The /soc/ threads were a mistake. No one every posts anything worthwhile that couldn't be posted in the /adv/ threads.

>>34298363
Which is what was said the first time these threads were posted. Whole thing has just been a massive larp fest ever since.

is a man in his late thirties with zero dating experience off putting? i'm a bit torn on how honest, or upfront, i should be about it.

Can any foids elaborate on what subconscious features a moid would have to be presenting to be openly mocked for being a "lost puppy" by someone who has never interacted/spoken to them

Does it mean anything if a girl talks to you about her period?

She hit me up out of the blue talking about cramps and I don’t know how to respond

Women, when was the last time you enjoyed being humiliated?

>>34298363
I don't know, it seems a bit calmer here than there
>>34298371
Any man with zero dating experience is off putting. The reason for this is that usually you have an idea of dating that is nothing like reality. Then when your first gf shatters the illusion by being an actual person and not like the whimsical doll in your fantasies, nothing she says or does is right anymore, and then she becomes trapped in a situation where he clearly expects you to only show the emotions TV or anime told him you were supposed to show. No woman likes to be in this position, so yes it is a red flag generally.
>>34298411
She cares about you and sees you as someone very close to her who she can tell anything. Periods are very painful. If she's reaching out to you, it means while she's in pain her mind reaches to you for comfort.

>>34298528
If a guy is in his 30s and has no dating experience, he'll likely take whatever he can get
Of course, that will also be unattractive to most women.

Do tight pants feel comfortable to wear for women? Shit on men because dick and balls.

>>34298553
Yes, that is correct and true as well. I'm not good at explaining that, but someone being desperate for anyone isnt a good thing at all. It won't feel like he actually cares about you. It just comes off like he wants anyone at all, and he guesses you'll do, then. Dehumanizing. Like being picked last for a team. Begrudging. Not because he was so taken with you, or any kind of positive reason. Which in todays society, if you dont HAVE to date anyone, why would you choose someone who only wants you because they couldnt get anyone else? Of course, you'd just be alone over that. Much comfier and safer.
>>34298563
Yes, can lead to infections too. Vagina needs breathing space.

>>34298569
So to have a chance, a man has to be:
>tall (minimum 5'10", ideally 6'0"+)
>in shape (not fat or scrawny)
>financially independent, if not wealthy
>confident, but not boastful or arrogant
>experienced, but not hung up on an ex or a manwhore
>well dressed and groomed, but not preening or overly concerned with his appearance
>outgoing, worldly, and interested in all the things she's interested
Meanwhile, a woman just has to be:
>not fat
>not insane
>not a bitch
>that's literally it

>>34298371
First, why don't you have any experience? Second, and to answer your question, yes, for the same reason a man who has many hoes is counter-intuitively *not* off putting. Comes down to a little phenomenon called preselection, it's the same reason women are obsessed with Labubu and Stanley drinkware; women want what other women want.

>>34298411
It means she sees you as an emotional tampon, pun intended. In all seriousness, it means you're someone who she feels she can confide in, and also doesn't see you as a sexual entity, and very possibly thinks you're gay. This is fine, and actually kind of a good thing if you're content being nothing more than a friend, but if you had any aspirations of getting pussy from this menstruating minx, I'd make peace with the fact it's not gonna happen.

>>34298609
That is correct, although it's worth acknowledging an attractive man can get away with being boastful, arrogant, a manwhore, and overly concerned with his appearance. Also, an attractive man doesn't have to be interested in the things a woman is interested in, and in fact a woman will often adopt the interests and values of a man she sufficiently respects and admires; case in point, I literally fucked religion *and* good taste in music into the girl I'm with now.

So my question to you, knowing all of this is... is what is the (very obvious) lesson here?

>>34298609
>not fat
>not insane
>not a bitch

I'm all 3 and I still get interest from men as well as some other undesirable traits.

>>34298609
No. To have a chance, you have to be someone thats enjoyable to be around and feels safe, understanding, warm, down to earth, and full of love and hope. Encouraging and kind typically happy type. No one wants a rain cloud, they can be miserable just fine by themselves.

>>34298623
Maybe in your head that's true. In reality, that's not how it works.
>>34298622
I'm talking about a long-term relationship.

>>34298630
I'm sorry your reality is different. I cannot speak for all of humanity, I can only speak for what I like as well as the other women in my life. We are nerds, so of course our expectations wont be the same as other types of women. If you were to ask me if that list of things were required of course I would say no. but there are people who care about those things. I kind of feel like if you are chasing people who want those things though....isnt that kind of... I dont know. I just cant imagine not liking birds who fly, and then actively chasing only birds who fly as the birds who only walk proceed to waddle right past me.

>>34298642
They're all like that. Nerdy girls often have higher standards. Again, you might think you don't, but in reality you do.

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>>34298371
>is a man in his late thirties with zero dating experience off putting?
It depends on the reason, but if you're self-conscious, just say you haven't dated since your early 20's. Make up some excuses like work or life issues and say you're rusty.

>>34298480
>Women, when was the last time you enjoyed being humiliated?
Like a week ago.

>>34298563
>Do tight pants feel comfortable to wear for women?
Yes, they're like a hug.

>>34298653
Fuck off.

>>34298630
>long-term relationships
That's all i've ever been in btw

>>34298651
I don't really believe any category of human is all the same. Its a depressing dismissive way to think. Self victimizing as well. I can't stop you from believing that though. I have said elsewhere, but my last ex was 5'1 and fat with no job yet. He was very kind in the beginning though, which is what won me over. Kind with shared hobbies, I loved spending time doing what I loved with someone who loved doing that too. Unfortunately his insecurities lead to us splitting, but had it not been for that, I wouldn't have ever thought of leaving. Just be a good kind person to spend life with. I don't think that's a high expectation. and I just think blaming things on "everyone is like this, everyone is like that" is just a really big waste of your own time. I don't know how it benefits anyone. But to each their own.

How come women find me low value and not worth their time?

>>34298666
The thing is, I meet most of the things in my list and I'm generally kind to people in real life. But none of it matters. I'm 31 and I've never had a gf, despite going on quite a few dates and asking out plenty of women.

>>34298623
>down to earth
I've come to the conclusion this doesn't actually mean anything. Anyway, I agree with your general point, and will add you can also (and actually, should) be a exciting, enganging, unpredictable, and even a little dangerous. In any case, Anon should definitely be doing something with his energy more productive than bemoaning how unfair life is.

>>34298622
I think it was fairly implicit that Anon meant to have a chance at men being interested in you as a person, as LTR, or even wife material. But yeah, if your only aspiration is to be the melanated contingent's slampig du jour, then yes, the bar is in fact lower.

>>34298642
This. I think it behooves us to be honest with ourselves, and if all a man wants is the absolute best trophy wife he can get... then for the life of me I cannot understand how he can turn around and bemoan how shallow women supposedly are. If you want a smokeshow super model, then go get visible abs, and find a way to earn six figures. What are we even talking about at that point?

>>34298653
>Like a week ago
...Nice.

>>34298668
I don't know, you havent said much about yourself
>>34298671
Because it's not actually about those things. You respond pretty aggressively as well, and are very quick to judge. Talking to you even a little bit like this, I get the feeling that you often make women feel uncomfortable feeling. Talking to you brings a feeling of dread. It may not be instantly, but somewhere along the line before you get as close as you want to, you accidentally show how you're really feeling, and then they rightfully back off. That is not a situation they want to be in, with you.

I don't know you, so I can't say this for sure, but it seems like you have a resentment toward women. If you had a daughter, would you want her with a resentful man? No, you would worry he'd hurt her. Likewise, she is worried you'll hurt her. None of us want to end up on the news, so the first sign of a man who secretly hates women is immediately when we run. Better safe, than sorry! Unfortunately, I think this is a problem for you. Until you can shake all that anger in yourself, you are not a person a woman will feel safe around and want to stay with.
>>34298679
Down to earth to me just means...he knows you're human too. That's all. You both have good and bad days, and you both pick each other up and encourage each other to keep trying, and approach everything with love, patience, and understanding. Not something like..there's a bad day, and he just gets mad and everything spirals worse.

>>34298653
>Like a week ago.
That sounds interesting, how did it go down?

>>34298684
You're not wrong, but that is a relatively recent development. When I was dating, I didn't feel this way about women. But after years of trying and getting nowhere, I got frustrated, stopped even trying to date, and started hating women, because I honestly think they feel the same way about men.

>>34298690
How/Where are you dating women? Why are you dating exactly? What are you looking for?

>>34298700
I was meeting women in lots of different ways. Church, friends/family, dating apps, hobby clubs, etc. I was dating seriously, looking for a long-term relationship with the goal of marriage. I got a lot of first dates and even some second and third dates, but nothing more than that. The dates usually went well I thought, nothing extremely exciting but nothing to indicate that she was upset or uncomfortable either. But every time she would either reject me via text a few days later, or she would just ghost.

>>34298668
What do you spend your time doing, and who do you spend it with?

>>34298684
Alright, so like "grounded." That's fair enough. I still think most people who use that term have no idea what they mean. It's become a red flag for purposeless behavior for me.

>>34298711
I don't really want to say it because it feels rude, but I think it has to be something you're saying. If you're making it that far, and they all keep pulling back, then something is going on that's telling them it's not a good idea. Women don't like to have their time wasted either, so I cant imagine it's something frivolous. Something is spooking them. Because if all those different types of women got a bad vibe...there is some sort of bad vibe consistently going on-the common denominator is you. You will have to figure out what it is. but please know..it is not your height. It will not be your looks, because your looks have gotten you that far multiple times now. It won't be money, it wont be fitness-its something you're saying. A way you're behaving. I'm sorry, that's all I can guess. I think the best thing you could do is has a female friend and honestly ask her if something about you is unsettling. See what you can work on. Most will wanna go "ah youre fine youre fine!" but you need truth that can help you, not empty reassurance.
>>34298720
Yes, grounded is a better word. Because that does often become a huge issue later on. You want to be able to rely on each other. If you know the other person is going to freak out in a tough situation and make things worse, male or female you won't want to be with them long term. Puts too much drama and problems on your back.

