Can you really be a fan of a team thats in a country not your own?
>>154891552No but your video is unrelated to what you asked
>>154891575I must stress to you anon, as hard as it is to believe that the video is of an african arsenal title parade and its not set in north london
>>154891552Lol, does Arsenal have any Kenyan players or what's the connection even?
>>154891552Arsenal arent English
>>154891665you really need to get your eyesight checked
>>154891552don't see the problem, arsenal are an african club
>>154891605thanks for pointing that out.
>>154891552how many died in the crush?
>>154891552Yes. Modern sports teams are only loosely tied to location. Teams like Arsenal, Real Madrid, the NY Yankees, the Dallas Cowboys, Mercedes F1, Novak Djokovic, etc, are global phenomena
Arsenal is America's team in the Premier League.
Can you? Of course. Should you? No. The only exception is if you move to a different country.
>>154891552makes me want to play gta
>>154891552Generally: no, of course not. It's just bandwagoning then. You can actually be a passionate bandwagoner, I guess, but you will still be a bandwagoner and arguably stink up the club for actual fans with roots if there's too many of youBut it is possible if you've made some real contact with the club and fell in love with them then, I think. For example, my local club has a few international fans who studied here. Some Japanese guy came here just to study, then he visited a few games somehow and ended up liking the club. He mingles with the local fans, lives in the city, all that stuff. Eventually, he goes back to his home country, but he may remain fond of the club. I think that's different from what most people do: just pick a club from another country because they are popularIt does get a bit blurry after one generation, though
>>154891552Visit rwanda
>>154891552if you don't live within 5 miles of your club then you're a plastic, simple as.americunts just dont get that football is tribal
>>154891813Arsenal support unites America's political elite.
Its funny because they all consider themselves to be just as much a fan as a match going londoner>"I live and breathe Arsenal" - Ngubo from LagosDo they not have football teams in Africa? If an Englishman said his favorite team was Bayern he would be called a spastic, and rightfully so.Is it just cos their countries teams are shit?So then where does national team support come into this? You wouldn't support England if you're from ivory coast
>>154891908plastics make any excuse they can to support other countries as if they were their actual country though
>>154891605Where is it? The OP doesn’t make any of this information available
>>154891878Your example of the Japanese man is someone becoming a fan, a true fan. It’s his local team and he has a connection and it would be wrong to call him a plastic or anything like that because the only difference between him and the majority of the other fans is he came to it late because his mother wasn’t able to get to the Düsseldorf hospital in time
>>154891878People support big clubs not at random, but because their games are available on TV. If I started supporting Cardiff because my mom's family is from there, until the era of endless streaming, it'd be hard to find Cardiff on TV. It'd be hard to find a Cardiff bar where Cardiff fans get together to watch matches, it'd be hard to find a forum in a non-english language that has people talking Cardiff. But with Arsenal, United, Liverpool and to an extent Chelsea, it's easy to find a bar with their flag, it's easy to find local fan groups and if you talk about Arsenal or United on 4chan or Reddit there will be plenty of people with an idea of what you're talking about. I support Arsenal, cause when I was 12 Arsenal were good but not so good I felt like I was glory chasing. Probably why there are so many Arsenal fans in America, just look at the USMNT general, the "I Believe that We Will Win" chant, American Soccer Fans are fans of a sport that was for most of my life, culturally maligned.
Soft reverse colonization deal with it. The amount of niggerbabble and yankees hats I see the average europoor spouting and wearing is embarrassing.
>>154892089Pretty sure there’s a Welsh language Cardiff fans forum you dumb American. You can look that up
>>154892015Yes, that's why I made that post. It's unfortunately very rare, though, compared to classic bandwagon behavior, probably like 1:1,000 or worse(But screw Düsseldorf lol)
>>154892117>WelshThat's Esperanto tier shit. Scottish, Irish and Welsh are just people slurring words when drunk
>>154891989send a screenshot to rainbolt
>>154892108American baseball, football and basketball have 0 (ZERO) reach outside of americaI promise you not one person in europe gives a fuck about the yankees lmao
>>154892189where do you think half of the baseball players come from numbnuts?
