So recently I got my first taste of existential dread/ eldritch horror. It was the theory of how universe might end and how it would result in nothing ever happening ever again, universe turning into a bowl of roaming particles that doesn't react to anything. Nothing will ever happen for all eternity and it kinda scares me knowing eventually it'll all end, existence will cease to be. It being billion even trillions of years away doesn't ease me since this possibility exists.
>>16974251It's not gonna matter to you much when you die (within the next 4 years).
>>16974254the problem comes from the implication that none of this will matter as the humanity and everything else will cease to exist. This isn't the usual fear of death it is the fear of an utter meaningless.Thinking about how everything will end and universe will be a soup of rogue particles forever is terrifying. Tho there is like 10 different way the universe said could end , maybe the one that will allow another big bang to happen will happen
Wont happen, its steady stateMy preferred theory is fundamental substrate is photons, they dont experience time.Applying thermodynamics to entire universe is not correct
>>16974258None of it will matter when you're dead, either. There is no such thing as "existential dread", there is only civilization fucking up your brain chemistry.
>>16974267oh shut up
>>16974287Sorry, your entire philosophy is just a symptom of a mental illness caused by the way of life that spawned that philosophy in the first place. Existentialism has zero substance. It's really just a bunch of pretentious mumbling by urbanite pedophiles.
>>16974267dude we had that ever since the first humans.
>>16974317>dude we had that ever since the first humans.Proof?
>>16974258>>16974251Read marco aurelio >>16974323Proof is that marco aurelio already talked about existencial dreadYou are literal the kid that learned the sun will explode in 3 billion years
>>16974330>marcus aurelius was the first ever human and didn't live in civilizationRetard board.
>>16974303>materialist retard kvetching about muh pedophilia when he doesn't even believe in morality
>>16974385>psychotic patient mumbling about imaginary materialists and refusing to take his medsI don't believe in """morality""", christgolem. I can give you that. How is this relevant?
>>16974251>Nothing will ever happen for all eternity Why would you even assume that? It makes more sense to assume we live in an eternal cyclical cosmology than anything.
>>16974386Yet you felt the need to point out those "urbanite pedophiles" are the ones raping poor anon's psyche specifically.>christgolemlol retard.
>>16974389What does it have to do with your golem """morality"""?
>>16974392Because you're using moral laden language to justify an immoral idea.
>>16974394> you're using moral laden language Meds. Right. Fucking. Now.
>>16974395You should "take your meds" because you're pseudo-intellectual garbage with no sapience or awareness.
>>16974251the "cosmological constant" isn't real, dumbfuck.good job getting grifted by jidf.
it's all a lie, they seriously think there's a black hole in the middle of the universe now, it's all a joke a humiliation ritual for anyone stupid enough to fall for it. Science has turned the universe into god's cosmic toilet
>>16974396>psychotic patient devolves into incoherent rageStill waiting for you to explain what pointing out anon's spiritual leaders are pedos (much like yours) has to do with your golem morality.
>>16974400>Science has turned the universe into god's cosmic toiletAlan Watts talked about this.
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>>16974387I dunno, the theories I've read
>>16974402>>psychotic patient devolves into incoherent rageI'm rather cold when it comes to dealing with vermin like you, if anything.>Still waiting for you to explain what pointing out anon's spiritual leaders are pedos (much like yours) has to do with your golem morality.Because you would only call them a "pedophile" unprompted if you understood there's semantical baggage attached to the label i.e. you apply dualistic language to provoke and attack while retreating behind the veneer of nominalism. Ergo, you are a spiteful mutant.
>>16974407>semantical baggage>dualistic language>veneer of nominalism>ErgoHoly Mother of All 80 IQ Pseuds. STILL waiting for you to explain what pointing out anon's spiritual leaders are pedos (much like yours) has to do with your golem morality. There's probably some "semantical baggage" in my entirely accurate characterization of you in this post. Doesn't make it a moral judgment.
>>16974405I don't even like Alan Watts, but he had occasional tidbits of wisdom.>Now, I have always found this a highly civilized and humane point of view. For Westerners, the only real alternative to the boss-God religion has been the so-called scientific view of the universe as a system of essentially stupid objects. This comes from looking at things in a coldly withdrawn way, as in studying the behavior of machinery, and in physiology and psychology we turn this attitude inward upon ourselves—only to become objectionable objects to our own gaze. If this mechanical view of life gets rid of horrors about sin and guilt, it also gets rid of any real reason for sympathy or kindness. From the standpoint of mechanical efficiency, all feelings and emotions are just obstructive static; and when we are through with poisoning the air, there will be every reason for replacing ourselves with steady-state electronic mechanisms that require no atmosphere and do nothing but solve mathematical problems. The objective attitude to oneself is finally suicidal, and it is not, therefore, (Text sourced from https://www.organism.earth/library/document/sound-of-rain) surprising that the grandest flower of our technology is the hydrogen bomb.
