Blue Girth editionPrevious >>16961018
2 weeks status?
>>16964140May actually be literally two weeks.
Soon
i took a cool night sky picture but i think an autist will triangulate me with it so i can't post it sorry
>>16964157If there’s no time information then all they can get is latitude
>>16964138> not corroded junk edition One job
>>16964158nah someone will search the entire latitude on google maps to find the same foreground trees
>>16964162Crop that bit out and replace with au generated ones
Valentina looks p foxy from this angle
Why did they send Buffalo Bill to the Moon?
>>16964162then don't have trees in the foreground silly
>>16964164too bad if you read about her you'll learn that she was actually kind of a retard.women should only be in space to be impregnated and increase population size.
>>16964169is there a single woman in history that had a real contribution to space flight?
>>16964140>>1696414150/50
>>16964168they will look for moving objects in the sky and derive the time and location from matching that to satellite ephemerids and airplane schedules
>>16964170the first woman to make a meaningful contribution in spaceflight doesn't exist yet, it will be the first woman to have sex and be impregnated in space, and then carry a child and give birth to it in space, in order to get actual, real data on whether or not doing so is safe. it would actually be one of the most important points in history.until then, they're just getting brought along to make regular women feel better because some of them (while still highly intelligent and competent, moreso than the average man, including me) are just barely at the level of bottom rung male astronaut candidates and therefore qualify, despite not really adding anything that another male astronaut wouldn't do better.
>>16964174Use a still picture not a moving one
>>16964179 still picture will show streaks from fast movers, possibly long enough to give detailed information such as angular speed and exact direction of travel
>>16964168You can use chat gpt to geoguess the city and neigbourhood of people posting about their dumb cars in /o/ but it won't give the exact property location. However I bet most posters here are Earthers.
https://x.com/AJ_FI/status/2047581240841077057>A Long March 2D lifted off at 0635 UTC today from Xichang, sending a new group of satellite internet technology test satellites into orbit. This was China's 25th launch of 2026.
https://x.com/TechSpatiales/status/2047455062784348320>Today, the Soyuz launch pad at Kourou was destroyed. 27 launches took place between 2011 and 2022, up to the invasion of Ukraine which led to the end of operations. It is Maiaspace (a startup of ArianeGroup) that has since taken over the site for its methane-powered Maia launcher.
>>16964192when you think the sea dragon didn't go far enough
Isar Spectrum status??
>>16964196https://x.com/masfaspace/status/2044571852031308059>Andoya Spaceport has reported that there will be no further launch attempts conducted during the second part of the launch period, meaning no launch for the next several days. This means that Isar Aerospace will likely have to work together with Andoya to get a new license and work on getting a new launch date. Stay tuned for more updates.
>19th century aerospacekino blimps, aesthetic atlantis inspired art, world fairs>early 20th century aerospaceschizos, spooky history, metaphysics wizards>mid 20th century aerospacesoviet kino art aesthetic, CIA black ops, SR71>post cold war aerospaceNASA being ultragay with blatant stupid photograph editing scams, soviet union replaced with pootin nu russia, predditors complaining not enough money to NASA scam, xitters cheerleading musk a simpsons con artist character irl, mUh UFO sIgHTing bullshitWe need a bunch of conans to raid the institutes and take out the thulsa dooms. Fraudass era.
https://www.gspace.com/post/update-on-eris-testflight1-investigation>Eris TestFlight1 lifted off from the Bowen Orbital Spaceport on 30 July 2025, marking a major step forward for Australia’s sovereign space capability. The vehicle subsequently experienced an in-flight anomaly, resulting in the vehicle being lost within the designated safety area.>Our investigation found that approximately nine seconds after ignition, one of the four first-stage hybrid rocket motors experienced a loss of thrust. A second motor exhibited similar behavior at around 17 seconds, reducing vehicle performance and bringing the mission to an early end. Analysis identified two independent failure modes originating from the oxidizer pump subsystem. Electrical and thermal faults were observed in the electric pump motors and associated inverters, including components sourced from an external supplier. We now have a clearer understanding of the underlying causes. Based on the findings of the investigation, design, qualification, and process improvements are being evaluated and implemented.>As with all first test flights, the mission was designed to generate flight data and uncover conditions not fully replicable in ground testing. Data from this flight is already informing updates to vehicle design and operations as we prepare for our next planned missions later this year. A final report has been submitted to the Australian Space Agency in coordination with the Office of the Space Regulator.
>>16964138the one on the left has so much soul compared to the crap on the right. The one on the right looks like a cgi render
>>16964199This is why nobody takes euros seriously. For people like america or china it’s just a matter of hardware output rate and/or quality control.For europe, literally half the battle is trying to convince the overlords to give you a license that allows you to seek another license that will maybe perhaps grant you the real license (which will only be valid between the hours to 2 and 3pm for two days only)P.S. Also special mention for russia and india (and previously ukraine), who are in their own boats with technical ability but just literally can’t get internal funding and can’t get their factories to do any production
>>16964209Oh, so rockets don't need launch licences in America?
>>16964204Space is actually more kino now than ever before. Although I will admit I’m tired of every airplane being the same 737/a320 design scaled up or down. I miss flying boats.
>>16964210It’s still an issue but I’m overlooking it becuase America is flying SHLVs more than other countries are launching their own shitsat launchers.
>China will return a Mars sample to Earth and prove life was/is thereBurgeroids, your response?
>>16964213Nuke China to prevent them from ending JPL's "is there life on Mars?" grift.
>>16964204>NASA being ultragay with blatant stupid photograph editing scams?
>>16964213>is
>>16964138Remember this time?
>>16964219based
>>16964219I remember how they deleted ActBlue, that was pretty cool.
>>16964216The changed what “true color” was for neptune
Why aren't solar sails a thing of reality?Seems like everyone, even the japenese, have given up after few attempts
>>16964213$1 billion to Israel!
>>16964225they are pointless if you can't move enough mass upwell to begin with
>>16964224so its not really fakery at all then.
>>16964219Low key I was worried some nut job was going to try and do something extreme and radical against Musk. People were acting more and more out of control around Jan 2025. To the point where trump got shot, firebombing innocent teslas and blowing up businesses and shit was starting to become common. Kirk’s neck exploding.Perhaps Musk’s melty and the distancing from politics was ultimately a good thing, people have seemed to have chilled out a little bit since then
>>16964225Count Dooku had a solar sail in Episode 2, so it's associated with evil!
>>16964234The world wasn't ready.IDK if it will ever be ready.Even regardless of Musk's actual politics that man is the antichrist to current government parasites.
>>16964247>true colorthis is retarded, no way the land on earth is that dark. And the exposure is completely random for each image.
>>16964251>And the exposure is completely random for each imageyou want mercury to be blown out and everything past saturn to be pitch black? you have to adjust to the different illumination of each planet
>>16964219poor bastard went through the /pol/ phase as a famous middle aged man rather than a recluse teenager. One of the top ways to humiliate yourself.
>>16964255it's scarily accurate to what i went through when i was 16, it's strange that he's only gone through it now.
>>16964254>you want mercury to be blown out and everything past saturn to be pitch black?Yes
>>16964256>it's strange that he's only gone through it now.I know right. Very strange guy. Considering he was a literal refugee escaping conscription in the ongoing race war in South Africa, yet he only started waking up when he saw low brow ragebait on twitter decades later.
>>16964258you bring up a good point, he should have gone through the early redpill phase a lot sooner considering his upbringing and location.
>>16964234they chilled out because the grift engine wasn't directly being threatened anymore
Solar sails can make multiple interplanetary trips without refueling. It is superior to chemical propulsion for interplanetary transport as long it is just cargo.
>>16964164Is that Saul Goodman?
Why does anyone ever care? Mars is the most boring of all the planets. I will he so happy when the Mars meme dies.
>>16964270Mars looks so annoying I could just punch it in the head.
>>16964267What if you use those 5-20 refueling Starship instead to bring solar sails into orbit, what would be the payload to Mars?
>>16964270because mars is easy.it's easy to get to, easy to land on, doesn't cook you alive and has solid ground
>“Following the identification of corrosion on HALO, a comprehensive investigation was promptly initiated,” a European Space Agency spokesperson said. “Preliminary findings indicate that the issue likely results from a combination of factors, including aspects of the forging process, surface treatment, and material properties.”
If humanity could access another solar system through a wormhole with existing sublight space technology, how might they go about colonizing it?I got an idea for the story I'm writing that NASA discovers a wormhole in the asteroid belt that connects to a binary star system in a distant galaxy. There are two suns, an F8 primary slightly hotter and brighter than our sun, and its M4 red dwarf companion. The two stars are separated by about 15 AU and orbit each other around once every 50 years.There are 9 planets in this system: 5 around the primary star, 3 around the red dwarf, and 1 in a wide circumbinary orbit. The 4th planet of the primary and the 2nd planet of the red dwarf both have liquid water on their surfaces.
>>16964279go watch interstellar
>>16964279Stop ripping off the Expanse
wow... when you lay it out like that, this shit ain't happening, sistershttps://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/2047693275205701915
>>16964138I love New Glenn. Such an aesthetic rocket. Unlike Starship. And it works. Also unlike Starship.
>>16964283this fag has been teasing this video for months or something nowback to work
ehh
>>16964283what the hell starship is HUGEwhy don't we just stack like six of them and just climb to the moon?
