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I'm bored, and want to make a goal to catch lightning as close as I can without preferably dying.
Lightning season is coming up, and I'm thinking about making a primitive lightning rod, taking said rod to a place where lightning is likely to strike, record and bring back profit.
Unfortunately I am a brainlet, and wouldn't mind preferably not dying doing this /sci/ence experiment.
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You're gonna start a new hobby
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>>16961741
Isn't that what chasing storms is all about?
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>>16961694
Set up a faraday cage. Wear rubber boots. Stay dry.
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>>16961745
If I'm lucky I can get a job, and afford materials for a faraday cage, and I should be fine with the boots.
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>>16961745
Wait a minute, what the fuck is electromagnetic radiation, and would that imply that a faraday cage mesh, stops conductivity, or like...

Okay, so I understand that the metal used in a faraday cage at least according to Google is conductive, which I would assume would mean that it would attract lightning.

Am I wrong in that assessment?
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Actually, now that I think about it... I don't think that I'm scientifically literate enough to predict where lightning may strike, what can a knee grow from The Battle of Little Bighorn do to capture lightning, so that I may acquire a plumed feather to show my devotion to the Electro Archon?
Alongside get the respect and funding from my tribe?
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>>16961759
>what the fuck is electromagnetic radiation
Anon... your education has sorely failed you and I apologize on their behalf.
Tl;dr is visible light, radio signals, microwaves, x-rays, etc. are all fundamentally the same stuff and we call that stuff "electromagnetic radiation."

Yes, faraday cages are conductive. The basic idea is to provide an alternative path for current to travel that doesn't pass through you.
The zappies zap the cage around you instead of you.
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>>16961768
Okay, but like... Will that prevent lightning from fucking killing me, like don't get me wrong. I understand the concept after watching some Youtube videos explaining the pheneomona; however, this is lightning we're talking about.
Which has a voltage rate between 100 MILLION, and 1 BILLION, with an average voltage rate of 300 million.
If I crunch the numbers on that, that's a fuck ton; however, perhaps I'm underestimating this farade cage, like so for example is there a way to calculate via some mathematical formula to allow me...
To essentially... Feel less terrified, the last time I got struck near lightning, that fucking stuff shakes the ground, and I shit you not. I was like eight years old, home alone, and hid under the table.
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Okay, I know this seems a bit /b/ tier since I am a highschool drop out who is both interested in science, and also may have undisagnosed autism; however, this is the plan for now.
I wait for a thunder, or lightning storm, hopefully prepped up a farade cage, haul it to where I'd assume lightning would strike before the storm gets there, and what I'm trying to debate on is whether I should put the lightning rod on top of the farade cage, or outside...
I also want to take a video with my plushie Reimu for just my own sake; however, most definitely willing to do this.
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>>16961785
The math here is surprisingly straightforward.
You have a parallel circuit, meaning more than one valid path. In such a circuit, the current is distributed among available paths inversely proportional to the resistance of those paths.

If the resistance of a path that doesn't flow through you is, say, 1 ohm and the path that does pass through you is something like 10 mega ohms due to insulated shoes, then you receive 1 ten millionth of the current you would ge reciving if the alternative path didn't exist.

Planes and cars can take a lightning strike without harming the passengers.
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>>16961794
>You have a parallel circuit, meaning more than one valid path. In such a circuit, the current is distributed among available paths inversely proportional to the resistance of those paths.
I'm not even going to pretend like I understood what you said; however, so negative electron particles want to attract to the positively charged ones, that's what I understand.
>If the resistance of a path that doesn't flow through you is, say, 1 ohm and the path that does pass through you is something like 10 mega ohms due to insulated shoes, then you receive 1 ten millionth of the current you would ge reciving if the alternative path didn't exist.
Once again I'm not even going to pretend like I know what you're talking about; however, the trick here is for me to make this farade cage and have it directed into the ground, or at least that's my assumption.
>Planes and cars can take a lightning strike without harming the passengers.
Yeah, I'm familiar with this.

Also this youtube video helped me understand the concept better, and also like... I'll go more in depth on this hopefully in the next image.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5SwiK1_2u4
I should ask though. So for example, I understand that the last time I was struck within my household directly by lightning, or at least very close by, it quite literally shook the house as in felt like a small earthquake, and that makes me concerned at a direct strike from lightning, and I'm not even accounting for any burns that may occur.
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>>16961694
I was watching some TV about it. They showed the lightning from the sky doesn't touch the rod. The rod has lightning from the ground meet it near in mid flight.
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>>16961811
Are you talking about those air balloon lightning rod variants?
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>>16961811
Lightning pretty much always travels from the ground up.

Funny tidbit about that: electron flow travels from negative to positive. This much you already know and were probably confused about as a child. The reason for this ass-backwards convention is because charges were initially defined by the state of storm clouds relative to the ground. It was assumed lightning falls from the sky so the clouds were positive and the ground negative. We didn't realize the actual direction of flow was the opposite until after mountains of literature was already written on the topic so the convention was pretty much set in stone with the caveat that the actual flow of current was the opposite.
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>>16962271
This is a bit off topic, and this is an anecdote, but apparently we never truly touch anything on the microscopic level.
Our skin at the microscopic level apparently pushes things away and thus we feel stuff.



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