SETI - editionPrevious >>17010013
Cancel ISS
>>17012877No no, I'm quite sure you meant cancel SLS
>>17012860And no stake in the company for staff lol
NO SPACEFLIGHT TODAY, NEXT ONE IS IN 19 HOURSGO HOME
>>17012877Expand the ISS eternal tenfold
The LM-10 is launching next Monday, what are the odds of it successfully landing on it’s first try?
>>17012889100% successful, this is not your run-of-the-mill chinese firm or even the cz-12 series (which is another state owned endeavor). There's a lot behind-the-scenes riding on this family of rockets.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/07/blue-origin-for-the-first-time-is-expected-to-raise-private-capital/
>>17012894competition is based
>>17012875Every country should spend at least 0.1% of their GDP for SETI
>>17012899Someone should be looking at x ray spectrum, that’s what we plan to use for interstellar communication
>>17012896is the competition in the room with you right now?
https://x.com/davill/status/2074861865289597123
>>17012899Is Canada likely to find any intelligent life amongst its inhabitants?
>/sfg/niggas still think money can be converted to science like we're playing Civ
Cancel Starship.
Sophie Adenot is so hot
>>17012917Money can be exchanged for goods and services.
https://spacenews.com/space-force-adds-relativity-impulse-space-to-national-security-launch-program/Impulse is now doing NSSL launches.
>Launch now NET 15th, with backup dates listed from the 16th to the 21st
SpaceX should become the government's default failover option...select a non-SpaceX launch provider, and if they cant launch in time then the payload launches with SpaceX
>>17012931Not sure how they want to do that. Will they skip static fire? Will they do a static fire but without a rollback? Will they do a rollout, static fire, rollback, inspection, rollout in just 6-7 days?.
>>17012933not spacex, just falcon 9with promised in development tech, spx can be just as late as everybody else
>>17012936>Will they do a static fire but without a rollback?i think so
>>17012906operational before the end of teh year looking good now
>>17012931End of the month/beginning of august, then.
>>17012936>Will they do a static fire but without a rollback?They have cameras out the ass on the pad and in the booster, so I suppose if they saw no problems and other checks were gud, they could. I don't think they would do it while still on test flights though, but could be wrong.
>>17012931>>17012945where was this announced? was the cause of the previous booster failure released?
https://haya2now.jp/en.html
>>17012948>was the cause of the previous booster failure released?Investigations often close shortly before a launch.
>>17012928https://www.impulsespace.com/updates/impulse-space-awarded-nssl-lane-1-contract-as-first-ever-upper-stage-prime
still chuckle a bit when I remember that F9's development only cost one billy
>>17012532>sure, and he didn't specify which opus (4.5 or 4.8 etc) but you would think he meant 4.8LOL>Our internal assessment is that Grok 4.5 is roughly comparable to Opus 4.7fell for it again award
>>17012977https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2074911038286295049
https://x.com/SpaceXAI/status/2074915721684086811https://x.ai/news/grok-4-5
>>17012981>>17012989>guys please stop selling our stock
>>17012991the benchmarks aren't bad, its efficient and cheap
>>17012993>benchmemes
https://x.com/blueorigin/status/2074925745298698375
Is BO really gonna to be able to fix their launchpad before the end of the year?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XlXritWnjY
>>17013020maybe, pic is the surviving tower being dismantled to be fixed
>>17012875Is this Thor?????
>>17012993It's almost impossible to compare models nowadays when they're not telling how large the models are.
>>17013034why does that matter?
>>17013048A smaller model is easier and cheaper to run and if it performs as well as a larger model it hints at a real competitive advantage on the tech rather than infrastructure. Right now for the average person the comparison between model could easily just be who has the biggest training infrastructure without telling who has the best chance at running the models profitably.
>>17013050the cost and speed is widely reported and talked about with all current modelsthe actual size of the model doesn't matterwhat matters is the intelligence, cost and speed and those things are reported (speed and cost are both very good for grok 4.5)
https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/2074942097158021371https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/grok-4-5>Grok 4.5 achieved this score at a cost of $0.49 per GDPval task to sit clearly on the Pareto frontier for performance versus cost. This cost is lower than GLM-5.2 and Kimi K2.6, and nearly 90% cheaper than the models ahead of it on our leaderboard.
