>>16972945
>conservatives break things they don't understand
>claim it progress
Why do we tolerate mentally ill people who refuse to let themselves get diagnosed? Why do we let them dismantle the health care system so they can make sure nobody is competent in diagnosing them?

>>16973084
>we let
>we tolerate
>we'll heckin' diagnose you
You don't do anything because you're nobody. For fuck's sake, can't they start putting these raging psychotics in labor camps already?

>respond to rising rates of mental illness and suicide by pushing back against the one thing that's letting a lot of people function
>go on tv and senilely ramble about how people just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and eat more fruit or whatever
>rates of mental illness and suicide continue to skyrocket
really wish boomers would just fuck off and retire or die already.

>>16973187
>the one thing that's letting a lot of people function
Proof?

If people, especially adults, want to be compliant sheep let them take ssris. The real problem is prescribing little Jimmy legal speed so he can get his test scores up. And every over protective mother now has all her children diagnosed retarded taking legal speed because little Timmy's mom did and Jimmy needs to compete. The only way to shut down the overdiagnoses arms race is government intervention and also lets stop giving retards extra test time now that affirmative action is dead.

>>16973340
>also lets stop giving retards extra test time now that affirmative action is dead.

Test accommodations are such a scam, giving a select few extra time defeats the whole point of standardized testing. Literally everyone would do better on a test with extra time.

>>16972945
I try not to interact with psued /pol/ threads, but I will briefly entertain this one. The reason why some studies say that SSRIs are ineffective is for a few reasons. The main one being that they tend to measure the patient after just two months. After two months, the patient (assuming they are taking their meds every day) is finally reaching a therapeuic level of the LOWEST dose of SSRI that they are on. Almost all SSRIs have 4 dose levels. Lexapro is 5mg (up to 20mg), Prozac is 20mg (up to 80), Zoloft is 50mg (up to 200mg), and so on. The lowest dose isn't going to work for most people with severe depression/anxiety/ptsd/ocd, etc. They should be looking at the patient one year of being on an SSRI, after the shrink has adjusted the dosage properly. Another reason why these studies are bullcrap is that a depressed person typically does not initially notice when they are getting better, only people around them start to notice the difference, especially after only two months on the lowest dose. It takes a while to realize you are not depressed anymore. Here are some studies that prove the efficacy of SSRIs for different psych disorders.

SSRIs help with panic attacks.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8767458/

SSRIs help with acute suicidality:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165178124002026

SSRIs help with PTSD.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35234292/

SSRIs help with depression just as much as triciclics, with less side effects and better tolerability:
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD001851/abstract

SSRIs and SNRIs for anxiety:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/da.22854

Lastly, why do you think that SSRIs help with OCD? OCD is basically just an extreme version of anxiety. If your depression or anxiety is circumstancial, then maybe SSRIs won't help. Otherwise, stop bringing your politics into medicine please.

>>16972945
Racoon penises and beached whale heads though? Now that's the kind of shit that *really* helps with mood disorders!

Boomers think every mental health issue can be solved by smacking your kids around.

>>16972945
How about you stop prescribing them to civilisation destroying women without ruining it for everyone else
Can you not be cucks for once

>>16973370
>Another reason why these studies are bullcrap is that a depressed person typically does not initially notice when they are getting better, only people around them start to notice the difference, especially after only two months on the lowest dose. It takes a while to realize you are not depressed anymore. Here are some studies that prove the efficacy of SSRIs for different psych disorders.
what????

>>16973443
it's a well-documented effect, which is why antidepressants that work too well are correlated with increased suicidality:
the patient is getting less depressed physiologically, i.e. has better access to planning and task-initiation, but hasn't cognitively realized this and thus uses these capabilities to follow their self-image of "depressed loser who can't do anything right" and does a hecking an hero

>>16973444
majority of suicides/suicide attempts are impulse decisions and not planned out in advance tho

>>16973452
that is why the black box warning for suicidality with SSRIs is for 24 year olds and younger. Because of how impulsive they are when combined with the first few weeks of being on an antidepressent improving their energy and motivation but not sadness. It is because their frontal lobe hasn't fully developed. Increased suicidality with SSRIs is not seen with 25 year olds and older.

>>16973443
>>16973444
>>16973453
I see your logic anon, and don't take this the wrong way, but I think you were explaining it pretty stupidly.

>>16973455
I have been drinking quite a bit of beer tonight, so that might be why.

>>16973455
that's because you don't admit that
>tie a noose, hoist it, step on a stool, slip your head through the noose, kick away the stool
is already a highly inolved plan of exactly the complexity that isn't implementable in depression

>>16973455
also >>16973457 >>16973444 are me,
while >>16973443 >>16973455 >>16973456 are a different anon

>>16973458
also also, in the interest of clarity
>admit
here is not
>confess
but
>allow for consideration
and not intended as a personal attack, but contextual correction
sorry if anything sounded harsh or confrontational

>>16973084
Who the fuck is "we" lmao you loser. "You" are a nerd who masturbates to chicks with dicks.

>>16972945
>effective only for OCD
They work on anxious people in general. They initially overstimulate and then the nervous system adjusts to stop sending such intense signals anymore.

>>16973187
>>respond to rising rates of mental illness and suicide by pushing back against the one thing that's letting a lot of people function
You don't "function" with SSRI, retard; research on meds such as Xanax, Prozac, and SSRI rely on extremely flawed reductionist models with zero longitudinal studies to examine the ramifications of inhibiting neural correlates in an insanely complex, plastic structure like the human brain.
I've known people who are dead inside due to putting such garbage into their bodies.

>>16973084
>>16973187
>>16973383
>>16973409
>>16973412
Fat zoomer trannies detected.

>>16972945
I developed permanent tinnitus after using this shit just for five days at the lowest dose.
How do normies tolerate these drugs so well that they use it for years?

>>16973985
I tried 1/4 dose the first day then went to 1/8 for a while and it was still messing with me. I was stupid for eventually upping back to 1/4 to get more effect before waning off and dealing with side effects.
The people taking the full dose and feeling okay have genetically crude nervous systems. They can handle more drugs with the tradeoff that they can't process fine distinctions.

>>16973952
Pro-racoon penis lobbyist detected. How much are you being paid by Big Roadkill?

>>16973947
>You don't "function" with SSRI
I do. I used to have extreme anxiety attacks and chronic insomnia every night since childhood. This shit fixed literally everything.

>>16973084
To be fair, psychiatrist diagnosis is almost always overeager and categorically rejects biomechanistic explanations, so it's understandable that no one takes it serious.

>>16973947
you're right, we should take everyone off meds and just let them walk it off.

>take the forever poison that zaps your brain, makes you fat, kills your dick and removes your soul
>if you change your mind and want to get off it later you might up with neurological damage, tee hee but its okay its totally safe
yeah I'll just stick with being depressed

crazy how somehow all of humanity seemed to get by without jewish pharmaceuticals for thousands of years just fine but now every other person absolutely needs them to function

>>16974008
>>16974013
What else, jidf?

>>16973340
>Being functional means being a compliant sheep
Do you also think schizophrenia is good and not a life impairing issue?

Threadly reminder that there is zero compelling evidence of SSRIs working, that's why the pharma shills have to stick to derailing the thread and talking about schizophrenia etc.

It's obvious that leftists are taking themselves off their anti-psychotics.

>>16974058
>pharma shills
Who's "shilling", fool? these meds are made by over 9000 small labs all over the world farting out generic pills that cost as much as peanuts.

>>16974170
>Who's "shilling"
You are, stinky little jeet.

>>16974173
>Indians out of nowhere

>>16974191
>shitty jeet thinks no one can tell