never going to happen editionprevious >>17003963
Cancel ISS
Nope, not getting out of this chair.
But then who's going to loot modules off the ISS?
spectrum status?hungry hippo status?starship status?
>>17006970You have no idea.
they were going to repurpose gateway's halo module into the core module of a commercial station, werent they? its not a bad idea, but the juice didnt seem like it was worth the squeeze.
>>17007019c o r r o d e d
>>17007016No sign of the cargo door Starship
>>17007016I'm still waiting on gray dragon myself
StarDragon
we are 2 flights away from operational starship.I said this 8 flights ago, but still
>>17007058
so 2 more years
>>17007063grim
Exomars/Rosalind Franklin heat shield is starting integrationNASA delivered the first Lockheed-made descent engines to Thaleshttps://x.com/arianegroup/status/2070552925366292551https://europeanspaceflight.com/nasa-delivers-braking-engines-for-esa-rosalind-franklin-mars-mission/
>>17007067>Lockheed>EnginesAren't these the guys who blew the budget for MSR
Size comparison between Terran R, CZ-10C and F9CZ-10C should fly in mid-late 2027 from the upcoming LC-3 launch site of the Hainan commercial site.
>>17007070cz 10c?
Is venus life finder still a thing?
IMPORTANT>Kazakhstan Railways (KTZ) is installing Starlink internet in around 900 train carriages by July as part of its national rail modernization program.
>>17007114Why is it that literally the entire world has better internet access than the US
>>17007117Not literally true, but the explanation for something being bad for no good reason is, as always, corruption.
>>17007118remember when they offered billions in funding to ISPs to connect rural households to the internet, but starlink was the only company that was denied funding?
>>17007117mine is fine. this is over whatever crappy router my neighbor has since I use in a duplex and they pay for it. post yours
>after flight 14, there will consistently be at least one Starship launch per month, every monthHas /sfg/ decided whether that's completely true or absolutely true?
>>17007133100% true
>>17007133we are absolutely fucked with AI. courtroom evidence will be fucked.everything will be fucked
>>17007117Are you aware of where starlink was invented?
>>17007016being analysedworking but famishedstarstill starsuborbital
>>17007015I want whatever drugs they're on
>>17007117There's a cyclical aspect to this, but also corruption and retarded boomers in congress and running the telecoms. An example of the cyclical aspect were Japanese and German factories that were razed to the ground during WWII but by15 years after the war ended had better and more modern equipment than the American factories that had made the things that destroyed them which were still using legacy equipment. Similarly the original internet infrastructure was built in America but as it became obsolete upgrades were slow and infrastructure even slower due to boomers once again preferring to save a buck and failing to see the use case for faster internet. When pressed on the issue they said shit like the country is too big and rural. When it was pointed out that there was no problem doing the same for electricity and telephones they circled back to saying congress didn't give them enough billions. Disaster of a generation.
>>17007117Do you ever think before pulling shit out of your ass?
>>17007046Tourist here. Why does it look blueish while the others don't?
>>17007067Reminder that it took TWENTY EIGHT YEARS for this stupid thing to go from paper to reality
>>17007191Russia shouldn't have invaded Ukraine then
Would it really have been that much harder to make a Falcon Superheavy with 4 boosters to have a real reusable launch vehicle ready?
>>17007187Raptor 3 vs Raptor 2, plus any various combinations of minor fuel mixture tweaks.
>>17007008I was at The Great American State Fair yesterday and there was Axiom exhibit. It consisted of two TVs with no power, no presenters, and a sign that said Axiom Space
>>17007199they're a bunch of goobers
>>17007199Let me guess: you NEED more
>>17007199They're trying their best, dammit!
>>17007199Neat. Did you check out the NASA and SpaceX exhibit?
Looks like we have a concrete date of the LM-10B flight. 10th of July. And the ZQ-3 will be launching around the same time, probably in the same week. Will be an interesting week if they both manage to land.
4 days to pegasus exploding
Cancel Starship.
spehs
>>17007208yeah, they've been winning.
