>Lap:#8460>Countdown to Monaker Grand Pricks:https://f1exposure.com>Previous thread:>>155029807>/f1/ Essentials:https://pastebin.com/tZ67Gcuq >24/7 stream of the F1 Reviews from 1990-2009 (and possibly more F1-related content in the future):https://angelthump.com/gimi>Toyota Gazoo Racing Haas F1 Team powered by Ferrari Grands Prix without ever scoring a podium:220>Fernando Alonso Grands Prix since last win:230 (229 starts)>2026 WDC Standings:ANT: 131 (+31)RUS: 88 (+8)LEC: 75 (+16)HAM: 72 (+21)NOR: 58 (+7)>2026 WCC Standings:Mercedes: 219 (+39)Ferrari: 147 (+37)McLaren Mercedes: 106 (+12)Red Bull Racing Red Bull Ford: 57 (+27)Alpine Mercedes: 35 (+12)>2026 WEC Standings:RUS: 303.38 (+78.45)NOR: 244.05 (+69.83)HAD: 225.65 (+50.86)>News:Monaco qualifying: Gimi (1:12.051), Max Verstappen (+0.043), Sir Lewis Hamilton (+0.228)LEC HAD RUS PIA NOR GAS LAW ALB SAI HUL COL LIN BOR OCO PER BEA BOT ALO STR
>>155031425Invest in NARG coins
LET ME PUT NARB IN THE EXPOSURE POLL ALREADY
bumsex
gimi
Apparently the new F1 game that got shown at Summer Games Fest features a story mode with romance options
>>>/wsg/6162963>>>/wsg/6162963>>>/wsg/6162963
>2026 pole position: 1:13.051>2025 pole position: 1:09.954>2024 pole position: 1:10.270>2023 pole position: 1:11.365Not bad for first year of "shit" regulations. We'd be comfortably faster with Straight Mode.
KWAB
are you ready?
ngl I was expecting a m*rc 1-2wtf jorj
>>155031453>we
Reminder that Ferrari has the best car this weekend and Leclerc had to mess up FOUR laps, by his own mistake, to prevent a Ferrari victory
>>155031428Ferrari clear favorites again kek.beautiful yellow goddess btw
How the fuck did he lose, he lives in monaco and drives there everyday. Kimi don't even live there. Sir Russell drives his AMG-1 there everyday. Fraud fr.
Mercedes cheated people seethed
NARB giga-exposed
>Italian gimi is actually quite goodwhat is NARB thinking right now?
edd
>mercedes wins lolSo when's the next GT3 race for Verstappen?
>>155031453>1:13retard
we good so far
What have I've become, my sweetest friend?
>>155031444With women... right?
max would've taken pole by 0.3s in that ferrari and by 0.6s with that mercedes
What does he even do?
I’m getting sick of LOL KIMI WINSWhere is our George going to go now he’s being Alonsoed?
AMD AMX put it on the front row at Monaco with the fourth best car.
bets on gearbox damage for chuck lefuck?also george is finished if he can't violate kimi next race
Russell is in contention for overall sport KWABOTY
>>155031448>the new F1 game [...] features [...] romance optionsHere you go, anon:https://f95zone.to/threads/formula-zero-v0-02d-celeritas-vn.238819/
>>155031448>new F1 gameIt's not though. It's a DEI rape child of Forza Horizon, Need for Speed and Test Drive.
>>155031479non ti piace che sia un pilota italiano in questa posizione?
good news for tontonelu, ferrari isnt in the front row, if they were they could take the lead, but from row 2 looks a bit hardand max will have to look behind aswell, so, as long as kimi has a decent start, he should keep the lead
>>155031501GUCCI Alpine
Hamilton is back. What a day!!!!!! WHAT A DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>155031499dude couldn't get closer to the walls in the 3rd sector holy shit
any video of Russels tears yet?
How fucked is Russell if Antonelli wins the championship this year?
>>155031507still tony
>>155031519Fact check: This quote was taken out of context
>>155031489No, just drunk.
>NARB thought after Australia he will get Amx 2023 type season but instead he gets Perez 2023 seasonmaybe one more lucky win somewhere
>>155031524>immediately throws in a BEST CROWD
GENERATIONAL
>>155031499undeniable FACTS
>>155031532A phone call away from being the new midfield journeyman
>>155031532unironically off to the glue factory if toto can buy out max
>>155031540He said "great crowd" or something, not "best crowd"
GOATS
>>155031532If it stays like this and he gets booty blasted he's getting swapped for AMX. Toto and F1 want some fireworks again.