>>34298528
>>34298553
i see
>>34298612
>First, why don't you have any experience?
>>34298653
>It depends on the reason
i suppose the bare bones answer is late bloomer and as time went on it got, or at least felt harder to get into. some more time passed, and here we are is the gist of it

>>34298725
Of course. There's just some invisible, intangible thing that I'm apparently doing or saying or otherwise exhibiting, that no one can positively identify, that still somehow scares off every single woman, but only in person, not online or via text. And apparently it's always been present, even though all kinds of people in my life like me, appreciate me, and don't feel uncomfortable around me, and I've had two different short-term FWBs who never expressed anything of the sort.

I think it's more likely that women actually have no idea what they want. They just want someone who excites them, and the vast majority of guys don't do that.

femanons, how do you feel about sexual partners (guys or girls really) that aren't into eating out? i tend to try it once when i'm with a new partner because tmk it feels really good for them and i do wanna please them as well as they please me but the taste always just bugs me and 110% kills my libido and then the mood so i usually stray away from it. i'm generally upfront about all this though but i was just wondering if there's any connotations i guess

>>34298744
You're generalizing again, which doesnt hurt or punish anyone other than yourself. You can say to soothe yourself, "well women just dont know what they want", but then you go out and you will see happy couples because those people both knew exactly what they wanted, and that was each other-for varying different reasons that mattered to them both specifically.
People all have different wants, right? But people also consistently tend to have the same dis-wants. Usually, lets say body odor. Across the board, body odor will repel people away. Something you're saying or doing is repelling others. It's not because you're nice, plenty of nice men have wives and happy families. It's not because how you look. It's likely a behavior.
Do you suffer from depression? Anger issues? At some point, your mask for whatever it is inevitably slips, and every time that happens, whoever you're talking to leaves. You need to figure out what that problem is and fix it, is my guess.
>>34298745
If you don't like the taste, tell your partner so she can adjust her diet. A lot of people eat like shit, male or female, and then they dont realize they don't taste good. Especially Americans.

>>34298857
I'm generalizing based on a consistent pattern that has been observed by me and by other people.
Again, I have friends, family members, coworkers, etc. in my life that don't express any concerns like what you're implying.
I've never been to therapy Never been diagnosed with anything either. I don't think I'm the problem.

>>34298371
Yes, you absolutely have to lie, because if you don't you get judged by women like this >>34298528, which is ironic, because you then start the relationship off based on a lie, creating the very red flags they're so afraid of. A fucking Catch 22.

But you want my honest opinion? Don't lie. Tell the truth. It will filter out women like this >>34298569. Nothing you do will ever be good enough for them. They will always judge you. Always find a reason.

There are women out there who don't care if you don't have dating experience. You'll just have to keep looking.

>>34298666
>my last ex was 5'1 and fat with no job yet.
Lemme guess, he had a face like Brad Pitt, and a massive penis.

>He was very kind in the beginning though...unfortunately his insecurities lead to us splitting
Lemme guess, you got bored of his kindness and wanted something more exciting. Probably someone with a lot of money.

>>34298744
Never take dating advice from women. They have no idea how hard it is to be a man.

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>>34298689
>That sounds interesting, how did it go down?
My fiancée likes making innuendos to our sex life in front of people. We were having lunch with her friends and she asked me to get her another drink. When I got up, she swatted my butt in front of everyone. Then when I got back, she pulled me into her lap, started scratching my chin, and telling them I was a good pet but sometimes my leash needs a yank and such.

For reference, we do petplay and other BDSM stuff.

>>34298733
I personally don't think there is any shame in that. But again, if you don't feel comfortable being honest, this is one of those scenarios where there's no harm in lying.

>>34298745
>femanons, how do you feel about sexual partners (guys or girls really) that aren't into eating out?
At this point in my life, it's non-negotiable. Especially if they expect oral.

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>>34298934
Did /r9k/ kick you out or something?

>>34298942
Fuck off.

>>34298945
Nah.

>>34298934
Ack im the boogeywoman!!! It's true...
I thought he was cute yes. I don't believe its respectful to say anything else. I think you sound very victimized by yourself, burning in a hell you continuously reignite yourself. I think to aspire to be like you would be a mistake. If you are a man who doesnt want to listen to women, that's fine, but don't listen to other men who are miserable. That is only a way to stay just as miserable as he is. If you may only accept advise from other men, make sure it's a man in a good relationship, with a wife he adores and children that between them both are well taken care of. If a man has nothing, he will lead you to nothing as well, even if you are another man yourself.

>>34298993
>I thought he was cute yes
I knew it :D

>If you may only accept advise from other men, make sure it's a man in a good relationship
Yes, exactly. Never take fishing advice from the fish. Ask the fisherman.

>>34298356
Aryan OP

>>34298371
Probably off-putting but who gives a shit type thing. Unless you have to for some reason, you ideally won't start knot brained relationships with ppl who you enjoy interacting with but have an irreconcilable issue with. If you were to lie to date a woman who would otherwise not be interested or tally some imaginary score board where you lost a point if you told her about your lack of dating experience, wouldn't SHE be off-putting?

>>34299019
You should always find the person that you're with cute. My friends didnt think so, but I did, and thats all that mattered. Do you think you're ugly?

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>>34298356
Fellow guys
What do you talk about to women that are strangers?
I feel like it's easy to talk to guys I'm meeting for the first time but when it comes to women I'm a deer in head lights.

>>34298609
No, its your life, you get to decide for yourself which traits you find acceptable. Im curious how did you come to the conclusion there is a universal law about this?

>>34299241
It's what women consistently say they want, and men like that have much more success with dating.
Of course, it's probably a mistake to believe that women have any idea what they want.

>>34299257
Women literally don't know what they want, they are literally just niggers who need to be convinced they want something. Sure they might "want" 6'0 but they're retards who just don't know what they want. Sorry not sorry to women, just being honest in all of my experience with you. Because y'all are kinda niggers…

>>34299263
>>34299257
Then why don't you listen to other men and get women that way? I assume this will be not only very easy, but additionally highly successful for you! I know it'll work, since you believe in it so deeply!
Maybe "Ask the opposite gender" isn't quite for you though...perhaps "Ask the same gender" would work better in your case!

>>34299279
Are you retarded?
Wait, stupid question. No need to answer.

>>34299290
What makes you think that?

>>34299292
You're a foid, for one thing. And you seem to think other men would know more about women than women do, which is retarded because they only place they could get it is from women. But women are retarded and don't know what they want.

>>34299296
So do women know what they want or do men know? No one knows what women want? Women are that complex, no man can understand? Not even your father did? Then how did your mother get pregnant? It was consensual...right...?

>>34299301
My mom let her high school boyfriend fuck her and that's how she got pregnant with me.
No one knows what women want. You have to be able to communicate and know what you want for other people to know, and women are too retarded to do those things.

>>34299279
Because those niggers are niggers who try to scam other men.

>>34299320
Then who knows what to do? Who should you listen to?
>>34299315
So no one knows what women want, and women are too retarded to communicate. Then no couples exist anymore, right? No ones dating, no ones in love. Or are they? How can there be couples in love, but no one knows what women want? Every day there are hundreds of weddings, anniversary celebrations, babies birthed between married couples-but no one knows what women want! This is very mysterious and fun to me. Your mother had sex with basically a stranger you're saying, and so all of our mothers did that I guess is the logic, so going by your logic...women love sex with strangers. ..Then why arent they having sex with you? Were you having sex in high school too? Your father did, so it must have been easy.

>>34299336
I've had hookups with women.
My beliefs about women have very little to do with my mother and her choices.
Women can do what feels good in the moment, and that can lead to dates, sex, even relationships and babies. But that's the thing, you have to make them excited in the moment, and who knows what will get that reaction out of them? Certainly not women themselves.

>>34298940
Is this little shiver as hot to you as it is to me?
https://files.catbox.moe/b9yizk.mp4 (nsfw kitty warning)

>>34299348
I feel like you just don't understand women and are projecting this on everyone else, including women. Kinda sad.

>>34299348
But your mother is a woman too, so by default she is included in everything you're saying. So you're saying that in order to have a woman around, you have to keep her excited all the time? So men who are married that have boring jobs, and only come home and talk to his wife and kids..how are they keeping their wives excited? How did they get married in the first place? If women don't know what makes them excited, then how do they know what to turn down? Also, if you're very successful with women, then why are you on 4chan in the middle of the night writing multiple times about how difficult dating is for you? I thought it was easy then...? Are you struggling, or do you have it easy? You seem to know how we work just fine. What problems do you have again..?

>>34298553
>If a guy is in his 30s and has no dating experience, he'll likely take whatever he can get
Nah, if you do that you end up with some jaded bitch like >>34298528 who'll get pissy when you expect her to behave like a woman who isn't burned out by a thousand cocks.

>>34299355
No. Women reject men who have everything women say they want.
Of course, you wouldn't know anything about that, because you never even leave your house. Shut up.
>>34299357
I didn't say I was "very successful" with women, I said I've had hookups before.
Sure, women end up in relationships with boring men. That's how you get dead bedrooms, cheating, and open relationships.
You really are retarded.

>>34299367
I'd say I'm more reliable on the subject than... whatever you are.