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/04/well-this-is-embarrassing-the-lunar-gateways-primary-modules-are-corroded/>“Using NASA-approved processes, Northrop Grumman is completing repairs to HALO after a manufacturing irregularity. We expect to complete repairs by the end of the third quarter. HALO can still be repurposed for any mission, and it’s the most mature technology to support a deep space or lunar habitat.” By referring to a “manufacturing irregularity,” Northrop answered the central mystery here: how corrosion could appear in both modules. This is because a French-Italian space and defense company, Thales Alenia Space, built the primary structure of HALO for Northrop Grumman. >Thales is a powerhouse of the European space industry. It built several pressurized modules of the International Space Station, and it’s working with Axiom Space to build its commercial space station. The company also had a big piece of the Lunar Gateway in addition to HALO, developing the I-HAB module and a future communications and refueling module known as ESPRIT. Ars reached out to Thales on Wednesday evening for a comment about the corrosion issues. We received no reply until Friday morning, when a spokesperson said, “We are working on statement. We will come back to you early next week.” Northrop Grumman provided a comment within several hours of a request on Wednesday.>The European Space Agency finally offered a comment on Friday. “Preliminary findings indicate that the issue likely results from a combination of factors, including aspects of the forging process, surface treatment, and material properties. Based on the investigation and available data, the corrosion issue was understood to be technically manageable and did not constitute a showstopper for I‑HAB, which was, in any case, in better conditions than HALO from a corrosion point of view,” the spokesperson said.
https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/2047687101051768981>The ULA Launch Readiness Review is GO to continue preps for launch of Atlas V with our sixth Amazon Leo constellation mission. Liftoff is planned for Monday, at 8:52 p.m. EDT (0052 UTC) from Cape Canaveral. Early weather forecast is 75% favorable. The evening launch will be visible from Florida to New England, if weather conditions in your area permit. This visibility map shows when and where your best chances are to see the rocket as it streaks northeasterly into space. ULA will offer live reports from launch control in our automatically refreshing blog beginning at 5:45 p.m. EDT (2145 UTC). The launch livestream starts at 20 minutes before liftoff.
>>16964283Don't worry Orion, it'll be your turn soon
>>16964286oh fuck!
>>16964288you don't hate euroids enough
>>16964283>>16964286All this to do what a Saturn V did in a single launch, lol.
>>16964295Wait a minute, why don't they just build more Saturn V rockets instead? Seems obvious, innit?
>>16964295the payloads here are going to be significantly different
>>16964297because elon needs his griftship
>>16964291That's the optimistic case. Recall Bergers "household name" says up to 40 tanker flights for one lunar landing.
Why not give Ceres an atmosphere? I think you can faster replenish it than it is stripped off.
>>16964299both of these vehicles carry two (2) astronauts and a car.
>>16964298So it takes like 20x the launches to deliver 6x the payload?
>>16964283Berger and House have already done their take on this a year ago. Basically, build a different mini Starship so you need fewer tanker flights. Of course, that destroys the entire rational of Moon ship is a Starship variant and requires another decade of redesign, building, testing and explosions -- but when you're just drawing spaceships in your school book you can do that.
>>16964306As long as we have to haul an entire journey's propellant up from Earth, we'll never get anywhere easily.
https://x.com/jrxcket/status/2047705583571050956
https://x.com/spaceOFFSHORE/status/2047648208520634677>The GO America finally arrived at Port Canaveral overnight after being clearly seen operating in the New Glenn landing zone. Something mysterious is tarped on the deck - it's definitely not an intact fairing half, but it's something. Wait and see what the future holds for Blue!
https://x.com/vantortech/status/2047684618640335086>Celebrating 36 years of discovery with the Hubble Space Telescope. Collected on April 23, 2026, by one of Vantor's WorldView Legion satellites, this remarkable non-Earth image showcases Hubble from just 61.8 km away—an incredible perspective of one of humanity’s most iconic scientific instruments. With a space sample distance of 4.0 cm, Hubble’s signature cylindrical body, gleaming thermal shielding, and extended solar arrays are clearly visible, along with the open aperture door at the front of the telescope. For over three decades, Hubble has expanded our understanding of the universe—delivering breathtaking imagery and groundbreaking science that continue to inspire. Proud to support the technologies and teams that make moments like this possible.
>>16964288https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2047710860055888211>I can confirm that the Axiom-1 module, also manufactured by Thales Alenia, has experienced a similar corrosion issue. Axiom still hopes to launch the module in 2028.Oh no
>>16964309Double checked. Bergers option, at least the one bookmarked so let's go with that, was HLS as is but disposable tankers to increase the prop per launch, depots in both Earth and Moon orbit, and everyone's favorite -- Moon Dragon.
>>16964318kind of crazy that we've come so far that it's a valid business to spy on other spacecraft
>>16964319VAST WON
Aliens. It's always aliens.
>>16964328it's lupus
>>16964288This is why NASA is right in not giving a landing seat to a Euro.
>>16964279where does the wormhole put you? If it's too far away it won't be worth it until fusion engines are common
>>16964301>>16964291Stuff like this is fact and yet SpaceXissies will freak out when you say Starship to the moon will cost over 1 billion dollars a pop. Artemis will be more expensive per mission than Apollo, which is quite ironic.
>>1696434740*10mil = 400 milcheck mate bro
>>16964247Venus is white in true color and Neptune is not that blue.
So is the double dashes ( -- ) the EDS-fag's new calling card?
>>16964350No one with an oz of sense believes Elon's $100 a kilo bald faced lie.
>>16964363BTW -- Falcon 9 is a demonstrated $3000 kg and that system is far up the learning curve.
>>16964254>true color>wtf do you mean you want true colors?
>>16964363okay 2mil then
>>16964368>here's a picture of my basement in true color>what do you mean you want me to turn the lights on?
>>16964372negative space kino
>>16964283One refuel, let alone 16, for a lunar mission is the dumbest shit I ever heard. It's comical.
>>16964251I have bad news for you anon. There has never been a "true color" image ever taken. No I'm not trolling
What is the point of this if they can't even LEO?One can't take shit to proper orbitOne is messing up my astro photography One RUDs
>>16964322how about SLIM style elaborate gravity assists?
>>16964386at least they get their payloads to orbit LMAO
>>16964376Same math that killed the 70s mission atudies with Saturn or Shuttle tankers. Doesnt pencil out.
>>16964376so you end up making lots of smaller payload flights instead of fewer large payload flights. pretty simple. it must be this way outside of some new propulsion technology
GrokAI - A member of the ElonCo family of fine brands
>>16964225Deployment of photon sails thin enough to work is difficult
Who hyped for Star City?
>>16964295You can’t build a base with a Saturn V, its limitations in that role were known 50 years ago
>>16964432Can't build a moon base with Starship either, because it simply does not work and will never ever meet it's targets for reuse and cost.
>>16964312link is dead. please tell me someone saved it.
>>16964444
>>16964426Dropped for all mankind after season one. Complete slop
>>16964399Why are all the people imbedded in their seats? Did the AI take inspiration from soyuz 1?
>>16964452Surprisingly, it somehow only gets worse
>>16964426I'm kind of excited, I just hope it doesn't have any stupid soap opera drama shit in it like ed's wife sleeping with her dead sons mate.
>>16964449
>>16964328Avi Loeb of Harvard's Astronomy Department says its Aliens!
>>16964467they were rehearsing a joke that wasn't in the actual livestream
aint shit going on, but there should be
>>16964476two weeks
https://x.com/astro_reid/status/2047770175131324548
>>16964399Okay this made me laugh.I love the idea that every module has a chamber for random guys in suits sitting in office chairs
>>16964482i have unresolved trauma from texas beaches
>>16964482Shitty ass galveston beach lmao. It’s comfy, though
>>16964328Tanker full of grape soda crashed en route to the black homeworld
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2047761136041275885
>>16964426I read that as Solar City and was confused for a moment.
>>16964476It’s chillin on the beach day, anon. Didn’t you get the memo? Man has the right to relax, even as he seeks exponential growth
>>16964433and other fantasies you can tell yourself as an angry EDSer grasping at straws.
>>16964482this is what fulfillment looks like
>>16964452Tards on here shilled that shit for years, it is so cringe I couldn't even make it through a 2 minute clip on youtube.
>>16964190Will the fart rocket work?
>>16964482imagine this scene but on titanone day, hey
>>16964499it has some good moments, it has a lot of gay moments and the further the show goes, the more common the gay retarded moments become
>>16964386>one can;t take shit to proper orbitit can.they can do leo, the main issue is you are a bad-faith liar.starship suborbit test: 7.4 km/sorbit: 7.6-7.8 km/snow we watch as the EDSer goes into a panic, seeing real numbers, and now frantically searches for a cope reason why starship magically doesn't have that last 200 m/s in the tank.
>>16964499>nasa gets its first female flight director>disasterwhat did they mean by this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hemp2c_X97s
>>16964507lol wrong rocket dumbass. get your panties untwisted
>>16964499yeah I realized everyone was a faggot and cried all the time and they replaced that guys white son with an asian that was insane. You can just watch clips to look at all the cgi
>>16964344About 3 AU from the primary sun.
>>16964512and this is how far from the nearest planets orbit?
>Once upon a time, Elon Musk was a counterculture idealist bringing power to the people. Today he's a greedy monopolist who’d sooner destroy our democracy than be reined in by government in any way—and he has to be stopped.>the stakes will surely be higher than we’re able right now to know. Democrats, and indeed all humankind, should prepare for a long and bitter fighthttps://newrepublic.com/article/208876/tech-world-evil-musk-bezos-thiel
>>16964516Journalists are an imminent threat to the common good and represent an intrinsic refute to the social contract
>>16964256>>16964258Half of his posts are still fighting the race war. He's always fighting yesterday's news.
>>16964516he is still a counterculture idealist, its just that woke became "the culture"
>>16964258he realized that there is no running from it anymore, seems pretty simple to me
24-minute video from SpaceX about Starship. It looks like a documentary of sortshttps://x.com/SpaceX/status/2047800137133756633
>>16964524whoa
>>16964524four to six weeks and two more documentaries until starshit launch
>>16964526cry about it incel
>>16964524the campaign officially begins
>>16964528why are they going all out for this flight? is V3 really that big of a deal or is this all for the upcoming IPO?
>>16964529no idea but excitement is guaranteed
>>16964529Both. Unironically a 50/50 scenario!