>>17007253water tank
Mike Brown on suicide watch
>>17007294JUST
>>17007292They can flyyes
Hullo is in BIG trouble now
>>17007310isnt that just the ship from avatar
>>17007133Why ask a question that only has one answer that won't get you banned? Take note of how much activity on /sfg/ has declined, both in quality and quantity. Hug boxxing has consequences.
>>17007294Pluto is still not a planet so Mike is doing fine.
>>17007310I assume Scott is just not used to dealing with this kind of stuff.
I ride my bike every morning, I live in New Orleans LA and noticed something in the sky that I've never seen here and thought it might be a rocket launch or something. This was at about 5:50am CST. It started pretty low in the horizon before the sun came up and it was brighter than anything else in the sky at the time and just kept going up until it eventually disappeared when I turned south and couldn't see it anymore. The picture is crap quality but it's a phone pic and I didn't stop to take a picture just did it while riding. Any idea what this could be? Only things I could find were some falcon 9 starlink launches out of Vandenburg. It gained way too much altitude to be an airplane contrail or anything like that
Also I was facing about east when I took this picture.
>>17007321There was a launch from California couple days ago.
>>17007321plug it into sitrep
>>17007187blue = efficientorange = inefficientthe more blue a flame, the more complete the mix of fuel and oxygen and no carbon deposits(the orange are unburned carbon). what it essentially means is in the long run, orange flames = less thrust for rocket, less efficient engine.
perseverance
>>17007325I mean I'd say it could be something burning up on re-entry but the trajectory was at first right next to those clouds and as I rode it got higher and higher, the photo is ass but the exhaust was triangular and looked like it was from boosters.
>>17007343Drilling holes, dropping samples (will never be recovered), making tracks
>>17007343>>17007350is perseverance the jeet of rovers? literally flew to mars just to shit all over the place
>>17007351>designated sampling path
>>17007351As far as I know it hasn't started delusional gloating and head bobbing yet.
https://x.com/Lokeshkr73/status/2070881603841327117>ISRO Successfully Conducted 175 Ton (88%) PHTA (Power Head Test Article) of Semi-Cryogenic Engine. One step closer to 200 Ton (100%). This is a big capability upgrade for ISRO. Although making it operational is a challenge of its own.India's SCE-200 engine was originally planned to enter service in 2012.
>>17007384that's nice. When are they going to get their main launchers back in service? They've launched nothing since the PSLV failure in January.
Starship may be doing a Hawaii re-entryhttps://appsportal.fisheries.noaa.gov/eco/page/search?consultationId=32785
>>17007457all it says is North Pacific Ocean... = Hawaii?
>>17007457I want to see the tower catch a Starship already, quit throwing them into the sea like old car batteries.
>>17007461it's like that one HL2 map, the batteries respawn if you chuck them in
I love exoplanet autismhttps://youtu.be/AXVZ8xz56yE
>>17007461>>17007462>batteries into oceanForced jeet meme
newfags get out
>>17007310I can't listen to Scott. The way he pronounces the H is just revolting.
I appreciate how Io doesn’t give a fuckkk it just sits there in a hellish bath of radiation and tidal forces with hyperactive volcanism and says yeah what are you gonna do about it
>>17007483>yeah what are you gonna do about it
>>17007460Choose a location, then.
>>17007500It's over>It's over[spoiler]It's over[spoiler]I have not watched the video[/spoiler][/spoiler]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qpdUNMt2yg
real ai compute sats have never been tried
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qpdUNMt2yg
What dumbass at RL saw the neutron steel plans and said nahhh lets do composites that's a good trick
>>17007456In theory there's a GSLV launching "next month." It was supposed to launch on the 10th, but that obviously didn't happen. The PSLV is supposed to return to flight in July, but there's doubts about being able to pull off that quick of a turnaround after the GSLV launch, if that even happens. In either case, I haven't seen any posts showing hardware arriving at Sriharikota, which is a strong hint that neither of those rockets are going to be launching any time soon.It mildly more positive news, Skyroot Aerospace has completed the first set of flight hardware for their Vikram-1 and should be ready for a long sometime later this year. The first Gaganyaan test flight is also supposed to happen in late July or early August, and that's less likely to be hindered by delays with the PSLV/GSLV.
