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ITT: Got a question for the opposite gender? Ask away!

Previous thread: >>34056344
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>>34143691
What are your thoughts on American Beauty
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>>34143691

Query for girls:
- do you enjoy getting eaten out (cunnilingus)? If yes what do you like about or if not what you don't like about it?
- do you like kissing and/or being kissed on your body? If yes what do you like about or if not what you don't like about it?
- how important or unimportant is being penetrated during sex for you? Can you easily orgasm without any penetration whatsover or do you need to be stretched/filled? If yes, why?
- how important is skinship to you? Do you enjoy taking showers/baths with you significant other? Sleep naked with them?

For extra naughty girls:
- what the hell is the appeal of pegging a guy? It's just using a dildo on him with extra steps! Is it the hands-free feature, the pseudo-sodomy, the reversal of roles?
- if you consume homoerotica (male) of any kind is it because of the beefcake visuals or something else?
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>>34144716
Query for girls:
>- do you enjoy getting eaten out (cunnilingus)? If yes what do you like about or if not what you don't like about it?
Never had it done on me. I’ve only ever been with two people sexually, and one had sexual trauma so he doesn’t go down on people. Other one was a short lived relationship so it just never happened. I’m fine with that, I honestly get a bit squigged out at the idea now of someone down there with their tongue.

>- do you like kissing and/or being kissed on your body? If yes what do you like about or if not what you don't like about it?
Totally! Kisses are so sweet, and extra fun when they’re sexual or leaning that way. I love kissing when I have a boyfriend, it’s so sweet, fun, and it makes both me and him happy. I’m told I’m a good kisser too! As for kisses elsewhere, oh you bet. I love down the neck or boobs, if he starts sucking on them while he’s at it? Even better.

>- how important or unimportant is being penetrated during sex for you? Can you easily orgasm without any penetration whatsover or do you need to be stretched/filled? If yes, why?
All I really know so yes, VERY important, but I don’t think I’ve ever orgasmed before.

>- how important is skinship to you? Do you enjoy taking showers/baths with you significant other? Sleep naked with them?
Never heard it called that but very. Touch is either my primary or secondary love language, I need it. I had an ex who was anti PDA, which was really hard for me. He’d scold me if I did anything more than handholding in public, not even hugs. Drove me nuts. Showers/baths with an SO are romantic and sensual, and sleeping together like that is great and almost guarantees sex will happen, before bed or in the morning after.

Hope that helps.
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>>34145259
>and one had sexual trauma so he doesn’t go down on people
You experienced the most polite way to say that the pussy stinks.
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>>34145283
sexual trauma is not a joke
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>>34145283
No, definitely not the case. He went into detail about the nature of his trauma, which was later corroborated by a childhood friend of his, and he had told me about the trauma before we did anything sexual so I could be aware.

Nice try.
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>>34143691
Women what swimwear do you like to wear?
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>>34147439
Even if I had a better bod, not a bikini. That’s just asking for trouble. One pieces are underrated, tankini and boy shorts work too.
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>>34147439
None, I purposefully haven't gone swimming since puberty
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>>34147439
sports bra and biker shorts
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>>34147439
big tshirt and shorts
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>>34144716
Touching my clit gets me off, penetration I can take it or leave it
I don't like being touched outside of sex
I don't like kissing at all
Pegging is hot because I like dominating guys, even better if he's hesitant
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>women pretending to be dominant
lmao
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>>34149146
You're just asking for my fist in your ass
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>>34149153
You'd get folded in half immediately if you tried.
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>>34149158
Not if you're roofied
I bet you never watch your drink around women
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>>34149162
Wrong. And if you somehow did manage to do this you better kill me after you're done, because one of us is going to end up dead.
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hey, if the girl from blue /atoga/ is here:
K1y4Qp4NBPnbNTjW22Pnsj6cSuRQlYp@proton.me
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Femanon, pls post areola
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Do women actually like sex or is it just a tool to get men to do what they want?
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>>34147859
>That’s just asking for trouble.
I live in California and 99% of women at the beach wear a bikini.
>>34147899
Why not?
>>34149043
>big tshirt
Ho do you swim in that?
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>>34149974
yes
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>>34149974
What if the women want sex and and use it to get what they want?
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>>34143691
Is it normal for every guy you talk to to have an air of aloofness/disinterest and feeling confused by them? Does that just mean I'm really ugly and they don't really like me?
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>>34150887
We have to do that. If we don't, we open ourselves up to being accused of being a creep.
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>>34150981
What if I'm the creepy one
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>>34150993
Women basically can't be creepy. Not saying it can never happen, but you have to try really hard. For most men though, that's just the default.
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>>34151016
it was kind of a joke, but what if I want and like that energy from a guy?
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>>34151025
No guy is ever going to believe that. Not for a second.
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>>34151034
?!?! That's like, the only way I can know for certain a guy likes me.
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>>34151036
Sorry lady. I don't make the rules.
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>>34151071
Lame. I'm never dating again
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>>34151076
Same.
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>>34150372
So do I but I still don’t
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>>34151016
I think I came close.
>See a cute guy recommended to me on Facebook back when I had it.
>Peruse his interests, he’s into TTRPGs and one of the systems I know.
>Check local Meetups for said system. >Jackpot
>Join Meetup
>Invited to Discord server
>Ask a few innocuous questions for a day
>Casually ask about said guy
>Say he hadn’t been active in a long time and point me to his username
>Fuck me
>Go back to Facebook
>Build up the courage to message him
>Next day
>Profile removed or blocked
>RIP

I think I’m the only woman I know who’s done this
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>>34151432
Yeah you have me beat, I'm impressed
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>>34151432
That's probably further than most women would go, but that's not even close to creepy. Unless he's an ex or he's rejected you in the past, this most likely would not have bothered him at all.
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Not a gender-specific question, but do people actually work 40+ years without ending it all? I’m a year into the professional world - I have, quite frankly, a very easy job - and I want to kill myself at least 3/4 of the time I’m clocked in.
>>34143691
>do you enjoy getting eaten out?
Yeah. I almost exclusively get off on clitoral stimulation, so it’s nice to have that be the primary focus. I get overstimulated easily and something in my stupid animal brain is scared of cumming, but if I can chill the hell out it’s great.
>do you like kissing and/or being kissed on your body?
I hate anything more than pecks on the mouth. Tongues are gross and feel weird, I never know what I’m supposed to do. I do, however, like body kisses. I like being able to pull my partner close and give him a kiss on the shoulder or something. It feels like there’s no obligation, just saying that I love and appreciate them.
I also had a tendency to kiss my ex’s dick before head, which he thought was weird. :(
>how important or unimportant is being penetrated during sex for you?
I would love to be able to say I enjoy it - it’s something I like thinking and reading about - but every time I have attempted penetration with something wider in width than a sharpie, it has been agonizing. I’ve never cum from it. At this point I’m holding out for someone who is either asexual or has a micropenis.
>how important is skinship to you?
Extremely. Best part of being in a relationship, imo.
>what the hell is the appeal of pegging a guy?
I have crazy penis envy and getting to bend a cute guy over and make him whine on my “dick” helps.
I have a permanant tab open about some dude’s prosthetic cock research. God willing, I will fill a cute boy with my cum someday.
>if you consume homoerotica (male) of any kind is it because of the beefcake visuals or something else?
I like everything from bara to traps. Gay shit makes it easier to distance myself from the characters.
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>>34154372
historically men had a reason to work. to provide and care for his family, a 'purpose'. because that's been denied to most men now they're mostly working "because I'm supposed to" which leads to the chronic depression widespread amongst younger males.
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>>34154372
having a fulfilling job helps, one where ur directly helping ppl, also an infinite skill ceiling requiring lifelong learning keeps things busy. but at the end of the day it’s a job and it’s really stressful at times and id rather not have to work but I don’t want to be financially dependent on a man so i do what I gotta do and show up. i don’t love it but I don’t wanna kill myself over it (most days). If I was an uber driver or coal miner or something line that I’d prob off myself tho cause that shit is so tedious
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she is gonna come back any minute now right?
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>>34150887
In the post #MeToo era, you basically can't make any moves on a woman unless you've confirmed 100% without a shadow of a doubt that she likes you. Otherwise she might decide to accuse you of rape and fuck up your life.
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>>34157667
sorry bro. she's probable gone forever.
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>>34159327
many such cases in my sad chuddy life
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>>34157667
Why not just message or add her back?
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>>34159679
done all this, for all i know she could be dead
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>>34158171
unless you're chad, then you can do anything you want. sexual harassment laws really only exist to shield women from sub-8 men.
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>>34160375
Is /r9k/ leaking?
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>>34149165
>thinks he can kill a woman while roofied
calm down chuddy, no need to try to cope.
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>>34164663
I said after she's done. Not surprising that simps are also illiterate.
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Question for femanons:

If you had a daughter and you found out she was doing slutty stuff, would you reprimand her? Or would you help her hide it from daddy?

36 m us here
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>>34164742
worthless piss of trash of a wife if she did
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Question for girls:
where the fuck do you expect to meet guys? I basically cannot find any place where women under 40 exist, can't even get rejected because there are no women in hobby groups or elsewhere. Except on dating apps, but I don't want to date a whore that's been with hundreds of men.

>>34151432
I'd be flattered if that happened to me, still not creepy because you are a woman (unless you are a 1-2/10 or something)
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>>34165932
A woman like this wouldn't be posting on 4chan
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>>34164736
I don't see why someone who went through the effort of drugging you would stay after they're done. so it's still a moot point. also nice further cope on the simp part, because some rando posting on a random fucking thread is totally doing it because women, right? yeah, sure buddy.
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>>34143691
Women, what sexual encounters have you had with another woman?
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>>34167796
She's not gonna fuck you, bro. Not even if she's the one doing the fucking, as much as you might want that.
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>>34154372
>do people actually work 40+ years without ending it all
seemingly so but I never stay in a job for longer than a few months for said reason
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>>34168233
did she reject you or something? I'm not sure why you're projecting this hard unless it's personal. maybe want therapy if all you can think about is who wants to fuck who and how other people must feel that way. is it a cuck holding thing for you? I'
m sorry I can't relate to that type of mental illness to the point of thinking about simping for women the way you do.
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>>34170729
You don't think about things before you do them? Wow. Not very smart.
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>>34170799
where did you even get that from? damn nigga you really are retarded.
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>>34171247
>can't relate to thinking about simping (implying you've never done it)
>simp anyway
This is literally third grade reading comprehension and you still don't get it.
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>>34171255
yeah because agreeing with an implied woman isn't simping. if you had common sense, someone claiming they are a woman means nothing because this board is filled with troons in the first place, so if that was my goal I certainly wouldn't be trying here. I think the person who doesn't think much is you. I commented because I thought you were a fucking moron, not because I cared what that other person thought, and this just proves that. I'm sorry you can't conceptualize anything beyond hypothetical female attention, but projecting that doesn't change the fact it's clearly the only thought going on in your head.
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>>34172118
You were acting like the meme of the bartender. Absolutely begging for female attention. Simp.
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Femanons:
I was on a first date with a girl and we were holding hands on a park bench. She went to rest her head on my shoulder but then stopped herself. I wanted to make a cute comment that she could rest her head there but wasn't sure if it was like rude to point it out. If I had said "No, it's ok. You can put your head there." Would that have been ok? I want to preface this is less of "I'm overthinking about this girl" and more "I'm autistic and don't know if socially that is acceptable on a date."
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As a gay man, I can't get over the idea that the thought of someone dating one of you sounds like it would be difficult. How do I get over the notion that all women are hysterical or ruled by their emotions? Don't get me wrong: gay men can be like that, but the chances of a woman being a crazy bitch vs a man being a crazy bitch (gay or straight) are a little skewed.
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>>34144716
>- do you enjoy getting eaten out? If yes what do you like about or if not what you don't like about it?
Yes, but I hesitate sometimes because I get worried about how I taste even though I take my pussy probiotics and all that. I’ve never had any complaints though and most of the time it was my sexual partner’s idea.

>- do you like kissing and/or being kissed on your body? If yes what do you like about or if not what you don't like about it?
If I had to pick between kissing or cuddling, I would pick cuddling. Don’t get me wrong, I still like kissing. But touching or groping is just as effective on me.

>- how important or unimportant is being penetrated during sex for you? Can you easily orgasm without any penetration whatsover? If yes, why?
It certainly makes it more enjoyable but I have to rub my clit to orgasm anyways. So I don’t “need” it ig

>- how important is skinship to you? Do you enjoy taking showers/baths with you significant other? Sleep naked with them?
I like it. Taking showers together is fun but it always leads to sex at the end. Cuddling while sleeping, either naked or clothed is always awesome.

>For extra naughty girls:
okay I believe this applies to me
>- what the hell is the appeal of pegging a guy? It's just using a dildo on him with extra steps! Is it the hands-free feature, the pseudo-sodomy, the reversal of roles?
I haven’t gotten the chance to peg but I have plenty of rimming experience, and a finger in the ass during a blowjob never hurt anybody. I do enjoy the idea of being more dominant. So I guess power dynamics.

>- if you consume homoerotica (male) of any kind is it because of the beefcake visuals or something else?
I do sometimes, I consider myself bi/pan because I don’t really care about the genders or parts of people in the porn I watch. Good sex is good sex and that’s good enough for me. Not really into the beefcake visuals. I prefer softer looking men
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Looking to chat with a cute cis female or femboy, trap, pre-op MtF trans

Not even necessarily looking for anything sexual we can just chill as friends then if more happens then cool but there's no pressure!

I'm tall, bearded, handsome (so I've been told), masculine, pretty built up yet not fat and can actually hold a conversation. I'm pretty chill and easy going with whatever.
If you're interested then add me

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>>34154372
>do people actually work 40+ years without ending it all?
Only if they're a financially illiterate NPC. If you can spare a weekend to learn basic bitch investing knowledge, and possess the discipline to set aside a couple hundred a month to invest, then you can be in a position to retire in 20 years or less, easily. Certainly no more than 30 years; the only reason to still be working after 30 years is because you find purpose, reward, and joy in your work.

>>34163695
He's not wrong, though.

>>34169969
Smart; no real reason to stay at a job more than two years.
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M 22 here i just wanna know from that real femanons out there, what would u consider as a big white dick ;)

Please be honest and answer with more then just a number

Ty all for answering have a great day
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>>34154372
>God willing, I will fill a cute boy with my cum someday.
Unironically pushed me over the edge and made me cum. This is gonna happen btw, some research into how anatomy emerges from individual cells makes me think actual girls with actual dicks will be possible this century.

t. Submissive failure daydreamer
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>>34154372
Also funnily enough I don't like tongue kissing either and ideally I'd be the bottom 100% of the time (so no penetration). I really like physical closeness and cuddling too. Too bad I'm an ogre.
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Why do females complain about the orgasm gap and men not knowing what a clitoris is, but then insist on the sort of sex that is way less likely to stimulate a clitoris effectively, and insist on going for the type of men who are far more likely to only care about getting themselves off?

Do females just not actually like sex at all and just pretend they care about it as a way to browbeat men?
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>>34174734
Please help an autist out.
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>>34174734
Dude yeah you definitely should've said something
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>>34179242
This is obviously a pornbot but that pussy looks wretched. I thought it was a ballsack at first.
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>>34179253
Agreed, even from just the thumbnail I could tell that thing looked like someone tried to carve a turkey with a power drill.
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>>34178805
I guess I wasn't sure if it was rude to point it out or not
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Do girls actually masturbate for pleasure or do they just do it on camera for money?
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>>34149541
>Not a single femanon posted areola
:(
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>>34147913
that hotter than lingerie
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>>34151036
just ask him out. Tell him "its okay to say no but would you date me?" then don't make it weird if he says no.
definitely don't ask why if he says no.

Alternatively, you can just write your number down and hand it to him, tell him you're interested, then walk away. Put the ball in their court and don't hover
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>>34181750
Not the thread for that
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>>34182893
This thread exists specifically for people from /atoga/ to be able to post NSFW stuff.
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Bump
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>>34175915
I was with a guy who was 7 & 1/2 inches, that was pretty big. But he had a thick cock too and I think that makes a difference. Length isn’t everything. I prefer a more proportional penis

>>34178719
Every time I’ve had sex I’ve stimulated my clit until I cum. No complaints from either party there. If we’re having sex in a position that makes it hard for me to reach my clit, then I’ll enjoy the penetration as is and we’ll switch to another position later so I can cum. I do enjoy sex and I enjoy orgasming. If the dude gets to nut then I don’t see why I shouldn’t

>>34181415
I masturbate, on average, three times a day and I don’t have the time or energy to upload every single nut I bust onto the internet. Wish I did because maybe I wouldn’t be as broke
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>>34184437
>Three times a day
Holy shit is this normal for women or are you just a turbogoonette?
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>>34184451
When I’m depressed I masturbate more. I’m currently more depressed than usual so yes, 3x a day is pretty normal for me. Idk about other women but I would say a good majority probably masturbate more than you would think. My record is 15 times in one day but I was having a competition with my friend. I don’t recommend it
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>>34184623
Relatable, especially when not stimulated via other means. Also I find that cumming more often over a period fo time ( say a week) increases the want to do it more. That being said, I find things have slowed down now that I'm in my eary thirties. Teens and twenties was a massacre. M btw
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Question for femanons and anons alike,
How far and how much humor is too much?

I’ve been single for almost a year now so I think I’m recovered from my previous relationship and ready to jump back into the dating pool, however, even with my advantage of being female, I am incredibly awkward and a bit spergy. I have often found myself accidentally pushing things too far humor wise. For example, the time I used my 9/11 truther pickup line got me blocked from the guy’s Facebook. Another time a guy on a dating app said “Ask me the crazy questions” so I asked him why Jedi aren’t naked in the afterlife and he immediately unmatched me. Tons of examples abound, but those two are off the top of my head.

I also have the issue of being very weird once I’m aware I like someone. I either avoid them completely while glancing at them secretly, do awkward things, or just outright confess, to mixed results.

I’m dreading getting back on the apps, because fuck me how else are you supposed to meet people? Anyways, any advice on how to help a long time 4chan female figure it out would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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>>34184639
Yeah that makes sense! When I’m depressed I’m usually at home more often and I get bored easily. For me it’s just a way to pass time and get a quick dopamine rush. I have the advantage of being able to cum pretty quickly compared to a lot of women so it really doesn’t take a lot of time out of my day.
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>>34184646
M here: Try to avoid opening with a joke. Then as you get to know the person and the conversation goes on, probe different levels of humour. Adjust how you talk to them depending on the reaction. Don't jump into 9/11 jokes, because even if they did find them funny, using that as an opener can be seen as weird.