>>17013051Speed is more about infrastructure, Grok in particular has had a lot of overcapacity that Xai was able to contract out, this was actually a really profitable move for them and I think they'd be profitable if they weren't also trying to develop their own model.Cost is very much not talked about, only pricing.
>>17012977When you deliberately omit part of a quote.
>>17013052I guess they wanted to be at least one day before ChatGPT. Tomorrow GPT 5.6 will be released
>>17013052>90% cheaperand thats it. thats the game. grok wins by a landslide. we're in a massive recession and everyone is looking to cut costs. elon won. AGAIN.
>>17013034>>17013050The size doesn't matter at all for the user in this context. Correlated stats do, but not size itself.>Right now for the average person the comparison between model could easily just be who has the biggest training infrastructure without telling who has the best chance at running the models profitably.And so what? Benchmemes are supposed to be for the user's sake. You don't need the company's margin (or lack of) to determine whether or not a model is good.
>>17013061>and everyone is looking to cut costsFable is winning bigly still doe
never bet against elon
What % of grok tokens are processed in space data centers?
soon
>>17012936why do you need to inspect a reusable rocket siryou have sensors and cameras
>>17012981>management says "you must use grok">management then claims engineers like using grok
https://www.theregister.com/science/2026/07/08/ex-nasa-boss-points-out-small-flaw-in-moon-landing-plan-no-lander/5268341
>>17013097>paying attention to jimmy after he departed from nasaayy lmao
>>17013097Big Jim should just keep his big mouth shut
>>17013097THEN WHY DID THEY DECIDE ON "EXTRAORDINARILY COMPLICATED" ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGNS?
>>17013097All of the hot air coming out of his head can contribute to a descent stage engine!
grim
>>17012924Explain how
>>17012993wow yeah benchmarks from the people that make it. I wonder if there's a perverse incentive there
well, at least science can be converted to money.
>>17013097Funny how they omitted that Bridenstine is now a paid lobbyist..
>>17013097This stopped clock is right about one thing: China is likely to land humans on the Moon first. Their architecture is simple and unambitious, similar to Apollo. Can't deliver significant mass to the Lunar surface, can't stay there for very long, but uses no new technology and is entirely within their existing capabilities. Their only goal is a propaganda victory, and they'll have it.Hopefully, like Sputnik in 1957, this will galvanize support for more and superior space projects in the US. The Artemis architecture is already designed for long-term sustainment and optimized for mass-to-Lunar-surface, and this should only increase ambitions and help secure long-term funding.
>>17013136as opposed to unpaid lobbyists that do it for free?
>>17013140Useful idiots? Yes there are plenty of those as well.
>>17013139>China is likely to land humans on the Moon first.Anon I...>Their architecture is simple and unambitiousIt is also a lot farther from being ready than wumao would have you believe.
>>17013134Via industrialization
>>17013154i find that easy to believe. source?
what's the TAM of science?
>>17013164Scamming your audience for youtube superchats and patreon subscriptions
https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/2075013702865014917
>>17013184ok thats just gay
>>17013208I don't know if it's gay but it isn't very good.
>>17013020I really doubt it but at least they really do seem to be trying to get it done sooner rather than later.
>>17013184Well that's obviously going to be rejected since Starbase township doesn't support it
>>17013184Kopernikus Shores
Beetle BeachPlover Playa
Melty Moor
Gulf of America
won't someone think of the poor ocelots?
https://x.com/realhomerhickam/status/2075018732049506485>Sonny Morea, the man behind the F-1 Saturn engines and the Lunar Roving Vehicle has passed. Quite the life he had.
>>17013244Nooo!!! I remember seeing him in moon machines episodes and reading about him in that one rover book.
artemis 4 lander should be named after them
>>17013248I hate minorities and women.
