So what I want to talk about, is my situation in life, my attributes, and whether or not it would be appealing for a girl to come into my life. I am very different than most people, the way I think and my living situation.Currently I live in a 23 ft towable rv, with two German shepherds, one that is nearly 12 and another that is 8 months old. It's very nice, like a really good looking Hotel room. Sometimes I travel down to Daytona and help out my friend tom, who is now 80 years old and I fix his car and his wife's car for whatever issues they have, and that's usually once or twice a year, and I can travel anywhere and make money anywhere.I work as an automotive technician, a Diagnostics expert, and I work for myself. I go to sleep when I am tired, and I wake up whenever I wake up. In fact I do a lot of my repair work in the middle of the night.For my looks, I am 5'9, 37 years old, somewhat muscular, a tattoo on each shoulder and one on the upper back, starting to get some white hairs in my beard. So those are all the things that you would see just taking a snapshot of my life without any context. And the question is, is this something that a girl would find desirable? Because I'm looking to go out and try to find someone again. It's been 10 years since I got out of my last relationship, and I want to find someone. I just want to get some feedback on how girls see the situation, and then if you have any questions about anything since there's no context really given for any of this, we can go into that but I do want your first initial reaction of how this looks to you on its face.So I would say I am a six out of 10, on this really cool unique property, living out of an rv, a couple of German shepherds, and a self-employed Auto tech.
All right so I believe that picture was taken back in like 2018, and here's what I looked like before I got into shape
And yes.... I CAN smile!
>That sounds like an awesome lifestyle and I envy your lifestyle. Go to sleep when you're tired, wake up whenever the fuck you do. Still make money. That's my personal goals, as well.You sound like a real hard worker, no bullshit.5'9" is super short though for all those things considered, as a girl I'm not gonna be excited to meet you because you're only 2 inches taller than me. I think you'd have to really flesh out your lifestyle and make yourself a happy person to be around before a girl would take a serious interest in you. (A hottie, I mean)Scale your work somehow, make bank, but don't be stressed. Stress will push a girl away. Just buy a motorcycle and start doing fun shit. Your situation is awesome because you sound like a maverick, but you have to live like one for it to be appealing.
>>34330308sorry i greentexted on accident
>>34330308>buy a motorcycleDone
>>34330308Okay now, I can totally understand the height thing. I would never consider dating a girl who was taller than me. An optimally I would like to have a three to five inch difference in height but no more. And I can continue on talking about the other things that you were saying, but it goes beyond this initial thing where you have a guy that lives out of an rv, works for himself has a couple dogs, because that's what I'm trying to figure out on the face of it, is that a situation a girl would find to be attractive, or repulsive. I'm sure for guy says he lives in a house and a decent neighborhood, and works X Y or Z job, they would find that to be acceptable. They wouldn't find that to be a roadblock.
>>34330336don't wear full protective gear, I know you want to protect your dainty little skin but if a women gets on the back of your bike and she's wearing less clothes than you, you look like a bitch.Get good enough at riding that you don't need all that gear. You look like you're larping as a motocross athlete. You'd look much sexier in a tight tshirt with short sleeves showing off your muscles. Afraid of losing your flesh? Git good at riding.
the only questionable thing is probably living in an RV at 37 but sounds dope otherwise
>>34330347yeah you can make your situation sound totally sexy, just don't be ashamed of it. Use your freedom as much as you can, and don't live like a bum. You'll get a hot bitch.
>>34330357Yeah but what I'm asking is, is the situation, I'm a face of it, intriguing? Attractive? Without explaining anything. Like, if somebody's going to go ahead and make up a whole story in their own head without knowing anything and then decide that this is a bad thing, I guess that's partly what I want to know. If I explain the entire thing, then I'm sure it will sound awesome but that's not what I'm looking to do here in Phase One Of This Thread
I'm torn between opinions on this thread. If nothing else, it's very eye opening from an observational point of view.
>>34330367oh yeah it's unattractive at the face of it.you live in a mobile home.
>>34330372Yes this is the type of response I'm looking for a, it's not about digging deeper at this point, it's about the circumstances themselves, and whether or not that's going to be looked at positively negatively or neutrally. Nothing to be sad about how long I have been doing this, or how much longer I'm going to be doing it. There's nothing said on whether or not this is a high point or low point in my life. Or simply just a point that is neither the highest nor lowest. I understand most people are going to respond to this, and they're going to talk about things that requires more information, but what I am asking everyone, is to just look at that situation in itself. Heck, earlier somebody was saying that I needed to start becoming happy with myself and start making money, when they have no idea what my level of Happiness is, nor the money I make, and I understand that it can be a difficult thing to do when as a human, you're wanting to think about more things and more angles of it and you just don't have any extra information at this point.