Don't try too hard, just have a conversation. Same thing on your other issue. You become hyper-aware that you like someone and then it's like saying "you're now awre of your breathing" and then it becomes robotic. Just go with the flow. I know it's easier said than done, but that's the best course of action. As a girl you have many more options so no point in worrying about a fail state. You sound young, you'll feel more confident with experience and age.
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>>34184656
I feel ya. Even when I've been in a relationship, sometimes you just wanna do it yourself. You're not feeling like having sex as much as the pure physical sensation and rush. As a guy, sex comes with stuff like aftercare for the other person etc and sometimes you just wanna cum lol. Plus, after the first few times there is less to clean up which is a plus.
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>>34184667
Oh, didn’t jump right in with the 9/11 jokes, this was a guy I knew for a while albeit through friends who had a history of prancing him (which sometimes I participated in) possibly why he blocked me at that point.

Thanks for the tips, Anon, much obliged.
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Femanons. We all know guys stare at women's boobs everyday. But do you ever look for a guy's buldge in public? At a store, walking down the street, whatever,

Do you ever look to see if he's packing?
Do you think you can tell if a guy is big or not just from glancing at his crotch?
If you are looking at crotches, does this mean you are interested/attracted to that man?
If you can see the outline of a dick through pants, does it turn you on?
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>>34143691
women thoughts on this music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU14KcypvV8
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>>34184623
>>34184639
Is it just normal for women to masturbate multiple times in a day? As a guy whenever I nut I usually get so tired I have to sleep it off. And I think jerking off that much would rub my dick raw. I'd be a dermatological marvel
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>>34175932
>>34175937
Happy to help, anon. If it's any consolation, last time I got rated (that I was aware of) I was a solid 2. Wishing you luck finding a sweet domme.
>>34156227
That makes sense. I have pretty good interactions with my customers, but I don't feel like I'm really doing anything for the world as a whole, and I'm not using my education whatsoever. May be time to look elsewhere - appreciate your insight.
>>34175618
Any recommendations for resources to get started? I have very low expenses at the moment, so I imagine now's the time to go wild.
>>34180743
I would have thought it was really cute. No chance of coming off as rude with it so long as your tone isn't demeaning.
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>>34184756
do you live in the dominican republic? you really shouldn't be able to look at guys' dick bulges unless they're all gay and wearing skinny jeans
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>>34185792
I don’t really have much of a refractory period. I think that’s true for a lot of women compared to men. When I was a teenager I used to masturbate 2 or 3 times in a row. Now I just do it 3x a day throughout the day. Although when I have sex it’s usually just one round. Because most of the sex I’ve had lasts 30 minutes or longer, then after we nut we’re both dead tired

>>34184756
Not really, not that often. Most of the time you can’t see it. I have a friend who often wears basketball shorts around me and I can see his dick print. Idk if he’s free balling or what. It doesn’t rabidly turn me on but I do like him, I’m pretty sure he likes me too but he has a girlfriend and I’m not a homewrecker. So I try not to look
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>>34185792
I can't speak from firsthand (kek) experience regarding women, but seems so. As a guy myself, depending on mood, if I'm bored or not, life etc. I defo can and do go more than once a day. 2 would be fairly normal and 3 would be high. That being said I tend to go more rounds when having sex, especially when with someone new.
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>>34187414
In my experience girls need just a bit of space after cumming, especially if the clit was the focus and are good to go fairly shortly after.
You sound interesting, wanna add me on Disc?
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>>34143691
Anyone ever fuck a woman taller than them? Its so much fun, especially if you can fold them a little
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>>34184667
>he can't rizz a girl with bionicles lore and holocaust jokes
ngmi
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Femanons:
Thoughts on someone who has a lot of physical media? I have a lot of blu-rays, comics (floppies and trades/omnibuses), books, video games, and action figures. Is that like, a turn off? They're all my interests, so I'm curious what the view on that was.
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>>34184646
Your humor is excellent.
Ignore the horrid normies.

I want to hear your 9/11 pickup line
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>>34184646
>>34184646
Fellow femanon here. Never change yourself for someone else. The right guy will appreciate and understand your sense of humor.

Also, sometimes I think men are intimidated by funny/smart women, and it sounds like you're both, and probably pretty too, on top of that. You always hear the cope of "women aren't funny" but that's just not possible with 4 billion women on earth, they just don't want women to be funnier or capable because that means they're less easier to control. Those men are doing you a favor by weeding themselves out after not being able to take a joke. You will find the right guy nona!
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>>34175618
I'm finacialy illiterate, I'm saving/investing 1k a month. I don't have a house. I literaly get anxious when normies "talk" about money and what they say sounds insane and even less literate.

How do I get on track?
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>>34178719
The shitty sex partners I've been with were both perfect gentlemen in the honeymoon phase, always making me come several times before even considering putting it in. It's 2-5 years in when the
>ugh, foreplay? again? i'm gonna roll my eyes the whole time. are you ready? can i put it in yet? how about now?
>what do you mean you haven't orgasmed in 4 months, is it really that important, can't we just fuck
starts.

>>34184756
I stare at people's boobs and crotches a lot because I'm a serial eye contact dodger. I occasionally see more volume there but it isn't arousing or attractive to me, what I usually feel is secondhand embarrassment over ill-fitting clothing.
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>>34194002
it's a good thing. i collect cd's and lp's. and my crush apparently has a tape collection which i find attractive (good genre and many rares)
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>>34184756
i don't think i've ever once in my life looked at a guy's crotch unless i'm actually already dating him. i think looking at genitals thru clothes is more of a male thing. but i don't like eye contact either lol
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Why do women hate my face and why have I never been able to even get a date
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>>34194254
As a dude, I can tell you right now the whole "intimidated" schtick is complete and total rubbish. Y'all mistake annoyance with intimidation. Remember, you are not a man - maybe instead of imagining what a man SHOULD appreciate - ask us what we, in fact, DO appreciate. And listen! You might actually learn something. But what do I know about men? Only been one several decades. There are funny women - 3. Sorry, 2...one passed away. There are 2 funny women. They are being held in captivity to be studied.
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>>34184646
From a dude's perspective, you have a great sense of humor those two dudes were probably just clueless. Never change who you are when you're dating, always be yourself and you'll eventually find someone you can just BE yourself around. Never try and get with someone who makes you change what your normal personality is, it's one thing to act different on the first couple of dates but you should always feel comfortable around who you date. Honestly, you have to meet people by exploring communities in your hobby, or try fishing here like everyone else, you might find at least one person who isn't insufferable. Wishing you luck, you seem like a pretty cool person, so just keep trying!
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>>34184646
This >>34194650 is likely the type of guy you had the misfortune of dating. Remember that some people unironically think like this and then make /you/ feel like the problem. It is always a favor when they leave you alone. Don't let it impact your self-worth.
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>>34194646
>Brandon posting in the year 2025
holy shit
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Femanons:
How for real are you when you tell a guy about his performance in bed? Last year, I had a summer fling that I met up with a lot. We were talking like a week ago and she told me she missed me and the conversation got steamy. I asked her if I was one of the best she's had and she responded with yes and then "probably the best, ngl." I assume since it's been a year, she's being legit?
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>>34195072
Why would more time make her more honest? Or more accurate?
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>>34195072
>she told me she missed me and the conversation got steamy
you should have realized it here desu
t. male
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>>34195105
I know, but like, idk, sometimes my anxiety makes me feel people are fucking with me.
>>34195076
Distance (she's from a different country and was just doing a summer program), and time away from each other, I guess.
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>>34184646
>any advice on how to help a long time 4chan female figure it out would be much appreciated.
Date me
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>>34194242
Oh hey, yeah, lol, I’ll drop it.
So the guy I was interested in kinda was the victim of trolling by his friends who enlisted me to do some very light trolling (like one time I made him a pie graph of everything he hates and gave it percentages). Anyways, I got to talking to him and ended up liking him but decided to be a sperg and just keep trolling him because I’m a retard. The final straw was when I posted on his Facebook wall on 9/11 and I said: “Jet fuel can’t melt steel beams, but you melt my heart.” So yeah, he blocked me and now avoids me like the plague the last few times I’ve seen him. :(

>>34194254
Thanks girl, I’m hoping I do. I know I’m awkward and weird, but so are other guys. I think Dr. Seus once said that people be mutually weird with each other and call it love, that’s stuck with me.

>>34194684
Fishing might be cool! Kind of in an area where water is scarce but I can try. Any you recommend? I already do need shit like TRRPGs, and some vidya a bit competitively, but need to branch out.

>>34195221
Nah, been burned already on here.
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>>34195296
Your 9/11 pickup line is great

>Nah
Ok no problem.
I genuinely appreciate getting an answer.
Better than being ghosted, thanks.
Good luck.
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Query for guys: what was your record loads blown in 24 hours ? And how many times do you usually blow per day ? What was different that time
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>>34195494
>what was your record loads blown in 24 hours?
6-8, don't really remember for sure
>And how many times do you usually blow per day?
1-22
>What was different that time
methamphetamine abuse
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>>34195494
>what was your record loads blown in 24 hours ?
I think I got up to 7. It gets hard after a while due to the chafing. Could probably do more with someone's mouth, instead of my hand.
>And how many times do you usually blow per day ?
Once.
>What was different that time
I decided to see how many times I could do it in a day for funsies.
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>>34195514
>1-2, not 22
whewlad
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>>34143691
Gals, where can I find ladyfrens online?

My interests seem to create almost entirely male communities (techie DIY stuff, linux, game development, TTRPGs) all of these usually are hyper-masculine, with communities almost entirely made of dudes, and I would like to explore more femenine stuff, because I feel like I am missing out on a whole new world and people with differing views and interests. I am talking primarily in the context of discord, and being able to talk to new people. (i.e I like knitting but the knitting community online isn't a particularly cohesive or socialable one).
Doesn't have to be broad, I will gladly take pointers on specific games/fandoms/media.
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>>34184646
>why aren't Jedi naked in the afterlife
...That's a really good question. My headcanon is that a force ghost's appearance is tied to it's self-concept. This is why, for me, I believe Anakin's force ghost at the end of RotJ being changed to Hayden was actually a good change; he manifested as his younger, uncharred self because to him, that is who Anakin is; everything that followed his betrayal of Mace and submission to Palpatine was Darth Vader; Sebastian Shaw in robes, happy and vibing was never how he saw himself, in the literal or metaphorical sense.

>>34194263
>How do I get on track?
You've got $1K a month that you're at the very least setting aside and not spending on dumb shit, I think you're doing OK. What does "on track" mean to you, what are your goals?

>>34194254
>I think men are intimidated by funny/smart women
More often we're put off by women who *think* they're funny and/or smart.
>You always hear the cope of "women aren't funny"
For me at least, the issue is most female comedians speak on things I don't understand, are irrelevant to my lived experience, and/or don't care about.
>they just don't want women to be funnier or capable because that means they're less easier to control
What do you base this claim on?
>Never change yourself for someone else
Nothing to add, just emphatically agree.
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>>34195296
Nah, that pickup line was funny. Legit made me smile because of how corny/crosses the line twice it is. Dude was the problem, not you.

>>34194650
If a woman appreciates a man, she'll care what he appreciates, otherwise he can get fucked and literally doesn't register as a person to her. You should know this, you've been a man for several decades. Anyway, Taylor Tomlinson is/*was pretty fucking funny. I say *was because while her specials have all been super relatable and endearing, I saw her on her current tour and it wasn't so much a comedy act as much as an hour of blasphemy for it's own sake, LGBT talking points, and obligatory man-bashing. Hopefully she returns to form, but in my experience once they go down that path, there's no coming back.
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>>34195711
I'm a guy but my experience meeting girls who have been into tech, game dev, and TTRPGs have come from unrelated activities.

One that has a tech job I found on reddit when I was reaching out for help and understanding the first time I got ghosted over a decade ago. The other one was playing World of Warships and was looking for more people to play with.

The one that's done some game dev came from really niche gaming for Dokapon.

All of the ones that are into TTRPGs I actually just asked if they wanted to try playing one and they said yes. Majority of them I sourced in League of Legends and Overwatch. But I see it more as every 20 mins or so you are in a match where you get to interact with 9-11 new people and on free days where I'm just gaming all day that could be 200+ maybe even 400+ new people where some of them might be a girl and down to make a new friend.
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>>34195494
I think max in one day was between 4-5 can't really say for sure.
Daily it's normally between 1-3 times, it really depends on what kind of day I'm having, if I have lube (am cut) etc.etc.
The only time I was able to blow over and over was when I was smoking weed and doing mushrooms so yeah I got a little degen
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>>34195469
Hey man, thanks for the compliment and being cool. You’re not missing much anyways, still trying to recover from my last relationship and I’m actually old by e-girl standards. Happy to chat if you wanna drop a Discord, but nothing will come of it romantically, just a warning. Thanks again, hopefully I will find someone to appreciate my 9/11 truther pickup lines in the future.
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>>34195296
>TTRPG and competitive vidya
I actually know a couple who have been together for 3 years who met here on 4chan (on /v/ not /soc/) so genuinely if you keep meeting people in your special interest communities then you're bound to run into a guy who's into what you're into. Of course you do run into the problem of whether or not they're compatible with you, and unfortunately the communities we reside in can be full of unredeemable weirdos.

I would say continue looking around in the discords or forums of things you're into, and eventually I think you'll find a guy who's into what you are and isn't a total creep. The main thing is to keep trying, you're not always gonna catch a fish at the pond but you can't stop trying entirely.
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>>34195517
>someone's mouth, instead of my hand
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>>34195976
Sorry anon, I'm straight.
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>>34195989
>he doesn't know about Steve Rambo
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>>34195970
Possibly, they gotta be in my area though, I’ve sworn off LDRs after my last one. Branching out in the community a bit, plan to keep going to my local card and game store, just joined a new DnD group and playing a class I haven’t before, joined a few Meetup groups including a Halo LAN Party one, and intend to volunteer at a local arboretum when the volunteer class comes around again.

Thanks Anon, here’s hoping.
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>>34195839
Yoooooo love Taylor! I actually saw her early in her comedy infancy, back when she was Christian (RIP). She was funny then and she’s hilarious now.

I hope she returns to the fold, but unlikely, probably overly optimistic of me to hope so, but I want the vast majority (mostly) to go to heaven.

Thank you Anon, I thought my graph was pretty funny too, along with my stupid as fuck theological questions I asked him since he was in the seminary. His friends continued to prank him and sometimes used me as bait, though I no longer directly trolled him.
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>>34194646
The things I would do to you. You just need someone to take you under her wing and spoil the shit out of you.
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>>34195711
Ayyyy my man, hello from an avid TTRPG player. Given my experience, there are more female players than you think. I actually was in an LOTR campaign once that was entirely female (actual women, not trans). Was a blast while it lasted, but then I graduated. I’ve played DnD extensively, but have found World of Darkness is best for finding women. Oddly, WoD was my first game but it wasn’t Vampire (prime woman magnet) or Werewolf (also female magnet) but Changeling: The Lost. Hobby stores are your friend, possibly Adventurers League or Meetup also works. I will advise you, some women are skeptical or even hostile to men joining groups purely to meet women, so maybe keep it on the down low at first.

The fact that you knit is pretty neat, cool and useful hobby. Are you on dating apps? While they aren’t the greatest, you can sometimes find some cool folks, mind you I am well aware of the advantages women have when it comes to online dating and even IRL.

Game development is cool, maybe you could put out feelers on Reddit or whatever godforsaken site women flock to these days to get pointers on the female gaming experience and what they want. Fan fiction is a massive draw for women, but many are gay or read depraved shit (last fan fic faved on AO3 before the integer error was a One Direction one which invoked Tom caged and having cock and ball torture, no I am not kidding).

Hope that helps some, and good luck out there!
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>>34195815
Fuck I forgot to respond to this. Similar theory but different in that I think it’s those who remember them dictate their appearance. Given the nature of the Force and how it connects all living creatures, Force ghosts are an intimate part of this and it wouldn’t surprise me if those who remember them see them. I guess there are issues with this given Obi Wan is dead when Anakin returns as a ghost, but eh. I do agree that the change of Anakin to his younger self as a ghost is more impactful than just some random dude who you don’t even recognize as him in the end there. Not sure how Force ghosts work entirely as I’ve only read a tad bit into the Thrawn trilogy, but maybe I can Google it. Thoughts?
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>>34195951
control_illusion_78046
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>>34195815
>what are your goals?
I gave up on goals. I'm too dull.
Just wanted to know what tracks there are.
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>>34195072
You ready for a third male to respond to this, anon?
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>>34196185
I've been following Taylor a long time as well. It's disappointing, because she's gone from someone whose material genuinely helped me become a more empathic and introspective person, to falling into the trap of "I've come out as queer, and that's now my entire personality and all I care to talk about." Which, you know what? If that's where she's at, fair, but it's not material that will hold my attention. Also, as a man who has supported her all gas, no brakes until this recent shift, her jumping on the "men are trash" bandwagon kind of hurts.

>>34196456
I think how others perceive them might play a factor as, like you said, the force connects all beings. Trying to find consistency in Star Wars lore, especially post mouse Star Wars lore, is a fool's errand, so I just try to enjoy the fun where I find it, and try to forget the Acolyte as best I can.

>>34196546
Reading The Simple Path to Wealth by JL Collins is a good start. I'm boring, what I do isn't particularly original or exciting. I believe in investing and reinvesting in securities that are proven winners, that have consistently appreciated in value and dividend yields. My goal is to get to the point where I'm making six figures a year from dividends, and then I'm never doing anything I don't want to do ever again.
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>>34197082
Oh man, I feel you. The cheat code in Hollywood is to be queer but not too queer, lest you end up like Ellen Page (RIP). Her stuff can be hilarious, she is one of the best crowd workers I’ve seen in a comedian, which is rare it seems, especially today. May I ask how it made you more empathetic and understanding? That’s kind of a curious thing to say.

Kathleen Kennedy and her consequences have been a disaster for the Star Wars fandom. Nuff said. I don’t acknowledge the sequels, though I enjoyed Rogue One and am told Andor is actually amazing television, might watch it at some point.