>>17013139>China is likely to land humans on the Moon firsthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11
>>17013252How long have you been out of the closet?
>>17013231Rocket-roasted plovers, $15.99 a plate at Starbase bar
>>17013184change it back to kopernick shores
https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/15051/#media_group_380453
>>17013255>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-cn/%E9%98%BF%E6%B3%A2%E7%BD%9711%E5%8F%B7Article is breddy gud
I spoke to elon for about 20 minutes this morning.
>>17013277>artist’s concept
>>17013287ai chatbot don't count bro
thoughts on Aalo? they went critical
>>17013287what did he smell like?
>>17012875Why are AYLAMOs in my SPEHS thread?
>>17012981>>17012989>>17012993not spehs
Am I the only one finding the concept of Autophage rocket engines to be super whimsical and goofy?It's so cute when compared to huge, overengineered vectors.I would laugh my ass off if the most affordable and clean way into spehs ended up being a big glue gun.
>>17013436The what
>>17013418Ayyslmao live in spehs
>>17013397desperation and froyo
>>17013504Alpha Impulsion, French/Italian company, they're currently experimenting with a ludicrous style of propulsion (Autophage rocket technology) in order to create an SSTO hybrid rocket with the marketing promise of leaving zero debris, because all of the fuselage disappears mid-flight.It's a flying glue gun
>>17013248"Entirely Fictional Nigger Lander"?It's a bit long
>>17013533I've never heard of this, how's it burn through the main rocket while keeping the engine and upperstage/payload connected? Surely it must leave SOME sort of debris, if the whole thing burned up wouldn't the engine just...fall off?
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/07/rocket-developers-used-to-chase-satellite-trends-is-the-inverse-now-true/Soon most sats will be flat packed.
>>17012875
>>17013551/g/ told me flatpaks suck
>>17013551Or in other words, spacex can't into doors.
DOOR STUCK
>HLS lands on moon>astronauts get deployed from pez dispenser
>>17013556>Starship uses a door instead of farings>"SpaceX cannot into doors"Anon I...
>>17013252Thank you for your service>>17013436>>17013533It's gay retard shit. The French government decided to encourage "green" rocketry despite the fact that the space industry represents a negligible fraction of pollution by essentially every measure. These guys had a concept vaguely along those lines, did zero engineering, and got someone to put together a website for them.
Flatpacked astronauts were prophesied by /sfg/
Been somewhat obsessed with globular clusters lately. What's your latest obsession, /sfg/?
>>17013562Thanks, is a poor shop, of about 25 stars repeated, a picture taking over a time lapse and made fractal. I can tell from seeing lots of shops in my time.
>>17013564Can you not see that red star, and know that it's repeated, in Photoshop?
>>17013566It almost makes a cube(evidence of time lapse recording of same position).Truthfully there are 25-30 stars there.GET OUT
schizo hours?
>>17013568I'll leave to this queef. Continue as you are.
I was just trying to share my fascination and got instant schizophrenia as a response. Good start, very nice.Anyways, M2 in particular has my interest right now. Hoping we get to learn more about it in the coming years.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtjYtX9nJMo20 mins
>>17013562>What's your latest obsessionA S C E N D E R
>>17013571I know all the stars in the night sky, off by heart, fluently, named.You need to get your head out of this Photoshop-delusion of trillions upon trillions of stars.
>>17013574then name them all, faggot
>>17013575The ayys are sure going to be embarrassed when they find out that we already named their stars for them and will refuse to use their own names when we meet up. Celsius/Fahrenheit all over again.
>>17013562wh40k after playing space marine 2 (steam summer sale)
>>17013577see >>17013575
>>17013562not now, but I was intensely obsessed with the black hole at the center of our galaxy (Sgr A*) and the stars found orbiting it. I'm also fond of Rho Ophiuchi, since it has some of each type of "nebula" and cluster.
>the first fully reusable LV is going to be a cartoon rocket made out of rolls of steelebin
>>17013581I'm gonna name one "snoopy"
>>17013436What would be the payload to LEyO with a Starship sized autophage rocket?
you think they'll catch their rocket this time?