*sigh* the fact that a guy who's made it and doing well is having to do this much to impress a woman who hasn't done a fraction of what he has is just sad.Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing either of you individually; >>34330128 you're just trying to get information from the other side, and >>34330308 you're just giving honest, constructive feedback. But the fact that, as a general rule in 2025, women who, for the most part, have little, if any value to offer have this much power over 'you have to make things look and feel a certain way' when the man is clearly out of their league in terms of work and accomplishments is depressing. As a man who's doing really well right now, I don't have the time or energy for this.
Here is my doggy and one of my vehicles (I have many, it's a mechanic thing)
>>34330387if you weren't born with hips and ass and a pretty face, you have to prove your worth and labor for respect and acknowledgement.it's just how sex works. i don't know what to say. it doesn't have to be a depressing life, just pick things you enjoy.
>>34330401>Pick things that you enjoyAgreed. I just got back from a vacation 3 weeks ago and am about to take another one this weekend. It's nice having the time and resources to really enjoy life. I'm about a year older (and an inch taller) than OP, but I have a six figure income and am an investor on top of that, yet I see the same thing where women who are, quite frankly, beneath me, think they have the grounds to look down on me and tell me how I need to improve for them, despite the fact they're often struggling or have nothing going for them. If that's how sex works, then it's a good thing it's not required for survival.Again, not criticizing you as an individual, but if you are a woman hopefully you can at least see how sad that is.
>>34330381I can respect this. Good luck to you.
>>34330405If you measure women by a man's standard, they will always fall short.Things don't have to be sad. It depends on how you look at it. You ought to learn something from samoan and hawaiian society.
>>34330423>If you measure women by a man's standard they will always fall shortYou mean comparing women to what men have to do? I don't do that, but women seem to be the only group of anything I can categorize that, in order to be attractive, they have to *not* have certain traits: don't be overweight, don't have tattoos or piercings, don't be a single mom or bring baggage, etc, and most women can't even meet those minimum standards.
>>34330428not doing things are more difficult for a female, anon. you seem to fundamentally misunderstand what a female is by nature.She is softer, weaker, more vulnerable, smaller, gentler. Anatomically speaking, that is her nature.Therefore, she is attacked by "satan" more than men. Temptation comes to her first, that's why the snake went straight to her instead of Adam.For a woman to not be fat, not be a whore, not be selfish, greedy, envious, slothful, wrathful, proud, deceptive,she literally has to resist the powers of the world, which she was not built to do, like you, who has the physical prowess to take care of yourself. That is, at our very core, the difference between you and I.
>>34330440If what you're saying is true, then humility would be an important trait for many women to have, and in 2025 in the Western world, it's not there.You seem ok, and very mature in your arguments. But you still were telling a guy earlier who, at least from what I can gather, is more accomplished than you how you wouldn't be excited because of his height and how he needs to present himself better. I get that you were being constructive and answering his honest question, but the fact that women find that important, given what you said about what a female is by nature, is kind of a red flag. You'd think they'd be more impressed or interested in proven accomplishments rather than presentation. And honestly, I've seen many women who put presentation above accomplishments (meaning they give sex to guys who are losers but who make them feel a certain way). How would they be able to survive doing that, from an evolutionary standpoint? The answer is, they wouldn't, but modern society has messed up the sexual dynamic, and it's going to have really bad results long term.
I may be a Master Mechanic but I'm a jack of all trades. There isn't anything in the house I can't do, I don't do it for anyone professionally, but like for example this bathroom, I completely tore it out for my friend and did everything. It was a regular junkie bathroom before and I built this
>>34330458You're unironically a badass.