Anyways, if you wanna chat more post your Discord and I’ll add you. If not, that’s okay, hope you do well, Anon.
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>>34198274
Sorry, ID changed as I’m out and about, I’m 9/11 truther pick up line gal
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>>34144716
Query for girls:
>- do you enjoy getting eaten out (cunnilingus)? If yes what do you like about or if not what you don't like about it?
Not a fan of it. I've had it a few times. Mouth on vagina is a gross sensory experience for me.
- do you like kissing and/or being kissed on your body? If yes what do you like about or if not what you don't like about it?
Yes I do! Some locations are not hot but still make me feel desired/loved.
- how important or unimportant is being penetrated during sex for you? Can you easily orgasm without any penetration whatsover or do you need to be stretched/filled? If yes, why?
Difficult for me to orgasm no matter what. I do like the stretching/filling feeling but can rarely orgasm from that alone.
- how important is skinship to you? Do you enjoy taking showers/baths with you significant other? Sleep naked with them?
I think this is nice on occasion but I like private time/cannot sleep with someone touching me.
For extra naughty girls:
- what the hell is the appeal of pegging a guy? It's just using a dildo on him with extra steps! Is it the hands-free feature, the pseudo-sodomy, the reversal of roles?
I would never push the issue with a partner but desu I like feminine and/or bisexual dudes and I think making them feel good in that way would be really hot.
- if you consume homoerotica (male) of any kind is it because of the beefcake visuals or something else?
See above. Also I have gender identity issue (am a female repper).
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>>34147439
Love swimming. I wear a black 1 piece with a halter top tie. Depending on how I'm feeling I might also wear a pair of women's swim trunks or a rash guard but I generally prefer to go without those. It's just nice to have the option especially when I'm like at the pool with my nieces and nephews or at a waterpark or something where I need extra coverage to stay decent.
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>>34186134
>last time I got rated (that I was aware of) I was a solid 2.
Impossible, all women who like pegging are hot. But thank you regardless. In my book you're an 11.
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>>34185792
I'm a guy and I've been cooming like 2-5 times a day (when I'm not doing a lot of physical work) since I was a teenager. I had a fucked up childhood though, sexually and otherwise.
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>>34194254
>Never change yourself for someone else
HAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHA
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>>34147439
One piece swimsuits. My dream is to find bikinis which don't look ridiculous on my boobs, but everything seems to be triangle bikinis. My dream is to find those bikinis with bra sizing
>>34164742
Slutty stuff is a very broad definition. Prostitution and porn? I would reprimand her. Being sexually active with a boyfriend? No. I just would give advice to her about safe sex and if she took nudes, opsec. But that question is weird, why think on the sexual life of your hypothetical daughter?
>>34181415
Some do for money, some are exhibitionists and some like male attention.
>>34184756
I mostly don't pay attention at people when outside, but I will answer
>Do you ever look to see if he's packing?
No
>Do you think you can tell if a guy is big or not just from glancing at his crotch?
No, growers and showers are a thing
>If you are looking at crotches, does this mean you are interested/attracted to that man?
No, it means that my mind was wandering
>If you can see the outline of a dick through pants, does it turn you on?
Only if I find him hot
>>34185792
Yes, only when I am ovulating, we can orgasm multiple times
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>>34201250
>But that question is weird, why think on the sexual life of your hypothetical daughter?
I'm 90% sure he has some fucked up incest thing and is trying to trick people into participating in it.
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talking to a femcel is a purgatory dimension of hell
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>>34198274
>The cheat code in Hollywood is to be queer but not too queer
In hindsight, I feel like Kathy Griffin was the canary in the coal mine for all this shit.
>May I ask how it made you more empathetic and understanding?
So, I don't have to tell you we live in a society that fosters resentment, even antagonism between the sexes; it can be very easy to fall into the trap of falling into "us/them" thinking in regards to the opposite sex, I'm certainly guilty of having done so at times. With that in mind, it's extremely refreshing to hear a woman say things about mental health and relationships that I've said and thought myself. I struggle to think of a time I've felt more seen than when I watch Look At You; 90% of that special could've come right out my own mouth. Taylor's material has a way of making me walk away from it feeling like "they really do be just like us, huh?" I think that's why listening to her trash religion, rehash the usual suspects LGBT talking points, and shit on men for an hour felt so jarring. I still fuck with her, and hope I can chalk up her set from the Save Me tour (and the inevitable Netflix special featuring said set) as her just exploring new frontiers of her identity before returning to form, but time will tell.
>I don't acknowledge the sequels
To be fair, between the incoherent storytelling, blatant disregard for established lore, and unrelatable characters, they're pretty easy to disregard. There was a lesson for Disney to learn from all this, and that lesson is "maybe listen to Mark Hamill when he gives you feedback re: Luke Skywalker."
>am told Andor is actually amazing television
Andor is great, Obi-Wan is great, Mando is great until Lizzo and Jack Black show up, and even then it has it's enjoyable moments.
>post your Discord
I'll certainly consider it.
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>>34203407
Hey Anon,
>Kathy Griffin canary in the coal mine
Explain this one?
>Taylor Tomlinson
Oh God, the antagonism between the sexes has existed since our very introduction into the world, but it seems to have reached a fever pitch recently with no end in sight. You are not alone, I have been antagonistic to both sides at times, I will fully admit I have contributed to the problem before. Haven’t seen Look At You but will be sure to do so at some point. Don’t get me wrong, I am supportive of the LGB (not the T), but there is a point where the flawed logic and insistence on victimhood is too much. Yeah, I adore Taylor, hopefully she sees the light.
>Star Wars Sequels
I didn’t bother with the last movie but upon hearing about the
“SoMeHOw PaLpATinE ReTuRNeD”
I had enough anger that you could power a major metropolis for 20 years on my anger alone. What a joke. They completely shafted Luke’s character, Harrison Ford obviously just wanted to be written out, Space Mom is now dead so no chance of ever fixing things, Rey has future fueled my hatred of “strong female characters” like you wouldn’t believe, the whole thing is a clusterfuck and due to the length of my rant on this I will cut myself off here. Definitely gonna watch Andor, I am dubious about Obi Wan given things I’ve heard but I’ll keep it in mind.
>Discord
Please do if you’re willing, I’ll post an alt if you’d feel more comfortable that way. Thanks for chatting on here, you’re one cool cat.
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>>34203407
Posting alt: RobotnicRabbit
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Guys what are the craziest thing(s) you’ve used to get off ?
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what a miraculous thing it is to see a girl begging a guy for his discord because she was so impressed with his ability to nerd out. makes me feel like being a sperg on 4chan isn't a total waste.
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>>34206265
I'm not sure I understand the question. My hand...?
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>>34184646
>I’ve been single for almost a year now so I think I’m recovered from my previous relationship
Just curious, how long ago did the previous relationship end and what happened?
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>>34201203
why is this funny?
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>>34206254
Hi, I’m retarded, my alt is RobotnikRabbit (no c, a k)

>>34206629
Hey man, you know what they say, rizzem with the ‘tism
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>>34143691
Women, do you ever play with your boobs?
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>>34207353
God, a Sonic fan who seems pretty fun to talk to? I wish I was that anon, but alas. Good job to that anon.
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Need advice from both the guys and girls in this thread
>been thinking about reaching out to my ex for a while
>but I haven't actually done it
>don't want to get back together with her
>just want to talk about some things
>have had a message typed out and ready to send since December or January
>literally just need to hit send
>but I haven't
>have been mulling it over a little since then
>but it's like a every few months or so thought
>fast forward a few weeks ago
>have a dream about it
>it's ok and we're just talking and it seems to go well
>dream turns bad because we start kissing
>I don't want to get back together with her or even kiss her
>not sure why my subconscious threw this at me
Now it's bothering me more. I'm frustrated at my self for that dream, but also thinking I should reach out because maybe I'll finally feel better about everything and she can stop popping up so god damn much? I can finally get some answers? Am I retarded?
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>>34207648
you're in denial and you wouldn't care about getting answers if you didn't still want her on some level
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>>34207910
>if you didn't still want her on some level
But I really don't after what happened.
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>>34207648
Leave her alone if you don't even like her
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>>34208202
I still care about her on some level. I just don't want to ever be romantically involved with her again. But I don't hate her.
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>>34208401
What would you even want to send her? Why did it end
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>>34201250
>My dream is to find bikinis which don't look ridiculous on my boobs,
Im assuming that means yours are big
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>>34207600
I’m cool if you add me, I’m in all likelihood a ln undiagnosed massive sperg, the fact that I loved Sonic enough to read the comics probably seals the deal. Not medically, but it probably will in the future.
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>>34208419
I'm not gonna post what I wrote, but it's just saying I want to talk because I she some questions, but I don't want to get back together. It ended because she was cheating on me.
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I liked hornyposting with femanons
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>>34208436
I added you so we can talk about the Sonic comics. IDW or Archie, whichever is fine with me.
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>>34208477
you're that faggot from the adv thread aren't you
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Could I get advice of ways to please an obsessive guy?

I have a bf who I love athough I suffer from numbness. I want to make him more satisfied but also feed into it cause I’m selfish and like him being obsessed.

He is not bpd level or anything just more inexperienced anxious. He also has a mommy kink I play along with but what more can I do? How can I mess with his head
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>>34208516
this is bait
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>>34203481
>Explain this one?
Kathy Griffin used to have this show called "My Life on the D-List" where, basically, she was into all the identity politics nonsense waaay before it was cool.
>I am supportive of the LGB (not the T)
I'm glad people are finally thinking long enough to realize one of these things is not like the others, and ask the question "what does the T have to do with the LGB, anyway?" You can't really compare people not wanting to be hated for their sexual orientation to Lilly Contino.
>"SoMeHOw PaLpATinE ReTuRNeD"
Few things will send my give a fucks on vacation quicker than the trivialization of death; it's a big part of why I have such a hard time getting into capeshit. Anyway, you didn't miss anything; the fact that Mr. Plinkett didn't even give it the dignity of his contempt speaks volumes.
>"strong female characters"
What I hate most about this meme is how disingenuous it is; like we're supposed to pretend (just to name a few) Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor, and Clarice Starling don't exist, and aren't some of the most compelling protagonists in fiction.
>dubious about Obi Wan
It has its highs and lows, but the scene when Kenobi finally faces Vader is worth it alone.
>Please do if you're willing
I'm not unwilling.

>>34207648
What do you want to talk to her about?
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>>34208528
>”strong female character”
No, I absolutely agree with your point, Sarah Connor, Ellen Ripley, and Clarice Starling ARE strong female characters, and they are fucking GREAT characters. It is the modern iteration of “strong female character” that is fucking retarded and sends me into rage. Rey is the quintessential example of this, and I have a whole novel on this subject, but 4chan has a character limit and I’d rather converse than sperg into the ether.
>>34207353
That’s my alt, feel free to add me if you want but you will probably get an earful of me chimping out about modern “strong female characters” so if you don’t want that, I get it.

The other thing in your message I want to touch on is how it’s really weird how the T in LGBT suddenly managed to graft itself onto the sexual civil rights movement when gays and trannies used to fucking hate each other, even as recently as the 90s. Anyways, whole other issue. Thanks.
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>>34208528
>What do you want to talk to her about?
My id has changed since I'm at work, but just ask some questions for clarity and just get a better understanding of some things now that I'm in a much better headspace than I was over a year ago
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>>34208653
>feel free to add me if you want
I will, I'm literally just being lazy/procrastinating.
>gays and trannies used to fucking hate each other
Care to redpill me on this lore?

>>34209264
I struggle to think of a reason why you should give a single isolated fuck about your ex's rationalizations as to why she cheated on you. There isn't much to understand; she's selfish, immature, and couldn't afford you the bare minimum of respect and decency. Any reason she could give beyond that is inherently dishonest and masturbatory. Let her go, and move on.
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>>34211419
>I struggle to think of a reason why you should give a single isolated fuck about your ex's rationalizations as to why she cheated on you.
I don't need that. But we talked a bit after the break up but I was in a bad headspace. So I said something I'm not proud of. Not even mean or an insult. Just an intrusive thought I should not have verbalized. She also said some stuff too, and I just want some clarity on it. If she meant it, and other things.
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>>34212327
bro, you can't expect to have perfect closure on these things. what are you wanting her answer to be, deep down? it sure seems like you're hoping she's gonna tell you she didn't mean it and she wants to get back together. i have no idea if it's good or bad that you want that, but every post you've made reads like you're begging for someone to tell you that.
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>>34212493
>it sure seems like you're hoping she's gonna tell you she didn't mean it and she wants to get back together
No. I don't want to get back with her and I'm sure of that. But there are things she said that were just out of character and it was just jarring. I know maybe it was how I was acting. But I just have so many things I want to know. Maybe it's not getting perfect closure that bothers me and I have to accept that. But with what happened, I dunno, I just have felt the urge to reach out more lately
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>>34212519
if you're sure then you're in the best position to know. but if you do it then make sure you word it so there's no possibility in her mind that you're trying to get back with her, because otherwise she's going to be thinking the same thing i'm thinking.
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discord: archer1104 for femanon in bluetoga
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>>34212528
If I literally send the message "Hey, I want to talk with you about some things I have had on my mind, but I don't want to get back together with you." Would that work?
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>>34212753
that sounds pretty brusque and uptight to put it that way but i don't know, i'd defer to a femanon's expertise in these matters.
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>>34212760
I've had something typed out, that was just an example. But the first few lines are like "I know last time we talked went bad. I'm sorry for that and what I said. I really am. There are some things I want to talk about and I want to bring you clarity to the situation. I'm not trying to get back together. I'm really just trying to talk."
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>>34208423
>large tits bursting out of an undersized top
simply scrumptious
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>>34212753
>>34212785
Your lack of self-respect is concerning. Whether or not she responds to any hypothetical text you send has less to do with the minutiae of said text and more to do with how she feels about you, if she still feels anything at all. Infidelity is arguably the worst betrayal a woman can commit against a a man, so why on God's green Earth are you apologizing to her, for anything? Why would you care about anything she has to say? Why are you searching for some higher meaning in her actions beyond a profound selfishness and total lack of respect for you?
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>>34184705
>non-wagie server
RIP I guess
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>>34208516
This has to be b8 like other anon said, no woman would do this
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>>34199344
>am a female repper

nani
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>>34214016
>Your lack of self-respect is concerning.
Can't tell if this is genuine worry or just telling me I'm stupid. I'm fine with either. Besides, I'm probably not gonna send it. Like I said, it's been written for 7 months and all I have to do is hit send, but I haven't. It's more what we talked about after the break up. I feel we both said things we didn't mean. I'm retarded anyways. I buried the lede here hard because I sent a handwritten letter in October just saying I wanted to talk and apologizing for the thing I said. I felt handwritten letter would show sincerety and effort in my apology. My only problem was I didn't outline what I wanted to write and forgot to say I didn't want to get back together. I guess I thought it was implied but I should have said it. I regret not writing that. I also regret writing the letter because I should have just texted and I also forgot to put a return address down so idk if she read it, but she didn't respond. You can roast me for this, btw. I deserve it
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>>34143691
why are 80% of all women such narcisistic whores?
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>>34150887
Yes. We don't play your ming and clues games. Just be direct instead of expecting others to be mind reading fairies. I think that's selfish. Not to mention men are beaten down constantly for trying to initiate so they lose interest in trying something that is very likely to fail. You can't make people lose all the time and still expect them to try.
>Does that just mean I'm really ugly and they don't really like me?
That too is possibility, but considering how awful is dating in general, it's not the only option and certainly relatively less likely than it was before.

>>34154372
If people liked to work, we wouldn't have to pay them. Thing is, as system became more centralized and reached for more control over more aspects of life, most work turned into mercenary work. You don't work for your own future, you seek employment to get money, but fruits of your work end up somewhere else and someone usually profits off them more than you do producing them. Yesterday I've spend like almost 9 hours straight removing rust and patching up my old car to learn how to do it so that in the future if rust popped up on my new car, I was able to nip it in the bud and avoid scraping another car due to rust and I didn't feel like shit despite this work being more taxing than my job. It's just that fruits weren't separated from labor, fruits were for me to consume and there were no stupid regulations and people controlling me throughout the proces.
But system won't change overnight so I live by rule that work should either pay good, or leave you with lots of free time, ideally both, but you can't always have that. I don't have to like the job. It only has to afford me entertainment I want in my free time or leave enough free time so I could enjoy stuff I like and organize my fun myself.
You at least as woman have more realistic option to become SAHM. Even I wouldn't mind suporting SAHM is we had 3+ children and I had good food and clean clothes and sheets.
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>>34158171
this, but unironically. women have always made the first move historically (with war brides being the primary exception). the difference today is that the social consequences of being wrong are far higher and women need to hint less and be much more overt. this comes with its own issues tho, as coming on too strong feels like a setup and will put many guys off.
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>>34187910
Yes. I specifically looked for girl taller than me to see how it is. Finding one was surprisingly hard even though I'm just like 176cm tall. Found one that is 181cm. Most positions are awkward with such difference because she has to hunch or you have to stand on your toes (which makes orgasms more intense for some reason btw, probably has something to do with legs/butt muscles being tense), but hugging was top tier. Also footjobs were nice with a bit bigger feet.
thh I wouldn't mind such height difference if she was fine with researching what works best with it.

>>34195494
Record was like 11 orgasms when I was like 17 but after like 6th time you don't even shoot any cum. My whole abdomen was hurting like hell. Like there was literal black hole sucking in my insides. Most of the time my marathons involve like 5-6 times. But that was fapping and fapping is always less taxing.
When it comes to sex, record was 4 times in 2 hours because I got relatively short refractory period and it takes me a bit to cum. Then after a hour or two I came once more from fap.
My regular is 0-3 faps/day or 2 times during sex. Lot depends on how much I work. If I come home late I often don't feel like fapping or fap just once. If it's normal day then it's often like 2-3 times. Over weekends when I've slept well, eat something etc I sometimes go for ~5 times edging marathons.
>What was different that time
I was just extremely horny for faps and for sex I got to free use girl in kind of public settings.

>>34206265
That is something I share only privately with people I trust.

>>34207648
>don't want to get back together with her
>just want to talk about some things
Sounds retarded. I assume you broke up for a reason. You don't need relationship for talking so why specifically her?
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Men really like it when a woman tells him that she 'feels safe with him' because it appeals to the man's drive to protect, even if he doesn't realize it.
For women:
Is there a specific thing a man says or does specifically that is considered by all women to be attractive, or make the man seem more attractive? Specifically things that men might not already know, or you don't hear discussed often but your other friends would agree about it.
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>>34216203
>I assume you broke up for a reason. You don't need relationship for talking so why specifically her?
Yes, I mentioned in one of my replies that she cheated. Because I have some things to ask and we both said some things I feel we didn't mean.
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>>34154372
Holy shit F here and you sound a lot like me, esp the vaginismus. I want an asexual guy. Im so done trying.
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>>34208423
Ah, yes, I hate the ridiculous look of breasts spilling out of tops, it's vulgar and somehow it looks worse on bikinis tops, maybe this spilling enticing men works with perky and implants boobs but not with mine, and it's not my intention so with one piece swimsuit I go
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>>34206265
One time I came from fucking my ass with an olive oil covered carrot during phone sex (she was encouraging me) with my first girlfriend at 18 (we were both sexually abused as kids). I miss the mutual sex insanity sometimes. I don't miss the bpd and my random fits of anger being worse though.
>>34208516
I could tell you but I won't, eat shit lol
>>34215056
The nice ones are already happily married. Also evopsych. Men were filtered heavily by the last 200 years, women not at all until the last decade or so.
>>34150887
Depends on what you mean by "talk to". Most men have no interest in being "just friends" with women, 95% of the ones that say they do are lying, often to themselves. That's one of the few areas where we're really good at lying.
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Where should I actually try to meet women? I'm always at work, out walking etc. Anytime I get flirted with I seem to realize too late, but it isn't too common. Women call me cute a lot and that, but I'm not sure it's good women find me cute, doesn't seem to be mists type of guy.To be fair though I'm not aggressive about flirting, I'm pretty shy. I just don't know I feel alone yet know the problem is with me.
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Im about 80% sure a woman I like is also into me, however since I only see her at her job there's not really a good way I can think of to ask her out. (In short, her coworkers would all hear if I asked her out and it wouldn't be very polite. Since she just switched jobs to a new location too, it could give her new coworkers the wrong impression as well)

Are there any good conversation topics I can talk about next time I see her to get a better sense of if its mutual?
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>>34208516
I’m not baiting im serious I want to know :(
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>>34220811
give him little tasks that can keep him occupied so he feels like he's doing something for you when you're not around
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>>34220578
Do not, under any circumstances, talk to women at work about non-work-related things.
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>>34220578
bide your time and let conversation flow naturally. it's either there or it's not.
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>>34220881
We already talk about non work related things. Like I said, I think we both like each other. I only see her once a month, but lately we've been talking about more personal stuff.