>>16964524>can stay up in orbit for 48 hoursuhh muskbros?will v4 fix this?
>>16964529the ipo has something to do with it, but also, they've just made a lot more refinements, they have a whole new pad built with the lessons of the previous one, and they're getting close to finalizing the design for starship at this point the major engineering decisions seem pretty much done, all the larger kinks have been worked out, the last suborbital test showed a very intact spacecraft at the end of it and i think they're confident that they've now conquered that portion of flight like everything before it.
>>16964459I will be watching for Rhys Ifans as Korolev
huh i'm surprised they would even mention this lol
>>16964516Jew
>>16964524>SpaceX engineers are working to solve one of the most difficult engineering challenges in history: developing a fully, rapidly reusable rocketActually launching it from time to time helps
>>16964524>24 minutes So longer than Saarship has spent in space, lmao.
>>16964516In hindsight Elon trying to make X the everything app was probably a clue the guy thought monopoly was a feature, and not a degenerate case of regulatory failure
Is this good?
>>16964529V3 is that big of a deal, yes. This is the intended operational version of the rocket that they've been working toward the whole time. SpaceX of course never said it out loud, but none of the previous versions were anywhere close to performance/payload goals, they were systems test-beds. People who were paying attention knew this. This is why we haven't seen even a hint of hardware for a payload door other than the Starlink slot—they weren't about to waste engineering time on a capability like that for a rocket that would be obsolete before it was even done being built.The insane weight savings and moderate performance bump from this semi-finalized version of Raptor are most of what make V3 the "real" Starship, along with various structural optimizations and whatnot.
>the 33 engine static fire was aborted early due to pad issuesuh... two weeks sisters?
>>169645424 to 6 weeks!
>>16964426It will be woke.
this has to be the most kino thing spacex has ever postedperhaps other than some livestream moments
>>16964516unbelievable bullshit. monopolist? lmao. must be stopped? these fuckers should be held responsible when one of their commie goons gets violent.
>>16964541>SpaceX of course never said it out loud, but none of the previous versions were anywhere close to performance/payload goals, they were systems test-beds.they actually did say that in the video nowbut yes, correct, not really sure if people weren't aware of this or if they were pretending to not be awareits not like it was really a secret
>>16964526>>16964537>>16964538dont these losers get tired of being like they are?
>>16964539a vertically integrated service doesn't mean its a monopolymonopolies are horizontal taking over a specific markettaking a horizontal slice of many different markets is completely different
>>16964549*vertical slice I mean
>"sure hope it works"
>>16964548I was being sincere
>>16964540Dunno but this is.
>>16964499>it is so cringe I couldn't even make it through a 2 minute clip on youtubelol literally me
>>16964541I think that v3 still isn't hitting the performance goals that they (nominally) had for v1. But I hope they at least accept that this is what they're getting and start putting starship into revenue service.
>>16964524Made for the upcoming IPO
>>16964547>they actually did say that in the video nowOh shit cool, I need to watch that when I get home
>>16964544its like S04 - labor dispute on mars. cant believe they're reusing the same plot line.
so both the aborted/interrupted static fires were due to sensor issues on stage 0, not due to the booster
>>16964560its really good
>>16964562how delightfully counterintuitive
>>16964560bro its gonna be a SERIES of videos???https://www.spacex.com/content
S36 aftermathI think like most of the videos are new?maybe some drone flyovers are old but thats just a few clips
>>16964565have to spoon feed the tankwatching experience to the public (or the interested IPO buyers) to get an idea whats going on
> Stafford said in a 1999 interview that there was a real concern that Cernan would not be able to re-enter the capsule. Since it would not have been acceptable for Stafford to cut Cernan loose in orbit, he stated that his plan was to make re-entry with the astronaut still attached by his umbilical. However, such an action would have resulted in the deaths of both men.wew
>>16964532no. no refunds.we werentjoking when w said its obviously a starlink bus btw. this thingwill never land on the moon let alone mars.
>>16964524https://x.com/danhuot/status/2047804950969758133
>>16964548it's mostly one guy pretending to be retarded 24/7.my diagnosis is parental neglect.
>>16964573that is for this specific starlink bus versionobviously that doesnt mean that all v3 based starships have a max time of 48hwhy do you have to be like this?
>>16964570is that jah
>>16964570It takes men of queer backgrounds and phenotypes and dispositions to change the world. Only someone this unique could come up with something like raptor v3
>>16964562https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/2047809434261373324
>>16964577one love
>>16964524Ok the music in this is actually pretty good, interstellar vibes (shit movie) but good. Best music SpaceX have done since the 2016 ITS cgi video.
>>16964576see >>16964575
>>16964426Are we gonna find out WHY they allowed illegal immigrants on Mars?
>>16964582they're using music from https://lensdistortions.com/its the same place where they used music for their starship flight recap vids
>>16964570Thunderfoot's black doppleganger
>>16964586Every time I see this guy I'm reminded of that dude in Independence Day
>>16964585damn, so they don't make it in house anymore? SpaceX has declined.
>teacher says urinis to avoid saying anus
>>16964589she should be saying caelus
>>16964570>>16964578if he worked for nasa I'd call him a diversity hire but since he's at spacex I know he's insanely good at making rocket engines.
>>16964589say you wouldnt mind your dick visiting her anus, if she catches your drift.
>>16964591I think he was some pretty young engineer working on the raptor team when Musk fired the lead and promoted him to it
>>16964586I just can't understand why he doesn't groom himself. His clothes, his beard, the messy hair... he looks like a bum.
>>16964588They never made their own music.
>>16964560yep, well worth it. very nice>>16964575sad really
https://x.com/KenKirtland17/status/2047761512492597375
>>16964589I hate the Uranus joke so, so much, even more than flat earthers and Apollo deniers. It's basically made it impossible to talk about the planet, at least in the English language.
>>16964597>>16964283https://x.com/KenKirtland17/status/2047762857299775997
>>16964598lol poopie :)
>>16964588the music from the ITS video was basically stolen from orbiter 2010 thoughhttps://youtu.be/Yr8EWPuwOL4?si=Bc3_LZqcTn8HSu74
>>16964598you wanna, like, talk about uranus? ahuhhuhuhuhuu
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/24/technology/elon-musk-spacex-loans.html?unlocked_article_code=1.dVA.mftz.QW8lmpJsNV1U&smid=url-sharetl:dr Musk loaned money from SpaceX and paid it back years ago
>>16964603ScamX...
>>16964482he's about to come out as a gayfag isn't he
>>16964599>>16964597so gateway was absolutely retarded from the get go
>>16964608yes, always has been
>>16964603these organizations always make the people they hate look cool, happens all the time with Trump, too.
>>16964482DOOD BEACHES AND WAVES normoid nonsense
https://x.com/NASASpox/status/2047734958077202845
>>16964612I aint clicking that nigga, write a fucking post
>>16964613
>>16964615>face painted>lashes painted>lips painted>hair painted>fingernails paintedI summize that she paints the rockets?
>>16964613It's an actual NASA account update video.>From the Moon, to Mars, and to deep space, @NASA is on the move!> Roman Telescope now targeting September launch> Crew-13 announced> Artemis III core stage rolls out> Curiosity finds new signs of ancient chemistry on Mars>Here’s the latest in your NASA Minute!
>>16964617ok, incel
>>16964621I'm just objecting to posting twitter links without an image or remarks
>>16964325https://x.com/Exogynous/status/2047758842969075801>Same stuff but the EU REACH regulations ban chromate based conversion coatings which cope very well with these kinds of structures. Forging changes and Friction Stir Welding create slight imperfections which Chromates "self heal". Chromium free alternatives have incredibly tight tolerances in application and do not self heal. >ESA did a study on this (STM-276) specifically tested Alodine 1200S (chromate) versus chromium-free alternatives (Alodine 5700, Iridite NCP, Nabutan) on exactly the alloys in question—Al2219 and Al7075—under space-relevant conditions. Chromate (Alodine 1200S): Zero visible corrosion or pitting on any alloy, even after thermal cycling + salt spray. The coating remained intact and protective. Chromium-free alternatives: Rapid pitting and surface corrosion on Al2219 and Al7075 within 24–48 hours (much worse on the high-strength/high-copper alloys used for pressure shells and secondary structures). Poor adhesion and defects (peeling, black spots) were also noted.>The study concluded that chromium-free options were inadequate for high-strength aerospace aluminum and recommended sticking with traditional chromates for ESA spacecraft. Thales Alenia went with the regulations...
why is SpaceX so fond of NSF?
>>16964624my ancestor :)
>>16964624based protestor. these xitter spammers are a cancer
>>16964625well, there goes european spaceflight
160th SOAR should get a base on the moon to rescue stranded astronauts. Just replace the helo rotorblades with hydrazine thrusters and Bob's your uncle
>>16964562scamx cope
>>16964625I don't understand, how could this happen?
>breaks after firing for 2 secondsdelightfully counterintuitive
>reusable rocket engine
>>16964562
>>16964645kino
>>16964647hahahhhasemen
>>16964647regenerative cumming
>>16964368Are you eyes unable to adjust to different lighting?
>>16964653that's not the correct flag ratio
>>16964290brutal
>>16964283We need to use Starship to assemble a giant nuclear electric/nuclear thermal hybrid tug in orbit, and have that thing ferry mass to the Moon, and get refueled from the lunar mass drivers. Starship is best as a reuseable orbital workhorse. Why Musk thinks it's for getting shit to other planets, when he can use it to put up the stuff which can, I don't know.