>>154892205>where do you think half of the baseball players...I don't
>>154892189Can’t watch American sports nowadays because of the boycott
>>154892215touché
>>154892189I own a Yankees cap and if you ever went outside you would have seen them
>>154892089Of course, there is that social dynamic ... that's true. Depending on how it goes, that might even be sufficient to serve as part of the authentic experience I personally "demand" for real fanhood. But it also can end up hilariously misdirected and all the more cringeworthyLocal fans will always gatekeep to a degree, that can be cringe as well. But it is somewhat necessary to keep a club from losing too much of its identityPersonally, I'm open to new and foreign fans of my club, but it just feels like it can easily backfire. I think my local club is about as "big" as a club can be while having basically 0 people you could refer to as bandwagoners, simply because the club has gone through a lot of shit recently. We used to have quite a few bandwagoners decades ago, but everyone who is still left now is very dedicated without a doubt. If new people want to join now, they are welcome no matter where they are from ... but yeah, in the eyes of local fans who have been through a lot with the club, maybe throughout generations, they have to prove themselves as serious while not being too tryhard, and they may not cause the club to prioritize global engagement over their local roots too much (regarding things like pricing or commercial activities). It's hard to find the goldilocks zone for everyone involved
>>154892242But are you a Yankees fan in any form?I know a few people who own MLB caps, but neither of them know what the team is called - or anything beyond that. It's a strange dynamic, guess they just bought the caps because they look cool? In any case, I think it would be ludicrous to assume that everyone with a Yankees cap is a Yankees fan. At least in EuropeIt is good business, though
>>154891552No you cant. You cant even be a fan of a club thats from another town. You can only ever be a follower or watcher. To be a real fan you need to be capable of suffering through the ties connecting you to that visceral level of blurry childhood memories, the invisible yet painfully palpable bond of blood and earth and essence it goes way higher and way deeper then frontal lobe saying "Uh I like them". We are talking about raw, unfiltered history and baggage latching straight onto your lizard brain. Who the fuck are you that you actively try to CHOOSE such things? Go go pray to the false idol of empiricism and measuring things like the faggy little science brain you are. You cannot comprehend. You cannot know. You cannot figure out. Fuck you and your arrogance, my blood literally is black and blue like my hometown clubs crest and I hate them so much it hurts but it is who we are.
>>154891552This was 10 years ago but the big 3 in Africa is usually Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal.
>>154892322Saarbrücken? Or maybe Paderborn?
>>154892322Is the lion ironic?
>>154892352Worse.
>>154892089>when I was 12 Arsenal were good but not so good I felt like I was glory chasing.my theory about arsenal fans has been proven
>>154891813im the only one I know but i know like 5 liverpool 6 Chelsea 6 man u and about 11 spurs
>>154892089>I support Arsenal, cause when I was 12 Arsenal were good but not so good I felt like I was glory chasing.Why not support an mls team?
>>154892392Oh, I didn't know you've got black as an official color over whiteHmmm ... yeah, Mannheim is kind of mysterious to me. By all means, Mannheim is a city that could be represented in the 2nd tier at least. VfR stopped being relevant ages ago (congrats to the Pokal win btw), but Waldhof never seems to be going anywhere and has seemingly never gone anywhere either - despite the Bundesliga years in the 80s. That's my outside perspective at least
>>154892462depending on how old he is, MLS might've not even existedalso MLS does not have much in terms of locality even if he lived near a teamhonestly i can kinda understand USA plastics because pretty much all USA clubs are plastic as fuck so going for another country's club wouldn't make you any less plastic
>>154892497Its Blauschwarz SVW. The Trikot is always black and blue
>>154892633I know your shirts. But I thought your official colors were blue, black, and white, admittedly
Yes because all our best players leave the country the moment they show any promise. It's like the pipe pasta following superliga clubs, a total humiliation ritual.
>>154891552yes
>>154891902What if you move?
>>154892158>Scottish, Irish and Welsh are just people slurring words when drunk
>>154891552I was going to say you just posted a video of Birmingham but then I noticed the streets were too clean.