>>34220895
Im continuing to play it safe, I just now actively want to ask her out. Im possibly misinterpreting something, but at this point the issue isn't so much "does she like me", its more of a problem that I cant ask her out during an appointment
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>>34216138
That’s a really insightful analysis, thank you! I definitely feel better about doing hard things that are more immediately relevant to my life than comparatively easy things that don’t - a couple summers ago, my dad and I spent the day building a shelf in stupidly hot weather, and even caked in sweat and with splinters everywhere, I ended the day thinking “holy shit, I wish I had gone into carpentry.” Felt better than a day at my office job, that’s for sure. I’m sure I’m just romanticizing the past, but it does sound awfully nice to be part of a community where everyone contributes to one goal - you raise the sheep and someone makes their wool into clothes for the winter and they’re paid in food by the farmers and if the roof gets leaky your carpenter buddy is just down the road… It would be nice to have work feel tangible instead of just fading into the ether.
I would love to be a SAHM, but I’ve got enough stupid shit going on with me that I would feel terrible about passing on my genes to some poor, unsuspecting little kid. (I’m also missing a husband, but that’s neither here nor there.)
>>34216809
I feel you. It feels so gauche to be all “hey, I’m really bad at sex, please don’t come into this expecting a porn star” but I really don’t know what to do at this point. I know sex is really important for a lot of people and I’d never hold that against anyone, but it’s still disheartening when it’s a dealbreaker.
I’m glad I’m in good company, at least. Hang in there.
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I'll try to resume my situation:
>me m 29yo, wife f 30yo.
>I never slept with another person. (she did in a past relationship).
>she does not have libido.
>accepts to have sex, but because i ask for it, if i wait for her to ask i would die waiting.
>start having insecurities. plus im tired bc work and home chores she wont do often, plus raising our kids.
>im not in my 20s anymore maybe im less attractive?
>resort to watching porn. not really helping. i want her. maybe if i propose new things?
>I propose few things, went as low as to propose her to have sex with any guy she finds attractive.
>at this point i need to see her having sexual desire, no matter how.
>nothing works, she acts inhibited as always (despite she not being a saint).
>tried to talk thousands of times, it usually ends in a fight, because she aknowledges the situation but, "nothing come through her mind", then just start ignoring the whole thing until I get tired of talk.
>become super depressed, continue watching porn everyday. getting new fetishes.
>dont want to cheat on her. but im get worse everyday.
>fastforwrad start crossdresing, even wear a wig, look minimal femenine. enough to get aroused watching myself.
>discover /soc/ (sadly). ending whoring myself to randoms online. getting dopamine shots I lacked.
>cant stop
>start to think to meet guys irl. (women too but is more difficult)
>again, i dont want to cheat on her.
>i dont want to end the relationship, mainly because of our kids, and that she doesnt have any place to go.
>keep thinking of myself, im already lost. maybe do it and keep it secret. Im almost sure even if she found out, she would be mad but not about the sex.
>anyways she will be the same. Im getting older and tired, i provide for my family, is it that bad i want my wife to like me? to have her view away from his phone? to help me with the house? Its ok if i accept keeping things all the same, but search satisfaction anywhere else?
>I feel like shit anyways.
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>>34221609
fuck it was very long, sorry. I'll understand any type of insult towards me. but if any female is reading, pls pretend to be my wife reading how im feeling, and tell me your response.
anyways it helped to vent at least
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F18 here from Netherlands, just turned 18 speak english and Dutch was wondering if you guys could rate me, be honest and don't be rude plz thanks!! :3

My Kik: esmeegaatmee
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>>34221314
>I ended the day thinking “holy shit, I wish I had gone into carpentry.” Felt better than a day at my office job, that’s for sure. I’m sure I’m just romanticizing the past
Well, it's not just romanticizing past there is also factor of novelty vs years of routine.
Still, it's hard because bureaucracy limits you and raises entry bars for lot of stuff, and we as humans are flawed too, with temptation to be lazy and just buy done product that will be better than whatever we'll produce for a long time ourselves. For example my rust removing adventure went like shit because I didn't have enough sandpaper to grind everything down so now there are visible irregularities under paint. It takes time to practice and you still aren't as good as machines mass producing shit with same, high quality standard. It's like dilemma between efficiency and wasting resources to maintain foundation. Same shit we have in job market with everyone requiring experience but no one willing to provide opportunity to gain it. Or offshoring industries because of efficiency and greed. It creates fragile systems which are fine as long as everything is working, but once something breaks, you suddenly lack foundation to fix or build it again. Machine breaks and suddenly you are at mercy of others because no one produces such machines in your place anymore, nor knows how process was done by hand in the past.
You should read/listen to Kaczynsky's Industrial Society. Part about technology is naive because those who don't advance technologically are simply conquered by those who do. Amish societies live really healthy life but only because no one tries to harm them. If someone wanted, they could easily do it with even XXth century tech. Also people wouldn't give it up due to simple convenience and comfort. But part about psychology with power process and oversocialization is on point.
>I’ve got enough stupid shit going on
Like what?
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>>34149162
Yo chat why am I hard rn??
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>>34221676
>Kik
Use something acceptable instead.
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to women: is it wrong to ask if I can wrap an arm around your shoulder when taking pics? context is at anime cons. sometimes when I ask, they awkwardly say something like "Uhh okay..." as though I didn't need to ask
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>>34222958
If you're taking pictures just do it, there's implied consent if they agree to take a picture with you
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>>34221314
>I know sex is really important for a lot of people and I’d never hold that against anyone, but it’s still disheartening when it’s a dealbreaker.
I think my relationship is going to end because of this problem. I’m having suicidal ideation at this point.
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My question for men. I like being treated real "gently" I'd call it when with a partner, especially after sex. For example, having someone play with my hair, hand me their jacket when they notice I'm cold, cuddling on the couch or after sex. However, I feel like I can't ask for those things without being seen as soft or weak (probably some trauma or something idk). Like the idea of asking makes me a bit nauseous with humility. What's the best way to bring up that I want that from a male partner? Also are there any good early indicators that a man wouldn't think I'm weak for wanting that stuff?
>>34207478
Yes, it's like a built in stress ball
>>34222958
I'd simply ask with something like "are you okay with me putting my arm around you?" Or "Can I get one posing with my arm around you?" Cosplay is all about consent.
>>34194002
I value physical media, so it wouldn't phase me. If you're type is more the average 4-chan woman, they'd probably think you're some kind of geek
>>34184756
I've literally never looked at a guy's crotch. It doesn't occur to me, even if I'm into him (unless I'm on my knees)
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>>34223746
As a dude, I can tell you that if a woman asked me to do that after sex Id probably instantly get hard again. Emotional intimacy is pretty normal, or at least it should be, and even if it is "weak" to request it, part of a relationship is being weak around them because you trust them.

Im idealizing, but I dont think anyone worth being with would think less of you for wanting to depend on them a little.
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>>34223746
>However, I feel like I can't ask for those things without being seen as soft or weak
This, in itself, is usually endearing anyway. I know women are told by various entities that acting like a man and being strong is desirable but to most of us it really is not.

That's not to say we are overjoyed to be surrogate fathers however. It gets complex. But relationships are about mutual vulnerability.

Also asking that probably won't change his opinion of you either way. Strength isn't exemplified by tropes.
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>>34223588
I ended mine for that (and other reasons) recently and despite being 100% right to the pain just gets worse and worse
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>>34224037
Can i add you somehow/give my contact? It’s chill if you want to stay anonymous, no pressure. I’m also F (obviously) so not a creep. Just feeling like shit about this. Otherwise i wish you well <3
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>>34143691
Where should I ask if I want to cum tribute women (consentually)? I'm not interested in the implications but I don't want to be a creep/hurt women either.
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Vaginismus isn’t real; you are, in fact, just terrible at sex.
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>>34221788
Oh, for sure. I'm sure if I spent a year making shelves I'd be saying "damn, I should have gotten into e-mail marketing," but the point remains.
Absolutely - it's frustrating to spend hours on something and have it kind of suck. Everything feels scary and shitty and so close to toppling over.
I will, I appreciate the recommendation! I always get a bit intimidated by philosophical or political texts, but they feel rewarding to work through. Thank you :)
>stupid shit
I've got a genetic disorder that makes miscarriage & birth defects significantly more likely. I will also say that I'm suspect mental illness is *entirely* genetic, but I'd feel bad about passing mine on, especially when there are kids who already exist that need a loving home.
I also don't think I have a lifestyle worth looking up to at this point in my life. I spend most of my time on the computer, which is fine for me, but I'd rather raise kids who see adulthood as the time when they get to read big books or spend all day outside versus the time when they get to play GTA or something.
>>34223588
I ended mine for the same reason (plus some extra, but that's not relevant right now). I'm sorry, anon. I wish I had something to say that could make it better. If it's any consolation, I had very similar feelings, especially after ending my relationship. I'm rooting for you.
>>34222958
I think it's better to ask and be a little awkward than to avoid the question and create an uncomfortable situation. Maybe ask if there's a specific pose they'd like to do? Probably better for your One Pieces than your Grave of the Fireflies, but it could be a good option.
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>>34143691
what's the best toy I can get for my boyfriend? preferably no more expensive than 300 AUD
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>>34224382
Actually, how good of a choice is this one?

https://www.lovehoney.com.au/sex-toys/male-sex-toys/realistic-vaginas/p/thrust-pro-elite-alicia-realistic-vagina-ass-and-tits-masturbator-7.5kg/69974.html

if it's good enough I think I'll buy it
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>>34223746
Just ask. I have no idea why you insist on playing those stupid mind games to create false images or compete for something when the other person probably doesn't even know there is competition going on and sees it as being irrational and annoying. Why women can't let go of some stupid idealized idea of life and comprehend idea of investment into your partner by giving feedback so you both knew what the other person likes and thus could reciprocate in a way that will be appreciated. It's forming each other to become perfectly matching pieces. Is it so hard to for example give a tip in bed to your man how you like your sex so all your future sex would be better instead of expecting them to read your mind and gamble whether it will ever be better, stay the same or become worse? Like, you have power to change things, steer them at least to some degree in prefered direction and you just throw it away for some naive hope and later disappointment. When I was getting to eat something that was tasty I started to compliment whoever made it and told them it's really tasty and guess what, they were making it more often than before. That's because people generally want to do well and to be appreciated. No one enters relationship or has kids with intention to ruin their lives from the start.
>being seen as soft or weak
There is chance you are already seen as such. It's assumed because you are biologically weaker and women often are more emotional and cry which makes them seem soft. And it's not bad because those differences between men and women are what defines feminine and masculine, and woman being feminine is desired more often than not. Men like it because they like being appreciated as saviors and problem solvers which you can rely on.
Bonus points if you do it in cute/adorable way like playful-childish-dramatic
>nuuuuuu, don't go, come back here
with reaching hands and just tell him you like his warm body after sex so you want to stay like that for a while.
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>>34224392
One of those horse pussies off Etsy
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>>34223746
>>34224709
Also to add one more thing: if you think it's silly and embarrasing, it's your own, secret sillyness. It's your own shared, private moment so it's not like others will know. It's your silly little fun which makes your relationship yours, because you don't show this side to anyone else. It's what makes it actually special. You are building your relationship for your own mutual use, not to cater to someone else.

>>34224313
>it's frustrating to spend hours on something and have it kind of suck
Well, that's the price of actually getting anywhere and maintenance of systems. Sadly less and less people are willing to bear the cost. Both when it comes to to others, and themselves.
As for having kids, those things are still a chance. It might be a bit bigger chance, but it's still just a chance. Sadly there is no cure in this world, you just have to keep trying. Just like with getting better. Life isn't RPG game where you pick your build optimized for playthrough you want. It's a poker game where you have to make the best out of hand you've been dealt. People worse than you, who just don't care, will breed anyway no matter whether you do or not, so you aren't making positive change by being some shining example. Just look at Africa or India. Those places have billions of people and when they move somewhere else, they often make the same mess they have in their birthplace. That means that if you have any ideas you think are worth preserving, it's up to you to make new generation that will care about it, because others won't. If you think world should be clean then having less people than people who don't care where they throw their trash and see cleaning as something beneath them is nothing more than fake virtue signaling or even hipocrisy. If you acknowledge you are not perfect then that's good start to know how to raise someone to avoid problems you had. It's the same process, getting better, but on intergenerational level, not just personal.
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>>34224313
Also
>I also don't think I have a lifestyle worth looking up to at this point in my life. I spend most of my time on the computer, which is fine for me, but I'd rather raise kids who see adulthood as the time when they get to read big books or spend all day outside versus the time when they get to play GTA or something.
That's very naive way to look at quality of life and activities. I've told you that most of us live boring, structured lives with mercenary work. Pretending otherwise isn't going to change anything in any positive way because it's no different from people putting out fake lives on tiktok where they pretend to have life consisting of going from party to party, creating false points of reference, breeding disappointment and maybe even jealousy. And when you grow up, you actually have less time to enjoy those big books and spend time outside. I've read the most books and spent most time outside when I was kid. It's simply about balance. And it's silly judging activities by their form instead of content. One of pieces of media that had decent impact on my life was stupid waifu collector game with android girls because it brings topic of completely replacable bodies, making me think about what is core of human that makes specific person as opposed to someone else, what makes us, and what is actually valuable in life because our bodies too are going to get old, die and rot, just like theirs were destroyed over and over again in combat. It's like dismissing fairy tales despite their moral because they are just fairytales, or dismiss the same moral from cartoon based on a book while holding book in high regard.
Besides, you aren't running away from technology. Your kids will too spend some time in front of monitor playing games. It's all about balance and actually putting effort into making other things attractive too. I too spend most of time in front of computer, but when I get outside, I actually feel fine. I just need to do it more often.
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>>34224382
>>34224392
I'm wondering why would you buy your bf rubber pussy to use instead of letting him use yours.
Anyway, hard to tell. Those big ones look fun but I don't have one so I don't know how much fun are they in actual use. I own small onahole with titties and I can tell you it's not as good as you imagine.
First of all, I don't know how sensitive your bf is. I'm not cut so my head is quite sensitive and even though I tried to buy toy with bigger canal so I could go balls deep, they are still quite small and tight which is simply overwhelming and you cum extremely fast in those. While I can fuck real pussy in one go for like 10-30 minutes, this thing can make me cum in couple strokes with sufficient lubrication. No idea how your bf likes it, but coming so fast is disappointing for me because I like to edge a bit. They are often harder andtighter than vag, making it feel closer to anal than vaginal sex.
Secondly, cleaning those is bothersome. I actually don't use mine that often because I know I'll have to clean it afterwards. It's not hard and doesn't take that much time, but after nutting enough times you simply lose interest in all things sexual and having to deal with it when you aren't horny anymore feels stupid. Also silicone tends to melt and become sticky after time from exposure to air so you have to cover it with baby powder after use to both protect it and give it natural skin texture instead of rubbery one. Cleaning small ones is just bother, but cleaning big ones is usually bigger hassle as you can't just flush it out and stick towel wrapped pen in to soak moisture, you have to carry it to shower because of its size. And bigger area means more powder use. Small ones can be put into small box or whatever, where are you going to keep big one to not spread that powder around?
So yeah, big ones are risky. I'm still considering getting one for aesthetics though.
I wonder if something with vibrations isn't better but I have no experience with those
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Where the hell do I find women who aren’t looking to add me to their Oort cloud of cocks and expecting me to be simply adding them my assumed asteroid belt of pussy? I know perfectly well you find what you go looking for, if you look in a bar you get bar thots and if you look at concerts you get the same repackaged with more tattoos, but I don’t know where to look for what I want. I work too damn much and have no patience or energy for the kind of games the women who go to those places like to play.
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Question for men, do you guys think the majority of your type tend to be white women, or do they prefer white women above everyone else?
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>>34225557
What?
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>>34225557
Tbh I've only heard black men make comments about other races. Know I don't care and my friends don't. More about being a match and getting along
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>>34224313
>I'm rooting for you.
Ily <3
>>34224247
Weak af bait, call us “broken” or something it will hurt more.
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>>34224093
Sure if you still want, my discord is concord_gape
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>>34225557
What
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>>34224837
I’m buying it for him since I’m not always at home, but thank you
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>>34225557
I mean I don't care about race personally, I guess a lot of guys prefer white women as a soft preference? probs not the majority though
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>>34223746
>feel like I can't ask for those things without being seen as soft or weak
bruh aftercare is completely normal and sweet and anyone who disagrees is an ass
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I'm a guy, obviously. It's both a question and a bit of a rant to get it out of my system.
Can you have healthy relationship with gooning and how much is too much? I often have very rough periods in my daily life mentally and that resulted in me developing a little masturbation habit that's divided by video game porn and anon chat flirting/sexting. Not only as another way to distract myself from overthinking and co., but also to make sure I can actually talk to girls in that way because I'm a stay at home dork with weird quirks. At times I catch myself at an idea of me being a total degenerate who wastes his time on something stupid instead of doing slightly less stupid shit like scrolling social media and whatnot.
Still, not sure if going cold turkey is actually a way. Because some masturbation every now and then can be healthy. I think I can just completely isolate myself from this, but it's probably also as manageable to balance it out and I don't know which one is the better option. So if anyone has something to say (or even just make fun of me), I would appreciate it.
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>>34225766
If what ales you can be treated with meditation or a sex therapist and a rebranded troon dilator kit it’s not a real problem. Do some kegels or something and stop leading that guy along if you find him so unattractive you can’t bring yourself to relax around him for even a second.
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>>34227416
masturbation is healthy so you shouldnt just completely stop
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>>34224313
>>34223746
Gotcha, that’s a fair point. Since more people have replied recommending to ask, I’ll make sure to continue gauging consent instead of assuming
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>>34227416
as long as you moderate it and don't waste too much time, nothing wrong with a bit of gooning and sexting/flirting
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how do i make my fwb wash his ass, it smells rank and he insists i like it. hes also fat. hes trying to read over my shoulder also
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>>34229866
Anon, your bar cannot possibly be THIS low.
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>>34229868
nvm he saw this post and said he would wash his ass
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my nasty fwb keeps begging to be fucked on her period and now the hotel sheets are all bloody.. she also keeps telling me to wash my ass, what should i do
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>>34229996
fuck you i didnt want it
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>>34228174
I do think some sort of break could be in order because it's probably been a bit too regular, but should stick be open for it on the occasion.
>>34229122
Well, I'm certain I've been going of the deep end with this lately. Me being susceptible to fall into habit and following patterns (which is a problem on itself) coupled with being in bad space mentally, I think it does start to get to a point of unhealthy.
For what its worth, I suppose me being aware of it all the way does give me some chances. Just writing it down helped quite a bit and I think I'm it's starting to actually click.
Thank you, anons.
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>>34229996
Make her give you a rimjob, win win
>>34227416
Probably not. I've been addicted to porn since I was a kid and I can't really moderate it long term. In my experience you can't just "scale back" addictions etc, you need to completely change the mental and neurological patterns that are engrained in you. It does suck really bad to look back and realize how much time you've wasted.