>>155031501Verstappen -> MercedesPiastri -> Red BullBortoleto -> McLarenRussell -> Audi
>>155031536You're right he's not a tranny porn addict. He's a tranny, porn addict
>>155031532he's done
i want Hamilton to win, just to spite the homosexual Leclerc fags who keep spaming this general
Kimi grande
>>155031532he's getting the Buttass treatment>>155031539lol
The girl from that Obsession film is on the grid tomorrow, and is doing a celebrity thing with Red Bull/AMX
>>155031554>Bortoleto -> McLarenThat's kinda hot desu
George Washedell
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1780759120023004.mp4
>>155031548Same shit you pedantic mong
>>155031491such is life in the city of Maranello
>>155031512>v0.02d>Release Date: 2025-11-01>Thread Updated: 2025-11-02I'm tired of patreon scams bros
Just a reminder : Oscar Piastri leads the WDC before the end of 2025 season
>ADUO will kick in soonHamilton's comin yo.
>>155031552>Max is lil' Gimi's idolDream scenario for Wolff if he can make it happen, really.
>>155031532straight to cadillac
>>155031518couldn't give two fucks less, he and Toto can faceplant into a wall for all I care.
>big kimiwhat did toto mean by this?
>>155031567>i want the fag to win so the fag fans of the better driver seethe
>Porris 8th with the 3rd best car
>>155031579He's cucking chuck at his home
>>155031532Pretty fucked since his 1+1 option can only be activated if he wins the title
>>155031593>better driverwhy's he losing then
>>155031593Yes.
Race over.SpainGP next
>>155031594the cheatlaren is probably the best car right now but their drivers are absolute trash
>>155031499Nah, he made a massive mistake on his first lap in Q3 and still was only a thousandth of a second behind Kimi. But that made him lose confidence and he lacked the commitment and willpower on the final lap, which was his undoing. The Red Bull was more than a match in terms of performance with the Mercedes, but Kimi won the mental battle.
>>155031575Damn getting raped by F1, africans and mudslimes must be grim.
>you now remember how Latifi matched Russell if race was tyre-limitedtruly a generational talent
Can NARG nail the start for once tho?
They are doing the nasty tonight
>>155031605spain next
>>155031575Massa not winning still hurts my soul.
>>155031532reserve driver.
>>155031594>Woody 6th with a rocketship
>>155031620hamilton will be p1 after turn 1
what does he DO?
>>155031586I could see AMX joining, winning a WDC then taking leaving F1 until the V8's come around in 2030/2031.
>9 years since Kimi was last on the pole at Monaco
>>155031620its the mercedes that sucks, but look >>155031522and the distance to t1 is very short, so only needs to be decent
>>155031602because this reg cycle rewards worse driving
>antonelli wins XDyeah im out,after 27 years watching im doneenjoy the death of the sport
>>155031448do you get to play as a whore romancing athletes?
>WOW WHAT A SPECIAL LAP BY THE CAR THAT HAS BEEN ASTRO GAPPING EVERY OTHER CAR ON THE GRID THIS YEAR I CANT BELIEVE IT!!!1!!
>>155031648Hence Max outperforming GOATjar
>>155031650"sport"
>>155031635hamilton is literally complete and utter shit, bro
>>155031625why does a girl like this have capeshit on the wall?
>>155031648then explain hadjar's gap to verstappen
>>155031663it doesnt inverse driver skill, it just makes it way easier for bad drivers
>>155031650If it survived hamilshart it will survive this.
>>155031576One update per year has become the norm for these, for better or worse. The most popular ones take longer: BAD's last update was in March 25 and it still has 2 months or so to go to the next one.
how did scouts know kimi would be so good when his results in f2 were shit?
>>155031661Probably for simp bux
If it was anyone other than max, I'd like it to be antonelli or leclerc.I'd hate if it was jorg or shamilton.
>>155031661autism
name this band
>>155031670but why is hadjar so slow compared to verstappen if the regs normalize driver skill
hamilton's car will blow up tomorrow
>>155031690the faggots
>>155031687Yeah, narg pole is the second best thing possible because it fucks over jorj more if nothing else.