>>17007310For having a screenshot of the ISV Venture Star from the second movie?>b-but this troon traced over it!!!!Don't care.
>>17007508It depends on how original the piece was; but yeah
https://x.com/mickeywzx/status/2070735411471876138>Reconstructed SpaceX June 23 Starfall mission trajectory, based on Dillonshrop06 elsets, and optical tracking from China:>1. altitude/apogee ~ 900km;>2. plane change maneuver agreed to Australia sighting;>3. fuel dumping event in China at ~ 13:40 UTC;>4. reentry ~ 14:08 UTC.
>>17007500is it just re-iterating the IAAA article, i.e. "cooling is hard"?I haven't bothered watching his stuff for years now, seems to have kind of a hateboner against musk
>>17007500It's strawmanning Starcloud's concept of a monolithic datacenter and implies that the problems with that apply to all space DC concepts. He knows constellation concepts exist because he briefly brings up Google's suncatcher, but only to dunk on it because of sat-sat comms. It has to be malicious and/or EDS.
I'm going to McDonalds can y'all watch my /sfg/ for me? thanks
>>17007500He just nit picks that shitty starcloud proposal most of the video..I don't see why pumping coolant is some impossible problem
Alright, we need to kick that guy off the clan, this is a Wendy's only general.
>>17007513>kind of a hateboner against muskHuh? I've never heard of such a thing
>>17007488>Jarvis Islandthe choice is obvious
>>17007522Culvers gang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDpHSNw3Hpk
>>17007519>>17007517so like I expected lol
>>17007541Hold on, are those refueling ports at 11:24?
>>17007548Last ship had them too
Remind me why do spaceflight fans hate the shuttle program? I think I heard in a conversation a few weeks ago that space enthusiasts dislike it for some reason.This week I saw the Atlantis in person. I think the shuttle is badass and it's hard for me to hate it. I would like to know what this general thinks about the shuttle program.
ETA on next starship launch?
>>17007574>I think the shuttle is badFixe'd
>>17007574very cool, but ludicrously expensive and it didn't accomplish any of its stated program goals.
>>17007576:(>>17007577Yeah for what it did it cost a lot of money. Maybe it wasn't worth that much. At least we got the ISS out of it I suppose.
>>17007574It's an impressive machine, but never really achieved it's reusability goals and got us stuck in low orbit for 40+ years.It also killed more people than any other spacecraft.
>>17007579>:(Pro: It looked rad and was coolCon: 14 KIA
>>17007574You can't really talk about the shuttle without mentioning the utter collapse of the NASA that did the lunar landings into a contractor-captured failure of an agency. By the 1980sFeynman was absolutely disgusted by what the agency he used to idolize had become. The shuttle was the emblem of NASA giving up on space exploration. It may have been an amazing technical achievement but it represented an America that had simply stopped trying. After Challenger there was a very real possibility that NASA would be shut down. Reagan saved their asses for the dumbest of reasons
>>17007500>he replied to his own post?
>>17007613Such power....
>>17007500>>17007504buy an ad fag
>>17007579>At least we got the ISS out of it I suppose.Imagine an ISS made from the Saturn 5.
>>17007590>Reagan saved their assesBullshit all Republicans do is cut every science program they can
>>17007630Bush canceled STS but uh, who cancelled Constellation? Personally I have enough hate my heart for both.
>>17007575Trust the plan.E
>>17007574> Remind me why do spaceflight fans hate the shuttle program?Personally I hate it because they never built the Shuttle-C. It could still have flown when crew shuttle was grounded.
>>17007488RETVRN
>>17007673How the fuck did they get the rocket, and the equipment on the island with the tiny dinky dock? I'd expect a roll-on port or something.
>>17007673soul
>>17007673>sharks
>>17007015I like how it only steals one module then instantly fucks off.Also what's with the bit at ~10s when it attaches a module to the top then moves it to the side? Balancing issues?