And yet I still lean on porn even knowing its bad for me lol. What a waste of a life.
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>>34230493
>In my experience
Yeah, shit is all about one's experience. While one overcome whatever addiction they have, others (sometimes unfortunately, sometimes not) just can't stop no matter what. No reason to be so self-defeating. I'm going to be an optimistic prick who tells you that it'll get better if it didn't already. Although I would assume you're doing alright as is.
>And yet I still lean on porn even knowing its bad for me lol. What a waste of a life.
There's obviously a degree of regret on my end, but not fully. Sometimes I just needed that and I liked it, plain and simple.
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Can guys experience fetishism or they just chalked it down as just attraction (ie you don’t care)
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>>34232411
I've definitely been fetishized before. But fortunately I enjoyed it in both cases.
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should I leave 1mm of white part on my nails, or is that bs and should I just cut it all off?
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>>34232549
If you are a man, no.
If you are a woman, that's the minimum.
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>>34229998
>>34229996
No way this is real. kek
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>>34232562
I'll cut it all off then, thanks
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>>34215035
>Can't tell if this genuine worry or just telling me I'm stupid
Both. Nothing this girl has to say could possibly matter. It's normal for people to come and go from your life, this fixating on "closure" and whatever dumb ass shit she may have to say is painfully juvenile on your part. Life is far too short to waste what time you do have on the wrong people; move on, discover and embrace new people and experiences.

>>34215056
Because their egos don't get checked like ours do. Women collectively reinforce their joint delusions/deceptions (see: "every woman is beautiful") meanwhile, weak men are happy to go along with whatever they're told to go along with; they'll eat miles of shit if they think there's a chance they'll get a peek at where it came from.

>>34221609
What is your favorite kind of curry?

>>34223746
Men generally don't select against "weakness" in women, quite the contrary, actually. Just say you like being touched/cuddled/taken care of, and you should be good to go.

>>34225215
At church.

>>34225557
Can you rephrase the question?

>>34227416
This comes not from a place of judgment, but from a place of honesty and compassion: No. Stop consuming porn, and consider therapy.
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>>34232411
Yes, it's fine 99% of the time (sometimes uncomfortable but still good, like when I met a girl with a fat fetish and I was fat and hated myself) but I was abused/"conditioned" as a kid and some of the psychological damage of that can be attractive to women. That always hurts a lot, even though it isn't anyone's fault.

The weird indignant horror at being fetishized/sexualized is 100% just a female thing.

>>34232549
Yes
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To American women; why do you suck so much? After 9+ of working on myself, yet failing to meet anyone who's either interested or enthusiastic about doing the same, I've basically reached the conclusion that you're generally a bunch of materialistic, lazy, promiscuous children who're virtually incapable of taking accountability for yourselves in any sort of relationship.
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>>34233246
Yeah basically
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>>34233252
Is that it? Do you care to shed any insight as to why that is, or how this social phenomenon can be rectified to any extent, or are you satisfied knowing that this is a country populated by heartbroken men, and subsequent generations are going to die childless and alone because they can't face up to the consequences of their warped cultural values?
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>>34233260
>how this social phenomenon can be rectified to any extent
just go anywhere else, yo. If you don't like the culture, find a better one
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>>34233051
>This comes not from a place of judgment, but from a place of honesty and compassion
I don't mind if it's both, to be quite honest.
>No. Stop consuming porn, and consider therapy.
I'm not really in a position to afford myself a therapist, but I'll keep that in mind nonetheless. At this point, I do think I can and will handle it on my own. Be it just fully redirecting my attention to other things, finding and locking in healthy limit within my routine or something along those lines.
Just talking about this "out loud" as anon already helped because that's just how I (and probably many other people) work: if there's a thought stuck in my head, letting it out is helpful to get rid of that.
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>>34233260
>country populated by heartbroken men
lol, lmao even
this is assuming that women are also all satisfied and happy
move to south korea or smth
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>>34232411
Most men are just happy to be receiving any sort of positive sexual attention from women.

>>34233168
>The weird indignant horror at being fetishized/sexualized is 100% just a female thing
This. Also, like every other metric used by women to judge/demonize male sexuality, it goes right the fuck out the window if they're into you.

>>34233246
They suck for the same reasons everything (including their male counterparts) sucks. People who are introspective and disciplined enough to bother with self-actualization are an extreme minority. Most people don't acknowledge a higher power than dopamine; most people cannot conceive that anything that feels good could be bad, nor that anything that feels bad could be beneficial. Most people are too tired, depleted, and broken to do anything more than exist. Most people are NPCs. What I'm saying is, what you're looking for is an exceptional person, and finding her might take awhile. That said, you can improve your odds by looking in the right places. Bars/clubs aren't a good place to look, because people go to those places for casual fun and surface level interactions. Dating apps are a waste of time because they're for people who are lonely/horny/both. What has worked for me, and how I've met the most valuable people in my life, is to just go out and live my life, and capitalize on organic connections as they present themselves. I wish I had a better answer for you, but for my money I can't find a better path to happiness and fulfillment in any avenue of life, other than just going out into the world as your honest, unapologetic, unamended self.

>>34233260
I would dare to be optimistic. Western civilization is already self-correcting, aggressively so. Turns out depriving your male population of any reason to give a shit wasn't the move. Who knew?

>>34233464
This. Being a digital nomad has never been easier, and you can retire in most of the world from a position of "fuck you" with less than a million invested.
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>>34234537
Women are leaning harder into the same shit that led us here. I wouldn't be optimistic.
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>>34222398
Because you want a horny woman to take advantage of you
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>>34234372
This. A third of this country's women are on psychiatric medication; the ladies are not OK. Then again, things are as bad as they are largely due to what women have chosen to vote for and support, so it can be hard for me to find empathy for women; not in the context of an interpersonal relationship with individual women, but in the context of women as a monolith, especially in regards to "women's issues."

On that note, question for women: in all seriousness, and from a practical standpoint, if you believe that you are oppressed and/or "marginalized," what more can we do for you? It is a grey area to even criticize you, no matter how constructive or objective the criticism may be. You live in a society whose first priority is solving all your problems, most of which you caused or are simply imaginary, for you. I don't want to hear about the wage gap; you outnumber men at every level of education, and at this point the only thing perpetuating the (thoroughly debunked) wage gap is men working harder jobs, for longer hours... oh, and when we do go to school we're far more likely to study something that actually matters, as opposed to getting a meme degree and expecting corporations to pay us $60K+ for a made-up job. Literally nothing else can be done on this front short of directly taking money from men and giving it to you, so be the change you want to see in the world, I guess. Reproductive rights? Abortion is a protected right in 21 states, which is 21 more states than the amount of states which prosecute paternity fraud, 21 more than states which allow a man to refuse responsibility for an unplanned or unwanted pregnancy... I could go on, but I won't; I'm well-spoken, kind of intense, and very passionate about this subject, and I don't wanna scare ya'll off.

Anyway, if you think society is doing you dirty, I'd like to hear how.
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>>34234655
I don't really feel oppressed for the most part with the exception of shitty culture areas (was born and raised in the south, which is still abhorrently sexist, but that's regular people who perpetrate that so there's not much to be done but leave), inability to deal with things like immigration (moved to canada where they allow indians to assualt/rape without much consequence for fear of being "racist"), and lack of ability to deal with legal shit. the one think I hate about males is they don't believe that rape cases aren't taken seriously, because they think "oh well false accusations are common!" when in reality that is a symptom rather than a point to dismiss. The point is, the legal system is happy to believe certain people and throw away others, men and women alike. they will happily believe a false accusation if it's a well off white woman, and will happy throw away so many rape cases (especially in cases of childhood stuff or human trafficking) just for the sake of convenience. I was trafficked as a child, and we have an "uncle" who trafficked 90% of the women in my family, and because he would drug me as a kid even if I rallied my whole family would not do jack shit because it's just non convenient. as such, I regularly work with abuse victims of all degrees, and men and women alike never get justice because of how fucked it all is. I would also say I dislike the medical system as there are plenty of doctors who gaslight us (had a male doctor tell me my cancer was a UTI, and suffered for years due to after effects of chemo because I had a very clear autoimmune response and it turned out further a connective tissue disorder). I think this happens a lot to women specifically because it's not very studied how hormones affect us, but that's a side effect of a crappy system rather than the catalyst, as they'll do anything to avoid actual care. inb4 that's just one doctor, no, I have seen well over 20 and it's all the same.
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>>34234541
How do you figure? I ask because near as I can tell while there are those who are too far gone, I'm seeing a significant political and cultural shift towards more conservative, traditional, and sane values. Women tend to be very generous with other people's resources and safety, but when shit gets real, shit gets real...

...and shit has gotten real; nobody wants to be the next Laken Riley.
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>>34234713
second to this:
anyhow, my biggest issue is on both sides as men and women like to look at the grass being greener rather than the interconnecting components, women like to look at the ways men have wronged them and potentially have it easier, and men do the same to women by looking at the childish ones and thinking that's all of us and male specific issues. the reality is we both have it shitty, and it just manifests very differently, and it's all a way to get us to neglect, ignore, or demean the other because what better than a society too busy destroying each other than to fix itself. like your whole post focuses on retarded white women who went to college and had full rights their whole life, meanwhile I've never even been able to afford college past the last 2 years because of how much the system has screwed me and any women I keep around in my life don't fit in that category because it's a waste of fucking time. it's like the women who make it their lives work to focus on incels or whatever, you focus on the worst (majority of people, who have no ethics, compassion, or even an internal monologue) forgetting that's all a symptom rather than an actual correlation to gender. this is all a symptom of shit people and shit society, it just manifests wholly differently due to social expectations and what's acceptable/normal for each gender. I hate everyone, and I hate conversations like this because it's rarely in good faith and is looking to push down another gender. by the way, if you're hoping to knock down retarded women, you're fucking stupid, because the women you so hate probably aren't on 4chan, and would do no more than knock you down as an incel, which is why I hate when men pull this shit. the ones who do answer probably have good faith, and you'll just lump them in with slampigs.
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>>34234655
third point: there are some missing factors in your argument. for example, while plenty of the wage gap has been debunked, there is a real component that certain jobs aren't women friendly (no, not talking about stem, fuck off), and even further, pregnancy will always be considered in long term careers is a big problem. as in, I have known women who literally can't give birth due to medical procedures still being not considered due to fear of settling down. I don't have a problem with this being something acknowledged and appropriately dealt with, but it's painted on most women. which, isn't really a general problem as plenty will do so, but it REALLY FUCKING SUCKS for women who don't have that in their cards and get the shit end because of it.
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jfc ur all conservative idiots in here. I remember why I avoid this thread. find a girl at church lmaoooooo pack it in this country is cooked
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>>34234776
it's at the point where I can't walk by a group of brown people without getting creepy stares (and I tend to dress in baggy clothes, too!). there was a story of a white lesbian couple getting grouped up on by like, 10 of them and one was beaten into a coma. nothing was done. trafficking is becoming more and more frequently in my area. it's pretty bad.
I think the whole believe women comes from misunderstandings on both sides. like, yes, inherently believe a victim is in good faith, but that's just in terms of following up on them, not actually LITERALLY believing them. women took it to any doubt is wrong, and men are confused (I am, too!). I also agree anyone who falsely accuses should be punished pretty severely. it should be: believe person who comes in needs help, investigate, figure out where to go from there (based on what can be done, can't be, and whether or not it's actually a problem.) like I said, I agree men struggle with false accusations, but that's a symptom of the judicial system believing whoever and just going with it rather than a pro woman thing. like, even when I lived in the south there was a domestic violence judge who was on probation for literally almost strangling his ex wife to death. I don't think you need good faith in women, that's never been a requirement, really, I think context matters. I will say the only time I ask for good faith is I've seen men in my circles where I say "this guy is unsafe (not direct accusation even though he did do something)" and they'll immediately go "oh that's just drama lol". other than that, the hand of justice should not discriminate towards men or women, it should be figuring things out. but as always, it's how badly he said she said cases are, as shown by both men and women being the victim of such.
completely understood on how the post came across. I avoid them for that reason, too.
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>>34234811
as for being selected for those reasons, it mostly applies to jobs that thrive with long term commitment (doctors, lawyers, stuff that need the investment to thrive). I know because I have personally been told off, and know a few of my friends who have been up front with future plans and it's been discussed with similar experiences. I can't have kids due to the chemotherapy I experienced a few years back, and I have told employers I have no plans and am already married, and they just always go "
but don't worry that'll change" and I try to explain no, I literally can't, and they'll always fight it with "oh but modern medicine, you never know, etc. etc."
I won't say it's always the case, but it happens enough where it can be pretty frustrating. as said, I have no issues with assuming a lot of women will settle down or have kids, but plenty will work with you if they do, and there are some who very much it's not in the cards who still receive that kind of crap.
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>>34229996
brown towels and hydrogen peroxide are your friends. earn your red wings, bubba.
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>talk to women age ranging from 21-28
>goes well, share pics
>still talking, they ask my age
>its 35
>they suddenly stop talking despite clicking for a week
>talk to another girl decide to lie to see wha happens and say I'm 26
>keep talking and ghost her because I lied about my age
I never knew age was such a huge factor but it is what it is.
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>>34235331
>I never knew age was such a huge factor
it is for both sexes, but skewed according to which. on average, women are primarily attracted to men their own age or maybe a touch older. on average, men are primarily attracted to women aged 22 give or take a couple years, regardless if the man is 18 or 75. it's lizard brain stuff.
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>>34234716
There's a subset of women, maybe a third of them, who have good dads and/or are raised in very conservative areas, who were never on board with all the modern shit, but outside of this group, "influencers" and grifters, women have been moving much more toward the left over the last several years, and it hasn't stopped. They don't hear about things like Laken Riley's murder or the Muslim rape gangs in the UK.
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>>34234760
Hush, the adults are speaking.
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Question for women:
Do you while even in a relationship or marriage, reminisce about prior flings or old boyfriends?
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>>34234655
>You live in a society whose first priority is solving all your problems, most of which you caused or are simply imaginary, for you. I don't want to hear about the wage gap; you outnumber men at every level of education, and at this point the only thing perpetuating the (thoroughly debunked) wage gap is men working harder jobs, for longer hours Reproductive rights? Abortion is a protected right in 21 states, which is 21 more states than the amount of states which prosecute paternity fraud, 21 more than states which allow a man to refuse responsibility for an unplanned or unwanted pregnancy... I could go on

My cuh, stop whining and go live in afghanistan
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>>34234716
>>34235508
>sane
frankly, those muslim groups you people keep complaining about are just a different flavour of conservatism. its funny how the crusades happened despite christians and muslims believing in the same god
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>>34235331
because why would women from age 21-28 be interested in a 35 year old man?
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>>34236062
Muslims are a heretical cult. Their culture is not desirable and we don't want it to take over our countries.
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>>34234760
mEn ArE tHe RaTiOnAl gEnDeR
>>34236071
christianity is also a heretical cult, i see no difference.
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>>34236080
Only from the perspective of a Jew.
You know what the difference is, you just don't want to acknowledge it because it would blow up your argument.
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>>34232411

A girl I dated in college only started dating and fucking me because I looked 85% like her older brother.

When he was on leave from the Marines and we met we both looked at each other then looked at her and both shook our heads.

It was fucking hot.
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>>34236021
>thinking women should be held to a standard that is equal quid pro quo to what they get in society is oppressive to them.

This is exactly why men don't care about women in the west anymore. Women got everything for nothing.
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>>34234894
>"oh but modern medicine, you never know"
But like... you do know. How frustrating. ICYDK in the states at least, it's generally illegal for an employer to ask if you have kids/plan to have kids during the hiring process. Once you're hired and looking to advance, I could see how it would be difficult to prove you were being selected against, and HR literally exists to fuck over employees and protect the company.

For what it's worth, men who are bachelors by choice also have to deal with constant questioning and asinine commentary.

>>34235331
A lot of zoomers are weird about age gaps. As in, I've seen 18/22 pairings called predatory. You have to consider the conditions in which they grew up; they've had access to the internet their entire life, that is to say, an abundance of information in the absence of the context or experience to meaningfully comprehend most of it. Then you consider the political climate of the past decade, and the rise of the influencer, i.e. attractive, confident grifters whose prerogative is to be provocative, and you have a recipe for a generation of over-opinionated cynics with a penchant for groupthink.
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>>34235508
I dunno man, near as I can tell the left has seriously damaged it's brand; I'd go as far as to say over the last year and a half the democratic party has essentially lost all credibility. People are way more comfortable calling the left on it's bullshit, at any rate. If for no other reason than white people don't care if you call them racist anymore, I'm confident in saying something has shifted.

>>34235864
If she had to become "ready to settle down" (read: *settle* for you) to give you a chance, then the answer is yes.

>>34236021
I'm not whining, I'm giving examples and raising valid points. But you know that, and you're acting in bad faith.

>>34236062
>those muslim groups you people keep complaining about
I never said anything negative about Muslims. Muslims aren't a monolith, but I generally have no problem with them. I do, however, believe their culture is largely irreconcilable with western civilization, and I believe this because there's an overwhelming amount of evidence supporting said belief. My favorite has to be the story of Hamtramck, Michigan. If you're unfamiliar with that bit of lore, the tl;dr: is that once upon a time, and not too long ago, Hamtramck was your run of the mill, Midwest town. Then, they started importing Muslim immigrants, mostly from Yemen and Bangladesh, in comically large numbers. In fact, they kept on importing these people, all the while not imposing any burden of integration or assimilation, for so long and in so great numbers, that eventually Yemeni people became the largest demographic, and in fact in 2015 Hamtramck became the first city in the US to elect a Muslim-majority city council, yay diversity! ...And then in 2023 they (the now all male, all Muslim city council) banned the display of pride flags on city property. OH NOES! The degenerates are not happy, and hilariously, most of them can't understand how this happened.

