Why does screaming a little make frontal lobes shrink so much?
That's a lot more than screaming.
>>16972798I don't know
shout out to my piece of shit parents ruining my entire life before I even made it to first grade
>>16972806It's called>tough loveand it's the only way to raise real men, because men aren't supposed to have long-term planning and emotional self-regulation capabilities.
>>16972826I don't think you can read.
>>16972822Sorry to hear. Here's a neat flower I spotted a while ago.
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>>16972849>>16972850thanks anon I will remember this flower right before I blow my brains out because Im too mentally ill to make something out of my life or attract a mate.
>>16972822>>16972873Have you tried unshrinking/ growing your frontal lobe a bit?
thanks for the screenshot of viral facebook content via the pakistani xlop accounts
>>16972873Cool, before you do that though, check out this sick ass rock.
>>16972873Not the response I was hoping for, unfortunately. Flowers are beautiful little things in this fucked up world. They ultimately are short lived and die, but they can be appreciated in the moment and a nice flower makes me happy. Feelings follow focus.
>>16972909not gonna help him, >check out this heggin chungus rock amirite??
>>16972822keep fighting bro there's a lot more of us out there
>>16972873>>16972909He should bird watch no cap or whatever people say.
>>16973249>>16973255thanks, everything will be fine once I'm allowed to do drugs again.
>>16972798>unstable familiesSo, you haven't proven causation, just that people who are related to individuals with poor impulse control tend to have lower brain volume.This reminds me of that "poverty causes brains to shrink" pop-sci article.
>>16973931>So, you haven't proven causation, Not op but causation was already proven years ago. Cortisol hormones released during stress while a child's brain is developing wires the brain to react quicker to threats. So their brain is in a highten state of fight or flight even during periods of non-hostility.
>>16973974>Cortisol hormones released during stress while a child's brain is developing wires the brain to react quicker to threats.This doesn't prove environmental causation (stress doesn't have to be environmental, cortisol production is heritable during childhood, and cortisol metabolism is heritable across ages), let alone screaming-causationAlso, you haven't substantiated the hidden premise that cortisol via screaming causes the brain to shrink. Could you explain how you know that this happens?
>>16972822"Visit" your local synagogue on the way out bro.
>>16973981>Also, you haven't substantiated the hidden premise that cortisol via screaming causes the brain to shrink.>Could you explain how you know that this happens?Cortisol is a stress hormone, stress hormones induce fight or flight responses when exposed to hostile environments. Large bodies independent of the observing child causing loud noises that a child's ears can pick up, trigger fight or flight responses due to the unsureness of the threat level associated with the loud noises. Fight or flight responses shifts the brain to conserve energy (Basal metabolic rate) in order to prepare for immediate threats, conserving energy (BMR) means finding parts of the human body that is resource intensive and winding it down. The human brain is one of the most resource intensive tools the human body has next to the immune system. Because the immune system is already priortized for survival, energy conservation here runs counter to life preservation, therefore the brain is next expensive thing on the list to cut energy consumption. This energy conservation response means reduce neurological maintenance that also aids in growth. This reduction in neurological maintenance leads to shrinkage in the brain like grey matter which would be associated with said growth.Again this information is years old. It's already been studied for not only children but also adults who serve in the military. This info is also known due to trying to figure out energy needs of various human organs and systems.
why is it allowed to post xitter screencaps instead of links to a paper on this shithole board
>>16973981>stress isn't environmental because the parents are not an environment, which means it's heritable during childhood
>>16972798It's pretty funny watching all the braindamaged incels ITT lashing out against the idea that their lack of behavioral regulation was caused by their single moms screaming at them constantly.
>>16974075Excuse (You), I'm a braindamaged anon who's arguing for the result and well aware that my issues with somatic and social executive function are deeply rooted in my schizophrenic mother fracturing my zygomatic and frontal bone when I wasn't even in school yet and not having ever received corrective surgery, thank you very much.
>>16974091>everything everyone says refers to me specifically>even though it doesn't apply to me by my own accountI hope your frontal lobes get well soon, braindamageanon.
>>16974092I am trying, thank you.Also, obviously the self-referential irony is also funny, which is probably part of the problem of frontal lobe damage.
>>16973991>Cortisol is a stress hormone, stress hormones induce fight or flight responses when exposed to hostile environments.Cortisol down-regulates the hypothalamus and pituitary gland (corticotrophin-releasing hormone and adrenocorticotropic hormone), which decreases stress response (HPA activation).>conserving energy (BMR) means finding parts of the human body that is resource intensive and winding it down.>The human brain is one of the most resource intensive tools the human body has next to the immune system. Because the immune system is already priortized for survival, energy conservation here runs counter to life preservation, therefore the brain is next expensive thing on the list to cut energy consumption.Why wouldn't energy just be conserved from some other organ (especially since the immune system can be "chosen" but isn't)?You still haven't shown that cortisol causes the brain to shrink.>Again this information is years oldDo you have a study that shows causation (cortisol shrinking the brain rather than people with high cortisol having small brains)?
>>16974164>Cortisol down-regulates the hypothalamus and pituitary gland (corticotrophin-releasing hormone and adrenocorticotropic hormone), which decreases stress response (HPA activation).Only when it's done in short bursts. Prolonged cortisol secretion eventually cause dysregulation to the HPA axis because the body is not configured to handle constant stress of fight or flight situations.>Why wouldn't energy just be conserved from some other organ (especially since the immune system can be "chosen" but isn't)?What other organ do you think is available to conserve energy from? The Heart? The Lungs? The Stomach? The Pharynx + Larynx (breating, eating, communication)? I hope you aren't seriously thinking about the liver or kidneys since that's what regulates your metabolism and blood pressure. There isn't a lot of wiggle room here.>You still haven't shown that cortisol causes the brain to shrink.I did, what exactly do you think is going to happen to the brain if growth and maintainence of neuroactivity slows in an attempt to conserve energy?>Do you have a study that shows causation (cortisol shrinking the brain rather than people with high cortisol having small brains)?The study below details prolonged cortisol physiological effects on the brain including shrinking, altered chemistry, neurotransmitter dysregulation, neurotoxicity levels, and hormone receptor genes.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12647353/(The cortisol axis and psychiatric disorders: an updated review)The study is too long to green text properly.
>>16972798the convergence (if it exists, it is a fucking twitter screenshot) likely stems from the damage active, sustained stress does to a brain.
>>16972798the lobe gets discouraged
>>16974075So I guess the part where they talk about post war PTSD having the same symptoms doesn't exist them?
>>16974620>Only when it's done in short bursts. Prolonged cortisol secretion eventually cause dysregulation to the HPA axis because the body is not configured to handle constant stress of fight or flight situations.Okay, but cortisol still doesn't increase HPA activation.>What other organ do you think is available to conserve energy from?The skin and possibly genitalia.>The cortisol axis and psychiatric disorders: an updated reviewThis is a review paper. It cites 195 papers with their own results. Could you just cite the papers/their results that show causal effects (cortisol shrinking the brain)?
>>16972909>rock has no frontal lobe>this rock must have screamed more than any human ever hassad
>>16972798they're probably knocking the kid around