>>34299371
Is that supposed to be a joke? Because it's not a very good one.

>>34299358
What makes you think I'm jaded? and if I'm jaded, then how would I end up with anon anyway? My expectations would be too high, wouldnt they?
>>34299367
Women reject men who have everything we say we want. So we just meet someone and instantly we know that he has everything we say we want, but we reject them anyway. Who do we go to then? Who keeps winning, if its not who we want? Is it who you want? Well it cant be, because you want it to be you, but it's never you-so who keeps winning if its not who women want and its not who you want either?

You said that women only chase excitement, but now concede that that isnt always true, however now if they don't choose excitement, the direct result is always cheating and sexless lives. Who do you know like that? If women actually do end up with boring men, then why have none still wound up with you?

>>34299377
Women ignore their wants and needs if a guy shows up who excites them. You asked how they know who to turn down? They don't which is why they end up with abusers, losers, etc. It's just whoever gets them excited in the moment.
That excitement can also be present in the beginning of the relationship before the guy gets boring. This is particularly true if a guy puts a lot of effort in to be someone he's not, and when he stops putting in that effort, she finds excitement somewhere else. I'm not going to try to be someone I'm not.

>>34299257
Ok i think i see where youre coming from. You see yourself and other men you dont conside attractive and how you dont manage to get dates, while women you dont consider attractive still get dates.
I think the issue is that 99% of women, even if they are fat and poor an whatever, they still shower every day, still try to dress nice, take care of their hair, are reasonably polite and pleasant to be around, etc--while thats not necessarily the case for men.
So what i would do in your place is at least try, as most wome at least try, before deciding you dont have a chance because of unfair laws.

>>34299386
So every woman is currently with an abuser, making every single successful man abusive. Everything is about excitement, and love and bonds just arent real. Grandparents are together for so many years because for all that time, even into their 80s, the man is exciting his little old lady-but also, he's abusing her too.
The only way for you to ever get a gf is to be abusive and exciting, but you're loving and boring, so you'll just never find someone ever. You're loving, in a world where love doesnt exist, because love is actually excitement. Anon, you want to be excited. Which liking to be excited means you like to be abused. Is that why you've been talking to me for so long? or is that why you keep trying to date in general?

>>34299394
I didn't say women only end up with abusers. I said they end up with abusers sometimes because they only chase excitement.
I don't want excitement. I want a nice girl who loves me and wants to start a family.
I imagine old people stay together because it's easier than trying to date in your 60s, and less complicated for everyone else in their lives too.
>>34299393
And what, you think I'm just some degenerate slob who doesn't shower, pisses in bottles, and wears nothing but gym shorts and stained t-shirts? Are you retarded?
I'm 6'2", not a fatass, make good money, dress and groom myself decently well and I do have social skills. I keep my place clean and it's furnished well, and I go outside regularly.

>>34299406
Well you said they all chase excitement. There is no such thing as a woman who likes a boring man. Except there is, but those women pick those men and then all hate them no matter what. Which loops back to women only want excitement and nothing else.
You don't want excitement though, you want to be boring. and you don't want a woman who likes boring men because 1. they dont exist, but 2. when they do, they are also wrong, and terrible, and dirty and useless.
You don't like women who need excitement and you don't like women who don't need excitement.
You want a girl who will start a family with you, but all women want is excitement, which you have none of and don't like.

You're 6'2, not fat, make good money, dress and smell great, and have amazing social skills in your 30s, with your own place, and also you go outside regularly. But you're not exciting, and women don't like you, all because you're everything they want. You are the most punished man in this world. Perfect, yet brutally ignored. Left with only two types of women in on this planet-both of which, you don't like. You're really brave..you know that? I think I speak for us all when I say we admire youre strength. The determination and will to press on, with everything stacked against you. Keep your head up, anon.

>>34299406
>you think I'm just some degenerate slob
I dont know you and wasnt trying to offend you, i was trying to understand why you wrote the things that you wrote.

>>34299419
You are very, very stupid. Try not to choke on your own drool, dumbass.

>>34299422
I'm just left staggered by how perfect you are. You've made me realize that you really are right-about everything you've said here, tonight. You're exactly what we've all been looking for. You're everything that I have ever wanted in my life, but.... I don't want you either. And I guess it's because ultimately, I must not know what I want either. Because look at you. Right here, right now, I've met the most amazing man to ever exist. He really has it all, and I'm actually missing out. Tall, handsome, argues online all day well into the night...but you're looking for love, and we women don't like love. We only want excitement. Nothing about this was exciting, so I guess I'm going to have to leave you a goodbye text too. Just like all the other women before me, in your life. I know..foolish. but you're just too good. You're everything a woman can want. And so I don't want you. Because I want what I don't want. and that's to go pee really badly right now and then stare at excel sheets.
It's not you, ok? It's me. I'm sorry. For everything. Goodbye...

>>34299444
I never said or implied I was even close to perfect. But I think it's reasonable to expect that I should be able to get a girlfriend.
I hope you miss the toilet, slip and fall on your piss, and break your neck on the side of the bathtub.

>>34299455
I didn't, but a little bit tried to go down the side of my buttcheek. Blasted it with the bidet. Ok I really have to focus and then sleep soon. I was just playing with you the majority of this time, youre kind of sensitive though. Bit stiff. If you got a sense of humor, you'd be fine. Take shit less seriously and you'll meet someone. Goodnight, dumbass.

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>>34298411
>Does it mean anything if a girl talks to you about her period?
>>34298528
>>34298612
Two very distinct answers to this question, and yet, both are somehow true. You'll really need to examine this in relation to other behaviours to find out which camp you're in.

>>34298378
Posture, body language, facial expressions. People just kinda know when you're weak. If you want to be perceived as weak, present yourself in an opposing manner. Learn how to stand properly, learn what your body language means. Often this is subconscious, but you can learn to acknowledge what you're doing subconsciously and make conscious changes. eg. stop putting your hands in your pockets, or folding your arms when you meet new people.

>>34298363
These are some of the only threads on /soc/ that aren't inundated with penises and homosexuals, don't you bloody dare try to take this from me.

>>34299469
I do have a sense of humor. And like I said, I wasn't always like this. I'm never like this in person. I keep things casual and light in person.

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>>34298371
If you know how to present yourself, this topic seldom comes up. I learned how to make myself appear more attractive, and now it always surprises people when I'm a virgin. I'm 35, for relative context.

>>34299238
Need a bit more information here, are you meeting in a 3rd space here, or are you just cold approaching? Cold-approaching, generally speaking, doesn't work that often, so I wouldn't strip your gears about that. I usually meet women at dinner parties, so it's usually a case "who do you know", etc. or because I'm usually helping with the hosting, some kind of quip about having a night off.

>>34299492
>I usually meet women at dinner parties
I've never been to a dinner party before.
I mostly just see women at the gym or at the grocery store.

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>>34298356

40/m.

Never really had a relationship, once 'official' gf when i was 28 for a month. I feel like I'm a crimson red flag.

Not a virgin, but only had sex once.

Feel like it's too late for me to try anymore? I just might be too far gone to ever have a relationship/

>>34298609
It's more like that that's the standard for high-maintenance smokeshows but for average women, most men fail the first hurdle of
>genuinely being supportive
>understanding
>not a absolute manchild
so might as well aim for a 9 that's just as much bf material as a 6.
But also there are women happy to date within their league so they either bag the one genuinely good man in a 30 mile radius, they hop from shit relationship-to-shit relationship and eventually land in a doomed marriage, or just abstain from relationships altogether.

Not to mention that men's standards of "not being a bitch" means that you're a complete doormat that never challenges his opinion in anyway and blindly go along with whatever he thinks is right.

>>34299238
I love to talk about cooking, housecare, latest recipe I've tried, maybe my pets if there's any indicator of them also being a pet person or I want to continue the conversation to see if they have similar values/takes on things I hold dear
>>34299480
Yeah not it I'm 6'5 and well built/on scholarship here. just social recluse asf

If a girl posts an insta while I’m browsing, is it okay for me to like it as soon as I see it (like two minutes after she posted) or would that be seen as creepy?

Should I wait a bit before liking it? How long should I wait?

>>34299996
Absolutely delusional. I've never even been given the opportunity to demonstrate the first two, and I'm not a manchild at all.
"Not being a bitch" doesn't mean being a doormat, either. It just means not treating me like shit, not constantly trying to undermine me or tear me down, and not acting cold or hostile toward me all the time.

>>34300629
I'd say 20 - 30 mins. I get creeped out easily, but there are other girls who like the attention.

>>34299996
There's so much wrong here, I just have to dig in.
>genuinely being supportive
By which you mean being a complete doormat who never challenges your opinion in any way, and blindly goes along with whatever you think is right? It can be difficult to show empathy and provide constructive feedback, criticism, and counsel to someone who believes anything they feel is valid or believe is sacrosanct, simply because it's rooted in their feelings or beliefs, and unfortunately, that describes the majority of women.
>understanding
It's kind of ironic that so many women just expect every man to possess therapist levels of emotional intelligence, while simultaneously making no attempt to understand men, and in fact, often never considering there may be something to understand to begin with.
>not a absolute manchild
Listen, when you're right, you're right. A significant portion of the male population needs to spend less time smoking weed, jerking off, and playing video games, but are we seriously pretending perpetual adolescence isn't the norm for modern women?
>so might as well aim for a 9 that's just as much bf material as a 6
This logic makes sense, just so long as you're fine being treated as a disposable bangmaid. It's worth considering that the 6 might not be perfect, but he's exponentially more likely to give an honest effort in the first place, not to mention far less likely to lack the means and inclination to have other hoes.