Simply put, my favorite example of "you get what you fuckin' deserve!" in recent memory.
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>>34238885
Things have definitely shifted, and the Democrat party is definitely in a bad spot, but women are still moving to the left. If anything, some of them are getting even more radical.
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>>34238888
>women are still moving to the left
Women assume the beliefs and values of men they respect. The problem is, there's a shortage of men worthy of respect out there, which is why so many women have been seduced by masturbatory, self-destructive rhetoric, in the first place. This is why it's so important to get your body, mind, and finances in order, because once you do that everything, and this includes women, falls into place. Once you do that, all the terminally online talking points about women become irrelevant, because they no longer apply to you.

You ever have a woman become so obsessed with you that you can literally watch as the feminism leaves her body? I have.
>some of them are getting even more radical
Yeah but between the blue hair, pierced septum, and morbid obesity, they're easy enough to spot, filter, and ignore.
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>>34238966
A guy successful with women would not be on 4chan. Please stop pretending to be something you're not. 4chan men and women deserve each other.
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>>34238888
>>34238966
yes, bc the reich wing is a scam. just look at the economy which trump promised to improve, its shit
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>>34238976
It's already better than it was a couple of years ago, and it's improving. Just like last time, it took a few years but 2019 was the best year economically that the US has had in decades.
>>34238966
This is true for women in the middle, but for a large portion of them it isn't true.
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>>34238986
yeah because trump was handed a good economy from obama. then he trashed it and had a bad covid response, so he lost to biden.

its so funny how /pol/ dudes are trying to shove their ideology down our throats, not even the subject of this thread
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>>34238995
This is delusional. Growth was consistently less than 2% for all of Obama's 8 years in office, then within a year of Trump taking office in 2017 it was over 3%, which everyone had said was impossible.
You're the one coming in here with a bunch of political stuff.
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>>34216182
I remember seeing an interview somewhere
that 1-in-5 women admitted to calling the cops on guys who just cold approached them for "being creepy."

The jews of gender will do shit like this then act confused why no one wants anything to do with them in public. You've literally got better odds with one in the chamber than talking to a modern "female."

>>34195989
>tripfagging
>straight

Yeah, you're not fooling anyone.
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>>34239321
>Yeah, you're not fooling anyone.
Hey man, if you wanna write fanfiction, I'm not gonna yuck your yum.
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>>34239431
Yeah, that's totally how these things work. That would mean Bush Sr. and Reagan were responsible for Clinton's good economy, by the way.
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>>34239574
It just feels like the chance of actually finding a woman worth pursuing is vanishingly low at this point.
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>>34143691
Why has feminism stopped pushing women towards being dominant?

I want to get pegged damnit
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the last e relationship of any significance I was in was 7 years ago. last time I had sex and an irl gf was 10 years ago. my last attempt at courting ended in her turning lesbian. im 29. is it over for me? I was never too great with girls but I didnt expect it to be this bad.
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>>34242900
>had sex and an irl gf was 10 years ago
so when you were 19? bruh if you could do it then what is stopping you now
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Is leopard print lingerie hot or trashy?
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>>34244632
hot af I love it lol
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>>34244632
Never struck me as trashy.
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>>34244643
Really!? I think it gives that vibe. Similar to bright/neon coloured lingerie.
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>>34244671
Really! I know it's got a bad rep, but I don't really care about that. Leopards are beautiful and elegant, so that's how stuff with their pattern strikes me.
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>>34244671
This seems like a woman thought. No man ever saw a woman in her underwear and was disappointed because it was the wrong color. Unless maybe it's brown and wasn't supposed to be
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>>34244632
Yes
>>34244671
Yes, they're both things at once. Men weight overt sexuality higher than actual aesthetic value usually, even though we like both qualities.
>>34244962
Basically this
>>34242900
I'm about that age and broke up with the love of my life this week because I can't give her what she needs. Not sure what to do with the rest of my life lol everything is empty. Could be worse. Genuinely might sell everything and go live in the woods.
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>>34245382
>I can't give her what she needs.
What couldn’t you give her?
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>>34244632
only looks good if the girl looks good. it's like adding sauce to a steak. the food has to be good first, and the dressing is just extra.
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>>34245599
Forgiveness, stability, normalcy.
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>>34244632
The pic in question looks good

Leopard print on a big furry coat etc looks like shit thoug
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>>34245825
I’m sorry anon. I think I’m also depriving my partner of things they need, and the conflict of loving them but wondering if being out of their life would make them happier. Was it a hard decision?
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>>34245894
Extremely, I know for a fact I will never have what I had with her again for various reasons, it felt like killing myself. I cried for 4 days. Dont do it unless you're 100% sure or you don't love her. I was pretty sure a year ago and did everything I could to work around it, and even more after that all failed. Relationships are always a compromise so do not make any rash decisions. If I thought there was a chance of us being happy together I'd still be with her. Even just writing this out makes my chest ache and burn.
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>>34245931
Hug. I’m so sorry you’re going through this anon. I know how agonizing heartbreak is. In my situation, it’s a sexual needs mismatch, and I don’t know if I will ever be enough. I don’t know how comparable my situation is.
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>>34245992
Thanks anon
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Advice for navigating potential relationships when you have major dealbreakers?
Idrk how to word this, there's plenty I can work on and change about myself, but there's a lot out of my control physically
I feel the need to be brutally honest with people, but ofc dumping all of this on someone is a massive turn off
At the same time, if I don't, I feel like I'm leading them on
I'd be upfront about it on my profile but I feel like it just attracts people with bad intentions, and scares away those who might be accepting if we met more organically...
Any advice on balancing the two somehow?
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Also, I have a dumb question
What are some hobby ideas for someone with no money and no skill
Too much of my time is just spent consooming I hate it, but I'm too much of a shut in (and broke) to go sign up for something just yet
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>>34249666
Hiking.
Get a backpack if you plan to go longer.
In the woods all you need is some ok shoes.
In the mountains you may need good shoes and tracking sticks can help.
Hiking is a hobby you can start out low cost and slowly increase however you like.
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>>34249666
I bought a Casio keyboard from marketplace recently for 10$ and already figured out how to play the intro of The Black Parade
I personally like sketching, origami, working out; and been interested in watching documentaries and singing too
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I asked her out and got rejected. At least I tried.
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Im genuinely gaslighting myself that i have reason to live
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>>34249666
Calisthenics. Also, reading is potentially free if you have access to a library.
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Girls: Is it true that female horniness is either "I need sex right now at this exact second" or "don't even think about touching me" with no in-between?
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What an ugly throwaway mail.
cpdfhdrjfuyezxpcsy@fxavaj.com
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>>34253318
for me horniness is just feeling excited basically, even when horny i don't think about sex at all though. i just feel mildly excited in a weird way, and it usually passes within a few mins.
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>>34195494
>what was your record loads blown in 24 hours ?
18 times
>And how many times do you usually blow per day
2 times
>What was different that time
I was heavily sleep deprived and the more tired I get the more horny I become.
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Maybe i should start killing women who ghost me. Idk it just seems fair.
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I heard this was supposed to be better than the /adv/ ATOGA, but this just seems to be more of the same shit.
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>>34260740
>I heard this was supposed to be better than the /adv/ ATOGA
nobody told you this unless it was a prank
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>>34143691
Querying for a response from women.
This might be more of a personal question rather than a generic, but I do not know so might aswell ask.

What makes you tick?
What makes experiencing life worth it for you?
Do you have a long goal or is it just what is convenient now?
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>>34261027
...Honestly, not a whole lot. I've mostly just been focusing on creative personal projects and indulging in hobbies, but my life feels pretty empty right now. I want to get married to my BF and have children, but we don't have the money for that right now.
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>>34261570
>I want to get married to my BF and have children, but we don't have the money for that right now.
I don't know about your context or your cultural practices, but marriage is just a formality and ritual to display love and affection towards your other half, and by doing so vow to stay with them.
Rituals are important but they don't need to be grand and expensive, or so I believe myself at least. There should be effort put into it, but expensiveness for it's own sake is meaningless for it's not about the marriage, but what happens after this rite of passage.
I wish it works out and that you may have many offsprings and happiness.

What creative works do you partake in if you don't mind me asking?
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Question for the girls
I am a 32yo single dad of 2 boys both under 3.
I'm 6'6 height and not fat but definitely a bit chubby, a few weeks at the gym would make a big difference.
Their mom is gone cuz of mental illness and toxic and mean behavior towards myself and my sons. Like really mean shit.
What are my chances of finding a good woman?
Where do I even go to find a good woman, obviously not a bar right?
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>>34261687
Im a dude, but from what i heard if you have shit togheter and take care of yourself, single dads can absolutely slay
And some women are even more open to that idea of raising someoens else kids
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Question primarily for women, but guys feel free to share your thoughts as well-

So I've been with a girl for a few years now, and we've reached the point where she's pushing for marriage and kids fairly regularly, in varying degrees of "kidding, but not kidding." There aren't really any problems in our relationship, and if you asked her, she'd probably tell you things are perfect. For the most part, I'd be inclined to agree, except for just this one thing: we don't have sex enough.

My expectations aren't outlandish; I'd
be perfectly content with two to four times a week, which was fairly typical for the first two thirds of our relationship. Now, it's died down to an average of once a week, or less. The thing is, and I want to be very clear here, I don't want her to acquiesce to having sex more often while she "lays back and thinks of England." I want her to want to have sex with me more often.

I've tried to communicate this as directly as I possibly can without veering into coming off as accusatory; when she presses me for marriage/kids I've straight up told her "we don't have sex enough for me to be secure in making that kind of commitment with you right now." Ball is in her court, right? I'm not sure what else I can do, and not to flex, but "be more attractive" isn't the issue, either. It's frustrating, because while I *do* want forever with her, I absolutely refuse to endure a dead bedroom. She's emphatically not open to me having a side piece, and frankly I don't know that I have the mental bandwidth to manage one at this point in my life. She's absolutely feral for me while she's ovulating, but for obvious reasons this is also when I'm least inclined to finish inside her, which is a let down for both of us.

What do?

>>34261687
>Their mom is gone
Like, how gone? I ask because the frequency with which a crazy bitch shows up and causes drama is going to be your biggest hurdle.
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>>34262701
You can't really increase somebody's libido. If hers isn't compatible with yours, you should break it off sooner rather than later. Because even if you two put a band-aid on the problem, or try to live with it, it will become a problem again down the line.
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PSA for women: Stereotypical post 2020 online woman culture (kpop, instagram, leftist roleplaying, that weird "breathy" pretentious writing style that right wing egirls use) is on average as repellant to us as gooner anime autism videogame addiction is to you.
>but I've dated plenty of guys who don't-
And I've dated plenty of girls who like anime and porn, it doesn't matter.
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>>34262701
yeah I agree with exhibanon, this is retarded because you can't really increase someone's libido like you claim you want. either she just has more sex with you, which is possible, or you accept what it is now and have it be "she fucks when she wants to". desu I'd consider a guy a red flag for marriage and children if his only deal breaker was fucking, but it's your prerogative.
men also don't equate stress in terms of libido, which can be an issue as I don't know your lives. for women, more stress decreases libido as we can't relax fully. men have an easier time surrounding that.
all you can do is be explicitly clear. if you want to be ethical, and after knowing full well you were clear, then I'd strongly suggest breaking it off to avoid wasting time. if you want to be a bit more irresponsible sticking with her until you get bored is an option, but I can't say that's the respectable choice. either her issues is stress/time and other such things, which only gets worse when an actual family on the table, or her libido is doing what it does and that's not enough. either way, you've made your choice. either you want more sex with the occasional lying there as a real option, or you want something that is unlikely to realistically happen (I'd argue closer to impossible if stress, trauma, or availability aren't an issue). There is also the question of are you guys intimate enough for her to feel comfortable having more sex? but if she says things are great, then that likely won't be a real fix either.
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>>34244632
both
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>>34143691
Here’s a question ladies, how come every time I talk to dudes they’re always like “wowww you’re so cooool hahaaaa wanna make out? :)” but every time I try to talk to women (mostly the ones on this site) it’s like I’m a terrible high school lecture? I’ve maybe had like two women in my life genuinely interested in me and one of them was really just putting up with me because I’m not too bad to look at (I’m told).
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Hi, can any girls help me choose my best 6 dating pictures, and what order to put them in?

https://imgur.com/a/eU3NvhH
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>>34262917
>>34263104
>there is an issue in the relationship
>better just end things now
Sure is "every Reddit dating thread, ever" up in this bitch.
>you can't really increase someone's libido
See, that's the thing, I don't know that that's the issue. I worry that there's something I'm doing, or not doing.
>if his only deal breaker was fucking
Why do so many women trivialize the importance of sex? Sex is important to men, because in many ways to us, in a romantic context, sex *is* love; it is the most direct and tangible affirmation of our desirability and worth there is. I'm so put off by this idea that men should trip over themselves to understand women, yet women so readily hand wave what is important to men. Which, obviously, isn't *just* sex, but does include sex. I love the girl I'm with, I just don't want to be in a situation where the person I love isn't meeting my needs, and I'm just sort of supposed to be ok with it.

Granted, we have been very busy, and we find time to have sex at least once a week in spite of this, so maybe things are better than I initially considered. Maybe I'm just being paranoid; I see so many dudes in sexless, thankless marriages where they're little more than an ATM and a photo prop, and I'm terrified of that becoming my existence.
>more stress decreases libido
Come think of it, there has been some bullshit going on with her family, maybe she's not handling it as well as she'd like me to think? Thanks for giving me something to think about. I think I'm gonna take her to her favorite restaurant tomorrow, get her feeling nice, satiated, safe, and validated, and ask her if everything is OK/if there is anything I can do for her.
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>>34264459
>Sure is "every Reddit dating thread, ever" up in this bitch.
You want to stay in a relationship with an immutable issue, that's your prerogative. Just remember we told ya so when you're miserable in a dead bedroom 10-20 years from now.
>I worry that there's something I'm doing, or not doing.
Unlikely. If she had the same desire you do, this wouldn't be a problem. You've communicated it multiple times and she hasn't mentioned such a problem.
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>>34244632
as a dyke, it's trashy as hell and that's what makes it hot
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>>34264556
Forgive me if I have you confused with someone else, but aren't you a KHHV? I'm just wondering, why are you speaking as an authority on something with which you have no experience? Not trying to come at you, bro, I just find your takes kind of suspect.
>miserable in a dead bedroom 10-20 years from now
Don't worry about me, bro; I'd leave. At considerable financial cost, obviously, but I see marriage as, essentially, gambling in the form of betting on a relationship, and you never gamble with more than you're willing to lose. We haven't even touched on the issue that is I just don't believe in marriage, which she very much wants. Then again, it's not really an issue because she feels way more strongly about this than I do, and I love her enough to indulge her desire to participate in the sad remnants of an institution that has been rendered factually meaningless, because she wants to have the dress, party, pictures, etc. and I like making her happy.
>You've communicated it multiple times and she hasn't mentioned such a problem
See, your inexperience is showing again, my young padawan; women are notoriously indirect communicators, particularly when the subject matter is unpleasant.