>>16964641umm, aktually it was the emergency shutdown that caused the damage
>>16964255>>16964256>>16964258It's part of the PayPal mafia strategy of inflaming grievances to get their guys into positions of political power. Once in power they just get money from the government, reduce regulation, and get cheaper labor. The only relevance of the actual content is that it makes you upset enough to vote. That's it. They don't actually care. I'll revise this opinion if anything ever comes of any of the issues besides talking about them
>>16964225Solar Sails are the Hydrogen cars of space, at that point there are better alternatives
>>16964625Grok?We're living here in Allentown. REACH regulation is transitioning from authorization to a strict ban on most hexavalent chromium (Cr(VI)) substances in the EU, with a formal proposal due in 2025 and potential bans taking effect by late 2028. Key compounds like chromium trioxide and dichromates are classified as carcinogens and Islamaphobic.
>>16964624Boo hoo! I can't click on a link. I just did my nails. Boo hoo!Life sure is tough for you girls.
>>16964605SpaceYecch
>>16964548Oh, you're still not cried out yet.
>>16964547Are you sure? Because our resident musk cheerleader insisted v2 had 98% of orbital velocity and could have easily gone into orbit. But Elon Donna wanna.
>>16964675yes? that isn't contradicting the fact that it was a test bed still
conestoga could have made it to orbit if it didn't explode
>>16964524How about "8 moths since the last flight."? That's the reality of your daily launch refuel on a hot pad grift.
>>16964677Starship is ready! No, Starship is still a test project and can't be blamed for any failures! What do I need to say to protect Elonbae?It was always only a lie.
I love her so much bros
>>16964683what Nhentai tags would this have
>>16964644it'll form itself back into a bell if you just reignite it
>>16964687anyone have the falcon 9 tin snips engine bell crack image?
>>16964426> Any media> in 2026Hard pass m8
>>16964683yuck
>>16964499Checked there is not a single good space live action series, Expanse only has one decent first season, SENPAI is so pozzed they contradicts itself on what are they trying to psyop you in, 3BP are more subtle on the westernization but still all of them are a waste of time.
Fully reusable with daily launch and landing with refuel on a hot pad.
>>16964611I understand how he feels but its faggy to make a twitter post about it
>>16964611>DOOD BEACHES AND WAVESI say this but about titan
>>16964670I hate twitter links because for some reason I get out of the session every damn day, i have to log in and the redirect url is the home page, having to go back to the previous link and reload. People shit on twitter screenshots but at least i can read the info instantly
>>16964696Not your blog so no one is interested in what you like.
>>16964698You are interested enough to write, solve a captcha and click Submit, faggot r3dditor. Thanks for reading my blog
>>16964290KEK
>>16964699No U!Always a snappy comeback.
>>16964663Very likely the case. Elon has a proven track record of lying like a psychopath. His lies are not random mistakes, they all make him richer. So it wouldnt be a surprise that the politics stuff is 100% a front. He lies so much that it's got me thinking inr ecent years that even the multiplanetary civilization stuff is a lie to make money too. It certainly worked.
>>16964683This era of spaceflight was the most depressing there has ever been. DONT take me back.
The EDS-fag sure is posting a lot for a friday night. Must not have anything better to do.
>>16964702So why does he want money? What's his actual dream?
>>16964707Goal? Elon just indulges in the mortal sin of greed. That's the juice.
>>16964209>india>technical abilityHello sir
>>16964707Why do grossly wealthy people usually want money? The whole reason why the Elon cult of personality gained traction is because he appeared to be an exception to the rule of rich people, in that he wanted money to do great things rather than to simply have money. It was a fantasy we all wanted to believe in, because the idea of a world where a visionary can get rich and do great things simply by following his passion is very just and righteous. It makes us feel like our huyis out there making the dream come alive. But it's just a story. In the real world people who follow their passions always end up poor. People who get grossly wealthy do so because they have a lust for money. They collect it and hoard it, and will lie cheat and steal til the day they die. Look at Trump for example, the guy is on his death bed and is still scamming everyone he can.
>>16964708The problem is your theory has to attribute more genius to him than he actually has. Are you really saying that him fucking around with trying to buy a rocket from the Russians back when he knew barely anything about it in the early 2000s was part of a masterplan he was sure would be profitable, even though everyone else thought it was retarded? I'm willing to believe he's greedy, but to say that spaceflight hasn't been a genuine obsession ends up attributing too much to his powers of clarvoyance. Especially when we know he's shit at predicting things.
>>16964712You're being too binary, and there's no way to prove what you're saying without mindreading anyway.> In the real world people who follow their passions always end up poor.No, they don't. Unless you consider highly successful musicians and artists poor too. I mean, relative to billionaires, yes, but following passion or not has nothing to do with it. It's about whether they get lucky.
>>16964712Trump is easy to read becuase his IQ is a standard deviation below the mean, but if you read between the lines you can see Elon having pulled the same behaviour in a far more ssucesful and subtle way. He has sucesfully played the autistic savant to pull the wool over peoples eyes. He uses it to hide his strong skills in manipulating people. This is how he has become the most successful capitalist in history. In the Musk biography itis more or les detailed how he would stay up all night thinking of the next big way to scam investors, that's why they held autonomy day for example.
>>16964482Did shrooms on a beach in San Diego. It was a bit overwhelming too
>>16964713No one with any sense considers Elon a genius. "Elon learned how to be a rocket engineer just by watching" was always just simp talk. He's just a sewer rat that clawed over other rats to stay above water.
>>16964704only because the government didn't want to do anything. Don't blame the shuttle for that
>>16964718>No one with any sense considers Elon a genius.based alternate reality poster
>>16964707>why does a billionaire want more money>imagining they have actual dreamsyou can not form a theory of mind for these people. they are not like you. they are not like anyone you know.
>>16964328Spice worms or something
>>16964588>>16964595What happened to Test Shot Starfish?
>>16964683braphog
>>16964688I only have this
>>16964730that's the one
>>16964718But your own theory was that everything he did was a carefully calculated plan to make money. You've got yourself in a bind there. It makes much more sense that he just got the space bug in the 2000s and it paid off/he got lucky.
>>16964524I hate how there's no option to have a larger player. It's either a tiny portion of the screen with bigass borders, or complete full screen. No in between. Elon pls fix.
>>16964718trvke
>>16964747Just use picture-in-picture, nigga.
>>16964754that's good bait
>>16964718Elon musk is the absolute undisputed millennium champion autist engineer wrangler
>>16964503Hahahahah based its this the new arca? Lol
>>16964717Shrooms on space must be a one way ticket to /x/chizo>>16964704Bitch ass gay, it was only depressing cause they didnt let the venture star flyVenture star > starship
>>16964754kek
>>16964720The shuttle scared the government away from doing anything for years.
sfg is moribund
>>16964771also rotund
Why the fuck didnt they use a giant heat shield that mounted on the shuttle instead of separated tiles? Starship should do this
https://x.com/i/status/2047922042670866516Ermmm...what the sigma?? Elon confirms SpaceX working on nuclear full flow rotating detonation muon catylized scramjets
>>16964776>Waithow long
>>16964776HOLY AEROSPIKE
>>16964776you bitch, I thought for a second he had actually announced a nuclear engine
>>16964718>just by watchingno, by building a rocket company through trial and error.elon musk is a rocket engineer, this is an indisputable fact and makes people seethe.
>>16964781elon musk is a rocket engineer, because -- he just is okay!No, he isn't. Stop simping. It's embarrassing.
>>16964781Oh, and his rocket company? Losing billions and currently 30% revenue negative. So Elon sucks at that too.
>>16964776he's hinting at AI
>>16964663>paypal mafiayou're hysterical, calm down schizo.also talking to yourself is weird, cut that out.
@Grok what should we change for Raptor V4?
>>16964675>musk cheerleaderno, just a simple fact lister but these facts make you obscenely angry, so it must mean i'm somehow a musk cheerleader in your schizo mind.
>>16964782This, he just is
>>16964784Open the pod gay doors, Grok
>>16964782you have parental neglect issues, EDS-san this is why you crave attention.stop asking for attention by pretending to be a retard, it's embarrassing.also stop replying twice, it's weird, just reply with one post like a normal person.
>>16964776Scale has a way of catching people off guard. For the purposes of SpaceX's payload ambitions, the hardware they've built is just a drop in the requirements bucket.
>>16964776bro we've been waiting
>>16964793Vagueposters should be dissolved in acid
so now that the dust has settled, what's the final verdict on the tape outgassing drive?how high an ISP could one get from the outgassing of ductape inside an outgassing chamber and passing it through a teeny tiny de laval nozzle?
>>16964769other way around
guys i saw the big dipper today
>>16964803Triangulating ur location as we speak.
>>16964803cute
>>16964806ok let me know if you find the piece from a wooden plank i used to prop my phone against
>>16964776Sure, I'm waiting.
tf is this
>>16964796That's vague? Sheesh. Just start multiplying Elon's stated launch rates against the estimated hardware lifetimes. A booster good to 100 launches and flies once a week is completely spent within two years. A booster that flies three times a day is spent in a single month. If we model "airport-like operations," a modest sized hub airport sees over 100 flights a day. You can round up or down from this figure as you see fit, but for now, let's assume 100 flights a day. Any way you slice it, if a booster lasts 100 flights and 100 flights happen each day, one entire booster life will be consumed every single day. The production rate will have to match on a one to one basis to keep up with demand, and that means a daily production of 33 engines, or however many engines future boosters launch with, every day. Ships going through reentry probably have much shorter lifetimes, so lets assume they can make 50 flights before they're no longer fit for duty. The same arithmetic applies here: two ships need to be built every day, and a dozen engines for those ships. Or 18, depending if they actually go to six RVACs. 100 flights a day means 4500 to 5100 Raptor engines a year. These are nice round numbers, so you can divide by 10 if you assume 10 flights a day, multiply by 10 if you assume 1000 flights a day, etc. Even if you get pessimistic and assume one flight a week — the likely operational minimum for maintaining an under-scaled Starlink constellation equivalent to the current size with no other launches — they use up the flight life of a ship and booster every two years, necessitating a continuous low rate of production even in the most dire circumstances.