>>155031652Do you wear panties?
>>155031690The Seething Faggots
>>155031661idk, the last time i spoke to a female, outside school or work, was in a club in like 22 23they wanted to take a pic with me
>>155031690Three gay retards.
>>155031693>2010+16>People still belive RedBull has 2 cars on par
>>155031678because his team in f2, Prema, was going to shit and he was getting okayish results and outscoring Ollie who was his teammate
Toto on Austrian tv is glazing Verstappen a lot.
>>155031443>i will NEVER apologize to torger's little fleshlightnono, Toto is definitely the catcher in that relationship
>>155031690three seething retards
>>155031710that doesn't explain anything
>>155031678Because he was winning everything before skipping F3 and happened to jump into Prema the moment they became a shit team.
>>155031690Rent Free
>>155031690The Washboard
>>155031687>leclerc.he's literally losing to a 44 yo, do you think he deserves a pole?>>155031708is mercedes also sabotaged?
>>155031708holy cope
>>155031699I'm hoping the rumors of russell being dropable by merc if he's behind fake kimi by the summer break are true. Mostly because it would mean that we might be free of russell next year (assuming that max leaves red bull and goes to merc).
>>155031693again, they dont. They can only normalize it so much, driver a who previously was a 6/10 is now a 8/10, while a driver who was previously a 8/10 is now a 8/10 still
>>155031678He had all eyes on him since his pre-f2 days. That's why he got to skip F3 and his F2 season was considered a formality. Toto was also acting on pure cope and trauma from having lost AMX to RB during his early junior years.
>>155031690The Carbabby Bandits
>>155031713means nothing, the better out rival is the better we are for beating him
>>155031725I like chuck, personally. And if it had to come down between chuck of pewis I'd much rather it be chuck.
>>155031655He anally gaped his teammate who anally gaped lewis "biggest fraud in sports" Hamilton so the fraud pyramid is being nicely deconstructed which is quite exciting, unexpected, overall good fun.
>>155031690"Im a former champions and in Debt so i forced to be Journos" club
>>155031678Testing with Previous Cars program and simulator.
>>155031732>while a driver who was previously a 8/10 is now a 8/10 stillthat doesn't explain or back up what you're saying about hadjar's gap to max. or russell's gap to kimi. unless you are saying kimi is a 10/10 driver, and russell is 8/10 in which case yeah 0.3sec average quali gap makes sense.
UPDATE!
>>155031713Every team principal knows Max is the best driver on the grid, Briatore was glazing him yesterday but that doesn't mean Max to Alpine is happening
>>155031755are they really? Rosberg is a journo as well and he made 200 million last year
>>155031760haha homo haha
>>155031759i am. Hadjar is now a 8/10 driver to maxs 11/10, narb is a 7/10 to nargs 9/10, etc
how do max and gorge keep their hairline intact at teenage levels while I'm already having recession in the corners and my eyebrows/eyelashes falling out at 23 despite how much stress they must experiencenofap? personal therapist/healthcare? stress free lives? quality hair stylist and shampoo? good sleep?
Watching tomorrow to see jorj crash
>>155031713water wet
>>155031690Three Gays Raced
>>155031781patriot
>>155031780its because youre polish
>>155031764they spent 250 million per year
>>155031776so you are saying that hamilton is better driver than leclerc, in a roundabout way
>>155031780consider investing in turkish GP tickets
>>155031797on what?>>155031798with these regs that reward bad drivers? Yeah, maybe, well have to see, the season and reg cycle is far from done. In a normal car that doesnt have retarded gimicks that reward shitters(so every other car in the world)? Hell no
>>155031784kekaroo
>>155031780being a wagie does that to a man
>>155031798Yes.
>>155031780im 45 and only have a tiny bit of hair loss
>>155031764Rosberg clearly just enjoys talking shit and revisiting the paddock now and then. Some of the mediocrities are hustling it as an actual career.
>Is Russell In Trouble?"Monaco qualifying started out with a bang, leaving championship contender Russell wondering once again what he has to do to stop his championship hopes from running away with the youngster, who once again set a blistering pole time, undercutting the pre-season favorite by a whopping 0.4 second margin"
Considering Hadjar also qualified 5th and beat Russell, I wonder if this is just a great one-off for Red Bull or if they are on an upward trajectory. Verstappen doing what he did in the second half of last year must be on Mercedes' minds right now.
