I'm not paying this much kek.
>>155068838Decline? They’ve ascended to the form they always envisioned.
>>155068838It doesn't matter how they became like this. But they've been creeping towards this stage for many years. What matters is that they're absolute scum and should be purged
>>155068939this
>>155068913i meant decline as in quality
>>155068838$560 to watch Spain roll over Cape Verde 5-0 in a nothing match, the absolute state
>>155069268Tbf that’s two tickets, it’s only $275 a person (from the worst seats in the stadium)
>>155069494>it’s only $275
I'm honestly not trolling here but if you're an average American professional making $150-250k then shelling out for the once-in-a-lifetime experience of a WC in your city is really not a big deal at all. I mean the only reason I'm not going is because we >put a new roof on the house >are selling a condo at breakeven or a loss >2 weeks in europe in august If we didn't have all of those expenses I would absolutely go see a game.
>>155069494it's $560 each
>>155069721>once in a lifetime: Spain's C squad vs literal who coconut farmershard pass
>>155068838someone else will buy it just watch it at home poorfag
>>155069845Oh dang you’re right lmao. A couple going to see it would be well over $1200 with drinks and transport and such. Comical.
>>1550692685-0? Wouldn't be surprised if Spain goes to the double digits
>>155068838It's a combination of both FIFA and Zion Don and I think everyone here can agree with that.
>>155068838dude, divegrass is poorball for a reason, look at this american sport
>>155070237the funniest part is that almost none of the people going are actual fansthey are all people who just want to be seen looking like fans
>>155069721I'd need to be earning $1 million annually to justify $500 for nosebleed soccer ticketsIn some countries, $500 is the average annual wage.
>>155069143Quality?
>>155069268im genuinely baffled at who is buying these tickets
>there are people who are willing to spend half their life savings to engage in this luxurious bread & circus
where do people get the money? even my friends who have good jobs from difficult college degrees can spend like this so I don't know how all the poor people who are football fans are suposed to do it, especially all the third world countries in this world cup.
>>155070321thirdies blowing their entire savings or corporationsnormal people are not
>>155069721>once-in-a-lifetime experience of a WC in your city is really not a big deal at allThis is the second time this has happened in my city in my lifetime and I'm in my mid-30s
>>155070426thirdies can't afford ityanks aren't interestedno one is buying these ticketsthey are 20x overpricedthe stadia will be empty
Capitalism in the most dystopian capitalist shithole (USA)
>>155068838Imagine paying anything, no imagine even watching it for free on TV somewhere, 22 Africans kicking a fucking ball about while people think it's somehow anything to do with them and their country.
>>155069537It should be $27.50 per ticket with a free pisswater beer included.
>>155070618Adolf is right... why wasted your free time (and sleep time) to watch some fishermen kick ball or even worse, overpayed zoomer ngubus with an shoe-size iq, reptesenting your country.Modern football is so ridiculous. Thank god we suck so bad...
>>155068838an org so corrupt and greedy they made EA of all companies the good guysanother reminder there is no world cup game this year because of their greed
how much does the final cost?
>>155071316i think i read somewhere they did partner up with fucking konami of all companies
>>155070443Get ready for 2038 as well. Because of the extreme multi-hosting of 2030, the only available confederations then will be North America and Oceania. Chances are the US will host alone, maybe with one or two games going to New ZealandIf that happens, the US will be the second country (after Mexico!) to host three different World Cups. Mexico in 1970, 1986 (as a replacement host), and 2026. The US in an even crazier 1994, 2026, 2038
>>155069494It's only a 5 times increase over the last cupI wonder if they'll lower the prices to a more reasonable 3 times for the next cup
>>155071423>5 time increase for worse qualityThis new format is so insanely dumb anywayWe went from the closest thing to perfection to the biggest garbage>32 teams in eight groups of four -> group winners face runner-ups>doable to host for basically every single relevant nation alone>good representation of all continents, pretty high quality and balance overall>48 teams in 12 groups, 32 teams advance because 8/12 3rd-placed teams advance in a very dumb cross-group comparison>some group winners play 3rd-placed teams, some play 2nd-placed teams, some 2nd-placed teams play other 2nd-placed teams>more games in total, more strain>considerably harder to host alone, FIFA additionally encourages the most insane multi-hosting because of their megalomania (2026, 2030: three continents, six countries)>noticeable downturn in quality already, stark overrepresentation of federations FIFA politicians get the most votes from
>>155071335about 1e40 bolivares
>>155070390I only know one person around me who could afford these prices. He's a millionaire and he didn't get there by spending 600 dollars on soccer tickets to third-tier matches.