>>16964823divine protection from the space demons
>>16964823roscosmos launches get blessed by an orthodox priest
>>16964803Isn't that something easily seen
Remember this time?
>>16964524>new ship>new booster>new engines>new explosionsgod bless elon. MMGA
>>16964803I see it often. It's pretty visible even with light pollution. Same with Orion.
Will Pandora and PLATO observe TRAPPIST-1?
>>16964882Doesn't look like it.https://pandorasat.com/targets/#target-list
Shrimple as
>>16964825>estimated hardware lifetimesany assumptions on this end up being kind of useless because it's one of the biggest unknowns remaining in the program, we don't know the hardware lifetimes, and on top of that, repairs can be performed, parts swapped out, you're assuming it's not maintained when issues are found and then thrown in the garbage can after a magical number, this is dumb.
>>16964888It's a sensitivity analysis, not a hard judgement; it could be better, it could be worse. But it will be limited. The steel will be heat loaded, it will start to respond differently, and eventually it will fall out of spec. It's not like mild steels where you can re-weld the material infinitely: eventually it stops playing nice. When the 304 starts to wear out, it's done, and the damage is accelerated by increased temperature. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/373861774_Mechanical_Characterization_of_Fatigue_and_Cyclic_Plasticity_of_304L_Stainless_Steel_at_Elevated_Temperature
>>16964823Cargo cult christianity.The russian orthodox church is extremely corrupt and controlled by the government, and they do all the things that you would expect corrupt heretics to do. Spray "holy water" on fucking everything, accept bribes for forgiveness, sell you overly expensive and pointless charms and effigies, or report you to the glowies for wrongthink.Almost nobody in russia actually goes to church, so watching them LARP as le last bastion of orthodox faith is always funny, it's so performative.>Picrel: picture of patriarch with 30.000$ wristwatch that he got with corruption money was posted on church website>Govt panicked and quickly replaced it with a "corrected version".>Patriarch insisted that he had never worn or had possession of the watch lol.
>>16964825Hence musk talking about producibg 1k to 10k ships per year eventually
>>16964884All tiles shaken off every flight, excitement guaranteed!
>>16964834Obama turned out to be one of the worst race grifters there isThe culturr was just about to be "color blind", now its probably the worst it has been in like since 1950 I believed he had good intentions then
>>16964891kek, they are truly god's funniest mistake.btw, does anyone know when HERA will reach Dimorphos? i wanna see the results of humanity smacking the shit out of it's little bitch brother.
>>16964895he was mentored by hard core black racist communists and therefore never came within several parsecs of a good intention
>>16964891kek
>>16964899Yes, I said thenLeftists/EDS people keep whining that Musk changed, I was wonderkng what took him so longI guess he was just so engrossed in the companies that he had to personally suffer from the insanity multiple times in a severr way before realizing how bad it had gotten
What value of shares will you buy when SpaceX IPOs?
>>16964906no, the then was long before he ever got into politics.
>>16964913Sure, but i was talking from personal POV, I didn't know it then
>>16964902>>16964891unfortunately for russia, AIslop was not an option for them back then, some glownig in a slightly musty office had to manually edit that watch out, and he forgot the remove the reflection of it on the table.pic unrelated, cute girl.
>>16964912doesn't matter because Elon says we'll have UHI because of robots. spend your money NOW before it becomes worthless
>>16964754If only musk was also a nazi
>>16964895It's good the color blind shit is going away as it always was just a ploy to ruin white people with racemixing
>>16964912The real strat will be to buy cheap shit like Firefly or Intuitive Machines, since all space stocks are gonna get boosted when they IPO
>>16964945I was assuming they would dump because everyone would shift their stock from them to spacex, at least during the IPO.
>>16964482bro just got laid for the first time and felt like bragging
>>16964645space defense used to be kino, they had megawatt radars and hypersonic missile interceptors. where did it all go so wrong?
https://x.com/AswathDamodaran/status/2047465544782430447https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/04/to-trillion-dollars-and-beyond-spacex.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhY5EF1_LjQ
>>16964661>Why Musk thinks it's for getting shit to other planets, when he can use it to put up the stuff which can, I don't know.idk it's stupidfirst thing starship should put into orbit is a solar ion tugsecond is a big cargo bay1+1 equals mars cycler
>>16964953you actually need the reusable rocket firstif those things you say make sense, they will happen
>>16964952slop.not AI slop mind you, just normal slop.
Proxima Centauri is within reach.
>>16964958I am still a proponent of Breakthrough Starshot. It would be worth it to build a citykiller death space laser and use it for good, with thousands of spammed microsats to our closest star system
>>16964954>you actually need the reusable rocket firstno, anon, you do not.>if those things you say make sense, they will happenhahahahaha it's like you've been in a coma for the last 5 decades.
>>16964962what I was implying that the shit you propose is retarded
>>16964963why?
If Jared was ACTUALLY based he would say NASA is building a project orion ship for the Moon to Mars initiative
https://x.com/XploraSpace/status/2048034450550772112>We know a few who have a vested interest in running fast… Superb spot for admiring yesterday’s launch of the Long March 2D, but not sure the authorities would appreciate it. Classic scene at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center, nestled in a narrow valley of the Daliang Mountains (~1500m).
https://x.com/dsshhh112/status/2048022760065208672>At 20:15 Beijing Time on April 25, 2026, China successfully launched a Long March-6, with the payload being the Pakistan PRSC-EO3 satellite.There are as-yet unconfirmed rumors that this could be the last LM-6 launch
>>16964977Nothing of value would be lost if it were the last Chinese launch, ever
>>16964966mars cyclers don't make sense until you have massive amounts of people going to mars regularly (if ever, mars cyclers might not just make sense in general, the benefit is basically just a bit more room for the passengers for the trip)but to do that in the first place you need cheap mass to orbit for many reasons
i noticed this in the test like you fly video.does anyone know what these new protruding parts could be? what ship number is this? could it be related to docking with an orbital depot?
>>16964980they are the ship to ship docking mounts
>>16964975-9999999999 social credit
>>16964980Hug pegs bc they aren’t doing ass to ass anymore
>>16964786>multiple people are educated on a topic and agree with each other>assume they're all the same person And I'm the schizo?
>>16964980penis
>>16964980i was bored
>>16964983>>16964980https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1928185351933239641from last years presentation (timestamp 19:37)the clip about the docking is here I think, but kind of difficult to find if SpaceX has posted it similarly somewhere as standalonehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzuNB5GcJsg
>>16964998
>>16964992>one person constantly has emotional meltdown ITT>obsesses over elon musk 24/7, calls others obsessed>samefags all the time>NOOOOOOO YOU'RE THE SCHIZO!lolyou are not "multiple people" my schizo fren, it's embarrassing, stop trying to consensus crack.
when will this pos fly?
>>16965002two weeks
>>16965002when will this P.O.S (Pristine, Opulent Ship) fly? when it's ready.
>>169650024 to 6 weeks
>>169650022026
>wake up>arms and legs are restrained>see thiswhat do?
>>16965001I only posted >>16964663 and >>16964723 and those are my first posts here in a few months because I haven't posted regularly after Starship dev slowed down. I expected everyone to disagree anyway, that would have been the response two years ago for sure. You are genuinely losing your marbles.
>>16965008sure honey.now take your lithium
>>16965009The trip to Mars will be locked behind very strict psych screeningYou are stuck here forever
>>16965010see >>16965009
>>16965008I'm not the guy you're responding to, but there is 100% a schizo here who has made it his life's mission to shit up this thread, because he is obsessed with elon.
>>16965012There is not just one. I know for a fact because I'm one of them and most of the time you are freaking out over someone else. Not everyone who is outside the Elmo cult of personality is a troll. I used to love the guy.
let me be blunt: is there a HLS crisis in America today?
>>16965015>elmo cult of personalitywe're not in a cult of personality, we're just not hysterical, obsessed with him and blatantly in denial of reality like you are.i don't have to like elon musk to recognize that he is a capable engineer and that there is plenty of anecdotal evidence to support this from people who also didn't like him yet still worked with him.>i used to love the guythen you are a retard, liking public personalities without knowing them personally is a sign of low intelligence. understanding them is fine, it feels more like you're projecting your own previous experience being engrossed in his "cult of personality" onto everyone else.elon musk is impulsive, socially inept, autistic, somewhat egotistical and has a saviour complex.he is also highly intelligent, has a degree in physics, has been known to pick up new disciplines quickly (rocket engineering being one example), and is exceedingly good at recruiting the right people into his companies.both of these are true at the same time, this level of nuance is impossible for you to understand because you are a low IQ redditor who used to think elon was your wholesome tech daddy and felt "betrayed" and bitter about everything associated with him after he showed some of his bad sides and (optionally) disagreed with you on some politics.
>>16964482what people say they need to process things, do they systematically think about every aspect of their experiences?what do they mean?I have to write in order to maintain a link of 4 thoughts
>>16964663they branwashed 4chan for a long time:https://bylinetimes.com/2026/04/14/the-neo-nazi-enforcer-who-helped-build-peter-thiels-online-influence-empire/also, even /pol/ found out that the board was probably created on request by no one other than Epstein himself kek>>16964786>>16965001>retard doesn't know what the paypal mafia is or why is it called like thatlmao
>>16964975Chink cheaper Starlink when? I know SeX had to launch a shitton of rockets to reach a decent service, but I think They have the capabilities to pull it off
>>16965017theres no reasoning with the EDS types. imagine the level of irrationality it takes to post, day after day, the emotion laden trash we see itt. many generals have weird losers like that and the best thing is just to ignore them. sadly you cant block posts by ID on this board.
>>16965001holy meltyeds alert!