>>155031624who macheted her arm?
>>155031624Just being near her is nasty.
GOD THESE NIGGERS ARE FUCKING LOSERS NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THESE NIGGERS IS EVEN LIKEABLE
life to mercedes, as always
>>155031780Are you sniffing any chemicals at work?That would be the easiest thing to detect and avoid.Toilette cleaning chemicals must be aggressive.
>>155031780genetics is a much bigger factor. see >>155031793
>>155031866checked. thanks for your input, satan.
>>155031866haha this is the perfect sabotage
>>155031780Stop using hotel shampoo.
>>155031780having a full head of hair is for girls full of estrogen
>>155031866>>155031890>>155031905shameless samefaggotryno, screenshots don't do anything to prove otherwise
russell is being sabotaged. this WDC was promised to him.toto is sabotaging him to get max.
>>155031930>toto wants the best driver of all timeunderstandable
>>155031930>russell is being sabotaged.is it the same people that were sabotaging Hamilton?
>>155031930good, I never liked russlel anyway
death to m*rcedes as always
>>155031713rightfully so
>>155031948hamilton didn't like ground effect cars he wasn't being sabotaged.
The Great Satan can have a Kimi wdc
>>155031951he's shitting
>merc can supposedly drop russell if he's behind antonelli after Hungary or whatever>mad can supposedly leave redbull if he's not second or higher in the wdc after hungaryI hate Mercedes, the cheating bastards. But max in a merc cheat car, with the protection merc gets for being "British", would be crazy.So crazy, that I want to see it happen.
>>155031928Half of my state is larger and more populous than your nation, stop projecting, faggot.
>>155031969don't care if he's shitting, pissing or cumming, I just need him to lose
>>155031966no it cannot german
George Rus-smell
>>155031976fuck off and learn how to read
>>155031976>imagine being this madare you a ngubu?
>>155031425what happened to russlel ? why he p6 ?
>>155032003i apologize on behalf of the other burger, but i can assure you that he's not me. that being said, i cannot stand mercedes-benz hatred any more.
he will never be a real boy
>>155031713It's what happens when you're the #1 race boy.
>>155032022He's Russell.
Antonelli is going to win as many titles as Rosberg since next year red bull will be back to being the grid's rocketship
>>155031970>merc can supposedly drop russell if he's behind antonelli after Hungary or whateverNo sane person would ever sign a contract like that.Then again, we are talking about Gorge Rushle.
>>155032054but why?
Watching the race on the farm and i have to ask, why is Russell pissed?
The nearly "Satanic" level of embarassment that George Russianlel has been subjected to - and I mean this - HAS to continue.His mental degradation will be complete. His disillusionment - perfect. His growring state of disbelieve - absolute.The world holds its breath - until the utter humiliation of George Russel is complete.
>>155032067He was desperate for a contract last year, and only got one because he won Singapore. He most definitely would have signed the contract when he thought he was going to get an easy season with the 2026 car.Too bad for him antonelli is having a better time with the car than he is.
>be enraged when Max wins 2021>pretend to love Max>hint that Max would be asked to join Mercedes>once Max joins make the car as shitty as possible resulting in Max getting killed in a crashThis is Toto's secret plan.
>>155032065That means 1 more title than Jorj
>>155032067>I beat Hamilton>I'm one of the best drivers on the grid>The team is shaped around me since I've been there several years>Our engine is the best by miles>My teammate is a rookie with no experience and an urge to shit the bed during the entire European leg of the seasonyeah whatever Toto you can add that clause if you want, I'll be 100 points in the lead by half-season anyway
>>155032065>red bull will be back to being the grid's rocketshipsource?