What a lot of women fail to realize, and I suspect this includes you, about the kind of men all women want... is that *all* women want them, and unless you're an exceptionally attractive woman of significant female virtue, the odds of one picking you are effectively zero.

Now, I understand that, like most women, you probably genuinely believe you are exceptional, but given that you think there is only one genuinely good man in a 30 mile radius (if all your relationships are shit, you're the problem) I can assure you, you're not.

>>34300660
Hey, I

>>34298620
gave you some homework. The very obvious lesson is question is this: be attractive. Don't get bitter, get disciplined. Don't cry about what isn't fair, play to win. If your body, finances, and mindset aren't dialed in, then complaining about how women are is effectively pissing into the wind. Anyway,
>It just means not treating me like shit, not constantly trying to undermine me or tear me down, and not acting cold or hostile toward me all the time
Anon speaks the truth. To any ladies reading this, I truly believe a 6 can get any man she wants so long is she is appreciative, affectionate, loyal, and knows the importance of making her man look good in front of his peers. It's really that easy.

>>34301465
I could lose a bit of weight but otherwise I don't have any issues in that regard. That's part of the problem, I feel like I'm doing almost everything right and still getting rejected and ghosted constantly.

Mental how shit women are with straight men. Easiest beings on the planet to please and they still fail.

>>34301433
anon I don't think that's what anyone think supportive or understanding means unless they're genuinely fucking retarded. I do hard agree though, a lot of men don't really need much beyond a 6-7 as long as there's actual virtue and basic household skills in a woman. Women are too busy seeking out men who have no intention of settling down or leaving the dating pool because they think they'll get social status, and it's VERY obvious when that's the case. It never ends well. There are plenty of basic attractive people out there with good virtues as long as one can also maintain that for themselves.
>>34301465
It really is that fucking easy.

>>34301501
I think at some point during the boomer generational temper tantrum women stopped maturing. I don't know if it's psychic damage from hypersexualisation or they're just spoiled but there's a level of maturity to much older women and/or those who grew up in traditional, poorer cultures you just don't see in American women. Really depressing.

That aside, question for women: How do I find girls who are boring and easygoing but NOT some kind of secret freak fujo pedophile anorexic?

>>34300629
I'd say wait a little, doesn't have to be really long but give it a few minutes at least and then like it.

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Hi atoga! Started working out a few months ago. I think i've been making some progress. What do you think?
>Used to be a skeleton

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I had no idea there was a /soc/ atoga.

All the men here are horny idiots and all the women here are just idiots.

No different from /adv/ atoga.

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Do you guys think this is sociologically sustainable?

>>34302131
Clearly it isn't.

>>34302131
>Society tries
Delusion
>Everyone pretends
Cope

>>34301492
>I could lose a bit of weight
This is dishonest language, just say you're kinda fat. Also, stop being fat. Also, can you bench 2 plates for reps? I ask because that is a very attainable goal (as in, can be reached from DYEL status by lifting three times a week with progressive overload in a year or less) that less than 1% of the population is capable of. Even if someone is broke, they can get shredded, and walking around knowing you're superior to 99% of the male population at something/anything does wonders for your self-esteem and mindset.
>I feel like I'm doing almost everything right
Well, and I mean no offense, clearly you're not. I don't know you so I can't really assess you in depth, but I'm kind of getting the vibe that you have a "good enough" mindset, and that doesn't exactly inspire excitement in the fairer sex. What I mean is, you speak in terms like...
>I could lose a bit of weight
>I make decent money
>I kind of know what I want
>I feel OK, I guess
It gives the impression that you want to put *just* enough effort into life that someone/anyone will settle for you. Maybe I'm wrong, but that is the vibe I'm getting from our limited interaction, and perhaps women are picking up on this as well. Only you can know for sure if I'm on to something, or just talking out of my ass.

>>34301735
>I don't think that's what anyone think supportive or understanding means
The type of women like the one I was quoting do, and the point was more I was twisting their own words to highlight their hypocrisy.
>It really is that fucking easy
I unceremoniously dismissed my rotation of 7s, 8s, and occasionally a 9 (when she had time for me, I can't compete with literal celebrities... yet) and never looked back, purely because I met a 6 who makes me feel loved, appreciated, understood, and safe, whose relationship and life goals aligned with mine.

>>34302050
Nice! You doing any lateral raises?

>>34302131
Ahem... no.

>>34302226
You have no clue what you're talking about and you should stop replying to people.

>>34298356
Women if penis in vagina doesn't actually feel good why do you use dildos

>>34302279
Have you ever considered the fact that these are probably 2 groups of people
If there's overlap, it's probably because they like it in combination with clit stimulation
Or maybe they bought it before realising it just wasn't for them

>>34302226
>You doing any lateral raises?
Yeah! Recently started a few weeks ago. Chest fly as well

how do I make myself less boring to women? I'm a homebody, so my schedule is basically just work/gym/reading or vidya/sleep. I do go on a scuba trip once per year, but that doesn't seem to hold their interest beyond the first 5 or so pictures from my last trip. I'm open to doing new stuff if they suggest it but it never seems like they do. I can hold a conversation about any number of topics, politics, cooking, the books I've read, my job, you name it but that doesn't seem to help either.

What makes a man interesting?

>>34302500
also I've been told that I have a very sexy voice, to the point where women would repeatedly call my work number on the weekend to listen to my voicemail greeting (they were all 70+ unfortunately). How can I best leverage this?

>>34302401
Does it feel good for you?

Wish femanons would post their hands, instead all they do is demand, demand, demand...

Wait it’s been a while since I’ve been on /soc/ are women actually trying to SELL pictures of themselves?

>>34302822
Grow up.

>>34302753
>hand fetish
the fuck?

>>34303056
Who shit in your cornflakes this morning bro cause it wasn’t me

>>34301465
>I truly believe a 6 can get any man she wants so long is she is appreciative, affectionate, loyal, and knows the importance of making her man look good in front of his peers. It's really that easy.

And not expect any reciprocation of those values. All this talk about women being loyal, affectionate, and making him look good in front of his peers, and men rarely show the same values towards women who absolutely do.
Most men will never show affection or love to a woman's interests or goals unless it's the bare minimum for her to still show you affection. Most men will absolutely embarass their girlfriends and intentionally get a rise out of them just so they look cool to their own friends. Men want peace but aren't willing to also give peace to their wives life. Wanting to be loved but not wanting to love.
I do think women should be loyal, affectionate, and caring towards their lovers. But men should also have those traits, that's what alot of men, hot or average-looking, have a problem with. I defintley see alot more women being loving and supportive towards their bf/husbands than the other way around.

>>34299238
I don't talk to women who are strangers unless I'm at work (bartender), I just make small talk and riff off them and have a laugh about things

>>34303427
Doing that makes women lose interest more often than not. Men are by no means perfect but you really need to understand that your perception of yourself is deeply at odds with how you actually act and what will actually induce feelings of love and security in you. Perfectly egalitarian reciprocity usually isn't the correct mindset when it comes to love, much as I deeply wish it was.

>>34298940
That’s a hot story, thanks for sharing.

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>>34299996
>Not to mention that men's standards of "not being a bitch" means that you're a complete doormat that never challenges his opinion in anyway and blindly go along with whatever he thinks is right.

The remarkable thing about men is, we mean exactly what we say. When we say all a woman has to do is "not be a bitch", we literally mean "don't be a bitch". It's incredibly vexing seeing how some of you can speak to people in the public forum and have no consequences for doing so purely because you're a woman.

>>34301433
Why does everyone talk about embitterment this way, as if it's some sort of on/off switch? "Don't be bitter"; well, I'm sure the guy in question just never thought of that!

>>34298371
You just don't have to tell people. Worked for the US army for ages.

>>34302458
Nice. Lat raises are worth doing at least 3X a week; if you could only do three exercises it should be lat raise, pull-ups/lat pulldown, and incline bench press.

>>34303427
Serious question: have you ever considered that you might be the problem?

>>34304278
This. Treat her like a queen, she'll treat you like a pawn.

>>34306799
>It's incredibly vexing seeing how some of you can speak to people in the public forum and have no consequences for doing so purely because you're a woman
Thank you for putting this so perfectly.
>Why does everyone talk about embitterment this way, as if it's some sort of on/off switch
Because being able to comport yourself as if it is something you can just switch off is the goal, and because it's inherently an unproductive and often self-destructive mindset. I get that emotions can be a motherfucker, and you can't really control how you feel all the time, but I also believe one of the most important habits you can cultivate as a man in the pursuit of a success and long term happiness as a man is the habit of doing what needs to be done, regardless of how you may feel. Men, and this is especially true of men without power and influence, don't get to do what they "feel" like doing. You know who gets to do what they "feel" like doing? Beautiful women. Beautiful women can wake up every day and just sort of wing it and the world will make everything falls into place for her. We don't have that luxury. Anon is lonely and unhappy. Regardless of what he, or I, or you think or feel about it, Anon ultimately has one of two choices.

1. Identify his shortcomings, address them, and become more attractive.

2. Stay sad, lonely, and bitter.
>You just don't have to tell people
Underrated strategy.

>>34306799
Do you have a fetish for Denzel Washington or something?

>>34309424
Ugh, fortunately NO

>>34306799
Monicaaaa

Long time listener, first time caller.
I spend most of my time on the blue side of chan.

What does it mean when my body gets aroused at the same time every day?
F

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Is being a divorced dad an immediate deal breaker for most women? I feel like it is.

I'm mid 20s, body count of one. Would like to find a girl the same race as me (white) around the same age with less than four bodies so answers from that demographic would be most appreciated

>>34309471
Do you tend to satisfy that arousal? If so it may just be your body getting into a rhythm, similar to getting hungry at the same times every day because that's when it's used to being fed. If not, it's probably just a hormonal thing.