>>34330458Here's the other angle I thought I uploaded this one first
>>34330454you are literally complaining about women, think about what you're doing.there is no end to the complaints men have about women. or the complaints women have about men. now that i've explained both genders to you, welcome to the circle of life. Both men and women are called by god/nature to reach their best, and do they always succeed? Nope, they often fail. Welcome to the conversation, does it do anything productive to complain about it? Absolutely not.It's biologically important for a man to be larger than his female partner, because a man who is small is a liability. Unless he can pass as a trap, he will be measured by male standards and therefore he does not scare away predators and therefore the female has to be more cautious when out with him.A man who can have an aura of authority or dominance around him create a space for femininity and womanhood to flourish. A woman could be attracted to a short man, but she would have to change her lifestyle to a more cautious one. That's all it takes. It would require a change in her personality. But women often like to be very expressive and warm with people, but she would have to be more cautious about being that way if you could not create that circle of safety for her. It's not about your ability to respond to danger, but your ability to create a safe domain for her and the others who are under your care.Women put presentation above accomplishments because again, welcome to the world. It doesn't mean accomplishments don't matter.You can complain about "modernity" all you want, but does it benefit you in any way to do so?
I used to work here
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>>34330485I even held big guns!
>>34330478>there is no end to the complaints men have about women. or the complaints women have about men.This. Both sexes seem to despise the other now. And I'm not disagreeing that man should have to be strong and able to create a safe domain. Men shouldn't just get love or intimacy just because they exist; quite the opposite, they should have to work hard to earn it.The problem is, many men who do the work and have gotten to the level where they can create the safe domain and provide are still criticized over the presentation aspect which, in many cases, involves toxic traits. I've known too many women who were charmed by men who focus only on presentation (game), and even if those men had nothing else going for them, gave them their physical intimacy while telling other men who were 'up and coming' that 'now isn't a good time for me' whenever they showed romantic interest, or made whatever excuses they could to avoid a relationship.As you said, welcome to the world. Thankfully, I don't need love or intimacy to keep thriving as an individual. And I'm not settling for a woman who doesn't live up to the work I've done to get where I am today, because getting to this point was nightmarishly hard sometimes.Anyway, I'm calling it a night, I have to be up insanely early for work tomorrow. All tension aside, it was nice talking to you.
>>34330497>Men shouldn't just get love or intimacy just because they existmen shouldn't get sex just because they exist. Every human being deserves love and closeness by default.you aren't listening closely my brother.There is no point in a man being effective in responding to danger if he can't prevent it in the first place.If a man can create a safe domain for those under his care to live in, that also has to include being big and scary and threatening to bad people. That's why women are attracted to criminals, or men they "really shouldn't be attracted to".If you are male, and are easy to pick on and push around, weak, you cannot create a safe domain for anyone simply because you will always be bullied and pushed around. Your karate skills to respond to danger do not matter. If a woman cannot leave the house without knowing for a fact that combat will ensue, you are in some way failing to create that safe domain.Therefore, if you have "accomplishments" it really does not matter if you cannot match her lifestyle. In fact, male accomplishments often really don't matter at all in a woman's life.
>>34330516My one comment for this is that it is a brutal thing to hear that no matter what I have done in life, my accomplishments, what I am capable of, if I can't match girls lifestyle I am worthless. I mean, I can go the rest of my life without being in another relationship. That sucks because sex is one of them greatest things I've ever experienced in my life and I've had three girlfriends throughout my twenties, so there has been plenty of sex. And by the way, for me, sex is not a possibility unless two requirements are met. Number one that I'm in love with the person, and number two being that we are in a committed relationship with each other. Which means no other forms of sex will ever happen if I never get another girlfriend
>>34330543you can match a girl's lifestyle easily. because of anima and animus. Inside of you is that same weak and vulnerable person that wants connection like a woman does. Yours is just hidden, hers is visible.Channel your feminine energy and make yourself into an ubermensch. You will reach your full potential as well.
>>34330557You know, you've completely hijacked my thread and I'm sorry I even responded to you.
>>34330577And honestly you are a huge cunt and insufferable
>>34330577I didn't "hijack" your thread, you're free to post.If my help is not wanted, you can continue to be a miserable skinnyfat faggot. I was speaking to a few people who were speaking to me. You left the door open for this party, and now are kicking me out?kys. You're the beggar making a pathetic desperate thread, you can't be choosers.
>>34330586Absolutely insufferable cunt
>>34330593what did I do to you lolgo jerk off in your lonely RV
>>34330581>>34330577Yeah it's a tranny just ignore it.What kind of woman are you looking for anon?
>>34330601Physically, this is my type.
>>34330647That shouldn't be hard to find in FloridaDo you not go out?
>>34330682No, not at all. I keep completely to myself. I hate people, generally speaking, because most of them are disingenuous and full of fake personalities. I would rather stay in my own lane, do my own thing, and not waste time on shallow socializing. I value realness and honesty, and since that is so rare, I usually just stick to myself.