>>16965017>we're just not hysterical, obsessed with himI barely give him any thought. I thought about him morewhen I thought he was the greatest man to ever live.>he is a capable engineernever disagreed. You seem to have some crazy strawman in your head which makes you angry everytime you open this general.>level of nuance is impossible for you to understandBuddy, it's funny that when I try to introduce nuance you freak the fuck out and basically say Elon can do no wrong. Yes Elon has most of the positive traits ascribed to him, but he also is a compulsive liar who lies in a calculated way for his own financial gain.
>>16965026>and basically say elon can do no wrongand there you have it folks, i never said this, nor have i ever meant to say this, it's written all over my post, and yet somehow, giving a measured response makes me a musk fanboy.
>>16965025>holy meltythe only melties occuring in this general are from you, my irony-poisoned zoomer friend.
>>16965028I don't know which posts are yours jackass, put a signature or something
>>16965031are you one of Musks unrecognized bastards or why are you so salty
>>16965032just so you know this is not me
>>16965033this is me
> Gemini spacecraft was designed by a Canadian wtf
>>16965026>when I thought he was the greatest man to ever live.here's the problem with your entire way of thinking right here. no wonder you carry on like you do, since you do a reasonable impression of being a jilted lover.fucking grow up.
>>16965030>n-no U!!!don't forget to breathe in between your fits, eds-chan
>>16965016Nobody actually expected to have to fulfil the contract so both participants have only made cardboard cutout landers so far
And here we go again with the Musktrannys and their emotional ad homenim repsonses.
Where?
Here is the truth: Elon bad because he is good in what he does. We humans (everyone, including the elites) will be replaced by AI embodied in robots if Elon continues to have success. Starship must fail so data centers in space will never become reality.
>>16965017So, still insisting Elon learned how to be a rocket engineer just by having occasional meetings with real rocket engineers. And Elon learned how to be a doctor by going to the doctor. But you're not a cultest or anything.
>>16964825Grok, I'm gonna suck Elon's cock
>>16964979> the benefit is basically just a bit more room the benefit is you can have the energy for free, from the sun, and just feed them reaction mass from time to timeliterally just take a step back and violently fuck yourself in the face
>>16965047no, he used multiple years to read books, just like people in college do but additionally he had the privilege of actually asking excellent aerospace engineers how different things work and really drill them on these
>>16965049do you know what a cycler is your dumb fuck?the point is not to use propellant much if at all
>>16965001 stop trying to consensus crack! Just stop okay!You simply have a problem with people disagreeing with you and refusing to indulge in your fantasies. Science and Math. Only facts matter.
>>16965052yes, cockbreathI know what a cycler iswhat you do not understand is cyclers make little sense with chemical engines but very much sense with solar-ion propulsion or, even better, with solar sailscyclers spend a ton of time not actively being useful, fuckface. that's an ideal use case for high isp low acceleration propulsion systems
>>16965055the fact is they simply don't make much sense
>>16965034i am everyone
>>16965038>EDS-chanthe guy constantly screeching about how much he hates musk is the EDS-chan.>>16965043if by musktranny you mean anti-musk EDS-ers, then yes.
>>16965057>I'm going to just simply restate my case and you're going to have to believe it because you just have tonot how debates work, dicklips
>>16965047>still insistingi am not insisting anything, you are insisting he's suddenly no longer an engineer because he's not your reddit god anymore.>just by having occassional meetingsno, by every single one of those engineers being impressed by his engineering skills.i don't know why the fact that a ton of good engineers don't even have degrees makes you so angry.
>>16965035you're welcome
>>16965061>every single one of those engineers being impressed by his engineering skills.so where is the genius' mars rocket? he can impress all the engineers but can't even impress /sfg/? this Ylon guy sounds like a loser
>>16965051Elon also watched accountants now he's a CPA. Elon also had meetings with lawyers, so now he's a lawyer too.
>>16965060also what you seem to be describing isn't a cycler, the point is to have a free return trajectoryyou are simply describing some in-space transfer vehicle that uses solar ion propulsionbut the problem with that is, how do you slow down? what do you do when you get to mars do you bring a starship with you as a lander?if you do that you just made everything orders of magnitude more complicated by creating some whole new vehicle that needs to be refueled and can't be used standalonethe benefit with Starship is that it doesn't need to slow down using propellants due to aerobraking into mars atmosphereand you want to build this massive purely in-space vehicle before you actually make bringing mass to space cheap, knowing that it needs to get topped up by propellant anyway constantlyplease go through your reasoning in detail because it doesn't really make sense to, no part of it does
>>16965065read books retard, not watchedthat is something you made and keep repeating even after it gets directly addressedyou are demented
@grok sir make a fictional argument between a Musk hater and a Musk lover to spam /sfg/ thank u.
>>16965054uh oh, the pretend-retard is having another anti-musk melty.
>>16965061Elon was never educated as an engineer. Never had a job as an engineer. So he is not and never was an engineer. Run through your mom's house slamming doors all you want and that's never changing, no matter what SpaceX Scientologists insist.
>>16965051Elon played games, now he's literally one of the best gamers in the wo-https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-admits-to-paying-people-to-play-video-games-for-him-2000552872you people are so naive and trusting kek>b-but EDS!imagine making up mental illnesses while being a brainwashed idiot yourself and falling for LLM-driven propaganda.
>>16965064extremely low quality bait.
>>16965065wow you're getting really mad lmao.no matter how many of these strawmen you fling out, you will keep losing.
>>16965072>he was never educated as an engineercorrect, but he did have an education that gave him literally everything he needed to get started, and he learned as he went during the early days of spacex, at the time he knew basically nothing about rocketry, over time he has become quite the expert.idk why you're so stunlocked by engineers without formal engineering degrees existing, there's a ton of engineers at spacex who also don't have any engineering degrees and yet other companies are chomping at the bit to steal them away.you going>NOOOOOO HE DIDN'T GO TO ENGINEER SCHOOL HE'S NOT AN ENGINEERis really adorable but it's nothing more than a final cope line of defense that a stiff breeze will blow over.
https://x.com/theinformation/status/2048054481305133140
>>16965079
>>16965068do you even know what a cycler orbit is, cum-bucket?>what do you do when you get to mars you get in your lander, do a tiny radial burn so you can then aerobrake
>>16965078there's a ton of engineers at spacex who also don't have any engineering degrees! There just are okay!Please go to the SpaceX jobs page and show us the Rocket Engineer. No engineering education or experience required. We'll wait.
>>16965083free-fucking-return
>>16965086for the cycler, not for the monkey-bucket, chode-muncher
https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2048085214568820911
>>16965087you are too retarded to have an argument withcycler = free-return trajectorynot this>cyclers spend a ton of time not actively being useful, fuckface. that's an ideal use case for high isp low acceleration propulsion systemswhat you are describing is not a cycler, fucking retarded cunt
>>16965088lmao did he use ai to write that responsewtf is with that last paragraph
>>16965090yes it is, polesmokerthat free return is awfully fucking long, you don't want to ride the cycler on that leg
>>16965088Based Jared.>o-okay, so maybe you weren't lying b-but still... LEAVE EUROPE ALONE! YOU HURTY MY FEE-FEES! waaaaaaaahhhhhhh
>>16965085>n-nowipe the tears off your keyboard, kid.
>>16965093then its not a fucking cyclerjesus christ man
>>16964548Thunderfoot has been doing it for something like 15 yearsSome people aren't real people, just parodies
>>16965079>Just +200 mil for 1 million people on MarsWhat kind of scam is this?
Also, while you're looking for those jobs, could you give us a list of those books Elon read to make him a fully qualified rocket engineer? Then we could read those books and be rocket engineers too.
>>16965099>he's still on this strawmantake your lithium, you have schizophrenic tendencies.
>>16965098scam for who? elon is not achieving that in his lifetime anyways.
>>16965098200mil shares, not cashcould correspond to something like 10% of spacex stock
>>16965099probably most aerospace engineer courseload booklists would be fine
>>16965105No, the list of the books Elon read specifically. Yore so insistent about that, you must have that list.
and here we go again, the anti musk troll asking us for evidence.
>>16965096but that's how cycler orbits work, spermdrinker
>>16965109so how about you btfo him and post somesurely you're not just living in your delusions, eds-chan?
>>16965106https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2014/07/16/how-did-elon-musk-learn-enough-about-rockets-to-run-spacex-cofounder-jim-cantrell-answers/there is no comprehensive list
https://ftp.idu.ac.id/wp-content/uploads/ebook/tdg/DESIGN%20SISTEM%20DAYA%20GERAK/Rocket%20Propulsion%20Elements.pdf
>>16965118Grok, tell us about this source.Sure! In 2001, early SpaceX paid consultant Jim Cantrell lent Elon Musk his college-level rocket propulsion textbooks to teach himself aerospace engineering, which Musk never returned. So there's no evidence Elon actually read or understand those books?Nope. His exploding Starslip is evidence he didnt.
>>16965016it depends what you mean by crisis. HLS is probably the biggest question mark over Artemis III and IV's happening on time sure, but having 2 different solutions moderates a lot of the uncertainty.
>>16965064The engineers are even more retarded than him is the only explanation
>>16965125Grok, call this faggot a faggot.Absolutely! I have personally seen him stealing jizz from a sperm bank after he gets too tired to suck any more cocks. Massive faggot. Tiny, shriveled testicles like raisins.
>>16965106no, YOU are insistent about a magic book strawman, my schizo friend.i can tell by how passive-aggressive you are that this hurts you deeply, i don't even know why it's such a hard pill for you to swallow, musk can be an evil bad guy and still an engineer, you can still seethe about him endlessly, why die on this hill?
>>16965131So, just more of your mean girl posting. Science and Math means evidence required.
what the fuck have you two been babbling about for the past 5 hours?
>>16965137>ELON LE BAD>NO ELON LE GOODrepeat ad infinitum me? oh I just insert bait here and there to keep the melty fire burning.
