No.
>>16969775fuck you
>>16969774>could a rendezvous have been attempted?absolutelyif there was concern about not surviving reentry, they absolutely should have sent a second shuttle up, even if there was risk of the same thing happening. the risk was low enough that hundreds of launches went off without catastrophic failure (although not without damage).instead we let the crew die in one of the most spectacular ways ever experienced.
>>16969792>die in one of the most spectacular ways ever experiencedI want a no-casket funeral so bad bros
>>16969774If I were there I could have caught them.
>>16969808>t.
>>16969792>they absolutely should have sent a second shuttle upan unplanned shuttle mission isn't something they could put together and launch in any reasonable amount of time.
>>16969831not having a contingency for this when the whole point of the shuttle program was fast turn around is poor planningmoreover, there was an upcoming shuttle missionnasa just shrugged their shoulders
Linda Ham killed seven astronauts and got promoted as punishment.
>>16969840This bitch?
>>16969774possibly. footage of the launch showed debris falling from the craft but there was no way to know how bad the damage was or where the debris actually came from. I forget why, but they couldnt do a physical inspection to see first hand either. They took a gamble. They could have sent another craft up to help them inspect it or bring them back but there were no commercial craft available like space x etc like there is today so it would have been a lot of red tape and very costly to do, They rolled the dice and lost
this is a really good documentary on it for anyone interestedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdezNT7TgI0good yt channel in general
Yes, if there had been a spare shuttle ready, or if in-orbit repair had been conducted, either because they carried spare tiles on board, or after a resupply mission delivered them and life support and materials for an extended stay. But apparenly it was too much to ask from NASA's risk management and no commercial space company had a launcher ready for sending supplies.
>>16969982>not available in your countryWhat is there to be hidden from international scrutiny? Are the lies in the video just burger-tier?
>>16969977She looks like a Greek statue in profile with a wig on top.
>>16969774>Could they have been saved?It was the constructive "everything has to work perfect" madness that killed 14 astronauts. With an separable command module able for reentry and land they all will be alive. But space shuttle designers stand on the shoulders of giants, captured by operation paperclip and were only able to do the one shot thing after they were gone.
>>16969774>Could they have been saved?yes it the ET had continued to be painted (but muh payload margins! the top half of the ET, at least just the shuttle facing half of it, could have continued to be coated with minimal loss of payload)
>>16970128have you never heard of a web proxy?
>>16969774>Could they have been saved?Yes, but NASA refused to put a repair kit on board until after this. Also, just after launch NASA engineers discovered the impact vid and asked CIA to use a satellite to take pics of the shuttle in orbit, but some woman manager at NASA directed CIA not to. With the imagery they could have evaluated the damage, had an astronaut do a space walk for more inspection and photos, and at least tried to alter the rentry to favor the non damaged wing. Why not at least try everything you can instead of just ignoring it and keeping the commander and pilot in the dark.
>>16969840She wasn't promoted, though it is fucked up that she's still working at NASA today, in some obscure role
>>16969980>To assess the possible damage to Columbia's wing, members of the Debris Assessment Team made multiple requests to get imagery of the orbiter from the Department of Defense (DoD). Imagery requests were channeled through both the DoD Manned Space Flight Support Office and the Johnson Space Center Engineering Directorate.[6]:150–151 Hale coordinated the request through a DoD representative at KSC. The request was relayed to the US Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM), which began identifying imaging assets that could observe the orbiter. The imagery request was soon rescinded by NASA Mission Management Team Chair Linda Ham after she investigated the origin of it.
>>16970741But why?
>>16969775This. They didn't have fuel to get to the ISS and they didn't have supplies to survive in orbit to wait for any sort of rescue. There's nothing to say that a rushed launch wouldn't have put up an orbiter in even worse shape.
>>16969831>an unplanned shuttle mission isn't something NASA in the 80s could put together and launch in any reasonable amount of time.Fixed that for you.Back in the day when real men staffed the mission, they were able to bring Apollo 13 back, bringing all the astronauts back alive.>>16970470>she's still working at NASA todayThat is part of the fall of NASA.
>>16973171Girlboss flex
>>16973658Several of the books I read on organizational theory refers to the Challenger Disaster. Part of the "moral" is that management never listens to experts, even when billions of tax payers properties and many human lives are at stake. Strangely, these books never mention her name or even how she escaped justice.
>>16969774They survived.>A group of Caenorhabditis elegans worms, enclosed in aluminum canisters, survived reentry and impact with the ground and were recovered weeks after the disaster.
>>16973687>Caenorhabditis elegans wormsA superior life form, as far as being a space-faring species is concerned. Mistakes were made, but you can't say that doomed mission didn't establish some useful scientific facts.
>>16973687I cant even imagine what those people experienced. Die by low pressure air torching you at 25 mach?
>>16973724It would have been extremely painful
>>16969774Probably, with even just the right type of repair kit. I've fabricated basalt fiber silicon carbide laminated composites before and it is not overly challenging; many similar formulations of fiber-ceramic multi-material systems can withstand sufficient heat.
>>16973896That is a big hole in the wing
>>16973907For them
I know exactly which youtube video sparked this thread and that just adds another item to my list of reasons to hate this place
>>16969774Well, yeah, actually, they just shouldn’t have launched.
>>16970470Org chart promotion but to a place where she couldn't fuck things up.>>16973667The college she graduated from makes a big deal out her being one of their most successful female alumni, holding her up as a blueprint for what women in STEM can accomplish. Of course in their gushing profiles of her, they leave out her part in the Columbia disaster. >>16973647It's quite possible there was no solution once the debris hit the wing but the behind the scenes infighting between management and engineering guaranteed that even if there were a solution, it wouldn't be found and implemented. It was bad for morale that the agency didn't go into an all-hands-on-deck mode doing everything possible to save the crew and it set a bad precedent for safety operations going forward.
>>16969775yes
