Scientifically speaking, how do I cure my depression? I'm not drinking or doing drugs.
go outside, go for walks, talk with friends and family about itmake a list of things you like and go through it
Set a realistic and tangible goal which you can make incremental progress towards. It doesn’t need to be anything life changing. It could be something simple like "I would like to build a shelf." I'll use that as the stand in for your goal but remember it can be anything.Whenever you get that feeling that you're simultaneously discontent but also unmotivated, make progress on the shelf.In the early stages, start drawing up plans. What is the final shelf gonna look like? Where is it gonna go? What are its dimensions. Next, draw up the individual parts. What are their dimensions? How are they gonna fit together? Where do the screws go? How are you actually going to make this piece? Is the end result gonna be structurally sound? What compromizes are you going to need to make? Don't just headcannon this shit, actually put it on paper. You should end up with a folder where each page details the specifications of one specific component. Maybe read up on drafting standards while you're doing this.While you're in the planning phase, set a bit of money aside for the basic tools you need. You can do a lot with a belt sander and a skillsaw. C-clamps are a must.Once you've done all of that, actually make the pieces. Cut them to shape. Sand them down. Apply finish. Let them sit. Finally, put the thing together.Don't feel discouraged by slow progress. Remember the whole point is to give you something to do that doesn't involve introspection. The longer it takes, the better. Every incremental step you take is something you can look over when you're down, remind yourself that you can just *do* things, and maybe inspire you to make further progress. And when you're finally done, no matter how long it takes, you'll have something to look at and say "I did this, I can do the next thing."It doesn't need to be something you necessarily "enjoy" doing. It just needs to be better than being trapped in your own head. And most importantly, it doesn't need to be a damn shelf.
>>16962758pharma doesn't want this known but exercising consistently & over time cures like 95% of people
>>16962758>Scientifically speaking, how do I cure my depression?attempt to kill yourself. then stop killing yourself right when the brain releases the chemicals of "wait, nigger. fucking wait! life is good :)"
>>16962768this is one of those replies that sounds like bullshit but it's the most correct based on actual studies and researchGoing for walks is vastly more effective than clinical treatments like medication for dealing with depression
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>>16962768I can personally confirm. Eating proper food is also helping. But yeah sport cured everything for me from weak metabolism to sleep issues to depression. Literally the magic bullet
>>16962768>>16962840>>16962883>>16962978That only cures "depression" in NPCs who malfunctioned in just beeing themselves.
>>16963071you are not special
>>16962758In the many-worlds theory, you need to change worlds so your past doesn't correlate to the present as much.
>>16963071>t. edgy 17yo that will neck himself before his 40s
What if you are depressed by being high iq neurodivergent in a normie world
>>16962768>make a list of things you like and go through itI have a hard time coming up with something i like except cold sodas and gooning.
>>16962758Depends on what the cause of your depression is. Fix whatever it is. If you're an umeployed friendless incel, get a job, get friends, and have sex. If your brain chemistry is fucked, which is rare, go to a psychiatrist and get medicated.
>>16963315The reason "high IQ" people are usually more depressed os because they spend too much time on introspection. Spend less time in the world of ideas and more time in the world of material and your symptoms will improve.
>>16963342You seem knowledgeable. How would you end world hunger?>>16963349But doctor, I am Pagliacci.
>>16963342>get a job, get friends, and have sexI dont feel like doing any of these
>>16963366When you're depressed, you don't feel like doing much of anything.The solution: do things even if you don't feel like it.
>>16963071actually try it before you knock it, snowflake. Sometimes it really is just that simple. It's like fat people who won't accept the reality that diet and exercise will fix it, a lot of depressed people aren't willing to accept that if they just did some light outdoor exercise it would have an extremely positive effect on their mind and body. Again, walking is significantly more effective than therapy and drugs
>>16963368In real life, if you're not motivated you don't get anywhere: enterprises do not hire you, people do not enjoy your company...Pretending to do things in hope it will get better by itself is pure magical thinking.It only turns people into emotionally stunted zombies.
>>16963400I was a long-distance runner for ten years, I trained regularly and I engaged in several running races.It never helped alleviate my depression.