>>16974410I like Alan Watts but my the meme still applies.
>>16974408>STILL waiting for you to explain what pointing out anon's spiritual leaders are pedos (much like yours) has to do with your golem morality.I'm asking what it has to do with your golem morality. Ffs, talking to people on this board is like talking to an AI.
>>16974413>psychotic patient devolves into full-blown incoherenceNoted. Maybe someone else who hasn't been neglecting to take his meds can explain why you need golem morality to find certain categories of people contemptible?
I don't know what the fuck I am. Atoms,electrons? They get replaced. All I know is the only way I came into existence was the exact circumestances that made me being born.So If I want to exist that needs to happen again aka the universe just has to loop forever. What came before the big bang? Who knows I guess something caused all the matter or energy in the universe to become one and then explode. I guess it will happen again, it will probably reach the same state before the big bang because thats the most stable or someshit and then it will explode again in the exact same way. maybe I live a few differrent lives in one loop maybe I don't. I just try to live the best life so if I do loop I can have a good infinite loop. Some how the unforgiving reality of this is if you have a shitty life like a slave or a peasent or maybe even some farm raised bird that lives for 2 weeks before turning into a chicken nugget seems to help me reinforce this idea. but who knows Maybe you just die and fast forward to the eternal bliss singularity
>>16974415>why you need golem morality to find certain categories of people contemptible?Why do you think your hatred of pedophilia has nothing to do with you being a golem moralist yourself?
>>16974428I love and hate as I please. I don't need to convince myself, let alone negotiate with human cattle like you, about whether or not the people I hate are doing something "wrong".
>>16974430Another lie.
>>16974439>human cattle can't fathom someone not being like it
>>16974447>morality isn't real>but being a pedophile/urbanite/human cattle? That's LE BAD
>>16974448Your reading comprehension and general grasp on reality are pretty bad. You are genetic waste - a bad biological organism. "Bad" isn't inherently a moral judgment.
>>16974251My favorite fantasy is false vacuum decay.
>>16974454what are the chances of that happening?
>>16974405Hey it's babies first meme again
>>16974251You live for 100 years, why does 1 trillion concern you. Protip: it's not base reality anyway... it's all made up.
>>16974452>Your reading comprehension and general grasp on reality are pretty bad. You argue like a spastic ADHD zoomer shithead incapable of sticking to a single line of thought, which is probably why you're so against thoughtful contemplation.>You are genetic waste - a bad biological organism.How am I the genetic waste for defending the inner lives of sensitive men shattered by the malaises caused by post-industrial society, exactly?>"Bad" isn't inherently a moral judgment.Yes it is - for example, that previous line was a moral judgement against my character.
>>16974454That one's scarier than end of the universe because it could happen at any moment and humans might survive it but get painfully stretched or squashed in the process and we all just lay there dying unable to move because all our bones have been crushed and soforth
>>16974600Good thing its all entirely make believe.
>>16974258You are already meaningless to 99%+ of life, you don't even speak the same language as most humans, if you disappeared tomorrow maybe a couple of dozen people out of billions would even notice let alone care.
>>16974430Are you saying you weren't trying to build a moral case against them as you were arguing against their position?Then why were you trying to use their pedophilia as non-sequitur justification for why you have discarded their reasoning?
>>16974452So urban human cattles are good and you brought up pedos because they are your highest tier role models?
>>16974570>How am I the genetic wasteBy being born mentally deficient. This is clearly bad but it's not a moral judgment. Do you need more examples to help you grasp this basic concept?
>>16974641I like how all you dumb subhumans sound the same and make the same basic mistakes even after having them spelled out several times.
>>16974640>Then why were you trying to use their pedophilia as non-sequitur justificationI wasn't using it as a justification for anything. And even if I had, what does it have to do with morality? Christgolem morality gives children brain damage...
>>16974675I like how you are not making a moral judgment when it is convenient, but you are making a moral judgement when you would look bad otherwise.>>16974676You were obviously trying to make philosophy seem bad, so you mindless lumped it in with pedophilia, the most bad thing you could thing of.
>>16974689Your post makes it extremely clear that you're a literal bot or that christgolem """morality""" produces mindless automatons.
>>16974694How so? The obvious thing is that you know pedophilia is one the worst acts with the harshest punishments in modern society, so you only invoked it to try to make an emotional connection between philosophy and the worst crime you can thing of.