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>>34309424
Kek. No. When I first started posting in these threads, I had just watched Training Day, and it just became a calling card, if sorts.

>>34309468
Who the fuck's Monica?

>>34306799
I do have to point out that both men and women have been shitty in these threads and called out for it, so it's wild that being a talking point.
>>34309400
Oh no. Treat her like a queen, she'll treat you like a pawn, then trying to to disagree with her when she said the same thing, just in a different way. It's almost like some women have a standard of being treated like a queen, but others are going to exploit it. Let's not act like it's a monolith.
not to mention haven't you called out women for being bitter and been rude about it, but then you justify it by saying you can't just turn it off? that's weird.

It's not even I disagree with either of these, shit should be called out, I just strongly dislike the double standard here. It's incredibly vexxing seeing men get bitter about women then trying to act like women who are bitter are the problem. I agree with her, most men don't appreciate loyal women, hence when I originally agreed I emphasized "ready to settle down moral men" and not just any men. Let's not act like most men, or women, are good people. Most are pieces of garbage who will exploit at worst, and at best use because it's convenient. A lot of men hold on to good women until they're ready to settle down and will dispose of them simply because they wanted them as an option until it was time for their decision. But god forbid a woman calls out men's shitty behavior, meanwhile men are allowed to get bitter about female behavior because "you can't just turn that off".

>>34298356
My ex gf broke up with me and blocked me on everything 2 months ago but has been stalking me and seemingly catfished me two times from posts I've made here. Does she regret not being with me anymore? What does this all mean? wtf lol

>>34310510
She hates you and enjoys making you suffer

Why can't females enjoy and appreciate basic decency and companionship? Why do females pretend to care about equality and humanity but then act so hateful and opposed to the idea of being with non chads or accepting equality in relationships?

>>34311654
Who let you out of /r9k/?

Ari is that you?

>>34310553
are you her?

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@ Women, not troons
Why?

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>>34309583
When I say "treat her like a queen, she'll treat you like a pawn" I'm not advising or encouraging men to treat the women in their life like shit, I'm cautioning them against letting said women believe their love is unconditional, and encouraging them to remember to make their owns needs a priority. Women may like the idea of the Hallmark Channel boyfriend, but the reality is those guys tend to get taken for granted.
>but then you justify it by saying you can't just turn it off?
Are you sure you don't have me confused with someone else? I've been saying almost the exact opposite of that. My mindset is this: a man cannot necessarily control how he feels, but he can control how he expresses those feelings; how I feel in a given moment does not factor into whether or not I will or won't do what I am supposed to do. Spoilers: I will.

That said, I tend to match the energy I'm given, and as it happens some of the femanons ITT idle at being a cunt.
>Let's not act like most men, or women, are good people
See, now that I can align to. The issue is that most women have committed to the lie that women are inherently virtuous beings who can do no wrong, and always act from a position of enlightenment. Many such examples ITT.
>But god forbid a woman calls out men's shitty behavior
In what first world country? Women incessantly and shamelessly talk mad shit about men on every public platform, and said men don't even have to be doing anything particularly shitty; we can be demonized for something as innocuous and reasonable as having standards, preferences, and boundaries. Then, of course, there's the not so public platforms; you wanna talk about AWDTSG?
>so it's wild that being a talking point
I believe that Anon was referring to interactions and discourse taking place on conventional social media, and/or face to face; a thread on /soc/ isn't a good representation of society as a whole.

Women, I have a long distance relationship with someone with an avoidant personality. Like we are talking weeks without talking to me then coming back all lovely dovey later like nothing happened. Am I being a doormat by accepting this behavior or should I take her word about her mental challenges. My biggest fear is that she is straight up lying to me and has shit like another discord/irl boyfriends and is just stringing me along.

>>34317168
>Am I being a doormat
Yes. We teach people how to treat us, and what we abide, we encourage.
>take her word about her mental challenges
Even then, you run into another issue of her simply not being equipped to be in a relationship, let alone a long-distance one, which are notoriously hard to make work. Frankly, it sounds like she's using an "avoidant personality" to justify being a shitty girlfriend.
>My biggest fear
Occam's razor is hard to argue with. That said, you probably shouldn't go making accusations with zero proof. Whatever is going on, she clearly has something in her life that takes priority over you. My advice to you is this: talk to her about your concerns, and avoid using accusatory language (meaning, say things like "I'm feeling" rather than "you're making me feel") and just let her know what your concerns are and why you're not happy. Just understand that, if you reach an impasse, you've got to be willing to walk away.

Maleanons, when a situationship ends and she goes completely no contact, what are the actions she takes afterward that frustrate or haunt you the most? What tempts you to break the no contact?

>>34318278
Saying horrible things about me publicly on social media, like calling me a creep or stalker. But it makes me want nothing to do with her.

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How much time do girls really spend on their appearance? I've only really discovered that there were any girls playing video games, or lurking around forums/the chans very recently, within the past couple of years.

In malls, the female shopping space, there's only clothes shops as far as the eye can see.
Makeup is pretty much universally worn among girls.
Pretty much any girl I've met, they consider working/experimenting with some aspect of their appearance to be some kind of hobby (nails, etc.)
As for Internet sites, I had this impression that the only places you would find girls on were Facebook and Instagram, two sites also very oriented around on sharing photos.
But you couldn't be so focused on their appearance that you don't have time for anything else could you?

In that case, why does it still seem like girls who own/use a computer and meaningfully engage with the Internet seem to be so vanishingly rare? To me, and at least most men I've ever mixed with (I guess there are the sorts who find clubbing or watching sport and stuff fun instead), doing things on the computer seem to be pretty much the only fulfilling use of free time.

>>34320038
I should have done an editing pass.

For women, have you ever been the keyholder for a guy locked in chastity? If so, what was the experience like?

>>34320038
I don't think gender's being that explicitly mentioned in most conversation to show evidence that we're present on the Internet.

To be honest compared to normies I feel more comfortable online then in my 'traditional gender communities'. That might be due to years of Internet brain rot but the same could be applied to all of yall.

When you mentioned you've often seen women in Facebook or IG it's because there's evidence of their gender there. I feel no need to bring it up online when discussing the latest KCDII DLC because it's irrelevant. In addition, bringing up my gender is more than likely to bring up some unsavoury behaviour I'm not seeking.

It's hard to feel at home when I'm constantly being badgered like a rare species (although honestly it's been getting better in recent years).

So I disagree that it's becoming vanishing rare. I think it's becoming more common in more mainstream of the Internet while less common in the shadier parts because we've learnt to disguised it better. No point showing something just for attention.

>>34320514
That all makes sense. I guess that it's not that it's becoming more rare, but just that women are being less private about their presence.
What about your appearance though, do women really pay as much care and attention to it as all of society seems to suggest they do? If I were a girl, I just know for sure that I would never be assed to do anything like that.

>>34320571
I meant to type LESS rare. I've got complete keyboard aphasia.

Women, or I guess men too but less relevantly: What would you think if you were asked by some guy to go for a long forest walk (2-3h+) just to talk? I often feel that I'd like to simply speak to and get to understand a person I've only known on the very surface level a bit better even if I don't really want to build much of a friendship, and for reasons this would be just about the only type of encounter I'd feel comfortable during (out of city, not staring each other down over a table) but I'm afraid of suggesting too much. Is it too personal, or even datelike? I've heard foreigners say that it would even feel rapey, although the paths around here are very well trafficked. Congested, even. If it matters I've been told I'm seen as silent, aloof, calm, but a loner and odd. I speak low and slow and very softly, and I supposedly look fine but maybe slightly dangerous. If I risk being seen as a creep demanding to get close to people I'd rather just take a Kempis's advice and stay out of people's business completely.

>>34320571
Honestly I want to flip the perspective and ask why don't men care about their appearance as much.

Makeup, perfume, fashion etc, is a good physical embodiment of how your personality.

Personally I never cared much about my appearance until hitting puberty when I realised people pay more attention to me when I start to display myself like the ideal me in my head.

Even more so as I learnt about make up and stuff from my sister.

Society Imo is also shifting in non-traditional standards for beauty in a way that people get more comfortable in the appearance for the better. It used to be fashion conglomerates setting the standard for what's considered beautiful, now it's slowly shifting to the people themselves setting it.

Of course you'll be more confident if you look the way you desire. That confidence spreads to those that see you, and wanting to be comfortable and having that identity is what all humans crave. It's a shame for men because I think most don't see the subtle differences between someone with light make up VS someone that doesn't. Concealers and toners make a giant difference in how you look but is subtle enough to be brushed off as natural.

Im not sure about how society from your perspective is showing it but from mine, it seems like a major improvement from the 2000s where women are easily shamed for not conforming.

Make up and fashion in general are geared towards women that's why women tends to be the ones wearing them. If I were to gender bent you right now you won't give two shifts for a while but i trust eventually you'll feel comfortable exploring those options hust for your own benefit. To get attention, to look in the mirror and be happy about yourself, to not worry so much about that glaring pimple in your face.

It's natural for us because it's not a social taboo

>>34311654
You call women "Females". That alone makes me hate you.

>>34302500
I think you need to find someone as weird as you. Sorry if it sounds rude, but that's how my boyfriend and I met.

Hope you find someone.

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>>34321659
>Makeup, perfume, fashion etc, is a good physical embodiment of your personality.
I think that there are almost no men that believe this or that'd even say they believe it, and in fact the majority of them probably believe the opposite; that it's instead deception and making yourself out to be what you're not. It's possible I've lost touch because that's just the kind of people I hang around, but I'm really pretty confident in this claim

>>34299492
>If you know how to present yourself, this topic seldom comes up. I learned how to make myself appear more attractive, and now it always surprises people when I'm a virgin. I'm 35, for relative context.
well i get asked if i'm married, then gf, etc. and it's always followed up with prodding. right now i just shrug and walk off like a dickhead

for the boys: if you met an older woman (let's say 30 and up) who was still a virgin, what would you think is wrong with her?