>>155031970this and i want them to drop the black thing for ever and everwhite suits + silver cars, no blackness whatsoeverand do you wanna know a truth nuke? had not they sign the negro back in 2013, mercedes and f1 in general would be much more tolerable to "our" (racist veteran chuds) eyesmost of us wouldn't mind if rosberg got 3 or 4 extra titles, with the remnants of the negro era titles going to the #2 driver, beeman at ferrari or maybe even ricciardo
>>155032128based
>>155032128gay
>>155032083
>>155032128kill yourself toto apologist
>>155032128unfathomably based anonimagine if we got 7 years of rosberg domination instead of hamilwog, sky and the british media would seethe so fucking hard over their darling nigger being in alonsos place back during the 2010s
>wef rosberg should have won 3 or 4 'extra' titleshe really said it
>>155032077he's shitting
Question lads: How is f1 able to push any of its communist marxist manifesto when it has literally lost half its viewers in some of its base Countries, Like how does liberty force its globo homo filth on people when hardly anyone is watching or being exposed to it anymore?f1 was already losing hundreds of millions of dollars every year and is billions in debt, How can the show go on for much longer when they literally wont have the petrol left to put into the tanks of their tranny truck floats?
>>155032128if hamilton's teammates didn't all get beat by hamilton, hamilton would have less titles.
>>155031713It's happening
I just had a shit that felt like uncorking a champagne bottle. Five minutes of suffering for a thick chunk to fly out followed by 20 seconds of nothing but brown water.Anyway, any races for this feel?
austroportuguese retard infestion itt
>>155032177>rosberg dominationi dont see how a guy who was getting beat by washed up, post-neck injury schumi "domianting" anything unless he gets in a completely op car like button.
>>155032067Russell barely got a new contract so I could see it
If ham didn't got to merc who would have been Nico's teammate?
>>155032186good, cazzies and gloryhunters begone the season is fun despite shitty regs
>>155032187>if hamilton's teammates didn't all get beat by hamiltonThey didn't. Which is part of the reason he doesn't have more then seven titles, despite FIA's best efforts.
>>1550321872 team mates btw1 is a back marker now btwThe other was a midfield driver until he got a pitt drive because he's German btw
>>155032222your mother's cunt
>>155032201cam on, they are among the best postersbut im not following the thread that much, maybe they are going a bit loco
>>155032222Michael Schumacher.They literally pushed him out because Lauda wanted Hamilton.
>>155032222bottas>>155032235eh, not really
>>155032206which he did with mercedes. Stroll would have won every title 14 to 21 if he was in that merc
>>155032222checkedi think they said they wanted hulk as their second choice?
>>155032253driving like shit makes you have more technical issueslook at porris for example
>>155032251>They literally pushed him out because Lauda wanted Hamilton.he was among the best drivers on the grid so good call.>>155032259ehh, there was maybe 1 season when the merc was so OP a bad driver like bottas would have won. every other season it would have been ferrari winning or some such team.
>>155032251>Lauda wanted Hamilton.what a shame that that gross old cuckold didn't die in 77
>>155032253>he's posting AI screencaps againMay I remind you what you claimed to never have done just yesterday?>>155016298>ya i remember that, but im pretty sure i wasnt talking about hamilton being good or not but AI being a useful tool, which the germ conflated into " spammed literal AI screencaps of arguments why Hamilton was supposedly the "goat"" because he has an axe to grind both with hamilgoat and AI, i presume
>>155032299cute how you're still madalso, not an argument.
>>155032253>AI screencap
>>155031495preferably
>>155032307Cute how you're still a pathetic Hamilton fanboy who needs his opinions reinforced by literal artificial stupidity.
>>155032321>>155032325if you were smarter than you are then you could just google the answer yourself without needing to rely on my AI screencap.
>>155032187Maybe if his team mates cars didn't get slowed down and sabotaged by mercedes themselves they would have beaten him/her/it/pronoun
>>155032335>needing to rely on my AI screencapNo one here relies on it but you, mate. Because it's complete bullshit.
>>155032325>>155032321also not an argument, forgot to say.merc would have lost WDC with bottas in 2017 and 2018 at the very least.
>>155032253>>155032280
>ynr colapiss
>>155032344>Because it's complete bullshit.got some non-AI facts to back this up?who am i kidding, of course you don't, you'll just whine for a few rounds of back n worth then devolve into crying about something unrelated like the jewish calendar lol
>>155032361your response? >>155032347
>>155032338They really couldn't have made it any more obvious than "foreign substance in the steering column" in the last race of the season and also the only-ever double-pointer.Never saw that kind of mechanical "defect" again in F1 or anywhere in motorsport, did we?
>>155032347>thought for 4sDamn. Imagine taking this long to come to an obvious conclusion. Really shows that AI will never catch up with the human mind.