>>16974698>How so?Because the limitations of your mind (if you even have one) force you to loop on the same trivial mistake over and over no matter how many times you're corrected. You're also unable to grasp or address the questions I ask you. You're not fully human.
>>16974251Is God going to save His "chosen people" from the heat death of the universe?
>>16974701How is it a mistake? Why did you say philosophy was bad while also trying to connect it to a crime if you weren't trying to demoralize it?>>16974694Doesn't contain any questions.>>16974676I answered the question and you have pointed out no mistake since you were very clearly trying to tie the moral action of doing philosophy to the morality of being a mentally ill urbanite committing pedophilia.
>>16974733>How is it a mistake?It's a mistake because thinking something is bad isn't a moral judgment. Your primitive bio-LLM cognition simply can't process this so you keep looping back to your christgolem alignment RL axioms.
>>16974742>It's a mistake because thinking something is bad isn't a moral judgment.Yes it is, that is exactly what moral judgments, thinking something is bad vs good and you were clearly lumping a bunch of things together you thought were bad.>imply can't processSo you are saying you think that its a good thing to be a pretentious urbanite pedophile, crime and punishment is not related to morality?
>>16974747>Yes it isOnce again the mindbroken golem confirms his inherent inability to reason about the subject. :^)
>>16974752If I misunderstand the topic of morality and moral judgments aren't about determining/signalling the badness/goodness of something, what are they judging?
>>16974758Judging the goodness or badness of something has nothing to do with morality unless it carries the implication that the thing judged as good or bad should or shouldn't be done.
>>16974761I didn't ask what morality doesn't entail, I asked what it does entail.Why shouldn't something be done unless its bad to do it? What is the difference between something being good/bad vs something good/bad to do?
>>16974764Mentally ill retard, that post directly answers your question.
>>16974768No, it answers what morality has nothing to do with (instead of what it is actually judging) and doesn't specify the difference between something being good/bad versus something being good/bad to do.
>>16974769Anyone who wants usable image board can thank """morality""" for society's failure to sterilize this deformed cretin's feeble-minded mother.
>>16974772Should I thank your geriatric mother's alcoholism for your repeated failure to give straightforward answers without constantly veering into rants filled with impotent rage?
>>16974251You can seek comfort in the fact that all knowledge and argumentation (and science) is inherently illogical due to the Meunchhausen Trillema. In reality, these are all bits and pieces resting on very sophisticated errors of reason and while you're free to go schizo over them, you're going schizo over flaws.
>>16974777Too bad that only refutes semantic things that produce no sensory experience like agrippa's trilemma itself.
>>16974774>straightforward answersYour genetic disease prevents you from grasping straightforward answers:>>16974761>[morality] carries the implication that the thing judged as good or bad should or shouldn't be done.
>>16974779Yeah sure, "semantic things". How the fuck do you think our pal here got the idea in his head? Language. Semantic things. All of which can be attacked to the ground.
>>16974251Don't worry, time isn't real
>>16974251Well it's not like you're ever going to be around to see it, you'll die and then the rest of history will pass by in an instant, whatever happens then is anyone's guess
>>16974251>>16974258So, given that "eternity" reduces even the present age of the universe to nothing, what a remarkable coincidence it is that you exist in that relatively tiny stretch of time. It's like you stuck your hand in a random trashcan and found a gold doubloon on the first try...the probability is better of that occurance.
>>16975016>what a coincidence you exist at the only period of time where its possible to existHow do you people know how to breathe?
>>16975019Well, think about it... what are the chances you'd be such a worthless fucking faggot in this particular era and not one where you'd be forced to shovel shit and actually be useful? You exist only to park your mouth next to a glory hole and await your next meal... what are the chances?
>>16975025You say that but i still get the feeling that im shovelling shit when im talking to you. You arent exactly going to get rid of yourself, are you? Perhaps its destiny to be a janitor in every era because the filth never knows its rightful place
>>16974674Whatever you say. Not going to waste my time with a braindead bot that repeats the same things over and over.
>>16974251Heat death of the universe is only inevitable if dark matter is real, which exists solely to plug in Einstein's schizophrenic "general relativity" theory.
>>16975250There are multiple independent pieces of evidence pointing to dark matter, and relativity is thoroughly empirically validated.
>>16975248>Not going to waste my time with a braindead bot that repeats the same things over and over.Glad to hear about your impending suicide.
holy fuck you guys are still going
>>16974251problem with these assumptions is we try to predict what will happen in many billions of years, but universe itself seems to be just 14 bil years old and unlike with old people around you, we have absolutely no reference model for such time scales.
>>16974402you lost tranny