>>17013562Proxima b. I have planned a fairly detailed worldbuilding project around it but have currently halted it as the confirmation or refutement of Proxima c with the upcoming Gaia DR4 release dictates the terms of the project.
>>17013591Going to bet on no. I expected one of China's to land before BO, but they disappointed me so now I will hold it against them forever.
>starship has (will) launched five times since the last isar spectrum launch
>>17013561Amistad 2
>>17013604>give us us free
>>17013575Star-fag. I'll put in that effort when you stop worshipping NASA's shops.
>>17013608>xe can't name them allSad!
I'm so tired of red dwarfs bro
>>17013572still 20 min away lol
2 more days until China’s LM-10B launch and landing
>>17013629what definition of landing are you using?
STAR FAGS UNITE
Zero chance TRAPPIST-1's planets have any life or are habitable at all, all the data we have points to TRAPPIST-1 being too much of a bipolar schizoid for that
>>17012875 aliom image
>>17013572
>>17013644christcuck
>>17013652WOW FREE BITCOIN!
>>17013572its happening
On July 6th, the China National Space Administration (CNSA) announced that its Tianwen-2 probe has arrived at asteroid 469219 Kamoʻoalewa, a space rock that loops around our planet about once per year.Commie asteroid is bothering me now
>>17013139>China is likely to land humans on the Moon first.Artemis 4 is planned for 2028, China is planning for their landing in 2030. How is it possible for China to land first?
>>17013670Why is the resolution so low?
>>17013671delays in politics and funding for Iran war
>>17013033yes
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2075291102324641925
>>17013687>if we win we winepic
https://breakingdefense.com/2026/07/why-dod-silicon-valley-now-are-betting-on-solar-power-beaming-sats/
>>17013704sounds like a plan to launder tax payer money
>>17013715Sounds like a way to sneak in funding for an orbital laser
>>17013671>Artemis 4 is planned for 2028And it was scheduled for 2024. Then 2025...The plot is a bit out of date, but you get the point. It also doesn't convey that Artemis 3 was going to be the landing, but it was delayed to 4.
hug protocol initiated. lift maneuver imminent.
>>17013704>>17013715This was a fantasy future mod in KSP
>>17013562Globular clusters as a topic has gained a lot of energy recently.There was a lot of interest inn the 90s, when Hubble started. The are very old, but they aren't galaxies are they were difficult to understand how the formed. People initially assumed they formed in one big burst of formation, but several show multiple populations. The topic cooled off because it was unclear where they came from. There are no local galaxies forming these things.But the arrival of JWST has generated a lot of interest. For the first time younger GCs can be seen at cosmological distances, in some cases, with very lensed galaxies. And more recently people have started find very early galaxies which have a lot of nitrogen, as do globular clusters. Some believe that the star forming clumps seen in some of the most distant galaxies may actually be proto-globular clusters. There is also the suggestion that the weird abundances from from supermassive stars, which form for a short time in the core, before collapsing to a black hole. My favorite is M13 in Hercules.
Trees in KSA
>>17013756Already looks better than KSP ever did even with mods. It's the same guy (Blackrack) doing it
>>17013757Linx* not Blackrack. He does clouds and stuff. Terrain is Linx's work.
the ever moving goalpost
https://theins.press/en/inv/294635>Their answer is a three-level escalation ladder. >Level one involves joint legal and diplomatic pressure. Starlink’s satellite density sharply raises the risk of collisions in low orbit, the authors argue, and so Moscow and Beijing should build an international coalition to win regulatory limits on the constellation’s expansion.>Level two seeks to block Starlink’s access to the physical space it needs in order to expand. China and Russia would jointly file for critical frequency bands and orbital slots, using their weight in international regulatory bodies to obstruct the future deployment of Musk’s company. The document explicitly describes this step as a coordinated military countermeasure. Alongside it, the researchers propose a joint electromagnetic-jamming architecture (“power suppression and adaptive interference”) to selectively block Starlink in chosen geographic areas, merging the two countries’ separate anti-satellite programs into a single system with common technical standards and complementary coverage.
