Who's smarter with same years of experience? Who can solve harder problems?
>>16972138Mathematician.
>>16972138There's a lotta overlap. There's math guys with a computing+programming background, then there's CS guys who have a math background in relation to their CS degree. Overall a CS guy with any math or stat background will always have a step or two over the pure CS guy in theory.
>>16972138Mathematician.Good programmers are just good mathematicians that have a tool.Bad programmers are just regular people that have a tool.One of these people will wield that tool more effectively. Spoiler: It's AI.
>>16972165>Good programmers are just good mathematicians that have a tool.Pretty reductionist but OP only mentioned two fields in the post. In reality programming requires skills from multiple fields.
>>16972138what IDE is that?
og nvm visual studio. I havent used visual studio in 20 years and it looked way different back then. That looks like netbeans kinda
>>16972165>Good programmers are just good mathematicians that have a tool.I hate this board so goddamn much.
>>16972166>In reality programming requires skills from multiple fields.Such as?
>>16972192Found the bad programmer.
>shader programming>microslop fisher price IDEthe duality of man
>>16972165>Good programmers are just good mathematicians that have a tool.Obviously delusional and never had to deal with the kind of slop that comes out when mathematicians try to code.
>>16972138Let's be real: the average programmer is a subwit who pumps out CRUD and does third party library plumbing, meanwhile the average mathematician is a midwit submerged in some irrelevant, specialized autism. In terms of raw brain power, mathematicians win, but not to any impressive effect.Still, programming has more potential to reflect high general intelligence just because it lets you express and solve problems of any kind. It distills structured thinking and problem solving into its pure essence. An intelligent programmer is a polymath of sorts.
>>16972138The intelligence of programmers in general has a much lower median because it's dragged down by the bulk of programmers being code monkeys. I think if we filter the drek, we're still left with a complicated comparison. Most of the remaining programmers are autistic engineers and specialize in pragmatic problem solving. Mathematicians will likely have a greater median ability to handle solving abstract and novel problems. Both of these can be equally hard. It's also still not the full picture.There's a pretty strong middle ground between the two, where many mathematicians are also programmers, and many programmers have a background in mathematics.I think there's a larger volume of generally brilliant people who are programmers, but many of them don't work within standard mathematical frameworks and don't seem to care for them. I've seen an undereducated programmer reinvent integration from first principles in their own terms over the course of an afternoon. I've seen a brilliant programmer solve what was effectively an undecidable third order logic problem.Conversely, the closer a mathematician is to the top of their field, for some inscrutable reason they seem to trend towards be less capable of programming overall. Even stranger, there are whole classes of programmer whose abstract work is fundamentally brilliant, but when it comes to actual programming they're basically incompetent.
>>16972165>hurr durr muh aiKILL YOURSELF FAGGOT
>>16972189Visual Studio Code is different from Visual Studio
Visual Studio gets a complete overhaul and new branding every few years, Visual Studio Code doesn't
>>16972601vscode is also way nicer to use.
>>16972603vscode spies on you and intercepts your commits to add its shitty AI as a co-author regardless of whether you used AI or not and regardless of whether you toggle this off
>>16972138Programmers are the most retarded people in all of STEM, By Far.
>>16972138Applied math cs degree because that leads into getting paid 150k every time you have an idea
>>16972545I bet if you asked AI, you could have found a more intelligent way to try and insult me.
>>16972676Why are you so desperate for people to liquidate their skills and become permanent customers?
>>16972607you're thinking visual studio
>>16972817Why are you so illiterate that you took a statement about AI as prescriptive instead of descriptive?
>>16972827You are a loser shill. If your technology was worth a damn it wouldn't need constant astroturfing and hostile takeovers.
>>16972828Also constant money transfusions from the gov't to stay afloat....don't forget that...
>>16972828Why are you resorting to name calling and deflection if the technology wasn't worth a damn in the first place? If it wasn't worth anything, it would be discussed with the same emotional enthusiasm as steam engines, wouldn't it?
Math majors have to pass Real Analysis. I saw one guy doing Real Analysis homework, he was staring at a piece of paper with 3 symbols on it for like 10 minutes. If you can pass that class you are pretty smart.