>>155031532Back to williums
>>155032353do i?
>>155032361>>155032344>no responsekek, just like yesterday
Mods remove this as spam it’s just one guy speaking to himself >>154978094There’s another box thread up
>>155031532It's already too late. Everyone has seen how slow he is.
>>155032206nah Rosberg would fucking sweep those titles and i don't even rate him, particularly 2014-2016 and 2019-2020 the gap was so big that it would be legit easier to name drivers that wouldn't get the wdc in them than those that would>>155032259>Stroll would have won every title 14 to 21 if he was in that mercImo that's going to far, Stroll is one of the handful that could manage to bin a title in that rocketship
>>155032407Dude, another anon already responded.You can literally get AI to say anything.And, no, I cannot give you proof for something that wasn't the case not being the case. For the same reason you cannot prove something doesn't exist or why they don't ask you to prove your innocence at court.You're the moron who brought up some ridiculous theory. The burden of proof is on you.
>there's a chance max could win with the still overweight red bull>but it's monacoSure, monaco has some prestige. But it's not because it's a good track, just because it's old and full of rich guys.
>>155032445Kek
>>155032445jej
>>155032450how overweight is that dead bull though?
>>155032424here's more AI facts for you since you like them >Rosberg would fucking sweep those titleswe weren't talking about rosberg. we were talking about stroll somehow being a 7 time WDC or something. he likely wouldn't walk to an easy title outside of 2014-2016, and i wouldnt put it past him to have a season like 2008 kovalainen.>>155032442>wah wah AI bad>meanwhile when I say 2016 rosberg didn't have worse luck than hamilton me right kek>You're the moron who brought up some ridiculous theoryyou brought up yesterday when you spent 2 hours trying to claim that christianity doesn't have the largest established religious precedent in human history then you ended up quitting the argument after your last attempt was something like "the hebrew calendar is 5000 years old" LOL
>>155032445brutal
>>155032424>Stroll is one of the handful that could manage to bin a title in that rocketshipI think this is fair. Even if only to his teammate. Particularly because unlike Hamilton, he wouldn't have been the team's #1, and not have gotten preferential treatment from the stewards. And Hamilton did manage to lose a title despite that.
>>155032450monaco is a good trackit's the cars that are shit for it, they are way too damn long
>>155032417arent you also one of the mentally ill spammers there
>>155032467>here's more AI factsPlease just stop with that ridiculous bullshit. For your sake.
>>155032498trying to deflect won't earn you points in an actual argument any more than me copypasting AI summaries since i already know you're arguing in bad faith from yesterday
>>155032487monaco has the largest established racing precedent in human history
>Max and Red Bull on the rise>turbo autist """german""" can't keep his autism containedclockwork
>[autosport] That is Fernando Alonso's worst qualifying result around Monaco (P21) since making his F1 debut. He finished higher in a Minardi (P18)NEWEY STATUS?
>>155032512>points in an actual argumentThat you think someone is tallying "points" here or that this is a competition you need to "win" tells me a lot about how fucking beyond reason you are.
>>155032485>he wouldn't have been the team's #1, and not have gotten preferential treatment from the stewardsNever mind that, what do you think is the religion with the most established historic precedent?
>>155032445>his smile and optimism: gone
shit race man, just shit race
>>155032536go back to cocacola 600 thread
>>155032528>That you think someone is tallying "points" here or that this is a competition you need to "win" tells me a lot about how fucking beyond reason you are.you spent all of yesterday arguing that christianity is smaller than some mesopotamian folk religion and then the mask off was that you were just seething at "religious zealots", just like you are now seething at AI and Hamilton. Now go and deflect again or go radio sielnt.
>>155032445Heh... My boy George...
>>155031619alboff was genuinely more impressive against goatifi than NARB, and that says a lot
>>155032543fine!!!
>>155032536Which race are you talking about?
>>155032544Nice to know I mindbroke you completely, chistcuck Hamiltard. Now go talk to your AI boyfriend
>>155031619russel lost to 1 hand kubica
>>155032524Plebbitos are saying he's only hating the regs because he's driving a shitbox. We all know drivers love driving F-E's.
>>155032561Too embarassed to reckon with your own retardation, which is ironic since you are the one who brought up yesterday's chat.