>>34330706Okay. Not sure how to help you because you definitely will not find that kind of woman on here
>>34330715I would never consider a girl who uses 4chan!
>>34330719That's fine, but no one here can help you either
>>34330747It depends. Most of the people that replied to this thread ignored the premise and the thread went sideways.>>34330354This person gave an answer to my original question>>34330372So did this person>>34330379Also this oneThe rest of it, had nothing to do with the original question!
>>34330790The type of girl you're into based on looks alone wouldn't find it desirable, especially if you're the type that doesn't go out in the first place.
It looks like I missed a lot.>>34330516>Every human being deserves love and closeness by default.Unfortunately that isn't how reality works. And physical intimacy is a part of that.>There is no point in a man being effective in responding to danger if he can't prevent it in the first place.It's impossible to prevent all danger, this is not a feasible standard for anyone to live up to. Being able to respond to danger is an important trait.>If you are male, and are easy to pick on and push around, weak, you cannot create a safe domain for anyone simply because you will always be bullied and pushed aroundI agree with everything but the 'you will always be bullied and pushed around', men can become stronger if they're willing to put in the work, which many aren't, which I why I said men shouldn't just get love or intimacy just for existing, it's something they should have to earn.>Your karate skills don't matterSee, this is where I disagree. Karate skills is kind of a vague setup (I'm a military veteran and did MMA) I can create a safe domain within my area, but women in practice are looking for more than that. They're looking for something they can market on social media to get likes in most cases, and a safe domain has little, if anything, to do with that, which brings us to>Therefore, if you have "accomplishments" it really does not matter if you cannot match her lifestyle. In fact, male accomplishments often really don't matter at all in a woman's life.This. You summed it up perfectly, but what you're missing is that this is going to be a problem long term for both men *and* women, because most women are very short sighted when it comes to their desirability privilege. The truth is for most women, after about the age of 25, their desirability plummets fast, and by their mid to late 30s it's practically non-existent. I get messages on dating apps from women in their late 30s or early 40s, and I don't give them the time of day.
>>34330440disgusting hole
>>34330440"Therefore, she is attacked by 'Satan' more than men. Temptation comes to her first, that's why the snake went straight to her instead of Adam."Funny fairytale story bro LMFAO.
>>34330458Epic
From 2013-2015 I lived in this. In that time, two different girlfriends.
Got with this firl after breaking up with #2 gf
>>34332091She was super hot. Loved her a lot. She was my last gf. She died
>>343320832013-2015 was a long time agoYou hit the wall at maximum speed, accept it and lower your standards or die alone
>>34332094>She diedHow did she die?What a way to memorialize her, very cool!
Real tragic. She fell off a cliff, right after I told her to take a hike. But hey, you win some, you lose some.
>>34332114Yeah super tragic. We had a lot of Adventures together. We even went back in time. Here's a picture where I took my new little puppy with me when we were whisked away against our will, back to 1973. As you can see in the picture, it's old because we had to use an old timey camera as we were stuck there for about 3 months before we were able to get back to the present, which is now in the past, because that was 2015.
>>34332095I can tell that you have an abrasive personality. Don't worry I won't hold that against you. But maybe I should explain the circumstances. So I get out of the Navy in 2012, and in the beginning of 2013 I met a guy that had an old Spartan trailer on his property and a shit ton of cars and I worked out an agreement to work on them and lived there for free. I started going to school for electrical engineering, and now I have as much income as I want because working a measly 20 hours a week at $100 per hour, no markup on parts, that's about $8,000 per month, with low enough effort that I can maintain my 4.0 gpa. Saved up money and bought a house. With a large pole barn with the interior actually finished. So, that's really just getting out of the navy, starting over from scratch but with a skill set that I've already had the amount of time to completely master, so that it was no big deal. Doesn't matter what problem somebody has, Automotive Diagnostics and repair is so easy. The only thing that can possibly be hard is electrical stuff but I was already an expert by the time I left lexus to join the navy.
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>>34332208So I went ahead and over the next 5 years, upgraded the house. New windows from anderson. A high Sear carrier air conditioning unit and high efficiency furnace. Gutted and remodeled both of the bathrooms, skim coated all of the walls and removed the fake wood paneling and replaced those with drywall, and like I said skimmed all the rest of the drywall that was there along with replacing all interior doors and all interior lower wall trim. And then sold.
4 wheeling with the doggies all the time.Also way earlier that one person was talking about having a girl riding on the back of the bike.. I wouldn't want to be with a girl that wanted to ride on the back of the bike. Would rather be with the girl that rides on her own bike!
