if quantum says particles are actually waves which are actually fields (which are actually strings) then what the FUCK does spin even mean in this context?
>>16970521"Spin" is a label for a property that conforms to the Pauli exclusion principle.
>>16970522that doesn't answer my question even slightly
>>16970521Nothing means anything in modern physics. Physical "reality" has degenerated into a set of nominal entities that humans are forced to use to map out some mathematical structure that constrains possible observations.
>>16970523That's because you don't understand what you asked.
>>16970521Imagine the electron as a spinning ball, except it's not a ball and it's not spinning and you have to rotate it by 720° to get it back to its original state. Hope that helps
>>16970521You guys are literally just copying what's currently trending on X
>>16970521Spin determines how things are able to exist as groups in fields. Half integer spin means they have to find separate states. Whole integer means they can overlap their states. So it does determine Pauli exclusion like other anon said.
>>16970521>>16970523the matrix related to spin just looks the same as the matrix related to angular momentum, so the scientists pretend the spin is an angular momentum when it isn't
>>16970589But the total angular momentum is only conserved if you count spin as an angular momentum
Why do schizos and normies believe they understand quantum mechanics.90% of QM discussions are by people who have no clue what theyre saying lol.
>>16970521How do quarks have color if they're smaller than visible light waves?
https://physics.mcmaster.ca/phys3mm3/notes/whatisspin.pdf
>>16970628They do not have color that was just an awful name. Lol.
>>16970646Your answer to my stupid question is the same as the answer to OP's stupid question.
>>16970521read a book idiot
>>16970674get a brian moran
>>16970628wtf, quarks are mitotic?!
>>16970521>which are actually stringsallegedly
>>16970646the entire theory is awful, it's made to obfuscate physics
>>16970521"Spin" is just an inherent property of matter that happens to have the same physical dimensions as angular momentum, hence the name
>>16970803>*property of particles
classical particle: x(t)quantum: f(x,t) -- adding more shit to describe a particle to explain thingsspin: (f(x,t), s) -- or something like that, adding more shit to explain new experimental observations
>>16970521Waves have momentum. From momentum, you can calculate angular momentum. From angular momentum, some of it is spin
>>16970694I have a brain. You have shit flowing out your ears, shitbrain. Read a book nigger. Or just kil yourself
Representation of the Poincare group.
>>16970521People need to stop obsessing over the term spin. It's just a word they used to describe something they observed. Stop trying to apply macroscopic intuition to QM
>>16970521All jargon is for the purpose of gate keeping - to keep you retards out and to immediately identify quacks.
>>16970521it's all included in the field theoryif you want to understand then read some textbooksotherwise you are just bullshitting yourself
>>16970856you lost tranny
>>16970694bodied that freak
>>16970531>rotate it by 720° to get it back to its original stateWouldn't that be a spin 2 particle?
>>16971028No, it's a consequence of the spin 1/2 states being separated by 180° in real space and 90° in the state space. So if you rotate real space by 2pi the state space only rotates by pi. But multiplying a phase on the state vector doesn't change its physical effect except when it does in interference experiments.In other words I don't know what's going on
>>16970983How did i lose?By reading a book? No, i did not.If you want to answer these shit questions, just read a book nigger. Better, go to school oh i forgot, you are retarded and cant go to school except retard school. Hows retard school going, retard?
>>16970531Because it rotates into and out of the complex plane in a phase shift, where one rotation is only 50% of one rotation in the real plane, so it requires two rotations to make two half rotations in the real plane and two half rotations in the complex plane, which is the basis by which it's justified to invoke "imaginary time" used in wick rotation dynamics.
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>>16971131Non-commutativity is the hallmark of a quaternionic rotation, which is complex plane rotation, which, again, invokes imaginary wick rotations, as denoted in >>16971099You can't have "convenient math tricks" divorced from ontology and still call it physics.
>>16970521But your image says what spin is, the "handedness" of a particle in a system
>>16971087ywnbaw bro
>>16970521>what the FUCK does spin even mean in this context?Stop thinking about properties of "objects"; it's all about symmetries of the wave function, all quantum numbers correspond to some. Spin characterizes the rotational symmetry.
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