>>17007629>just tie a bunch of Starlabs together and add a few russian modulesthat would have been based
>>17007714>attaches a module to the top then moves it to the side?Didn't like the way it looked on the top
>spacex is buying a startup called mesh>mesh makes "optical transceivers for terrestrial data centers"https://techcrunch.com/2026/06/26/ftc-gives-musk-the-ok-to-acquire-spacex-alumni-startup-mesh/also, spacex and charter communications are discussing creating a mobile phone offering>Charter, the largest home internet provider in the US, could run some of SpaceX’s phone traffic through its ground-based internet infrastructure, much as it does with its Spectrum Mobile offering presently>A deal, if finalized, would help SpaceX along its desired path toward becoming more of a direct-to-consumer mobile phone providerhttps://archive ph/nHDhb
>>17007723>terrestrial data centersNothingburgerHe's already back-tracking from space data centers
>>17007723>starcellAre you ready?
>>17007574Designed by committee to do everything, turned out to be capable of almost nothing.Also cost.
StarElon will StarSell us StarStar
StarSaar
XCell tho
Explain me like im 5 . why is E doing all of this ? SpaceXAI , computing in space , terafab , etc all of this .? Why don't just create a mars mission and set a date ? Maybe im too dumb to see it ? is there something im not seeing ?
>>17007735He lost interest in Mars
>>17007735We're not doing "missions" anymore, whatever that meansWe're industrializing space
>>17007735shut up EDSthe plan is going according to plan26 flights this year btw
one day 27 flights in 2027 will happen, or maybe it'll be 28 flights in 2028, or 29 in 2029, whatever. but when it happens, the next year will be double or triple that.
>but when it happens>whenAnon, I...
>>17007629that reminds me: the OG US station Skylab never lived up to its full potential because the shuttle program ran so late. It was ready for an extended mission all the way up until reentry in 1979, but he shuttle ran late to 1981.
>>17007726>>17007733it will be the best international service.Hence: InCell
>>17007726There will be no more star names. They got old.
>>17007735He has operated this way for decades. You're asking for an explanation for a change that doesn't exist.
>>17007735if he just personally launched some missions into mars, that would not create the situation where space becomes self-sustaining and growing rapidly from an economic and industrial perspectiveyou need big economic incentives that will drive down launch costs and satellite costs (and hopefully something to exploit ISRU things) so there are simple economic incentives to do so without visionaries
>>17007315I did not spend the entirety of my school life learning about all the 9 planets of our solar system, only for some yahoos in their ivy league ivory towers just to tell me Pluto is no longer a bonafide planet. It's still a planet to me, damnit!
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2071184354756477041
>>17007787buy signal
All Shuttle fans should be eradicated desu
>>17007782>he has abandoned mars for decadesGrim.>>17007783it would show that he is serious and embarrass every critic who has ever stated otherwise while enabling early tests of robust and self sufficient long term life support systems for the trip to and back.>b-but Elon doesn't care about public opinionthen he isn't serious in his dream. A Mars colony will be established and manned by the Average Normal Insignificant Person from Earth and if it's not, then it will forever remain a mere research outpost.
>>17007804so if he doesn't prioritize some rapid showcase you think he isn't serious? lol
>>17007808>so if he <blatant misinterpretation of the post> you think he isn't serious? l-lolYes, absolutely correct, Anon. You're spot on.
>>17007787Will probably get mogged by chinkshit like GLM, but hopefully Cursor can salvage his model ambitions eventually.
>>17007810okay, break it down for me thenif he doesn't care about embarrassing critics he doesn't care about it really? what are you saying, I have a bit difficulty in following the logicyou are basically saying that, if Musk doesn't say, do or show something (I'm not sure what), you deduce that he doesn't really care about Mars?
>>17007804>show that he is serious and embarrass every criticHow pointless
>>17007814>>17007815please read the reply chain and think about what was discussed, that should clear things up. If it doesn't, then neither will my spoonfeeding.
>>17007816I'm >>17007808>>17007814>>17007783I did read it, I just don't understand your point
>>17007714>I like how it only steals one module then instantly fucks off.Always cheese it after a successful heist, you don't want to stick around anon
>>17007787>new model from scratch every monthpretty aggressive
>>17007804Oops, I already explained it's more general than that. You're just retarded.
>>17007828>Oops, I already explained how I'm wrong. You're just retarded teeheeThe intelligence of Anon's mind just keeps surprising me.
vastaxiomSierrawho will have a working station?