>>17013785>Level three entails the physical destruction of Musk’s satellite network. The document proposes starting with cyber war — “access spoofing, virus infection, and the exploitation of vulnerabilities” to push malware through end-user terminals and propagate it across the network, thereby “paralyzing” it. Next comes the elimination of the satellites themselves via “low-cost” one-to-many countermeasures capable of destroying Starlink satellites in orbit — if the constellation’s resilience comes from its numbers, the answer is a weapon cheap enough to knock out satellites faster than SpaceX can launch replacements. The slide doesn’t specify what type of weapon this might be, although it could theoretically consist of a single rocket munition that disburses clouds of high-density projectiles such as ball bearings, if not a single launch vehicle that releases hundreds of low-cost, shoebox-sized CubeSats, which could ram into Starlink satellites. The accompanying image on this action item simply shows a host of satellites shattered into hunks of floating space debris in low-Earth orbit.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2075327054942232713https://www.spacex.com/spacexai/starmind
>>17013785we're already at stage 3...
>>17013592The starlight of Proxima is nowhere near that red
>>17013789
https://x.com/TurkeyBeaver/status/2075344118734012687
>>17013795where's the top floor bar?
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2075353490713432440
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2075351454982836389>Super heavy booster 20 being lifted onto Starbase pad 2 for static fire testing ahead of Starship test flight 13.
>>17013802its starting to look professional
Elon say my name.
>>17013816Ares
>>17013816Arse
>>17013816proxima b
>>17013816Cars
>>17013816Isuzu Mysterious Utility
>>17013816Arrakis
>>17013816dunc
>>17013816the red planet
>>17013816Marte, el planeta rojo.
chink launchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOT4CBR6ryg
>>17013762>payload is "trust me bro"idk man, that seems unchanged since a decade ago
>>17013896is this the one they are trying to catch in a cat's-cradle of cables? or is it just a Falcon 9 clone with legs?
>>17013904Cables. Should be entertaining.
2 minute warning
scrub or hold?
was that a countdown and nothing happened?
LUNCH
ok where is the landing cam
>>17013917We likely need to wait another hour for official confirmation
That was pretty damn slow, 10B has a low t/w huh.
sources are saying it has landed
>>17013921please god
>>17013921to be precise, CCTV has reported that it was successfully caught by the wires. Can't wait for the footage!
>>17013921Congrats on China for being 12 years behind America. Too bad Starship is already fully operational, maybe in another 12 years they can have their own Starship clone as well.
>>17013926>the seething has already begun
>>17013929No one here is seething, the fact is that china is still decades behind America, and that at the rate that China is collapsing, they will likely never ever catch up before complete state failure
china is now officially the THIRD organization to catch a booster>euros MAD>russians SEETHING>japanese MALDING>americans unbothered, focused, flourishing
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/2075439491779789173
>>17013935tai hao le
>>17013934Didn't Electron technically have 1 catch before they abandoned it or was attempt?
actually impressive. no legs is the way to go
>>17013926>Too bad Starship is already fully operationalhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>17013943How much of a weight savings the hooks provide vs landing legs?>>17013944Looks like they need more thermal protection for the interstage. Good thing that the first rocket will be completely torn down for inspection anyway, because it 100% won't be fit for flying without a major refit
>>17013944cool
>>17013944>Caught on first attemptWhitey mogged. Genuinely implessive.
>>17013948oh, a couple tons I'd bet. Then since the 1st stage is lighter overall, you get secondary mass/fuel efficiency savings. just like SH
>>17013926>USA payload to orbit 12 years ago>88 metric tons>China payload to orbit 2025>315 metric tons Even if China is 12 years behind USA in rocket technology, they scale much better
There's some cool pics on the secret chinese forum
>the superior cable catch has been demonstrated>trillions must adopt Thousand Sails
I remember watching the higher and higher dragonfly hops. Hell before that I remember watching Armadillo Aerospace do shit.Oldfags probably remember DC-X.We've both come a long way, and haven't.
