homeopathy but it has some uses that are only now being explored in the medical field (like psychedelics)
>>16960130>homeopathy does nothing>call some stuff that sort of works but isn't homeopathy, homeopathy>SEE HOMEOPATHY WORKSI hate people so fucking much.
>>16959935Just look up Samuel Hahnemann, the guy who invented homeopathy, and read about how he came up with it. I have no idea how he managed to be taken seriously.
It's 100% bullshit and it breaks my heart that it still exists, I know people who take it and waste money on it as if they were going to actual doctors (but a "light" version). It makes no sense whatsoever, it's flat earth level.
>>16960342In an age where the quality of medicine could be considered questionable at best, he was essentially prescribing plenty of water and bed rest. His prescriptions "worked" in the sense that water and bed rest is, generally, good at treating the more common illnesses an otherwise healthy individual is likely to contract.
>>16960338Ask your average normie what they think homeopathy means and I guarantee more than half will tell you it's a fancy word for herbal medicine.
>>16960375Gonna start asking them just so that I can pedantically say that ACKCHYUALLY that's phytotherapy.
>>16959935Of course the goy cattle in this thread want homeopathy to be fake and gay. How else could they justify the vanishingly small amounts of fluoride, arsenic, and other trace elements in their drinking water as safe?
>>16959935it's confirmation bias.
>>16960181Placebo is a very scientifically valid thing, placebos can cure tons of problems that people have. Just because a problem is caused by something that isn't really real and the solution isn't real either doesn't mean a problem can't exists or that the solution doesn't then work. It's just that homeopathy doesn't offer anything beyond a placebo and at the price point it's probably not even the best value for money as far as placebos come. Sugar pills for instance are very cheap and effective.
>>16960423phew, i was actually worried about microdosing plastics until I read this. Now I know I can eat as much forever plastics as I want and it won't have any long lasting effects on me.
>>16959943Heh, I'm gonna make you pay for that one you little creature!
>>16960435Plastics and heavy metals are not very reactive which is why they accumulate in your body over time. Homeopathic molecules are, so you can just go ahead and chug/binge homeopathic treatments without effect beyond hydratation /sugar rush
>>16960130>>16960338>>16960342The original concept of homeopathy was that substances (especially herbs) that produce reactions resembling the symptoms of diseases can be used to cure those diseases, hence the name. The founder of the discipline eventually developed an obsession with diluting those substances to supposedly increase their potency and that became the defining feature of his school of medicine, but others were less focused on dilution while still following "homeopathic principles", hence it's not really a misnomer to call those herbal treatments homeopathy.
>>16960372Yeah, the "state of the art" treatment regimens back in the days were fucking grueling, the closest equivalents allowed nowadays would be radio and chemotherapy maybe. No doubt his patients suddenly felt much better after they essentially stopped being tortured and poisoned.
>>16960435You can measure plastics. You can't measure homeopathy because it's just water. I don't know what microplastics have to do with my post except that they may be a placebo since I don't think they have proven to cause anything yet.
>>16959935I’ve been to India where homeopathy is part of legally accessible alternative treatments and there are homeo clinics you can visit much like a regular clinic. Homeopathy was often the first medicine alongside healthy food and rest that parents would give to little children. It was a purposeful placebo that was supposed to encourage the child to deal with illness (usually the common fever, cold and cough, definitely not malaria or anything dangerous) by themselves before the parents unleash the paracetamol and antibiotics. It was also a place where adults would go for a second opinion or view about illness and conventional treatment, and in the latter case no medicine was prescribed by the homeo doctor. Virtually everyone who went in homeo clinics in that third world country seemed to understand sugar water does jack shit, but also saw placebo and confidence as a useful way to deal with mild illness, especially when most people are working class. Cultural norms of mental cultivation and meditation to deal with life’s challenges may have played an important part in this.Now why relatively rich, affluent white folks from a first world country who’d rather pump Ozempic instead of exercising and immediately cry for meds and accommodations at the slightest inconvenience are shilling homeo, is beyond me.
>>16960498You don't even know what homeopathy is. Sad. Many such cases. It definitely isn't the reason why they put trace amounts of fluoride and arsenic in water.
>>16960753You can measure both of those. Trace isn't the same as homeopathy which is just water.