>>17007830SpaceX
>>17007574pros>cool as fuckcons>killed 14 people>the expected reusability vs reality>the price per launch
>>17007831space stations aren't useful for developing space exploration technologies, apparently, so they're out
>>17007833yeah, that's why I said SpaceX
>>17007833That's stupid, build space housing so I can go live somewhere besides this gay Earth.
>>17007832one day we'll have a real shuttle that wont be a piece of shit
grow upspaceplanes fucking suck
>>17007830a joint axiom-vast-nasa station
when is SpaceX going to tell these station companies that they're only doing in-house missions (HLS aside) and nothing else with Starship until 2030+?
starlink launch 15 min
>>17007851not spaceflight
>>17007852I believe it may go to space
/nsfg/
>>17007856in our dreams maybeLEO isn't space btw
space starts at the heliopause
>>17007859>LEO isn't space btwTry to breath in it then
>>17007860this guy gets it>>17007862try to breath[sic] in the mesosphere and get back to us with your groundbreaking discovery
I'm excited for the Roman telescope to refine rouge planet counts
>Starlink launcha hundred launches to go before Falcon 9 overtakes Soyuz-U as the most flown rocket configuration of all time
>>17007866>try to breath[sic] in the mesosphereTry to orbit in it then (you) get back to me
>>17007868so next year then?
The space shuttle orbiters had 24k-27k tiles and almost every one of those was uniquestarship has about 18k tiles, but only about 200 unique ones
I'm excited for the Tianwen-2 sample collection, it will identify the origin of the Earth trojan
The earth can only throw you along one plane of rotation. It can't throw you up or down into space, just towards or away from the sun. Everything else is gravitational slingshots and minor alterations to your trajectory. It's actually insane how limited we are in where we can travel to.
>>17007574>was supposed to be cheap and fly often>turned out to be exactly the opposite and killed 14 people
>>17007898The benefits of tube technology
>>17007574The shuttle is very kino and it's what I grew up with but you have to admit going from lunar exploration to this permanent LEO space station shit just sucks
>>17007913well good thing there is nothing north or south
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IvsHja9TWg
>>17007962https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_LA2
>>17007970TTSlop
>>17007971You won't get there without something better that chemical engines regardless
>>17007464i used to but now i love trying to figure out the physics of getting there in a human lifespanno i am not out of my depth
>>17007787https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2071323738201837785starlink and starship engineers are shifting to AI lol
with how unrelentingly SHITTY grokpedia is, I am extremely dubious they can fix the underlying model.
>>17007998Mars cancelled due to clankers
can Chinese llm models even work due to the logographic nature of their bugman language?
>>17008005all programming is in english, essentially
>>17007998>dozens of starship engineers have been moved to work on grokwe really arent fucking going to mars
>>17008010I blame Vivian for his downfall, it mentally fucked him
>>17008010Sorry, but line must go up.
>>17008010?I see this as good news. They are at a position now where they can allocate more time and resources away from Starship, which signals that it's mostly, solved.A ship just left masseys, a few hours ago, and another one is arriving. We've never had this happen before. The fuck do you mean 'we really aren't going to mars'?
W H I T E T I L E Shttps://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2071121724939128891
>>17008015"mostly solved"where is HLSwhere is chomperwhere is tankerwhere is >80t to orbitwhere is demonstrated heat shield resiliency and reusewhere is CA and FL padsetc
>>17008017The point where the engineers run out of stuff to do is way sooner than it starts flying.
>>17008016holy shit just glue them on you fuckers stop trying to have dumb pins
>>17008022changing tiles connected with pins should be much easier
>>17008016Do the black tiles also have this?
>>17008016Band name idea
>>17008025Yeah. That's the internal bracket that provides the tile's structural support.
https://x.com/shivon/status/2071338934353662431
>>17007500https://x.com/TheBrianMcManus/status/2071337637332611124
>>17008036what do you get as a birthday present for a trillionaire?
>>17008036Yo, they baked him a Starship cake!
So S40 is ready to go after another SF probably. S41 is going for a cryo test right now. What's the status on the boosters, do we have one ready for S40 and we're just waiting for another SF before full stack? And how many ships and boosters after this do we have in production? Where's the Starship diagram fag when you need him?