Anyway, talking to her tonight. I'll report back for the amusement of anyone who gives a shit.
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>>34265770
>Forgive me if I have you confused with someone else, but aren't you a KHHV?
I can give advice in something even if I lack personal experience with it. I don't have experience driving a car either, but I can tell you driving with a flat tire is a bad idea. I've got friends who struggled with these sorts of issues in relationships and am advising accordingly.
>Don't worry about me, bro; I'd leave
The point is, it's early and you're already seeing no marked improvement or attempts to compromise. I understand that you have an otherwise good relationship and might regret not giving her more chances. But if this is important to you, and it sounds like it is, it's just not meant to be. It isn't her fault or yours, you're just not sexually compatible. Why spend such a huge chunk of your life on that?
>women are notoriously indirect communicators
I don't think adding negative stereotypes into the mix is going to help you, friend. If your partner isn't willing to talk to you, it's a them problem, not a woman problem.
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can a person be drained from feeling emptiness? that’s how i feel since november 6th, 2023. every last bit of genuine emotion was ripped away from me. ever since then i’m in a sort of daze. in a constant loop of numbness & forcing myself to feel something. i notice some glimpses, i catch myself, but i can’t hold onto it. i try to remember how it was before, but i’m forgetting that too. how do i love? how do i hope?
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>>34264164
I’d say #4 is the best! Then #3, #7, and #9 is a fun one. DO NOT USE #5 ever.
t. 24yo femanon
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>>34264164
Oh, sorry you said 6 not 4. But, I wouldn’t use the long hair pics unless that’s what you currently look like.
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>>34265770
I’m a femanon, in a similar situation in your gf’s position. The pressure kills desire. Then pressure leads to resentment. I’m suffering and I’m a coward not to have ended it yet. My relationship might end soon because of this. It’s an essential incompatibility, like wanting kids. I know you love her, but in her position I’d want you to break it off. It will be mentally healthier for both of you to find someone compatible.
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>>34264459
I don't trivialize the importance of sex, I just don't consider it important in the long term context of growing old together. like, if my dude all of a sudden couldn't get it up, I wouldn't think "oh no not a sexless marriage better leave if he can't figure that shit out". that aside, I clearly said it was YOUR perogative, which is me saying "while I think that's stupid, you are allowed to have your priorities and that's perfectly fine if you consider that important regardless of my personal thoughts on the matter". that aside, even further I take opinions like yours less seriously due to the blanket statements around it (yes, for some people sex is love/romance/validation/affection, others it isn't), as well as every man I've seen who's complained about the fear of sexless marriage doesn't seem to understand sexless marriage doesn't necessarily mean a dead one. I only have sex with my man a few times a month, but I regularly thank him for anything he provides, and we are ALWAYS flirting with each other. there isn't a day I don't grab his ass or his chest and tell him he's handsome. I regularly make sure he's getting what he needs, and he regularly tells me the lack of sex is fine and he's actually happier with less concern of actual performance and more focus on the world around it and cohesiveness in marriage, and sex is just the bonus. I get tired of men like you, because you made a personal jab of "I don't get men like you" into somehow "you're a woman who expects men to understand you and refuse to get them!!!!" because you can't actually stand up for yourself in a meaningful way of why sex important to you without including other men. I included it was a red flag for me and left it, and that's why I'm with a man who has parents still together in our 80s and the times I came to him concerned because I couldn't perform for a few months due to health issues he reassured me his concern was growing old together and creating a life together.
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>>34264459
I clearly never said you had to be okay with it, or it was wrong for you to make it a priority (hence leaving it at "it's a red flag to me but your prerogative"), or that it was stupid for it to important to you. I also did not include any other opinions than mine, so I find it fucking insane you somehow managed to make it this weird sexism thing, while also blatantly admitting "yeah it's not just about sex but fear of commitment/intimacy" which is turning one discussion into a clearly multifaceted issue because you can't dissect your own concerns.
like I fucking said, if I was just shitting on you I wouldn't of provided actual real reasons for what might be going on, so I'm not sure why you brought up all your other emotional baggage over it.
that aside, yes, for a lot of women they need to feel safe/provided for in order to perform, so that is good. also, yes, while once a week not feel like a lot people forget that a lot of people have sex less not just because of lack of engagement of a relationship, but as we get older we have less energy for it. I wish you a solution, I am just a hard core realist where I've seen a lot of men don't understand the differences between sex and intimacy, and if it's not something that's gonna happen I'm going to point that out as a possibility. if I really didn't respect your concerns, I wouldn't even advise you to potentially leave, I'd actually just tell you to tolerate it while laughing at you.
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>>34267157
Not the anon you replied to, but what times do you think sexual incompatibility IS a dealbreaker?
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>>34267192
I can't speak for everyone, but for me I discovered my deal breakers due to my ex. I had one ex before my now husband who I was engaged with, and they would always want sex and complain that there wasn't enough. This was because in hindsight they had deep complex emotional needs/wants they did not know how to convey or communicate, as well as insecurities they did not know how to navigate. so, I would put out thinking it was about sex because of the amount of men who spew what the anon above did. when I had medical issues where I could not perform, my ex went and focused on cheating on me, and his biggest grip, again, was the sex. this made me realize I did not want to be in a relationship where it was a big priority. when I met my now husband, one of the first big conversations outside of kids was sex. I clearly conveyed I did not want sex as a big priority, it was growing old together and loving each other right. my husband said "that's fine, but I do expect intimacy in ways we are capable of, and for this to be an ongoing conversation to ensure our needs/wants/capabilities are compatible." I was pleased with that, and while we don't have sex every single week or month, we make sure to have dates, remind each other how we feel, and often just mutually masturbate or dry hump because it can be easier than sex with an intention of getting off sometimes. It's easier for us when we understand the underlying components and find ways that we are able to achieve those things.
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>>34267248
that being said, I don't think it's wrong to want/need/prioritize sex, I think sex is just a finnicky conversation because people never actually dissect what it means to them or think about what they actually want to achieve with it. some need it all the time as a physical release, some just need guaranteed intimacy/desire, while others actually don't care for it or dislike it completely. I think a lot of times this can be dealt with, most people just aren't mature enough to actually dissect issues and tackle it esp when it comes to relationships. I also don't think it's wrong for it to be a deal breaker. I have a friend who's deal breaker is having a partner who need sex in any way, while others their kinks are a lifestyle and not sharing that would be the deal breaker. It ultimately is incredibly personal. Needing sex is fine as long as you can understand what your wants/needs are, communicate, and to compromise in healthy ways. Just sucks because these skills aren't common these days.
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>>34267248
>that's fine, but I do expect intimacy in ways we are capable of
What if, for whatever reason, you could not do anything at all sexually? Like your pussy literally explodes from a bomb or he loses his dick to cancer? So one of you has a need the other can’t fulfill? Is that a dealbreaker?
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>>34267256
for me? no, as I already have issues that often makes penetration something I can't really do every time (yes medical ones, I have hormonal and pelvic floor issues). my husband can't perform in ways that are specific to him. honestly after a loved one passed he couldn't have sex for half a year or more and I was fine with that as long as long as he regularly showed me he loved me in other ways, which he did. so, hence, for me sex isn't a priority in the grand scheme of life, as we have found ways to make our unique quirks around sexuality work, because we often dissect what we actually want/needs which makes things MUCH easier. I find it much more convenient to handle "I need to feel desired", "I need to get off", "I need reassurance/care", or "I need to feel connected" as things that can be tackled in many ways than just labeling it under "sex" and calling it a day, hoping that will be enough. I am sure what we do wouldn't work for some people, though, which is fine too.
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>>34267274
Is there a way to know if my situation specifically is a dealbreaker? I think mine probably is. I have vaginismus (it sounds like you do too) and I just don’t care about sex. I could go my whole life without it. It causes me distress at this point because I associate it with pain. I think my bf needs sex. He associates it with love and self-worth. He’s said he’ll be patient for me to figure things out, and “wants me to want it,” but I don’t think I’ll ever want it. In fact, I’m kind of averse to sexual behavior now. What do you think?I know, I should communicate, but I am terrified because I think it would be a breakup discussion.
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>>34265843
>I can give advice in something even if I lack personal experience with it
You can, but you probably shouldn't.
>I've got friends who struggled with these issues
So you're giving me advice based on your second hand accounts of other people's relationship woes, without having any personal experiences against which to weigh, measure, compare, or test them?
>I don't have experience driving a car
First of all, come on Exhib, you got to get on that. Second, trying to balance the needs, expectations, aspirations, and boundaries of two people in the long term is significantly more complicated than knowing it's a good idea to replace a flat. However, if we're going with your metaphor, I'm sure you also know that if you've got an otherwise reliable car, that you enjoy driving around, that you've come to trust to get you from A to B, you don't trade it in at the first sign of trouble. You just replace the tire, and get back on the road.
>I don't think adding negative stereotypes
A lot of stereotypes are based in fact, Exhib. This is one of them. You'd know this if you had any experience with women, whatsoever.

Anyway, we talked, and she told me that three months ago she stepped on my scale, and the number she saw surprised her in a bad way, and she's been in her head, struggling to feel sexy ever since. I assured her that 1. her weight is average and perfectly healthy for a woman of her height, and 2. she's beautiful, and always will be. I also acknowledged that me saying those things isn't going to magically make her feelings go away, and that I'm there for her in any capacity she needs me to be. We talked some more, then we came together in another way, and now I'm here. I'm optimistic going forward.
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>>34267600
>You just replace the tire
You can't replace someone's libido. Congrats, you have arrived at the point!
>A lot of stereotypes are based in fact
Okay. So let's also assume the stereotype of "men don't like talking about their feelings" is also widely true. Both of you are now stereotyped into a relationship where nobody talks to each other! Perfect!
>if you had any experience with women, whatsoever.
My best friends are women. They don't play silly little communication games.
>I'm optimistic going forward
If you want to delude yourself, go right ahead. The fact that you're already having these troubles early on is a very bad sign. Prepare a grave for your bedroom, especially once you get married / have kids.
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>>34265843
>>34267123
>femanon is suffering in silence rather than engaging in an unpleasant confrontation
Hey Exhib, check out the negative stereotype in action! Anyway, I don't think her situation is all that similar to yours; she hasn't left me the fuck alone about marriage and kids for going on a year. Turns out she was just in her own head and didn't know how to talk to me about it, which is fair. Like the way she explained it to me was "if I bring up the weight gain, you'll suddenly realize I'm fat, and won't want me anymore." Which is, of course, ridiculous, but irrational fears don't really give a fuck about what makes sense. Also, I didn't really pressure her, In fact, the only time I'd ever bring it up was when she'd press me for marriage, not in an upset or accusatory way, but more of a "I have this weird thing where I want my prospective spouse to fuck me regularly, and I'd like to dial that down before moving forward" way.

Anyway, enough about me, I wanna talk about you. -Wrote an entire paragraph inquiring about your situation, then scrolled down and seen vaginismus was the issue- Would you be open to him having his needs met elsewhere? Anyway, stop needlessly complicating your life and just break up with him if you're not happy.

>>34267147
>>34267157
This reads like a boomer rant, and I'm not going to bother sifting through every non sequitur trying to find something that resembles a coherent point in all of that; I'm just gonna say different strokes for different folks, and leave it at that.

>>34267274
>my husband can't perform in ways that are specific to him
lol, lmao even.
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I'm 31 m and I have white hairs in my beard and eyebrows. Not even grey but like bright white. I think I'll be able to pull off a pretty good Santa Clause when I'm old and fat. I also have a bald spot on the top of my head right now because I had surgery recently. Is it over for me?
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>>34267679
>Would you be open to him having his needs met elsewhere?
I feel like I might be okay with that, but he would not—he is very monogamous. But yeah, it sounds like the situation is a little different and it’s a self-esteem issue with her maybe. But, I mean, you can’t change someone’s libido. She can have sex to please you, but she might not necessarily want it, and it sounds like you don’t want that.
>Wrote an entire paragraph inquiring about your situation
You did? I scrolled and didn’t see anything. Anyway, I don’t really think bad communication is a male or female stereotype. I’ve heard stereotypes about men “not wanting to show their emotions” and things of that nature, and I’ve had to beg some men before to open up.
>just break up with him
I guess it’s kind of like the car/tire comparison you made that is keeping me, and the fact that I love him. We have so many memories together. I know it’s bigger than just a tire though..
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>>34267612
>You can't replace someone's libido
>early on
So you didn't even read my post. Got it. You clearly missed the part where we've been together for years and fucking like rabbits for most of that time, or do you just not follow that the deviation in behavior is what caused the concern in the first place? I feel like you've been responding to my posts under the impression my girl and I have been intimate once a week for the duration of our relationship, and I'm only now taking issue with the frequency because she's pushing for commitment. That's not the case. Perhaps I could've communicated things better.
>My best friends are women. They don't play silly little communication games
They also don't regard you as a sexual entity, what is there to communicate? My dude, you're not even part of the conversation. Listen, I appreciate the time and effort, even if you lost the script and were kind of an asshole to me for no reason in your last post, but you're not an authority on relationships, least of all mine.

>>34267294
>I just don't care about sex. I could go my whole life without it
There's nothing wrong with that, but it may make finding a suitable partner difficult, and it's something you need to be upfront about *very* early in the courtship process.
>I think it would be a breakup discussion
It probably will be, but you owe it your yourself to be honest about how you feel, and what you want, and you owe it to him to respect his agency. Aside from the whole vaginismus thing, it sounds like you're asexual, and it sounds like he is a dude who enjoys pussy; I don't see any way it could possibly work out without you and he having a profoundly deep emotional bond, and you being OK with him getting his physical needs met by someone else. Whatever solution there may be, if there is one, is only going to be found somewhere in a very unpleasant conversation. I wish you luck.
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>>34267741
>So you didn't even read my post. Got it. You clearly missed the part where we've been together for years
Yes, I did. Years is nothing in the grand scheme. It's why sensible people wait at least 5-10 to get married. People change a lot in the long term. You don't start seeing how relationships are going to be until you've settled in with each other. This right here is a warning flag of how it's likely going to be in the future.
>They also don't regard you as a sexual entity
Says who?
>kind of an asshole to me for no reason
You're the one who started being hostile about my input not mattering when I was just trying to help.
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>>34267741
>it's something you need to be upfront about *very* early in the courtship process.
I absolutely agree. He is my only sexual partner and I lost my virginity to him. So, this process of self-discovery has occurred within my first sexual relationship, which is why I’m in this mess. But thank you for being nice to me anon I wish you luck too.
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>>34267731
>You did? I scrolled and didn't see anything
I was trying to indicate in a sort of tongue in cheek way that I had written a paragraph there with all sorts of questions, then deleted said paragraph because you answered them all later in the thread.
>She can have sex to please you, but she might not necessarily want it, and it sounds like you don't want that
Not one bit. She doesn't owe me sex, and I wouldn't want to have sex with anyone who wasn't willing to the point of being enthusiastic. My point with her was always "marriage and kids would be nice, but I couldn't help but notice we're not knocking boots as much as we used to... you/we good?" Just took her awhile to be ready to talk about it. She struggles with body dysmorphia from trauma in her past, it's a whole damn thing, but I think we're good now.
>men "not wanting to show their emotions"
>I've had to beg some men before to open up
I mean, there's a lot of truth to that, for several reasons. 1. it's reinforced to us from an early age that our feelings don't matter, 2. all too often the reward for showing vulnerability is having that vulnerability exploited, 3. there's this concept of the "masculine frame." I allow myself to be vulnerable to like... five people, that's it.
>I guess it's kind of like the car/tire comparison
Yeah, but this more like a... you're driving a compact SUV and he's trying to fit a minivan lifestyle into it. My advice, and keep in mind ultimately I'm just a dumb ass who has made his share of mistakes, is this: have the conversation. Be open to compromise and solutions. I don't know if there's any treatment for your condition worth exploring, or if you'd enjoy sex with toys and oral play more, but these are all things you should talk to him about. Definitely emphasize that you love him, and that it's not an issue of him being undesirable, but the activity itself.
>We have so many memories together
How long have you been together?
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>>34267748
>Years is nothing the grand scheme
I rolled human, not elf; we are as mayflies.
>It's why sensible people wait at least 5-10 to get married
Exhib, you gotta get some experience before you start saying this kind of stuff. I agree marriage is probably almost always a mistake, just because of the society we live in, but say you date someone for 8-10 years just to test the waters... dude that's potentially the prime of your life, and a woman's best childbearing years, in it's entirety. I'm not trying to just handwave/disregard your input, but for an example of how what you say doesn't always reconcile with the reality of relationships... there's not a lot of women out there willing to just hang around and hope you'll put a ring on it or give them kids for the better part of a decade. I'd say around no later than the two year mark most of them get pretty damn pushy. So please understand, I'm not disregarding the validity or sensibility of what you're saying, just the practicality of it. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that once you factor in all the stressors of life, we're lucky if we do the sensible thing half the time.
>This right here is a warning flag of how it's likely going to be in the future
I can see why you'd say that, but I know her pretty well and I think we're good.
>Says who?
Well if I'm wrong, why aren't you fucking them? If you're saving yourself for "the one" that's wholesome AF, and don't let me stop you.
>You're the one who started being hostile
Well, I wasn't trying to be.
>I was just trying to help
I thank you for that, it's just you're kind of coming across like you think you know not just relationships as whole, but my relationship, and me, and a woman you've never met, better than I do.

Speaking of which, why haven't you been in a relationship? Again, forgive me if I get this wrong, but did you say it's because you struggle with social anxiety?
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>>34267801
>you date someone for 8-10 years just to test the waters
It's not about testing the waters, it's about being sure this is the person you want to spend the rest of your life with. It takes time. 5 years is realistically probably enough in most cases, though.
>childbearing years
I don't want kids, so this isn't an issue.
>not a lot of women out there willing to just hang around and hope you'll put a ring on it
If she would leave me just because I won't get our relationship legally recognized ASAP, I wouldn't want to be with her to begin with.
>why aren't you fucking them?
That'd be difficult when I don't go outside. All of my friends are internet friends, so we also live quite a ways apart.
>you're kind of coming across like you think you know not just relationships as whole, but my relationship, and me, and a woman you've never met, better than I do.
I don't intend to. I've just seen this "convincing yourself these fundamental problems can be fixed" stage in relationships before, only for them to keep rearing their head, worse every time like you're cutting off the heads of a hydra. And I don't want you to get stuck in that, so I'm being blunt about what I believe is going to happen.
>why haven't you been in a relationship?
I've had a close call, but too many of my complications (such as social anxiety) end up driving a wedge between getting closer.
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>>34267679
>this reads like a boomer rant
huh, almost like your whole rant about women and sex over one disagreement read the same way! ironic isn't it?
>making fun of a man for not liking certain acts due to having experienced abuse
That's really pathetic you would stoop that low to make fun of my husband because I responded in a way that matched your original one to mine. It's even more sad when you didn't like the fact I responded similarly to your "why do women not take sex seriously" spiel and can't see the laughableness to that.
sounds like someone's insecure as fuck if you feel the need to pull punches over something you created yourself with your own assumptions. No wonder you aren't happy.
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>>34267822
>5 years is realistically probably enough in most cases
I can agree that the first six months of a relationship are in many ways performative, not even necessarily in a deceptive way, but because things are new and exciting enough that it's somewhat sustainable to always put your best foot forward. By two years you have a pretty good idea of who someone is. By five years you've faced some actual hurdles together, and have an idea of how you, they, and your relationship holds up in the face of adversity. What I'm saying is, agreed.
>I don't want kids
A lot of women do, mine included. She's in her early 30s now, that is to say, running out of time, and was upfront with this from the inception of the relationship. There's almost a moral obligation to not waste her time if I wasn't all-in on her by the two year mark, three year mark at the latest.

I definitely understand why you wouldn't though. I want them, but the idea of raising kids in current year is terrifying.
>I don't intend to
Fair enough. You've probably witnessed your share of horror stories, and I could've communicated things better. I never thought her libido was the issue; I struggle to stay hydrated when she's ovulating, it's just she was acting out of character and it's hard to ask why sometimes without feeling invasive or coming off as insecure. Balancing act between giving a shit and respecting one's privacy and all that.
>That'd be difficult when I don't go outside
Are you OK, Exhib? Do you have a counselor or someone you can talk to? You're an alright dude, and the idea of you spending your entire life hiding from the world kind of bums me out.
>I've had a close call
So you're saying there's a chance!

>>34268079
I'm not going to engage with this in the way you're hoping. Take your meds. People who make their trauma their entire personality are exhausting.
>you would stoop that low to make fun of my husband
*slide whistle*
>No wonder you aren't happy
Don't get it twisted; I love my life.
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Men: Have you ghosted a woman when things were going really well? And if so, why?

I'm somewhat newly separated (being about 6 months) and trying to see what's out there. First time this guy and I hit it off REALLY well, constantly talking all day. And then I got blocked in the middle of conversation. The second guy, things were going well, also talking frequent but not as much as the first guy. He dropped on me suddenly that he is not looking for anything, and has not gotten over his last situation with a woman that didn't even end up in a relationship. There was no talking about it, he clammed up. So I said okay thanks anyway and take care.

What would cause either of these?? We didn't talk about anything that would make someone absolutely break it off like politics, religion, nor about exes.
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>>34268568
engage in the way I was hoping? don't worry it was pretty obvious you weren't reasonable from the first time you've responded, hence why I didn't bother trying to have a real conversation. medication and therapy is always good advice, seeing you struggling with it makes it very clear. Thank you for such personal advice from your own life, even if I can't relate to it.
>>34267294
I think it could potentially be a deal breaker as a lot of men when they say they'll be patient they do as you said eventually hope that means it'll resolve itself. if you think it won't (which if it's medical and low libido, it's not incredibly likely it will especially if you don't find it to be a problem), then I'd say it needs actual conversation in order to potentially resolve, as well as acknowledging there might not be a solution. I understand why that's scary, but it's definitely unavoidable, and it will be much easier once either a solution is found or the pressure is gone. I wish you luck. If you are asexual it is also best to disclose early in hopes of finding other people who are also compatible . I don't have much to say other than the obvious, sadly.
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>>34268568
>it's hard to ask why sometimes without feeling invasive or coming off as insecure
That much I understand. Communication is hard. I just hope it becomes smoother between the two of you if you plan to take this thing into the long term. This isn't the last time she's going to struggle with feeling sexy; having kids is going to both do that AND eat up most of your time / energy. Many bedrooms do not survive the ordeal. And yours sounds like a high-risk victim for that to me. Do your best to keep the spark alive during / after that period, because if it goes out, I'm not sure it'll ever be rekindled.
>Are you OK, Exhib?
Relatively yeah. I wouldn't call myself depressed, at least not as much as I was earlier in life.
>Do you have a counselor or someone you can talk to?
Working on taking the first steps to getting help, but it hasn't been going well. Every time I pick up the phone to make the call, I instinctively drop it as though it's burning my hand.
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>>34268730
I wouldn't say ghosted since I communicated it, but I did cut contact with someone who believed things were going well. It's possible that it's going well in your head but not theirs.

