Statistically speaking, what is the approximate probability of this happening on another planet?
8 planets in the solar system.1 with life.so around 1/8.
>>16959980Complexity is a thermodynamic entropy maximizer. So I would say the odds are pretty high.
>>16959980It has happened almost surely (lebesgue measure 1)
>>16959993>>16959997how come they never sent us any messages so far?didn't we fire off rockets filled with piss and shit and english alphabet and pictures of DNA and stuff allegedly maybe it reaches some other planet.
>>16960014they filed a restraining order, anon
>>16959980We are on a higher cloud loop with mass functions on a larger scale between the aquatic and bipeds.
>>16959980Humans evolving again, entirely convergently from abiogenesis, on another planet? Functionally 0% chance. Think about all the random mutations that would need to emerge sequentially, in the exact same order, selected for under the exact same conditions an unfathomable amount of times. Just think of how minor environmental differences could cause massive butterfly effects. Let's get evidence of ANY life before we start speculating on convergent humans.
>>16960014Assuming they would use radio waves to send a message (like we did a few times) what are the odds of one reaching us, considering we've only been able to receive those for about a hundred years max. Not to mention you'd have to train an antenna at the correct place at just the right moment
>>16960302Makes me want to reset the earth to 4000 million years ago and see how what kind of life would evolve instead in the exact same conditions
They took to the trees to escape the jaws of dinosaurs. New life forms are cheeky monkeys.
>>16959980There are probably planets where something comparable is close to 100% probability, simply because they could have similar properties to Earth but much more time for evolution to try out pathways for intelligence.
>>16960340radio waves suck. they would build a giant space laser to send messages
>>16960302i hear you but the universe is so comically vast i think the odds are higher than functionally 0%
>>16960411I mean similar problem then.They would have to aim it exactly at earth, presumably without knowing that we are here by the time it arrives and we would have to be at the right moment at the right time to even receive the message. And if this happened before the advent of writing or the record of it got lost that's that.
>>16959980Zero, God has chosen us, not them
>>16960483The universe really isn't that large. Consider that if a man stood on every plant in the universe and flipped a coin 100 times. The expected result would be not a single case of 100 heads in a row. Intelligent life evolving is surely less likely than merely tossing 100 heads in a row.
>>16959980100% if the universe is infinite.
>>16959980At least 1
>>16960727well 100 heads in a row is also comically "vast". If the same kind of soup is under similar conditions then wouldn't you get a cascading effect where once you have the possibility for lipids or RNA or whatever then it will tend in a similar direction? It could be the case that if you want humans then you need an Earth like planet, and that it's not exactly random anymore because that's just what happens on those kind of planets
The universe is geocentric and the earth's purpose in turn is to house intelligent life. The universe moves around the earth and keeps the atoms in the correct position. The purpose of the stars, galaxies, clusters, filaments is to keep atomic, subatomic and elementary particles in the correct position.
>>16959993This isn't accurate. High entropy typically corresponds to disorder and uniformity. A box of gas has high entropy but low complexity. Organisms are low entropy by explorting entropy to their surroundings. This is where your mistake comes from. Organisms are complexity maximizers and they do this by exporting entropy; you're mistaking the means for the end.Complexity is really a measure of significance of elements to each other. Think of an ecosystem, which is filled with countless complex relationships between organisms, and organisms and abiotic factors.
>>16960014why would they use light speed radio? They probably use something that we can't figure out because science is full of dogma that people take as absolute truths