>>17008041idk sorry
>>17008039
>>17007998https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2071357162195132454
>>17008041the diagrams are on the ringwatchers discord server, but they seem to be outdated right now
I miss the Grimes days. nicki is slime
We have maxed out combustion rockets. That explains the last 50 years.
>>17008041Booster 20 is getting its engines installed, if they haven't been already. A static fire rollout should be not too far off.
>>17008038A phallus-shaped cake that he can use to please himself with.>>17008038
https://x.com/davill/status/2071359805336535391>600+ feet of crane assembled incredibly fast by the team. We will start pulling down the tower (segment by segment) so we can modify each piece in parallel.
>its just the moon, we can do both the moon and mars at the same time>its just orbital data centers, there's no need to worry, they'll pay for mars>starship engineers are being re-tasked to work on AI full time? that's not an issue, starship is already complete, it doesnt need the engineers anymore*YOU ARE HERE*>spacex was never actually going to colonize space, stop believing popsci bullshit
who are you quoting?
>>17008067they're literally all lines from sfgers
did i ask you?
Beck will save us
>>17008072There won’t be a shire, pippin
>>17007812>mogged by chink modelsPFFFTT!ALL chink models are embarrassingly stupid compared to US models.
Do you ever lament the paths you didn’t take that might have set you up on a path to be an Astronaut?
SiriusXM f9 launch 2.5 bongs
Look how white everyone in this photo is. It's like looking at a picture of an early Shuttle roll out. We're going to deport 100M people and then we're going to conquer the entire fucking universe.
>>17008085ok sweetie, we know you don't like brown people, but please keep it to yourself <3
>>17007574>the shuttleamazing machine and incredible feat of engineering>the shuttle programand its consequences have been a disaster for the spacefaring race
>>17008085those are tourists, not anyone involved in making it...
>>17007898source on the uniques count? I could see it easily be ten times that considering all the special autism areas on the ship.>>17008022I was about to say they glue them in certain areas like the nosecone but then I looked at the image again, lol. I guess they do pins there now as well.>>17008024afaik the pins are not releasable (i.e. you have to break the tile to remove it)>>17008041B20 is probably still at least a month from being ready. Maybe sooner but it seems unlikely going by past performance.
>>17008083yeah
>>17008089
>>17008091>afaik the pins are not releasable (i.e. you have to break the tile to remove it)yes, but you just have to break a bit and it pops of instead of having to crush it completely and clean the glue
>>17008089>boomer ellipses
>>17008107Don't interrupt him, he's not finished anon.
Rocket Lab has scheduled another Electron launch for the 29th (30th UTC), putting up another QPS SAR satellite.This also pulls New Zealand ahead of Russia for satellite launches this year.
5 minhttps://www.spacex.com/launches/sxm11
NOT watching a falcon 9 launch is the real celebration of spaceflightI can't wait to not watch a starship tanker mission #27
I've never met another human that pays for SiriusXM. how the hell are they still around
launch.should we really care though, after all commercial launch is <1% of the TAM for SpaceX.It's like caring about the Apple screen cleaning cloth.
>>17008119I'll watch into the 20s, probably not past the 30s when it becomes routine.
>>17008118>SiriusXMEventually it's all going to be Starlink.
>>17008037>makes blanket statement data centers in space are dumb the entire video >oh but actually you musk boot lickers are the bias and dumb ones!Fucking hate this faggot. He has done this every single video that's about space
I don't think we are leaving this earth
>>17008091>afaikReddit
>>17008037Technology, famously, is static.
When will we enter the two weeks goldilocks zone?
>>17008163two weeks
no one uses B-Stoff for a modern rocket? why not?
When's the next starfall? will there even be a next one?
>>17008036so are they fucking or nah?