>>17013791CGI.
>>17013970seems about half the descent rate of F9 once it is under thrust?
Got 5.6 got released. Has anyone a hard spaceflight related question that LLM can't answer but spaceflight experts can?
>>17013940yeah whatever happened with that?I know they did pull some engines off it and re-flew them.also, of the various rockets in development right now with 1st stage re-use, all of the leggy ones seem kinda stupid now that SH and CZ10B are showing how adults do it
ZQ‑3 is next in a week or two. Then the CZ-12A/B and the CZ-10A in a few months. Too bad that the private competition have basically all fallen off, to be expected given how new and immature they all are and their lack of resources, but I hope that the state agencies don't crush all of them and give them space to grow. >>17013972It's their first landing, they're gonna to play it 1000% safe.
>>17013973I still don't know what to do with them besides coding.I have access to Sol, but I'm not a lawyer, I'm not a doctor, so idk the super reasoning is whatever.
>>17013973Can it respond to >>16995296 ?
>>17013973who is the human that is puppeting clear?
What payload did they send to space
ULAbros it's fucking over. Even Chang mogs Vulcan now
>>17013978>>17013980It can't answer those but neither can a space expert.
>>17013987OBSERVATION
>>17013970>>17013944horey shetWe must obliterate the CCP with haste
>>17013973How many Starships to send 100 tons payload to Pluto?
>>17013988
>>17013140Yes, those exist. Paid lobbyists are careerists who subsist off the lobbying system itself and are able to influence through their presence and various gratuities. Unpaid lobbyists can't do that. They are functionally what you would envision as a petitioner.
>>17013990China just tested its submarine launched nuclear capable ICBM a few days ago into the southern Pacific, completing its operational nuclear triad
>>17013970Pathetically slow, like the NG landings. SpaceX still king.
>>17013944I remember the wire-catch meme from 6+ years ago
>>17013994Imagine not even having a nuclear pentad
Hover landings are gay
>>17013787Plenty of opportunities to become a space trashman as geopolitical tensions pull us into the Planetes timeline
spacex paved the way. they crawled so your faves could run. they owe spacex everything.
>>1701392612 years ago China didn't even have a cryogenic rocket. I'm not joking, look it up.
>One day people will wake up and realise China is more than copying US tech. They are innovating and scaling it massively. USA is paying the risk tax.there's so many china glazers on reddit. pretty sure this doesnt count as innovation or scaling.
>>17013944Did it make a cartoonish>byoyooooinggggsound?
literally just copying a redditors homework
>>17014008yes, China shows you can just do things instead of posting about it on reddit
high resolution
another angle
>>17013991/sfg/ is this true?
26 landings in 2026, eh, Xi?
>>17014021How would it push?
>>17014022this is China's first reusable rocket but not even the only one they'll successfully test this yearZhuque 3 from landspace is up for retry end of july
>>17014023Just mate and thrust.
>>17013704>DoD
>>17013944>Spacex is finishedMuskrats on suicide watch.
>>17014028S... Shibari rocket
>>17014018Damn this was soooooooo clean, vgh, sexo. Compare this to the first few dozen Falcon 9s hooning in and blowing up or barely fucking making it. The stars belong to the yellow man now.
>>17014047F9 suicide burn landing is way more impressive
>>17014008I choose to believe that this was a psyop to bait China into building this, like Buran with the Shuttle.>>17014028>>17014040Now draw her stuck and tangled in the wires
>>17014055>psyop a chinaman into building a thing thinking it will waste his resources and achieve nothing>chinaman looks at it and goes "oh cool idea" and runs with it>smashing successThis has happened so many times in chinese history KEK
>>17014018Are the fin hydraulics burning or what? It's smoking like a motherfucker.
>>17013704B-but Casey Handjob told me that was impossible!!
Europe will get their F9 clone around 2028, Russia by 2030 and India around 2032
>>17013970Very slow but it's their first landing and it makes sense they just wanted to nail it.They need to optimize the maneuver in the future or the payload would be small.