In my case, I felt smothered, like she wanted to spend every waking moment with me and was frustrated that I wasn't as obsessed with her. She also kept pushing me out of my comfort zone, and I ultimately decided it wasn't worth the stress.

That being said, it could also have nothing to do with you. Some people just aren't ready for a relationship and get cold feet when the sparks starts flying.
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>>34268730
how long were you talking?
my gut feel is:
>constantly talking all day. And then I got blocked in the middle of conversation
his wife found out
>He dropped on me suddenly that he is not looking for anything, and has not gotten over his last situation with a woman that didn't even end up in a relationship. There was no talking about it, he clammed up
he hadn't been feeling it for a while but is a people pleaser and is bad at confrontation. you got no conversation because he'd decided already and doesn't know how to handle that kind of thing.

I've been guilty of the second option myself. it's something you find a lot in places like this, where we're all a bit autistic and badly socially adjusted. If it doesn't come naturally and you feel like you're roleplaying a conversationalist, you probably don't have a spectrum - its either on or off.

>I can't speak for everyone, but for me I discovered my deal breakers due to my ex
I think this is the most common way to do it. Sexual or not, you don't know what you can't deal with until it happens. I am capable of good relationships now because I had a bunch of really shitty relationships in the past and know what to look for and what to avoid.
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>>34268730
>What would cause either of these??
There is a million different potential reasons for the first one.
Ending up getting cold feat, not actually single, avoidant, a narcissist that does this as a hobby (ghosting), etc.

Second one seems pretty clear though? It very well could be that he realized he is not over that other woman yet. Seems pointless to fantasize anything else.
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For the femanons:
>Sounds like a stupid question, but I've always wondered: What stops you from initiating a gangbang with several men? I would assume it would be fun. Is it secretly common amongst women?
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>>34268730
I'm nonrepresentative but I've done that due to a bout of severe paranoia or instantaneous deployment of delayed shame for some weird sex thing I told her and I'm no longer horny. Not that women are much better but some of us men are very callous and selfish, I'm very sorry, genuinely. The internet sucks, go meet real people.
>>34268764
I've done this too. I felt horrible for not being direct but I've also been direct before and it turned into a living nightmare so IDK. The 10% most crazy ruin society for everyone.
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>>34269840
Women don't process sex like you think they do
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>For maleanons
What does it mean if a guy was flirting with a girl for months but kinda tire-kicking with getting things started, then out of nowhere he just goes completely cold and autistic, doesn't seem as interested? Why not just ghost a girl if you hate her rather than make it seem like every reply is an effort? If you've done this to a girl please tell me why
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>>34269915
Just lost interest. Maybe built you up to be something you aren't or it took too long and the infatuation period wore off.
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>>34268730
>Have you ghosted a woman when things were going really well? And if so, why?
Yes, things just heated up too quickly. We sexted before meeting up in person, and while I obliged her, it was a little too quick for me at the time (plus, she was kinda gross). She would send snaps of her fingering herself while "She's So Nice" by Pink Guy played in the background. This was 2016, but even then it made me cringe. I got red flags when she said she wanted to go to a public park and then take me to a secret location. It probably would have been fun, but I just wasn't up for it considering the city I was in was kinda dangerous.

I think the guy who blocked you probably just found someone better and didn't have the guts to let you down. The other anon who said that his wife found out might be right as well, but I think he would have just deleted his account if that were the case. That is, unless you and him exchanged personal details.

The second guy didn't really ghost you, in my opinion, and he was probably telling the truth. It's likely that he decided just to continue pursuing that other girl, or decided he needed to spend more time on himself.
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>>34269915
You're most likely his backup girl, someone he keeps around just in case the girl he's really pursuing isn't interested. Sounds like he's not great at stringing you along.
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>>34268730
>Have you ghosted a woman when things were going really well?
Nope, the only reason I'd ghost a woman is if I was worried for my safety. Other than that, I tend to be pretty direct with a woman if I'm not feeling it, for two reasons; 1. I stand on business. 2. I believe more women should experience rejection. Second reason is probably kind of toxic, but whatever, nobody is perfect.
>What would cause either of these??
Three things come to mind, but this list is by no means exhaustive.
1. It's entirely possible that things weren't going as well as you thought.
2. Do you live in a larger city? You could very well be a subject of discussion on a "are we dating the same chick?" situation.
3. A lot of men are hesitant to invest in a woman who walked away from a marriage, for (what I hope are) obvious reasons. More still think they're on board, but the reality doesn't match the idea. I wanna be clear: I'm not judging you, I'm sure you had your reasons. I'm just sharing a sentiment that is widely held among men, but seldom discussed openly.

>>34268764
She wants to be a stay at home mom, and I'm fortunate... scratch that, I've worked hard enough to be in a position where I can support a family on my income alone. I have faith we'll find a balance, and time for each other.
>This isn't the last time she's going to struggle with feeling sexy
No doubt, and being in a funk I can handle. Like I said, I just never want to be one of these losers who is good enough to pay for everything, but only gets anal on his birthday. I can be kind of insecure at times, that comes with being a realist (and, if I'm honest, a bit of a cynic) so while my brain can be 95% sure a cooling in the bedroom can be explained by her being in her own head about something, there's another 5% screaming "don't take me for a punk, because I am not the one." So I gotta do my own due diligence. I wasn't always this adept at managing the raccoon stuck in a trash bin that is my internal monologue.
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>>34268764
>Working on taking the first steps to getting help
Make the call. Dare to be uncomfortable. Do what needs to be done regardless of how you feel in the moment. You can do it, bro.

>>34268770
You touch on a good point, "constantly talking all day" might not be a good thing. Men, speaking in general terms, tend to not be so keen on large amounts of idle chatter. Speaking on a personal note, I literally transitioned from spinning plates to good 'ole monogamy because I got tired of all the texting. I wish I could say there was another reason, but there isn't. I'm glad I did, I love my girl with all my heart, but it wasn't some catalyst for personal growth or some grand epiphany that lead me here, I just got tired of spending so much of my time texting all the hoes in my phone, or said hoes wanting to video call while I'm trying to work on something or just vibe.

>>34269915
Just means you're not his first choice, but doesn't wanna burn the bridge in case it doesn't work out with his first choice.
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>for femanons
how much does a man lose in the scale if he's got grey hair on the sides?
for example:
>he's an 8 but grey hair makes him an X
>he's a 6 but grey hair makes him an X
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>>34271945
He gains at least 1 for me
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>>34178719
33/f here... as i've gotten older i've honestly noticed that the biggest barrier to my orgasms was in my own head. clitoral stimulation works, and i could always do that myself...

but once i found a partner i was comfortable with, matured, worked on my insecurities, and in the interest of total honesty, got plastic surgery... it got WAY easier to have an orgasm for me personally.
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>>34271945
idgaf about gray hair sincerely
a guy told me he "plucked" his gray hairs and I was thinking why the fuck would you do that. as a man you should want to hold onto all your hairs lol
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>>34267748
5-8 years?! most people get married after like 2-5 years...
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I need to approach this cute redhead at my gym
I have a feeling shes kind of into me
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>>34273534
What are the signs you're getting?
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>>34273535
Well
At first i thought she was just looking around while waiting between sets, but one day as she was walking past she smiled to me super nicely

Then recently she was like kind of lingering around where i lifted and took machine next to where i exercised, but that could be coincidence of course.

I caught her glancing at me a lot too but could be because i am glancing at her in first place and shes creeped out lol
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Ugly and balding
Its over
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>>34273600
white man jumpscare
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>>34273600
have you tried smiling and shaving your head
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>>34273605
Have you?
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>>34273605
smiling is an ick, isn't it?
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>>34225557

Excuse me?

>>34244632

It's hot but I like women with more meat on them nothing personal kid
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>question for femanons
possibly the stupidest question ever but do girls treat tiddy sizes as a similar deal to how guys treat dick size
by that i just mean do yall get jealous of someone being bigger, or feel proud of having the biggest pair in the room, or develop a small titty humilation/inferiority kink, or ??? idk stuff guys do in relation to dick size. i have no idea, i just wondered if it was any different with boobs since you can't really hide a chest the same way you can hide a dick
also would you date a trans guy
i know a shitton of guys here dont wanna deal with mtfs but i was wondering what the general consensus was for how femanons view ftms
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Question for anyone really: Do you find it easier to hold eye contact with someone youre attracted to versus other friends or strangers?

I have a hard time holding eye contact with most people, but its weirdly easy to look into the eyes of this one woman I like.
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>>34273600
Time to start humormaxxing
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>>34244632
There's nothing appealing about the pattern to me but I'm very autistic about clothing textures and patterns. I don't find it trashy though.
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>>34277025
I know for sure some girls do, I'm pretty lucky so I've never been on the jealous side but I have a few friends who've straight up admitted they get jealous as hell of girls with bigger tits than them.

>>34277175
I find it WAAAAY harder. I find it hard to begin with but looking into the eyes of someone I have a crush on or find attractive is downright impossible for me.
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for women who have posted their nudes online before: do you want to be recognized? i saw a lady i work with. it feels selfish having this one sided awkwardness. i want to say something
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>>34278524
Absolutely not lol if I actually got recognized for my nudes I'd be mortified. The thought of someone seeing me and having seen my nudes is hot in fantasy only lol My ex posted a few vids of me online so there's a fair chance so that's enoguh
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>>34278560
>My ex posted a few vids of me online so there's a fair chance so that's enoguh
Did he ask you and this was a kink or was it revenge porn?
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>>34278610
Revenge. Got him to stop eventually but by that point the internet did its thing so they are just out there
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>>34278649
Sorry to hear that.
There is never any justification for that and hope you were able to move on from it somewhat.
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>>34273600
If thats you gym orc you look a little better actually
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>>34278682
I appreciate it, it messed with my head a little at first but I've made peace with it by now.
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Why do women prefer to be with sexist guys who are hot rather than unattractive guys who aren't sexist? Do women just hate unattractive men AND themselves that much, that they are more fine with chads no matter how much they hurt and disrespect women? Is equality in dating really just so unbearably disgusting and horrible for women, even though women now talk about equality in practically every other aspect of life?
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>>34279019
Hey pal, you just blow in from stupid town?
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>>34279024
stupidtown called me to tell me they are all out of you
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>>34278560
yeah i had a feeling it's something i'm just going to have to keep to myself... fuck
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Women, have you ever fantasized about being nude—or close to nude—in public?
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Girls who post porn of themselves (here or anywhere), have you ever gotten off to your own content?
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>>34279019
Have you never been close with a woman before?
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>>34279019
Outing yourself as both sexist AND unattractive
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>>34278503
>eye contact

Honestly I think its weird. I dont like looking people in the eyes in general, but one of those "Wait I really like her" cues for myself is that its easy to look into a woman's eyes without issue.

Maybe Im weird, but the only people I easily hold eye contact with are people Im really attracted to.
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Question for cis femanons only

When you talk with a guy you meet on soc, be it by discord, telegram or whatever, why are you always so reluctant to video call and masturbate together? is it just me that's disgusting or you find that act disgusting by itself or i only get added by larps who can't even voice call cuz they are actually males? please i need an answer to this, i don't know if i'm gross or is just girls really hate it

pd: i always say beforehand that is not necessary to show face during the call
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>>34278524
Fuck no. That’s scary. It’s much hotter to walk around knowing that maybe the guy in the produce section has seen my asshole before, but he will never know. Meanwhile I’m ten feet away picking out some peaches.

>>34279019
It’s hard for me to answer your question because I’ve never been attracted to rampantly sexist men, and I’ve never dated one of them either. However I think there’s a pretty common scenario where a woman will meet a guy, and he seems charming at first. Then as you get to know him more and pursue a relationship, he turns out to be the worst guy you’ve ever met. They show their true colors. Sometimes it takes a while to show. And some women are too hypnotized to realize that, so they stay. It’s a toxic mentality of “but, but but… he got me flowers that one time!!!”

>>34284479
Yes, sometimes. Well, I shouldn’t say “gotten off” completely. But I will sometimes look back at what I posted and the responses, which gets me really horny. Then I usually watch porn or use my imagination until I cum. I have HPD and I should probably be put down.
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question for femanons: do you have any shitty stories of dealing with "nice" guys? i'm curious what the PoV is like there bc i can imagine how it'd just get awful and im curious to hear firsthand accounts

question for honestly any anons: what would you say is more important for you in a relationship, shared hobbies & interests, or shared life experiences & philosophies?

another fairly open to either side question, but what are your thoughts on the extreme prevalence of cuck threads on the board? 'cause i highly doubt anyone whose nudes are getting shared on those are asking for it and i honestly wonder what has to happen to people for them to start doing this to their partners

>>34278503
>I know for sure some girls do
yeah, i remember in high school my then-girlfriend openly admitting to me she was jealous of one of our mutual friends and i'd been wondering if that was like a common thing
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>>34284667
Nice guys? Sort of. I “dated” a guy when I was a freshman in high school for about 6 months. I was 14 and he was 17. He manipulated me a lot, but he was nice to me. Although looking back he was still a piece of shit to my face because he would try to con me out of money. I shouldn’t say try. It worked, I sent him money like an idiot. He said it was to pay for his mom’s medicine because she had cancer. Lmfao she had a government job and insurance, and he was using my money to order doordash and game skins.

Anyways. I found out he was talking shit about me behind my back. My looks, music taste, anything he insult me over. I think he was probably gay or at least bisexual because he was very close with his guy friends. He would use my money to buy them things. When I found out about what he was saying about me, I confronted him and he dropped the nice guy act. Called me a bitch, ugly, fat (I was like 110 lbs) blah blah blah. Wild.

>what are your thoughts on the extreme prevalence of cuck threads on the board?
It’s funny because I kind of have a kink for this. I would like my partner to share nudes of me as long as my face isn’t showing. Not so much into cucking but I would do it if my partner was into it. However it would obviously be with my consent. I don’t approve of anything that doesn’t involve consent. What disturbs me the most is the creep shots of family members like moms, sisters, daughters. But if that type of stuff gets banned from 4chan (which it won’t be) then they’ll just go somewhere else. Unless there’s a serious legal crackdown on that type of stuff. I don’t know how they would enforce it and determine what’s consensual and what isn’t… so I try to do my part by not viewing these threads. One less pair of eyes on it.
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>>34280662
Here and there. It's the usual "hot in fantasies, terrifying in reality." I like to fantasize about being naked at work like it's a normal thing, letting all of my co-workers get a show, maybe a feel.

>>34284557
It seems different than usual, but not a bad thing at all!

>>34284667
Sure seems fairly common! I imagine I'd be that way if I was smaller.
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>>34284745
Do you ever wear anything under your clothes to feel a similar thrill? You know, where you’re wearing something they don’t know about, maybe a toy.
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>>34284821
Haven't yet but always wanted to, just haven't made up my mind and done it
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I need some dating advice.
I have a few hobbies that some might say "scare the hoes." Do I try to find a woman who's also into those hobbies or do I pretend to like normie hobbies and then show her my unusual ones when she's more comfortable with me?
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>>34284570
Not a femanon but that's equivalent to sex on the first date, and a lot of people aren't comfortable with that.
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https://discord.com/invite/95Han7QN4m

California discord server. We would love it if you joined!
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>>34284884
What are you thinking of wearing under your clothes?
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>>34285055
I'm not a fan of anal plugs, so probably a mini vibrator. Maybe once I'm used to it, start turning it on during the day. Any suggestions?
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>>34279019
It's not that looks are more important that personality, it's that your looks *are* your personality.
>Do women just hate unattractive men
It's not hate, so much as indifference.
>they are more fine with chads no matter how much they hurt and disrespect women
As opposed to you, the repulsive loser who infantilizes them, objectifies them, *and* treats them as a monolith? Yes, women generally prefer attractive assholes over "I know what women need, and what they need is me" types.
>equality
You know who loves the idea of equality? Someone who is behind the curve.

>>34284667
I'd say both are important, but shared life experiences, values, and the like are easily more important than hobbies and interests. You don't have to like a whole lot of the same stuff, just as long as you have enough that you can find things to enjoy together. I'm extremely happy in my current relationship, even though I'd say only 20% of our interests overlap, because when it comes to our values, goals, beliefs, and understanding of what a relationship is, we're in lockstep.

>>34284950
Hard to give a helpful/ethical answer without knowing what these hobbies are.
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>>34285086
How about an egg vibe?
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>>34285142
I love the idea of that, would be so fun
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>>34285095
I'm not who you responded to but what, in your mind, makes objectification and in general "lesser treatment" so repugnant? I'm not judging either way I'm just curious about your feelings and reasoning on the subject.
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>>34143691
discord: cvnka
gender: female
ask me anything
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>>34285156
Yeah, you could even record any sounds you make on your phone to listen to them later and no one would be the wiser.
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>>34285095
My hobbies:
>Linux
>Retro games
>Self-hosting
>Networking
>OSINT gathering
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Men, do you like hearing about other men hitting on your woman or would you prefer she keeps it to herself? It seems to stress my bf out but I like how jealous and sexually aggressive he gets. And none of the instances are lies that I'm telling him about
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>>34285218
I try to speak mostly in terms of "is" instead of "ought." I wasn't trying to condemn anon's behavior so much as put it in front of him so that he can see how poorly it serves his assumed goal of securing female affection. In a vacuum, objectification and treating women as lesser beings is probably not a "good" thing, but whether it is or isn't a "good" thing has no bearing on whether or not attractive men can exhibit such behaviors without alienating the majority of their prospects; they can, and that's not going to change.

Most men are familiar with the hot/crazy matrix when it comes to women, or the idea that there is a direct correlation between how attractive a woman is, and the amount of her bullshit one will put up with. Or, if you prefer, a woman can be ugly, or unpleasant, but not both. Of course, there is a line where it doesn't matter how hot a girl is, she's simply not worth the degree to which she complicates one's life. Well, women are no different; the amount of bullshit most women will put up with a from a guy has a direct correlation with how attractive he is.

Anon's (and a lot of men's) problem is he sees this, recognizes this, and simply bemoans this, rather than taking the obvious lesson for what it is, and acting upon it; said lesson being, attractive men are treated better by women and have better dating prospects, and therefore a man should endeavor to be attractive. The problem is, acting on this lesson generally involves consistently living heavy things for a year or more to see results, and then indefinitely to sustain said results, and finding a way to offer some sort of value to others which they will pay and/or respect you for; this can be daunting, and it's certainly easier to cry about how unfair things are on some dark corner of the internet.
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>>34285979
If your bf is into it there's no problem but personally I'd rather not hear about it



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