>>17008036>>17008039Still only an expendable cake
https://x.com/LandSpace_Tech/status/2071522675085000725>UPDATE | ZhuQue-3 Y2 Reusable Launch Vehicle Completed Static Fire Test>On June 29, 2026, LandSpace’s ZhuQue-3 Y2 reusable launch vehicle successfully completed a static fire test at the Dongfeng Commercial Space Innovation Pilot Zone. The test comprehensively verified the vehicle system, the ground support system, and the compatibility between them. All systems operated normally, and test data and results met expectations, validating the correctness and coordination of system operations and laying a solid foundation for upcoming flight missions.>All key pre-launch ground verification work for the ZhuQue-3 Y2 reusable launch vehicle has now been completed. The team will proceed with launch preparations according to the established plan, making full preparations for the flight mission.
>>17007500This is the same faggot that made a puff piece about nikola a week before it was revealed as a scam and when he got called out on it he told everyone to fuck off lol
Why did they call the third stage S-IV (four) B. Why not S-III?
>>17008216StarFalcon ass looking shit
>>17008005>can Chinese llm models even work due to the logographic nature of their bugman language?LLMs already don't use words. They use tokens. If the output layers of an LLM get confused it will start predicting the output token language incorrectly and give you a random Chinese character that happens to mean approximately the same thing as the English it should have given you. It's relatively easy to induce with code switching in the prompt.But the bigger takeaway is that the deeper layers are more or less language agnostic. They're not processing words or sentences or even representations of them, which is pretty strange given that is their nominal purpose.I suppose that answers your question but it's doubly or triply irrelevant because Chinese isn't strictly or even largely logographic and because LLMs actually do fine processing Chinese text.
>>17008017It's a testing driven process. That means until the testing cadence is sufficiently high you will have some smart dudes sitting on their hands waiting for results.It's still better than designing anti-empirical rockets and hoping the process works (it doesn't) and ultimately only building a few units because the process is crushingly expensive even for superpowers.
>>17008182It's technically refurbishable via the carbon and nitrogen cycles and via fertilizer, but of course much more efficiently than refurbishing a space shuttle.I don't think there's demand for strictly reusable food.
>>17008236Interesting
>>17008107The boomer tell is randomly capitalizing words, not ellipses. I really want to know what algorithm in the boomer brains tells when and what words to capitalized cause it makes no sense to me.
>>17008235>I don't think there's demand for strictly reusable food.You're missing the lagomorph market
>>17008236LMAO, this is like watching two drowning people cling desperately to each other and pull each other down because neither knows how to swim because they are both black
>>17008236this is either retarded or genius. 99% chance its retarded, but i'm willing to keep an open mind.
>>17008243A lot of it is retarded, but Beck's on point about spectrum being a finite resource. Iridium might be a trash company but it could be worth it just to acquire their spectrum for a different product.
>>17008236>they spent $8 billion on themthats alot of fucking money. that could be a whole ass starship program.
>>17008247$8bill for iridium is insane, even with the spectrum rights, I doubt this works out well.
>>17007971This is some gay ass retrograde asteroid with a low angle to ecliptic, it doesn’t go far north or south
>>17008236https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3KtOZeORW8
>>17007574>why?because it froze spaceflight in place for 40 years and caused normalfags and many experts to outright give up on reusability until spacex proved them all wrong, it completely demoralized humanity for no reason and all because of design compromises made due to budget constraints.
>>17007740>strawmanning your opponent's opinions because you have no argumentseething.
>>17008017>where is HLS>where is this simpler version of the extremely difficult thing they're building>where is this minor modification that was not the focus because they were solving more difficult issues>where is this non-issue that we keep harping on about even though in-space fluid transfer is a solved issue>where is this thing we pretend isn't already there because it hurts our feelingsyou're seething lol.
>>17008070no, they're strawmen invented by you, someone with mental illness.
>>17008236>six ground spares for Iridium-NEXTThey were originally to be launched on Dnepr or Terran-1. I guess they would now go up on an Electron, which should be able to put 860kg into a medium earth polar orbit. Might even put all of them up at once as a test flight for Neutron.
>>17008259>normalfagsBro, you literally believe CGI rockets landing "backwards" are real
>>17007998how did xai get so fucked that he needs to resort to this lmao
>>17008287they've always been behind, xAI was started years after OpenAI and Anthropic
>>17008236>if we try to go the SpaceX route after they've already begun to capture the market and we have no relevant LV, surely we will be putting ourselves in a good positionyep, RIPAt least BO already has a potentially decent rocket when it isn't sharting itself and nuking its pad.