>>17014069He never said impossible, just pointed out reasons about why it is so expensive and unlikely to be competitive with earth based solutions.
>>17014069He has been talking about powering a moon base with beamed power. So obviously he isn't dismissing the general concept out of hand.Powering remote places where fuel has to be transported in trough potentially hazardous long routes with inefficient means is not the baseline scenario for space based solar power.Would be interesting to know if it is even close to making sense for powering Amundsen-Scott station that gets overland supplies over a thousand mile route.
I saw this on the /sfg/ discord.
Now that China is done who's next? I'm gonna guess, Russia followed by Europe followed by India followed by SK followed by Japan, with a 5 year gap between them
>>17014114I hate it
>>17014118Russia is due for collapse, they are winning the war but their economy will break thanks to drone strikes on industrial facilities before they can bleed ukraine dry. Their space industry was already shit before the three day special military operation and is now extra extra shit.Europe will never do anything unless they can remove their EU rothschild red tape overlords.India is useless, their space program is vanity project built on foreign tech and many launch ""successes"" are dubious as to whether they actually achieved their goals or just said yes very good success saar scamming for jugaad points, also India is due for environmental collapse due to mass pollution of the entire subcontinent.SK and Japan are the only real candidates here but I have my doubts about both.
>chinese reusable coal powered boosterwas not on my bingo
>>17014073The Russians haven't even funded the Soyuz 7 and are still wasting funding with Soyuz 5 and Angara. Also, that autistic habit of naming equipment and missions Soyuz...
>>17014130Russia is nowhere close to collapse and they are winning on the actual battlefield, their rockets technology is also extremely good, only 2nd to America.
>>17014085I know how, just close the station lmao
>>17014130>mass pollution of the entire subcontinent.Do elaborate please. I’m to assume you don’t just mean poop. Unless it’s of a quantity that’s… no… surely not….
>>17014135are ziggers this deluded or this a poor troll?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0wyCwyeT3s
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180178930A1/en
>>17014085current electricity cost at pole is ~$2/kwh, it's insane.
>>17014146so the wire thing was a patent from BO in 2017
>>17014151not a big market though
>>17013931>"collapsing" state>doing better than Russia, China, Japan and whole of EuropeWhy are burgers so delusional?
>>17014152they also tried patenting, and suing, spacex over barge landings.I wouldn't put much weight to blue patents.
>>17014152IIRC they claimed patents on all the reuse methods so no one else can use them, which was why SpaceX had a melty.
>>17014154oops, meant to write India instead of China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2J32LafMsM
>>17014142>another suborbital flightI'm tired, boss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2J32LafMsM>SpaceX conducts Booster 20 testing on Pad 2
>>17014140Russia is in the doorstep of the fortness belt as we speak, the only reason why Ukraine is suddenly attacking Russian civilian infrastructure is because they can badly losing in the actual battlefield
>>17014163>this is what hivans believelmao
According to a Chinese commentator who claims he worked for CASC but now lives in Singapore because he hates the CCP (face blurred to protect him): the net method allows for a greater margin of error but is technologically inferiror to chopsticks and they have to go the way of chopsticks to achieve truly high cadence because it is the only method that can be integrated with the launch tower.
>>17013940Electron wasn't a propulsive landing so its in the same category as the Shuttle.
>>17013958China did not put 315 tons into orbit in 2025z
>>17014179I mean it's obvious that it's inferior and at that point it makes me wonder if just going with legs wouldn't be better as it would be way more flexible.
>>17013940they attempted an Electron helicopter catch, and I think they even hooked it? However, it became an unstable pendulum and they had to quickly release it again. They never made another reuse attempt, instead going for Neutron development.
>>17014183Not having to check the landing legs and actuator struts every time is basically the key advantage. He explains that it is actually because the YF-100 engine is not that precise particularly on variable thrust and gimbaling so the net makes sense here.
>>17014185You still need to check cables everytime and I doubt cables are very good at being reusable.