>>34321870
i'd assume she's probably really picky and thinks no guy is good enough for her

>>34321870
I wouldn't make any assumptions, but I would be curious what got her there.

>>34321870
I'm 31. I would be worried about what >>34321877 said, she either has insanely high standards or she's terrified of men, and either way we probably aren't going to work.

>>34321724
That's not rude, thank you for the advice. How did you and your boyfriend meet?

>>34321870
Assuming there's nothing obvious like that she's super fat or ugly (or used to be super fat) I'd probably assume that she is/was doing it for religious reasons, that she's afraid of men, or just super asocial.

>>34321870
emotional issues, fear of relationships, possibly past abuse, etc. all getting in the way of getting close to someone. although I'm having to base this assumption on some really broken people I've known because I can't really remember meeting a functional person like that. maybe some kind of true asexual would fit. but it'd always have to be a very individual judgement, i suppose, difficult to say without getting to know the person at least a little first

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>>34321867
Again, there is no obligation for you to answer these things. I mean, I'm not saying you should lie about being married, but you don't have to answer continued probing. In a situation like that where they keep probing, I'd rebut with something like, "that's more of a 5th date question", or something.

>>34321870
Earnestly, I'd assume the same as this anon in the first instance; >>34321877. In a romantic context, I'd subsequently assume I was being settled for, and it probably wouldn't work, even with a religious connotation to it.

>>34321752
Can't say I've ever really stopped to examine this.

>>34320955
It would sound a lot less rapey if you just said "do you want to go on a hike?"

>>34322127
Yeah I guess. Framing it as for the purpose of the activity is good. Too bad the word doesn't exist in my language and hiking as a hobby refers to multi-day camping since everyone walks trails here

>>34298356
are there any girls out there who wouldn't mind if a guy has a loli fetish? Like if I imagine myself as a shota and a loli is groping me, etc.?
I don't fantasize about abusing lolis and don't watch photorealistic shit. Also no real life attraction to children. Needed to clear that up because I know the types of comments I otherwise would get.

>>34321888
He noticed the character on my wallpaper. You should find a common ground and then talk:3

If youre not creepy, the worst they can say to you is not.

How exactly does female horniness work?

>>34298356
Ok, went to a wedding on the weekend.

Girl my husband lost his virginity to (and only other girl he has slept with) was there. They exchanged hello pleasantries, and did a quick catch up. Introduced him to her child. (We haven't seen her in 5 years) She touched his shoulder 5ish times during our maybe 5+ minute talk. Mentioned her feet killing because she hasn't worn heels in ages (this prompted him to look down at her feet, he is into feet btw) then squeezed his shoulder saying it was good seeing him when she cut their conversation short to say hello to his other family members.

Was this a power play? Think she knows about him being into feet which is why she just had to mention hers? And would you say that was inappropriate touching on her behalf?

When she initiated contact she squeezed him on the shoulder then my husband noticed it was her, stood up to hug and kisses each other on the cheek, something he did with other females but I noticed he stood up for her but with other females they all leant down to cheek to cheek kiss/hug him while he sat. She then said hello to me and leant down to hug/kiss me. He literally only stood to shake hands with his uncle's and to hug/kiss her. She then touched him a bunch of times on his shoulder during their talk before giving him another squeeze when she ended their conversation.

He didn't interact with her for the rest of the night. Then on the way home he mentioned things she was talking about and mentioned her a few times like if I think she would have more kids etc. Am I being irrational for feeling weird? Why would he stand to greet her but didn't stand for other females?

>>34318278
You being the type of person to ask this question is the reason it was only ever a "situationship."

>>34321720
Why does that bother you?

>>34324696
I think you're overthinking things. She approached him with little to no warning, and he's gonna want to put his best foot forward given the occasion. He didn't interact with her after what was probably a pretty awkward exchange for him. I would chalk up him bringing her up on the ride home to just making conversation/trying to gauge where your head was at. Was there some passive aggressive power play bullshit on her end? Probably, in my experience women can't help themselves in this regard, but seriously, who cares? He went home with you, didn't he? He married you, didn't he? I understand wanting to protect what is yours, but seriously... you're analyzing whether he was/wasn't standing for obligatory greetings. Let it go, I think your marriage is gonna survive this.

>>34321870
Nothing unless she was deformed.

>>34321870
I wouldnt mind the fact she is a virgin

But i would be curious or even worried why.

But then again im 33 virgin so i guess I shouldn't even talk

Lets lose it togheter

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33f from the Netherlands. Feeling like having some good chats and meet some kind people, so don't be rude please thank you!! Feel free to ask me anything too, love answering all kinds of questions ;3 ( I draw NSFW art for a living so there something you can ask about haha)

My Kik: jdusk59

>>34328127
Are you a bot

>>34298620
You cant make a girl religious.
And this is the heart of the entire problem.
Yes. A woman will look to you and adapt everything that she can if she is into you.
However, that will merely be a cheap and fake imitation of the real thing.
Sure, you can pretend like its not. But it is.
It is fake and it is hypocrisy.
The thing about religion is very simple:
You thought your wife was religious but she wasnt - she was imitating you and thereby practiced idolatry, because she worshiped you, and not God.
Now after you both die, she first just straight up will go to hell because she never believed in her heart.
And then God will ask you: why did you not warn her? Why did you not care for her soul?
And then you, too, because you did not love her as would have been right and guided her to the truth; but instead complacently accepted her hypocrisy without fighting for her soul, will be found a hypocrite and thrown into the lake of fire to burn forever and ever.
Find a girl that loves Jesus more than she loves you. Anything else is insanity.

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>>34329421
>You cant make a girl religious.
>Claims to the know the innermost depths of the heart that only God knowest.
>Doubts the Lord's work, mysterious as it may be.

DO YOU LACK FAITH?! DO YOU LACK A SPINE, BROTHER?!

>>34329436
„How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?“
1 Corinthians 7:16 NIV

„“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.“
John 6:44 NIV

You can not save anyone; if you think that you can, then you don’t know the first thing about the gospel.
Read the Bible, there is an explicit warning against what you are doing.

>>34321659
A lot of men do care about appearances, it's just channeled through more "masculine" ways like building muscle, beard grooming, and showing off status symbols (good house, good car, good lawn, well paying job, expensive clothing, etc). These are also normally his means of embodying his personality. Also, there's some stigma attached to a man going through more typically feminine routes of keeping up appearances so a man who cares about how other men perceive him might avoid doing makeup and the like because he values his "masculinity" over physical appearance. Also, when interacting with society, men are rewarded more for appearing masculine than appearing beautiful, so boys maintain that mentality growing up and never usually consider stuff like makeup as an option for keeping up appearances. At best, he gets told he is wasting his time, at worst, he gets socially excluded for his perceived lack of masculinity.

>>34321870
People could have issues getting into a relationship or having sex for a variety of reasons. It's hard to confidently narrow it down without more information, but not all reasons are necessarily bad ones.

>>34329436
This. >>34329455
I take it that you are married?

>>34329421
First, and most importantly, take your meds. Second,
>You cant make a girl religious
Putting aside that your post comes across as somewhat unhinged, and is full of assumptions about two people you don't know, on this point you're absolutely right. While it's funny to say "my dick cures atheism," I think it would be more accurate to say that my woman saw how the abundance in my life was tied to my faith, and in doing so, recognized something she was lacking in her own life. I may have shown her the way, but she had to be the one to choose to walk the path, which she did. Even if we don't work out, God will still be a part of her life, specifically, the foundation upon which everything else stands.

>>34321870
Wouldn't care; I just know if a woman is single in her 30s there is a reason, and to steer clear.

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>>34329421
LMAO

>>34331546
>if a woman is single in her 30s there is a reason, and to steer clear
This makes no sense.

>>34329421
>You cant make a girl religious.

I dunno I've met plenty of married couples who survived the "Hey I'm religious and I will only date someone who goes to church with me" talk. It won't work on everyone, but it does happen.

I have a crush on a girl working in a weed dispensary. I haven't asked (and get turned down) by a girl since highschool, and only went on 2 dates from apps (nothing successful though). She's nice (cause that's her job), and she noticed my Aphex Twin hoodie once, so I figure maybe we share more stuff. How do I ask her out without creeping her out? I don't have the ability to straight up ask her out at her work place (I wouldn't want to put her on the spot or anything anyway), should I just leave her a written note with my name and phone number? I dunno what's worse from not getting a text back, getting rejected in public, or living with the regret of not asking her out when she quits

Why are all the females in these threads so fat

>>34332557
just ask her out dude. if you have some rapport going it shouldn't be difficult. lunch or something. she might like the change of scenery. worst case you make a new friend who might know some qts

why do women like to write giant posts on here "looking for someone" but then never respond or add you, or seemingly disappear from discord forever once they do add you. you're not gonna find anyone that way, lol

>>34333155
I dunno how to approach her though

>>34299720
It's never too late loser, when you are dead then yeah it's too late.

>>34328127
sorry too old

>>34328127
>My Kik: jdusk59
Only creeps use kik.
Give a mail adress or something normal.

>>34328127
https://archiveofsins.com/_/search/text/jdusk59/
At least try and give yourself new names every couple months....