>>16962758Do things that motivate you, avoid things that you hate, simple as.
>>16963406Motivation takes practice. Start with doing some shit that doesn't require interacting with other people....maybe build a shelf?
>>169630711) not an argument2) no true scotsman3) not contradicting the point4) you're boring
>>16963406>In real life, if you're not motivated you don't get anywhere:This is quite true and also a reason why psychologists are trained completely wrong. They're taught to somehow help their patients help themselves, but that's preposterous because actually depressed patients simply have no means to help themselves. They lack the energy and the motivation. To effectively help someone truly down, you'd pretty much have to force them to get out and do things. Literally take them to places and get them to socialize and do meaningful things. Telling them to do things is useless because they already know. They know what they need to do, but they won't do it on their own.
>>16963465Psychologists aren't "trained wrong" on this. In fact, they have a specific term for what you describe: "loss of executive function." This severe level of anhedonia is actually one of the most important distinctions between clinical and sub-clinical levels of depression. It's what antidepressants are designed to treat since the shrink obviously can't physically drag you somewhere and make you do things.But it is important to start with basic self-motivational cognitive behavioral therapy before you start throwing drugs at the problem. For a lot of people, the barrier is really just not knowing where to start.
>>16963470>It's what antidepressants are designed to treatIf only they actually did what they're designed to do, then.>the shrink obviously can't physically drag you somewhere and make you do things.That's not obvious at all. They absolutely could do that. A rare few actually do.
>>16962758>I'm not drinking or doing drugs.there's your problem
>>16963504>If only they actually did what they're designed to do, then.They do. The specific symptom of lost executive function is targeted by alleviating anhedonia. Antidepressants make simple tasks more rewarding and thus make the transition to a more proactive behavioral pattern easier. And despite what a bunch of terminally online contrarians and grifters try to tell you, they do serve this purpose well. What they don't do is magically start the process of *doing things* for you. They just lower the barrier to entry.
I do daily walks during my lunch breaks and during the weekends. I am still depressed as shit.
>>16963665What do you do after work?
>>16962758What is the root cause of it? Because depending on what is causing your depression, its either rather easy to resolve or very difficult. But there are general life style changes that you could embrace anyway like reducing your processed food intake, going on at least two 15 - 30 minute walks a day, getting into a regular sleeping schedule (check your iron levels, magnesium, etc levels if you feel your sleep quality is bad) and engage with hobbies more.Also Vitamin D and Omega-3 are quite good to take if you don't already.
>>16963522None of this is true. Maybe it was the goal they were designed for, but they fail to do so. See meta-analyses on the matter.The issue is trying to act on the symptoms and not the root causes.This is like treating a broken leg with painkillers and telling the patient to keep walking otherwise the lost muscle mass would prevent them from healing properly. Theoretical cherry picking argument that is complete nonsense irl.
>>16962758Don't be immobileHave regular, good sleepDon't use screens without thinking (don't jump on the phone when waking up, don't use screens on the toilet, don't use screens while eating, don't use screens while outside, don't use screens while falling asleep, don't use screens while talking to friends, etc)Don't use screens to fuel your negative emotionsHave a smart, easily attainable goalDon't pursue happiness directlyDon't follow your impulsesBy following these 7 SIMPLE RULES sorted from most important to least important, you too can [[GET OUT OF DEPRESSION]]How many are you actively breaking?
>>16963672Basically just some study and then go to sleep.
>>16962758Go outside and start working outAlso take vitamin D supplementsWorks 95% of time
>>16963699Antidepressants work and have been shown to work reliably in many studies over decades. If you're proposing they don't, you're the one who's cherry picking.
>>16963880They've been shown to mildy relieve the symptoms, not the disease.Since it makes doctors, pharmaceutical companies and their shareholders happy, the pill cult can live on and thrive.
>>16963912>They've been shown to mildy relieve the symptomsYes. The symptom of "lost executive function." That's very explicitly the goal. When combined with cognitive behavioral therapy, they contribute to long lasting improvements and most people get off of them eventually.Fun fact: the proportion of people prescribed antidepressants who stay on them longer than 10 years is between 14 and 25% according to a cursory google search. That's unfortunately high, but still a minority.