Elon Musk is an engineer.this appears to make some people very upset so i'm going to keep repeating this fact.>>16965134>my feelings are hurt by this reality so i'm going to call you a mean girlnice zinger oneliner, i'm not sure what it's going to do but i'm sure it's part of a brilliant plan.if you're so confident in your arguments, why do you keep attacking using a strawman strategy? you do know what a strawman is, right, i don't have to explain that to you?>science and math means evidence requiredand the evidence is that he has a degree in physics and this is a really strong foundation to build engineering skill and knowhow off of, he learned from years of experience leading a startup engineering company, and tons of experts in the industry, many of whom are antagonistic to musk and have zero monetary reasons to lie, have confirmed he is a great engineer. you are obsessed with a fake magic book strawman that you created in your head because you have no evidence to the contrary. dry your eyes.
>>16965137it's multiple people making fun of one obsessive schizo who can't help but seethe about anything and everything elon musk related, he can't stand the fact that elon musk has positive qualities, it's like telling a leftist that hitler was a good painter, their heads just explode.
>>16965141>hitler was a good paintershow one, just one good painting from that derivative hack
i rest my case.
This is the second general that I frequent where some retard is having a weekend meltdown
>>16965144he's been melting down for a while now, any objection to his perfect cartoonishly evil and incompetent version of le muskrat is met with instant spam and ad hominem attacks.
>>16965141>one obsessive schizoConflating all the people you don't like into one persona is a sign of low intelligence. And you've done it twice in one post. Impressive.
JARED WE NEED ANOTHER LAUNCH THESE NIGGAS NEED IT
We had a ban wave in the 'cord due to IPO retardation. Looks like they've moved back here. Also invites have been closed till post IPO.
>>16965145why are we giving him any attention? This is space flight general not hate a celebrity general
>>16965150really should get the janny to clean him up honestly, he refuses to participate in any actual spaceflight discussion, the only thing he talks about is elon musk.
>>16965150it's always autism. Because we're easy to annoy with extremely low quality bait. Welcome to /sfg/.
>>16965146>NOOOO I'M ACTUALLY AN ARMY OF PEOPLE!!!yeah no, there is one very obvious guy with extremely apparent mannerisms who keeps melting down, it's not multiple people.
Weneed to ban discussion of E*on M*sk in this general. Mentioning his name should entail an automatic 3 day ban.
>>16965156this but unironicallyand also ban all twitter screenshots
>>16965153>there is one very obvious guy with extremely apparent mannerismsyes>it's not multiple people.noruminate on this, eds-chan.
>>16965158Shut up! You are him.
i still cant believe that europeans regulated themselves into making rusted space stations
>>16965164you can't hecking say that
>>16965164that's easy to believe.
>>16965158>eds-channotice how he didn't like being called an EDSer so bad that he insists that it now has the opposite meaning>n-no uis not gonna claw you out of this, EDSer
>>16965156>>16965157i wish this were actually the case, twitter screenshots and musk obsession should be a bannable offense.
>>16965169>hea third time? do you have no shame? Embarrassing.
>>16965164you just wait till we introduce the reusable Ariane Next in 2055
we really are 2 weeks away tho
>>16965173>n-nolol
>>16965181>mein Fuhrer...
Grok, how much cock sucking do I do on a weekly basis?Sure! You try to get in about 20-25 cocks per week. More if possible. That is a fact.
>>169651901.5 stage concepts are interesting
>>16965193Saturn V-B could have lifted 22 tons to LEO
>>16965193if tweaked SLS is a SSTO btw
>>16965171If you don't love Elon like I do, you should be banned!Miss, an open board doesn't seem a good fit for you. Have you tried the r SpaceX boards? They have a no Musk shade rule that might be better for you.
>>16965088>>16965094If this is what working with euroids is like, we should dump all cooperation immediately, holy fuck. Imagine being european.
nuclear spacecraft are always portrayed with these glowing hot panels but shouldn't you be able to convert enough of the heat into electricity so that they are not hot enough to glow? Seems like you're just wasting power
>>16965156How about you keyword filter? Then you'll spend less time crying and mean girl posting. Win win.
>>16965206You are mentally ill. You are obsessed.I love being able to tell you this, because I know you'll be in this thread tomorrow, and then I can tell you again.You will always come back to shit your diaper in this thread and pretend it's a win.
back in my day we knew not to feed the trolls
>>16965212just stop replying to him, you will not accomplish anything
>>16965212>I LOVE being baitedcute eds-chan
>>16965215ignoring him doesn't do anything. He will happily reply to himself for hours.
>>16965218so let him. You're just contributing to the low quality of the thread. It's probably a psyop and you're falling for it
>>16965209Based retard who advocates violating the laws of thermodynamics. Make physics your bitch anon.
>>16965209Idk, I'm no engineer. They look sick though, so I like 'em.
>>16965218see >>16965146
>>16965213its ok to cuss them out a bit but yeah, generally the starvation diet is best. their mental illness craves attention
>>16965209You know how generators are just electric motors in reverse? Thermoelectric generators are Peltier coolers in reverse. They're bulky, inefficient, and worst of all, they're relatively heavy. Yes, you can extract more energy from the total heat this way but the expense and mass are far too great to make it worthwhile.
>>16965218theres an asshole just like him in another general i post in sometimes. very aggressive. good thing is nearly everyone just blacks his ID in each new iteration.
>>16965220>quality of the threadThats the point. If you let retards smear shit all over the walls and your response is 'just ignore them' then every passer-by will assume that this is the spot where it's okay to act in such a manner.
>>16965140Physics ne Engineering. You can look at the course work for Elon's degree and no engineering, except arguably the electro physics course that has application to EE. Standard lower division STEM core Math with some upper division Physics. He's no engineer. Most of the anons here who are adults have more engineering courses than Muck.
>>16965156?>SpaceX = spaceflight>Elon Musk = SpaceX>ergo, Elon Musk = spaceflight
>>16965221I didn't say that>>16965226isn't the point of nuke power to make electricity out of heat? How are we so bad at that that radiators need to be at 1000 degrees so it doesn't cook itself
>>16965230precisely
>>16965230yeah and you are helping him spread more shit. Seems like a net negative compared to what I think we should do
>>16965231engineering courses are generally easier than physics coursessometimes they are perhaps on par, depending on what kind of physics and what kind of engineering
>>16965232How many times has that Pol Pot lookin jackass ever been to space? I rest my case.
>>16965237how many astronauts are also designing and building rockets?I rest my case
>>16965233have you ever seen a nuclear reactor anon? they have huge cooling towers
sfg- schizo frenzy general
Elmrod Mollusk
>>16965233>isn't the point of nuke power to make electricity out of heat? How are we so bad at that that radiators need to be at 1000 degrees so it doesn't cook itselfThe thermodynamics of heat engines are a bitch. 20% of the heat to electricity is easy. 40% is viable. 60% is high effort and needs a lot of machinery to capture, and the remaining 40% is literally impossible to utilize.
remember spaceflight?progress launch in 2 bongs
Edsel Musk
KaynoukyJust learned from the FY2027 PBR that Blue Origin expects to complete a structural test article of Blue Moon Mk2 sometime next yearNot a flight article yet, but better than anything we've heard about Moon Ship.
Since none of us have been to space, are we just larping as spaceflight fans here?
>>16965255damn, they are really landing on the moon before spacex, aren't they
>>16965258Yep. But don't tell the cry baby who pretends anyone who doesn't worship Musk is the same guy.
>>16965206>if you don't lovestrawman>you should be bannedyes, because you're hysterical.
I should be banned so I don't have to see these two kids fighting
>>16965216>i am a mentally ill loser who suffers from parental neglect and pretends to be retarded on the internet for negative attention and call it "baiting"you're not "baiting" anyone, you're just being bullied (rightfully so). whether or not you're being genuine is irrelevant, you're not "getting" anyone with this, you're just humiliating yourself, you'll turn off your computer and be all alone again, none of these cries for attention will ever make you whole.
>>16965213pretending to be retarded is not "trolling", it's pretending to be retarded, this was already established like 20 years ago.the kinds of extremely lonely people that do this call it "trolling" or "baiting" because it sounds less pathetic than asking for attention because you don't have any friends and family bond with.
Okay but like actually launch the fucking rocket already
With Blue Glenn benched indefinitely after the recent mishap, SpaceX already 10 (ten) years behind schedule, it's only Virgin Galactic that can save the spaceflight
spaceflight?
>>16965235if we had actual moderation this wouldn't be an issue, this is the kind of person that is just genetically unfit to live in a world with internet, but in lieu of eugenics, the next best thing is to just have a janny get rid of him, but jannies are lazy and don't earn their pay.
>16965271>SpaceX already 10 (ten) years behind scheduleOh yeah, it's this one same EDS fag
>>16965276strawman, that's not why you should be banned.
>>16965278this is pure gibberish.
>>16965276>weyou are not "we", you're the guy we're talking about.>constantly slandering elonyou're not "slandering elon", you're just not talking about spaceflight at all, EDSer.why are strawmen the only thing you know how to do? there's other forms of dishonest conversational tactics you know.
soyuz 5 demo flight in 13 hr
Anyone else not able to play the videos on SpaceX's site? I have to download them individually to watch them.Also pretty gay that a lot of these videos are listed as 1080p, yet when you download them, the only option is 720p.
>>16965284i tried to play it but it didn't work for some reason
>>16965285thanks for the info. NOT
>>16965284works on Safari
>>16965288I guess it is just my browser. Just tried it on Edge, and it works perfectly.
>>16965283why was it so small on september 30th?
>>16965284>>16965288>>16965290Why are you like this?
>>16965301the bulb was low that day
>>16965301smudge on the dome. cleaning crew got to it later
progress in 2 minuteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FJUz-54AX0
>>16965330normiya, normali
/sfg/ is... fecund
>>16965340*feculent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsQdK7gC6FM
>>16964776honestly when I see someone with that kind of hair I doubt a lot about those engines
>>16965301Aphelion, my nigga
https://x.com/Space_Station/status/2048177137014739353>A Progress 95 cargo spacecraft lifted off at 6:21 p.m. EDT on Saturday, April 25, from Kazakhstan carrying food, fuel, and supplies to resupply the Expedition 74 crew aboard the orbital outpost on Monday.