>>17008224The S-III was a two J-2 stage, to be used in the C-2 (2nd stage) and C-3 (third stage), both designed for Earth orbit rendezvous architectures.NASA changed the C-2 to have a 4 J-2 S-II 2nd stage when they took over Saturn in 1958, and the C-2 was cancelled Jun 1961 in favor of the C-3 due to estimated spacecraft weight doubling in this time.I didn't find the reasoning why, but the C-3 dropped the S-III in favor of the S-IV in 1960, and later the C-3B moved to the S-IIC-5A and S-IVB. I imagine that the added performance of the S-III wasn't worth the complexity of designing a whole new stage. In November 1962, Lunar orbit rendezvous was selected and the C-3 was cancelled because it no longer served a purpose.
>>17007804>A Mars colony will be established and manned by the Average Normal Insignificant Person from Earth and if it's not, then it will forever remain a mere research outpostThe butthurt from the first overqualified colonist/pioneers that will see normogroid wageslaves and tourists flood the outpost once they establish the colony, will provide enough motivation to directly move to Jupiter moons.>rrreeeeeeee
>>17008270t. elon
>17008262>17008264>17008270what is this mental illness called?
>>17007867ISRU on Mars involves refining a rouge planet
>>17008318>has enough kids with random foids that some went transNaw you have had enough pussy for one life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooOeVR7DOKw
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2071619354827866584>Sir Pete the Bold strikes again.
https://x.com/JackKuhr/status/2071580754442637670
>>17008337>>17008344so the informed consensus is that this is a smart play and /sfg/ is wrong again?
>>17008346I would say its almost necessary if they want to compete long termbeing just a launch company brings in too little revenue
>>17008347now we're going to be stuck with too many verticals until congress eventually signs a law in 20 years that will force interoperability between space verticals
>>17008252>>17008247it turns out you don't need O2 to burn money in space
>>17008349read somewhere in these threads that rocket lab's revenue mostly comes from their spacecraft parts manufacturing side, not lauch
>>17008355meant for>>17008347
>>17008357>>17008355looks like 2/3 are from non-launch
>>17008361pitiful revenue
>>17008362yes it was a lot less than I thoughtjust the newest and smallest customer (Reflection AI, a startup) pays SpaceX 450mil per quarter of revenueso that one customer is over twice the total revenue that Rocketlab has Iridium revenue is like 870mil per year, so acquiring them would double Rocketlabs revenue but still that is quite tiny
they cant buy anyone else until they have neutron working
>>17008363it's tiny but it makes grounded and material sense to your average financial analystlove em or hate em, spacex rides on the very edge of plausibility with their goals. big risks with equally big rewards.
the Hermians did nothing wrong in rendezvous with rama
https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2026/pdf/1566.pdfUsing magnets to deflect an iron-rich asteroid
>it's about to be july and starship has launched precisely once this yearwhen did it all go so horribly wrong? was it the move away from transpiration cooling?
>>17008344constellation refresh is a money pit, not a bonus just because you have no payloads for your fancy new paper rocket LOL
rocketlab should buy into ground stations so they can tap into the lunar boom
rocket lab should become an AI company and build data centers on oil rigs
more like satellite lab now amirite lmaooo
spes means hope in latin
>>17008318Exactly how old is this idiot?Fucking around is for kids.Get serious you absolute disgrace.It is actually scandalous for old men to be sexually libertine.Read the classics.
>>17008421ben Franklin was big pimpin into old age. be based like Benny.
>>17008424ben wrote some raunchy shit I tell you what
How are they supposed to catch up in sats when Neutron isn't going to be ready for at least over a year (and won't scale as fast as they want ofc) and its capacity is shit anyway?
>>17008436you heard of the tortoise? well prepare yourself for the sloth.
>>17006606fugggg I should have listened to /sfg/
>>17008454nostradamus posts amongst us
Reminder that five Starlink launches on Starship is the equivalent of a hundred Falcon 9 launches.
>>17008465Wow a cubic kilometer
>>17008465ok now post that in metric units for the rest of the world
>>17008469>>17008472it's about bandwidth, unc