So then I go up to Northern michigan, on the Family homestead, and I take possession of the cabin, which is the very first building that was built on this 40 acres back when my great-great grandpa and great grandpa, bought it, when they lived down in the Pontiac area, as hunting land. There used to be a railroad that went right through that property, as it was a major logging area and this would be about 1941, they knew guys that worked with the trains and all that down there, that railroad went all the way from down there, connected at different places, right through that property so they loaded up a shit ton of old railroad ties, which were about 50 years old and that's when they go ahead and yank those up and replace them. And that train stopped right there on the property and then they would go ahead and throw all these railroad ties off the side, all of them were free because it was all done on trade, and it was dirt roads going all the way up to Northern michigan. I remember great grandpa saying you'd have to fix four or five flat tires by the time you got all the way up there. Parents and sister and grandparents still live on the property now, great grandparents lived in the cabin but now it's mine.
>>34332243So, next, I completely gutted the entire fucking thing!
>>34332114You murdered her, poor girlIf these posts make it to some true crime documentary - 4B ladies! You can be everything a man wants, and it's still not enough for him, he will literally kill you and post your picture years later to say, "She was super hot". That's all you are to them
Unironic advice from someone who interacts with people in person more than online. Most women around your age are going to be more interested in settling down, not that you seem opposed to that, but your lifestyle is going to be a hard sell for a lot of them. Much younger chicks might find it cool or appealing but that's probably not going to be particularly longterm.
>>34332246I lived the NEET life, in a way, from November of 2020 until August of 2023. Didn't need to work. Had $130,000 in the bank, and just decided to have fun, bought a 2018 RZR rs1, got that Lincoln Navigator, and did a bunch of stuff on the property. Like, that roof had actual 2x4 rafters, and I sister those with the modern 2x10 boards. Was able to straighten up the roof, and I stopped right there. I decided I'll go back to that property and finish that up and that can be a vacation place and an eventual retirement place, but I would rather not build it until I find my life partner. Because I want to build it with them together. It already sucks at whoever I end up with, we won't have shared history of our 20s and most of our 30s now, but at least whatever happens in the future, I'm building it with someone I love.So August of 2023 I decided to hit the road, went and bought a travel trailer, and went down south for the winter. I stayed in Daytona for a couple weeks but then I went and took a trip out to vegas, stayed there for a month and then went back to Daytona for a couple weeks and then it was spring and I went back up north to indiana. And that's my main place, and I was doing a lot of mobile repair and of course I did repair work absolutely anywhere I went. It doesn't matter where you go, they're always people that need Automotive work done. I really liked staying in the loves Backlot over in Amex.
Oh sheesh y'all.... t'was a dream!
>>34332264Grand Canyon was crazy because I went in, and this is at the southern rim, you park and then you start on a little Trail and you can see this small little Amphitheater where somebody is having everybody sit on these rows of benches while they Overlook the entire canyon, and then it was a little icy around there and you could totally slip, and fall over that edge and it's like 800 ft down right there to the next horizontal surface. Like, how the fuck do people not die there? So I look it up and there's a death or two every year going back like 70 years and of course more before then but from their tracking it happens. But it's really rare.
>>34332276Today's phone cameras are so flipping amazing.
>>34330128I was joking earlier about my previous girlfriend falling off a cliff. She actually died in a plane crash. And this is many years ago but I snuck in and snapped a couple pictures of the wreckage.
>>34332281This is the first time I've ever shared these wreckage pictures, you won't find them anywhere else online of this wreck because there was a big government cover up! Only reason I never ended up on an FBI kill list, was because until today, I never shared them and that was never seen entering or exiting the area
Now on top of all that, I have a great dick. I have a good inch more than average, it's also thick! And when I'm in a relationship, it was on the average of 5 to 7 times a day. I'm guessing now and my later 30s it would be more like 3 to 5 times a day. But even being a hypersexual person, I'm absolutely disgusted with NSA sex. That type of sex is gross. Which is why I don't want a girl who has ever participated the act, with outs being in love with that person and also in a committed relationship with them. Now that's going to be the rare thing to find these days! But I can't be with somebody that doesn't like that.
So if you guys ever went up to a girl and just cold approached and the first thing you said was,>"So what's Your meat flap situation like?"
>>34330154bro this looks like a horror movie and the famous "last smile" before the woman is found chopped up in a suit case in a dumpster by a homeless guy searching for food.
>>34334592Oh that's good, I'm using that!