>>154891989You’re a phoneposter. The filename was visible on my laptop earlier, but now I am here on my phone and I can’t see it either. The filename says it’s in Kenya.
>>154892661I can understand that but the identity is very clearly blau und schwarz
>>154892868You know it's true.
>>154892919So how come you are perennial midtable guys in the 3rd tier? Mannheim is a big city with certainly some capital
>>154892218What boycott? Who is being this based?
Imagine all the cute african young women getting a crush on gyokeres calafiori, odegaard or dowman
>>154892189>basketball has zero reach outside AmericaRishi...
>>154893011There are two “Scottish” languages, and one of them is indeed just slurred English. But Scottish Gaelic isn’t, and that’s similar to Irish, which is also completely impenetrable. Welsh is a totally different tribal language, although that got suppressed for centuries so now it has lots of English words in it for things that have been invented. You’re also missing less famous languages like Manx and Cornish which keep trying to get official recognition, even though nobody would ever want to speak them instead of English.
>>154893170Thats just an attempt to grow the game outside of the burger marketThey arent holding a game in london to cater to london fans. They do it to try and capture london fans
>>154892322>You cant even be a fan of a club thats from another town.Of course you can.I'd prefer, if the professional soccer team from my town simply disappeared.Its "fans" are the scum of the Earth and will hopefully all burn in hell one day.
>>154892189you're right about handegg. basketball/hockey is popular in some eastern euro countries, baseball is popular in some latinx countries and Japan.
>>154891552just your average premier fan
>>154893284Which city do you live in?
>>154893368He is a Lauternsau
>>154893253except these are official regular season NBA games not summer friendlies we get from EPL teams to "grow the game" in burgerland.Not to mention the Euro takeover of the NBA is nearly complete
>>154891552>Angry at other peoples' happinessTime to turn off the monitor and disconnect the router
>>154893554You could have just answered his question instead of lashing out like a child. Maybe you should be the one switching off the monitor? Touching some grass perhaps?
>>15489210899% of those don't even know the yankee's logo is for a sports team
>>154893505>Jokic second teamThis is just objectively wrong
>>154892189That's only true for american football.The NBA is growing in pupularity everywhere.MLB has had some following in latin America and eastern Asia.
>>154892242everybody wearing a yankees cap in europe does so because he thinks is jay-z merch.
>>154893554This. Too many people feel bitter every day of their lives nowadays.
>>154891989It's London
>>154892189Built a whole new stadium to host NHL games, tho.
>>154891989L O N D O N ONDON
>>154891552I find it absolutely insane that people give this much of a shit about something they can only watch on tv. I find it hard enough with England sometimes, it's only because I'm tied to being English and the idea of breaking the ongoing curse is quite compelling.
No.
yes. i run into Lakers fans all around the world. it brings us together.
>>154892189Canada has a team in our leagues retard. The Japanese and Dominicans love our MLB. NFL is popular in Mexico. NHL has a presence in Europe. NBA is global. You're just mad America mogs your shit pozzed country
I can go into any country in the world and find a pub dedicated to my club whose stadium I can walk to within 10 minutes.
>>154892462I support only a MLS team because the English aren't worth supporting. It would be like supporting feral animals
>>154895872Says the renter
“Supporting” a team from another nation is incredibly cringe, I see it all the time here with Premiershit consumers, what’s also cringe is “supporting” a “local” team owned by foreigners, managed by foreigners with the majority of the squad being foreigners, if it’s not locals running and playing for the team then it’s not local
>>154895921Then you wonder why you have no friends
>>154895845>>154895886>>154895920>>154896058cope, jamal
>>154896094>t. feral animal
wogball fags be out here saying "you must only like the diving faggots from your hometown!" kek
>>154891552Soccer fandom is gay
>>154891552No. You can be a cuck for a premier league marketing though.
>>154893135Boycotting America financially until they stop sending money and military aid to certain nations that have secret nuclear weapons programs in direct violation of the nuclear nonproliferation treaty. Do your best
>>154891890is he ok?
>>154905666based