Can't wait for a night launch of Starship
>>16965364
>>16965367
arent srbs a bit dangerous? having the fuel in them at all times seems like it would be hazardous if you enjoy smoking
>>16965364I can’t wait for a launch, period
>>16965369Yes, ground handling difficulties are one of the bigger problems with solid fuel rockets.
>>16965000nice trips
>>16965368kino
Isaacman rekting cunts
>>16965380>light modeif you're going to screenshot an x post do it right
>>16965380read the thread
>>16964234Okay nevermind people are still crazy…
>>16964261Maybe stems from bad relationship with his ultrabased dad growing up
wait do you goys really think the richest man in the world is genuine about his beliefs?
>>16965389Yes but the things he says is contrived and serves an ultimate goal>erm xAI will bring about hyperabundance and my robots and AI can give you universal high income and star trek post scarcity!That’s code for “invest in me”. At least, for better or worse, he has found a way to intimately tie Starship and space-based computing & manufacturing into it
>16965389Oh great, the troll is back
>>16965391i'm surprised no one has learned their lesson after 2000 years of it happening
>>16965085>Local retard doesn't know that SpaceX poaches people as early as possible Read the Vance biography. Gwynne talks about how they were ripping and running with people still in college and never graduated because they wanted to hire them now, not in 2, 3, or 4 years. They did this because they wanted young people who were smart enough, ambitious enough, and could learn what they needed to learn on the job while being willing (and able) to work stupid hours and accept lower wages in exchange for stock options. SpaceX paying lower and requiring stupid hours still persists to this day, and it's also why their average employee age is like 15 years younger compared to everyone else from a survey I once read that was related to pay.
>>16965394It goes all the way back to the garden of eden and the serpent, really.Modern examples include SNC promising that they will have a working, flying, affordable spaceplane for commercial cargo
the inside of starbase is beautiful.
>>16965422I'm glad you think so - Elon Musk
the inside of elon musk is beautiful
>>16965432I'm glad you think so - Elon Musk
beauty is in the eye of the Elon Musk
FH on Monday!
we need to be thinking this far ahead
>>16965474>>16965474and where will we get the water from?
>>16965475comets
>>16965475I bet there's a bunch already there but its being lazy and frozen under all the dirt.
>>16965474just do this
>>16965478based noah
>>16964524Yeah, this is definitely IPO coded.
Gemini image creator.
>>16964524Have we ever heard him speak before?
>>16965495looks like shit, ignored.
>>16965478we need to bring dutchmen to mars
>>16965495please don't post garbage
>>16965475Mars, or the belt
>>16965474>terraforming isn't a question of ifit very much is. Mankind will perish in this gravity well if browns take over before we evacuate to space.
>>16965495>Orbital>Starship
>>16965511shut up EDS man! if the starship spent all it's fuel and you also went outside and farted prograde you would be in orbit. Technically.
>>16965513>if starship spent all it's fuelsee that's the thing though, it doesn't spend all it's fuel, that's a lie. it can reach orbit with a payload.
>>16965514>it can reach orbit with a payload.the payload:
When are they going to shoot bananas out of the pez dispenser?
>he doesn't know about the chiquita starship
I love bananas
Give banana me give eat banana me eat banana give me eat banana give me you.
omg he's /sfg/, smarter but still /sfg/
>>16965541Can I put /sfg/ on my Linkedin?
>>16965541who is this and why should i care?
>>16965544look at the file name. it's some third worlder trying to impress us
>>16965541>He got mad because Trump cut the budget for NASA science missions.
>>16965544Its the person that attacked the event with trump like 8h ago
>>16965541https://x.com/AsraNomani/status/2048352789076549737?s=20
>>16965209This isn't a nuclear spacecraftIt's an antimatter-lasersail one
>>16965555love you sugar plum
>>16965543I won't hire anyone without it.
Comprehensive on how the STS came to be https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/sp-4221.pdf
>>16965560so you're telling me the entire space industry of the ussr and usa at the time couldn't think of: clustering nine engines on a rocket booster? instead they went down this crazy rabbit hole?
>>16965569nobody sane wanted to cluster 9 engines on anything after the N1 debacleit took two or three generations for the lesson to be forgotten
>>16965569NINE engines? imagine the plumbing! no way.
>>16965578shame that the windows are useless if it's docked like that.
I REALLY hope the swift rescue mission works.
>>16965579futebol nao espaco!
>>16965578what is stored in the balls?
>>16965595the peeople
>>16965578I feel like they should use Vast's larger docking standard for these, you could move much bigger stuff into the station.
>>16965569thats a stoopid idea desu
>>16965578americans will never like that
space station watch repair
trying to sell humans in space as 'for science' is a doomed project because it's completely false. If the objective of Artemis 2 was to take gopro photographs of the far side of the moon we could have sent a robotic misison a decade ago for 1 100th the cost
>>16965578Crew are stored in the balls
>>16965609muh moonjoy
>>16965609how to test manned spacecraft without manned spacecraft flights? this is the big conundrum we all face.
>>16965609unfortunately selling humans in space for “manifest destiny” doesn’t fly in the big ‘26
>>16965606oops, lost a screw
>>16965578
>>16965613but if your objective is science, why man the spacecraft at all? During Apollo there was utility to sending humans because of how remarkabily primitive computers were at the time. But even still the utility was not tremendous. Space stations never took off as a thing because unmanned systems even in those years could do comms and reconnaisance better.Nowadays it's black and white. Let's teleport to 2032 when Starship HLS lands humans on the moon. tally the total cost of the Artemis program to that point. Imagine the insane robotic missions that could have been done for those billions. The only reason to have humans in space is manifest destiny. Even putitng humans in space to simplytest them as lab rats makes little sense if you don't plan on eventually being in space permenantly.
>>16965622the science done by the apollo missions was in fact very comprehensivewhat you say is not obvious and the analogy with the ISS doesn't really work for many reasonsthe ISS is just a shitshow, most of the time is used for keeping the thing running instead of science and for some reason they don't do many things that should be obvious to do for some reason, almost like its not even the point, they don't give a shit
>>16965622>why man the spacecraft at all?because going to new places to do stuff is what people do. always had been. getting people safely there and back IS the science.> there was utility to sending humans because of how remarkabily primitive computers were at the time.that had nothing to do with it at all. >But even still the utility was not tremendoustotally wrong. the amount of stuff the guys did there and brought back was incredible. nothing robotic has come close (by a very very long way) and likely wont for a long time. just look at the core samples they drilled by hand.> if you don't plan on eventually being in space permenantly.or much longer term than we currently have, yes of course. we still dont even know how a human body will react to long term living in mars gravity, amongst many other such unknowns.
>>16965627>just look at the core samples they drilled by handYou really telling me a lander couldnt drill a core sample and then return to Earth?Robotic missions havent come close because there has never been a robotic mission with even a tenth of the apollo program funding.
>Affiliation: Lockheed Martin Space Systems Co. (Denver, Colorado)>Year: 2014>Document: Co-author on a NASA technical report / conference paper titled:"Testing Orion’s Fairing Separation System">Publication Date: May 1, 2014 (listed on NASA’s Technical Reports Server – NTRS)Interesting...
>>16965569engine reliability has come a long way, sensors and automated flow control/shutdown sequences makes running a lot of engines together a lot safer now than it was in the 60's.
>>16965609no, it's to test a mission profile that's going to have humans on it in the future as well, dingus.
>>16965636>You really telling me a lander couldnt drill a core sample and then return to Earth?no robotic lander has ever done anything like that nor has more than a few tens of grams of material ever been returned. Seriously, go look how tricky it was for the guys to drill those cores out to that depth. the difference in capability between a robot probe and a guy there working and adapting is absolutely massive. and they had 6 landings for the cost of apollo too.>there has never been a robotic mission with even a tenth of the apollo program funding.because its not as interesting a thing to do for many many reasons. they cant even get funding for a $4-7BN mars return probe these days, but look at the money being put into manned programs. theres a reason for that.
jelly locomotion probe for watersea moons
>>16965622The objective isn’t science. Science will be done along the way but that is not the ultimate purpose.
SpaceX is building Golden Dome's missiles. Other companies part of the project include Anduril and your typical defense contractors.https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/04/this-is-whos-developing-golden-domes-orbital-interceptors-if-theyre-ever-built/
>>16965643>because its not as interesting a thing to do for many many reasonsyeah I'm not arguing with you, I think we should be in space. It's just that any mission using humans is much more expensive and difficult to pull off. Mars sample return for example is way cheaper than actually doing the Ares manned Mars landings and returning samples that way. I do agree with manned space being heavily funded, my point is that larping that manned spaceflight is crucial for scientific investigation of other planets is a weak foundation because it's fundamentally not crucial. It paves the way for people who don't share our dreams to defund manned spaceflight, as happened under Obamna. Shuttle tried to sell itself as for 'the science' which is why the deadly carnival ride of sending 7 people up at a time to do some mundane satelite launch and basic makework experiments was seen as so absurd by many. Manned spaceflight needs to be sold as what it is, our first steps in conquest of the universe.
>>16965649>It's just that any mission using humans is much more expensive and difficult to pull off.of course. but what you get for the money is fr far greater. theres really no comparison between landing a probe (which is still cool) and having your people set foot there and get to work. >Manned spaceflight needs to be sold as what it is, our first steps in conquest of the universe.its that too. i dont see anyone denying it at all. who do you see trying to sell manned spaceflight as purely about rock samples etc? its not. But guys on the ground do the science way better than any probe.
>>16965644jelly locomotion probe for my penis.
mommy said its my turn for this hemisphere to see saturn
>>16965656no one lives there