Why do men start giggling uncontrollably sometimes during post orgasm torture??? r they just overestimated? why laugh? I don't get it.

maybe this is some stupid bullshit blogpost that doesn't belong here

my girlfriend and i have been dating for nearly 2 years (just shy by a little over a month). she wants to start over from zero. she thinks things went too fast, and she wants space.

i'm super fucking tired and just got devastated by this news so i'll keep it brief for now and if people want more information i'll talk more sometime in the morning.

>>34336376
i suppose my question is, is shit fucked? what's it like from the other side of the fence?

>>34336376
>>34336382
Yeah, it's done. The sooner you move on, the better. Don't take the bitch back if she comes crawling back, either.

>>34335901
I've never been post orgasm tortured so idk about the laugh, but it kind of feels like someone grabbing a fistful of your spinal cord, like just way too many nerve signals and your whole body spazzes out. It might not even be a laugh, maybe it's more that their diaphragm is going off

What does it feel like to be kicked in the balls?
Is it possible to cause permanent damage by kicking someone in the balls, assuming you're not super strong?
If someone kicked you in the balls and ran, would you be able to chase them immediately, or would you need to recover first?

>>34338406
>What does it feel like to be kicked in the balls?
Have you ever been hit really hard in the shoulder, or had the wind knocked out of you? It's kinda like that multiplied by a hundred. Just a deep, dull pain that doesn't seem to go away. Sometimes bad enough to make you vomit.
>Is it possible to cause permanent damage by kicking someone in the balls
Well duh. They're an organ that isn't protected by bone or muscle. Imagine getting punched in the chest if you didn't have those to protect your heart or your lungs or whatever, only a bit of spongy flesh.
>If someone kicked you in the balls and ran, would you be able to chase them immediately
Hell no, I would be doubled over in pain for at least 2 minutes. But that's assuming I let them do so in the first place. If someone is clearly winding up a kick, it's pretty simple to just lock my legs together so they don't have a good path to the target.

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>>34338406
>What does it feel like to be kicked in the balls?
it hurts. a lot
>Is it possible to cause permanent damage by kicking someone in the balls, assuming you're not super strong?
yes
>If someone kicked you in the balls and ran, would you be able to chase them immediately, or would you need to recover first?
depends on how well they hit

Girls,
How do I find the types of you that like projects? I'm a golden retriever type, but the kind that has been left out in the cold for a long while and is all mangy and such. I just want a girl to look past that and nurse me back to health. She can toss me aside after if she wants, I just want someone to cuddle me back to a place of normalcy.

>>34338969
go to the gym and they'll naturally come

>>34338974
That's a of assumptions, Anon, but I see your point.

>>34338406
imagine being kicked in your eyeball, but it's hanging in a loose sack that's constantly dangling between your legs.
Squishing your eyeball doesnt feel good. kicking it, if it were out in the open, would feel even worse.

>>34338406
Menstral cramps, but worse

>inb4 "periods are way worse"
I've never seen or heard of a woman throwing up just from her period.

>>34339024
>I've never seen or heard of a woman throwing up just from her period
This must be ragebait. Women have to go to hospital pretty regularly for period cramps. Throwing up isn't even the worst symptom.

>>34339220
I honestly didn't know it was that bad for them

>>34339814
It is pretty unusual. I don't get cramps at all for example. Also women can take birth control so they never get their periods if it is really that bad. But many aren't even aware of this option and are just told so suck it up I think.

>>34338406
The actual pain doesn't last very long and it's more of a deep feeling of sickness, like you're about to vomit, mostly focused in your lower abdomen with a strong, lingering ache.
You can cause permanent damage but it's not super likely. It can cause things like testicular torsion sometimes.
If you're already fighting it's not super incapacitating but if you're not already amped up it's pretty debilitating. Unless the dude is already REALLY angry they're probably not going to be chasing you down.

>>34335901
I'm more or less submissive but once you're no longer horny there is a deep absurdity to femdom stuff that's extremely funny from a certain perspective.
>>34336376
Sounds kind of fucked but maybe salveagable. I would find out what the actual issue is before anything else.
>>34338406
I hope this is a fetish post. And no it's incredibly debilitating unless you're on drugs or something.

>>34340134
nono it's WHEN the guy starts squirting. pretty common. Like tickling someone. Some guys do but some don't. so weird. Also wtf is absurd abt a man submitting himself to a woman?? it's exactly as it should be wtf

>>34340134
It is not a fetish post, I just fantasized about kicking my coworker. But you guys kinda ruined it, I didn't know it was that bad... Now I will fantasize about kicking him in the shins instead.
Of course I would never do any of this for real

>>34298356
Uh it's probably a stupid question, but do women online have higher standards in regards to appearance? I've been putting myself out there on the internet, and I haven't been able to attract a single person that's a woman. I don't have too much trouble with women IRL, and some really beautiful girls have liked me, but this is kind of driving me mad. I mean, I guess I'm just not that good looking. I really did this out of boredom to see how other people perceive, and like some sort of a puzzle to see if I could solve it.

>>34340352
yeah don't do that. If you wouldn't kick him in the face don't kick him in the balls. If you hate him for some reason just make subtle comments to hurt his self esteem, those will cause much more pain in the long run than getting kicked in the balls ever could.

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>>34298363
I feel so much second-hand embarrassment for the "men" who post in these threads. It's obvious they just exist to stroke the ego of low value feminist women

honestly /soc/ has to just be a breeding ground for the most perverse, normie, and narcissistic people on 4chan, and idk why that is.

>>34340457
It's not that surprising, it's a board specifically for meeting your fellow 4chan users. Of course people will be more vain here since they're trying to get attention. It's the lack of a sfw /soc/ that's the real problem IMO

>>34340415
I really don't think I should cause drama like that at work...

Femanons if you happen to live in Belgium or the Netherlands where as a man am i supposed to find casual hookups or a relationship if i am 25+?
Dating sites are a losing game for men and my job and classes have no viable women.. Not to mention bars are very antisocial and expensive.

>>34332041
It makes perfect sense. All wives are found. With few exceptions, a woman who is wife material and of wife mindset will not make it out of her 20s without being taken off the market.

>>34332557
>should I just leave her a written note
God, no. Just ask her out.

>>34333558
Ask her if she has any plans for the weekend, then, in the highly likely scenario she says some variant of "no/not really/just chilling" say "oh yeah? I'm doing X activity at Y place, you should come." The activity should be something she's expressed interest in, the place should be somewhere public, and ideally close to your place if things go very well. Say it how I told you to say it, don't add "if you're interested," as her interest is assumed, and if it isn't, fake it until you make it; abundance mindset is a beautiful thing.
>"B-but Anon, I've got this thing I'm insecure about!"
No excuses, play like a fucking champion.
>"But Anon, what if she *is* busy this weekend?"
Still mention the activity, see if she bites/shows any FOMO anxiety, and just enjoy the conversation for what it is. Maybe she'll be free next weekend.
>"But Anon, seriously, what if she isn't interested in me? I just don't think I could handle that kind of rejection..."
Then you accept her rejection, don't get weird or hostile about it, remember there's 4 billion more where she came from, and move on with your life.

>>34336376
She wants to get her guts rearranged by someone else, but she wants you available as a backup in case it doesn't work out with her first choice. Never let yourself be treated like an option; give her all the space, and move on with your life.

>>34338406
You can't breathe, and you feel like you have to shit and throw up at the same time.

>>34298356
A question I've posed elsewhere. Maybe it'd bebetter for /adv/ but I'll appreciate female attitude.
>>82584797

>>34344324
Oops, messed up the link:
>>>/r9k/82584797

>>34336852
you and the few friend's i've spoke with agree.
>>34340134
she told me she fell out of love, and that it's been a couple months. she just "waited and hoped it would fix itself" instead of telling me at any point. i had even asked how things were several times, since i myself had communication issues in the past. sex was also a big thing for her, but that died out and hadn't had any hope for a second wind. she lost her sexual attraction and neither of us know why or how to reignite.
dick so bad she went asexual? she was my first. just a joke, not looking for an answer there.
>>34343048
she's not that sort of woman, but that's a moot point. i hated the idea a friend suggested, but i listened to her and essentially gave my girlfriend an ultimatum. "if it's over, it's over. i want us to fight for "us" and fix things together" and "i'm not going to let myself hurt forever".

>>34299238
i don't see gender as any valid reason to give special attention. if we share interests, humor, hobbies or anything else, great. if not then i'm probably not going to stay too invested but i'll still respect the conversation and the person i'm sharing it with.

>>34343048
>Ask her if she has any plans for the weekend,
She works on the weekend cause that's when I have time to buy dope. Also I live in a shitty town that doesn't have events or anything nice going on.

>>34344611
>she's not that sort of woman
This kind of naivete would be adorable if it wasn't so goddamn tragic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2EBIsgSo6k

>>34344640
>She works on the weekend
It doesn't have to be the weekend; you can ask her if she has any plans for tonight.
>I live in a shitty town that doesn't have events or anything nice going on
1. Move. 2. Then she's probably easy to please. Ya'll are both into weed and it sounds like you live in some Podunk town where there's not much to do other than eat, drink, smoke, and fuck. See if she's down to "hang out."

im in love with a dude i met online who gives me the hot and cold treatment and in general is clearly not into me. i cant stop thinking about him but i just met a hot guy irl who wants to fuck me, should i sleep with him and hope it removes my feelings for the other guy or should i suffer

>>34346807
You should try to date the irl guy. If he doesn't want to date and just wants to fuck, ditch both of them and find another guy.

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>>34338969
bump

why tf would u tell me im ur best friend and talk to me for 8 hours a day just to do a 180 and cut me off within a month of meeting.

Men, how would you react if a girl from /soc/ you've been talking to for a few weeks asked to meet up? We live a couple of hours to each other, plus I can get some time off work soon and I would be the one coming over, I think I'm crushing hard and he seems to like me too. I feel like this will scare him off or something, it is not just for sex I don't care if it happens or not, but I really like him. He's not taking my hints on wanting to meet up..I don't want to be too forward.

>>34349669
assuming everything's been going well I'd be up for it. You've been voice chatting, right?

If you don't want to appear desperate/stalker-y you could suggest meeting midway.

>>34329588
I don't care about any of these things either, but I think it's probably close enough to observe that shaving (as much less effort as it probably is) is the male equivalent of the "makeup routine" I've been lead to believe that pretty much all women follow religiously every morning. At least with men I know that anywhere between 30-70% of them don't care at ALL about trifling things like shaving, let alone "fancy"/expensive (most of this time, this means ugly, gaudy, and dysfunctional) houses, cars, or watches.
At least I think so, I guess I probably talk to and understand men probably about as well as I talk to and understand women.

Gender ?
What are you wearing? Show us?
What clothes do you hate in the opp gender ?

How would you feel about being roommates with the opposite gender?

Do you think it's normal to feel some kinda tension even if at least one of you has a partner and you get along in a friendly way?

Wanted: a femanon to help me with hair and skin care

I'm a 27 M UK with nice long hair and decent skin but I have no idea. ow to maintain it properly.

Bonus points for helping me style my hair and beard

I realise this isn't one question, but it is an opening for many ongoing questions

Discord: Mandaloreo_

>>34350518
Bump for the thread and for this post

>>34349669
Dudes are retarded and when we aren't retarded we don't trust that you're actually making hints so we pretend not to notice them. Just come right out and ask if you can visit.

Men: is body hair (not just bush) on a woman a dealbreaker for you? I stopped shaving midway through high school and the idea of starting again makes me want to crawl in a hole and die but I also want to be someone's wife.
>>34309472
I'm in said demographic, and it's honestly pretty close to a plus for me. I think being a (step)mom would be rewarding and actually being in your kid's life shows a sense of responsibility and maturity. Would be a completely different story if you were a deadbeat.
I'm sure it differs from person to person, but I certainly wouldn't turn someone down for it.
>>34350518
I was roommates with a male friend in college. No tension, but we've also known each other since kindergarten, so that probably has something to do with it. I think it's normal to have charged moments with anyone you spend a lot of time around.

>>34355238
Knowing him since Kindergarten 100% affected it. Google the Westermark effect.

Bump

>>34356329
Sup

I never watch porn and I don't even know about the tropes that everyone seem to know. I wonder if I should start watching it to see what men are into? Or would be a waste of time/make things worse?

>>34356884
It's generally a bad idea to base real life sex expectations on what you see in porn. That stuff is extremified beyond belief. Lots of guys are not at all into things that are common in porn.

is there a female equivalent of smegma

>>34356884
I mean check it out if you want but it barely translate to anything IRL, expecially for anything deranged. I jerk off to some weird fucking shit and I'd never expect a woman to even want to hear the details.

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Is it true

Question for the ladies.

Should I write a romance novel where the FMC gets kidnapped and brought to this hidden society run by a crypto billionaire MMC1 who faked his death. And he forcefully impregnates her because he's running experiments to try and deal with the fertility crisis and her body for some reason is the key to that. But then he ends up falling in love with her.

But then she gets rescued by a MMC2 who's a billionaire who's put his fortune into finding missing and exploited women. And they end up in a relationship but she's already pregnant with MMC1's baby.

>>34358105
I don't care about debt as long as you're making progress on it that doesn't require my assistance. I'd prefer a non-virgin because two virgins sounds incredibly awkward. And I'm neutral on tattoos; some are good, some are bad.

>>34358105
Depends, some guys find tattoos stupid hot and while popping a cherry would be nice, I'm long past 18 now so I'm not going to pretend I'll be any girl's first.

>>34356884
don't watch porn. Not worth risking getting sucked into it

>>34356884
I would say porn isn't a good indicator of what men are into but I think I'm just weirdly not that into porn.

Why cant ANY women date unattractive men? Men can be happy with unattractive women, and men and women are equal, so its extremely frustrating and depressing that NO women, not even the least attractive women, are willing to date unattractive nice guys who would care about them, and that they'd rather be with attractive chads who abuse them

>>34358918
Does it ever get tiring burying your head in the sand to blame other people for your problems?

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I wanna fuck this 18 year old and my first message was a response to their bio and got a good response from them. If I send a "are you free tonight?" message, would that look good? She didn't read my response to her, but the second message is just to get her attention.

>>34358918
Men don't date unattractive fat women they have sex with them but they don't date them

>>34358105
On average yeah. Tattoos have always looked disgusting to me, my subconscious thinks they're some kind of horrible bruise or rash I think.

Debt is fineish if it isn't too bad. But I don't want to get legally married anyway.

A girl being virgin is a huge deal for almost all men interested in a genuine long term relationship from what I've seen. It's like women being attracted to tall men: It's more or less inborn. That said I'm a 30 year old (ex?) coomer so I'm not personally concerned about it anymore. Better men deserve virgins, I do not and I wouldn't want to project my kinks/whatever on a nice girl anyway.

>>34358918
If you want to make up for being ugly you need to 1) max out whatever little physical attractiveness you have. Go to the gym a bit and be at a close to ideal bmi. Have perfect hygiene, etc. 2) Work on cultivating the kind of personality women want and hold yourself to that pattern like you're in a play. It's basically like being an emotional prostitute and can be done, but it does feel insanely disgusting IMO. Even if you're not ugly why would women want to date you if you don't do anything for them?

>>34356884
Not worth it at all. You're way more likely to start liking some weird shit that the next guy you date is disgusted with. Just be open and accepting to what he likes after you start having sex (ideally after marriage thoughbeit) and he'll eventually tell you.

>>34355238
>Men: is body hair (not just bush) on a woman a dealbreaker for you?
Basically yes but every guy is different and it depends on where the hair is and how visible/thick/etc it is. Short blonde peach fuzz doesn't bother anyone.

And for me personally, being feminist about it despite actually shaving is a dealbreaker too based on my past experience with those kinds of women.

>>34355238
Legs, yes. 100% can't deal with hairy legs on a woman. Arm pits too. It's also not very attractive on their back, chest, or belly but I might be able to deal with that if it was fine and not dark colored.

>>34357964
it sounds like a meme but please someone answer T_T ive actually been wondering for like years now

>>34364100

Not really? There isn’t a similar anatomical setup to foster it. I also wash my pussy though so I can’t speak to what would happen if you had very poor hygiene.

>>34358135
not a woman, but I imagine a crypto billi- actually, crypto ANYTHING to be deeply unsexy. it could be funny tough

>>34358105
yes. i dunno why everyone is spitting out these complex multi-faceted answers. the answer is yes - it's true.

>>34358105
Yes. Doesn't mean it's impossible otherwise, but that is what men prefer.

>>34364811
>>34364822
faggots

>>34358105
practical sexual experience is valuable for compatibility's sake and, subjectively, body art can be very pretty when it's well done.

debt though? like 50k+? lol not my fuckin problem.

What, as an ugly woman, can I do to make myself more attractive? I'm a solid 3 - I don't like my facial features very much independently, and I don't think they harmonize with each other either. Makeup makes me look and feel like a pig in lipstick. I've been losing weight, but I'm not seeing any changes in the face just yet. Are there any traits you've seen in otherwise unattractive women that have made you interested in them?
>>34364100
Yes, but not to the extent that men get it. If you don't wash your labia there will naturally be a build-up of dead skin cells and oil and stuff, just like with foreskin. Phrasing is going to be weird here, but I think that the labia is generally 'roomier' than the foreskin, which means buildup is lower overall and easier to clean, but it still happens.

>>34366291
Effort is attractive. Nice hair, clothes, makeup, accessories, etc. I'd like a 3/10 who's trying a lot more than a 7/10 who's clearly given up.

>>34366291
I'm not necessarily saying you should cold approach, but try to get yourself into conversations with guys and be nice to them. A lot of guys mostly get negative attention, so you can make a big impression with a genuine compliment.
That won't work on everyone of course, and you will get turned away; so you will need some determination.
t, Been turned down many times giving away good free food.

>>34366291
if genetics has dropped you on this earth as a legit 3/10 then there's only so far you can go. personality and virtues will have to be your primary weapon. many guys will still want to fuck you, but it's up to you to discern which are going to pump&dump and which have a sincere interest. if you're an autistic introvert then it's so ogre. when you get a decent man keep him well fed and keep his balls empty.

>>34358105
>Debt free
Yes. It's important. If not completely debt free, at least very little debt (something she can easily repay herself in a reasonable time frame). Huge piles of debt is a red flag signifying poor judgement and an inability to think about the future.

>Virgin
Some men really do want that, but most would be content with a woman who hasn't ridden the cock carousel (i.e. a new guy every 3-4 days for 4 years of college and beyond).

>Without Tattoos
Yes. Skin doodles are fucking stupid. People who scribble pop art on their skin must be the most braindead people on the planet - totally disconnected from any sense of natural beauty, and oblivious to the idea of the future.

>>34364948
Look at this faggot projecting

>>34366291
lose weigh tthats all
jestud dont be fat

Waiting for femanon to surely post her cute hand...

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>>34367623
it's not cute, my hands are actually really skelly and i have no idea how to get fat there but take my wrist for now
bye

>>34367629
That is not your hand.
Hand includes your actual fingers and nails.

>>34367670
Truly cadaveric puppy hands, would hold.
Length is fine enough, put on some nail polish though. Dark red or black would go great with your skin tone.

>>34367629
>>34367670
Very cute, would hold

>>34367675
>>34367678
you're both insane btw but okay

>>34367670
cool