>>155071486Yeah 16 team Euros and 32 team WC were absolute perfection and every change from that is disastrous
>>15507148664 team world cup will happen by 2034. It will reduce the quality further but at least allow a return to the old format of only top 2 going through
>>155069721>average American making $250k
>>155069721>American professional making $150-250k
>>155071831Perhaps not by 2034, but yes, they will eventually do this. Or at least tryAfter all, their initial proposal was 16 groups of 3 with penalty shootouts in the group stage. Hilariously retarded, people rightfully complained. And then FIFA could go "oh, we hear you. Here's a new format for you since we're so open to your feedback" - the new/current format, which coincidentally means even more games and therefore more money, in principle at least. The eventual 64 team expansion will be the same. They will sell it as a courteous and fan-friendly fix, but it will coincidentally mean even more games and even more money, in principle at leastHowever, I could imagine this going wrong, since hosting such an event will be ridiculously hard. You'd need 20 modern stadiums with >40,000 bowl seats, modern amenities, luxury boxes, and roofs. The number of potential hosts is very low, but I am 100% sure they will still try at leastAlso, get ready for a completely ridiculous distribution of spots. I think they will completely favor Africa and especially Asia to finally approach China qualifying, maybe India and Indonesia as well in the long termI expect something along the likes of>Europe: 16 -> 18>South America: 6 -> 8>North America: 6 -> 8>Asia: 8 -> 13>Africa: 9 -> 13>Oceania: 1 -> 1>Intercontinental (everyone except UEFA): 2 -> 4
>>155068838this higher income will allow the soccer teams to put more into their training facilities, new stadiums and to buy better players/give better contracts.This will make the soccer league to become better than ever before
>>155072062>>South America: 6 -> 8>>North America: 6 -> 8>>Asia: 8 -> 13>>Africa: 9 -> 13literally just adding shit teams
why would you even bother trying to go to these hyper-premium events live? imagine your team getting a red card in the 1st minute after all that stress? you couldn't enjoy it.you get a better view watching TV anyway.
>>155069537Get rich or kill yourself douchbag, this is America
>>155068838Ok, and? Then don't go.
>>155072280UEFA will not get more than 20. I think FIFA will argue 18 is enough since it still is the most. Expansions are intended to reduce UEFA dominance. Africa and Asia have the most members, so they are the most useful for FIFA politics. They are the easiest to bribe. It is easy to justify giving these regions extra attention because of "growing the sport" and "taking care of developing nations"South America will aim for 8, and they know this is the maximum for them. Maybe it will only be 7, but they will get one more spot at least. If they get 8, they will probably fall out of the Intercontinental Playoffs, since 9/10 would be too crazyNorth America will likely get the same treatment as South America, since it will be a point of pride for both. FIFA's main interest last time was ensuring the US qualifies for every WC. That is achieved now, but they will have no issue handing out another 1 or 2 spots, the argument being that CONCACAF has quite many members - even if most of them are tiny islands. I think they will get 7 or, more likely, 8, and probably access to the intercontinental round as wellAsia is likely the biggest market for FIFA to exploit next. It is richer than Africa, and FIFA will be especially keen on the many customers of China, India, Indonesia, and Vietnam. To give any of these nations a chance, they will need 12 spots at the very least. And so it will happen. I could actually see them getting up to 14. Plus intercontinental playoffsAfrica will be held equal with Asia. It is more balanced quality-wise and has a lot of growth potential in theory, but the markets aren't there yet. FIFA cares more about markets than about strength. They assume that 12-14 spots will be more than enough to get the relevant African markets inOceania will stay at 1 since it is the biggest clown confederation apart from New ZealandIntercontintal rounds show FIFA's greed and megalomania, they will get expanded as well. More games, more interactions, more cash
I lived in this country for over 20 fucking years and could never afford to go to a sports game they would show on TV.I used to go to concerts and small venues, but they all got bought out by ticketmaster and the insane scalpers also demand you spend $500 to see someone like fucking Bruno Mars in a stadium. Taylor Swift tickets are thousands because white roasties are just that stupid and yet she still sells out.My younger cousin went to see Taylor Swift in Japan, because it was fucking cheaper for her to travel to Japan and pay for a ticket there than one locally in our state (Illinois). Just made a whole vacation out of it.
>>155069721>American professionals
>>155072280>>155072684they are literally just going to keep expanding until china and india are in
>>155070237to be fair Knicks are always expensive as fuck, even when they fucking sucks. They haven't been to the finals since 1999, won it since 1973 and they are up 2-0. Everyone in New york is selling his soul to go there if needed
>>155070511>the stadia will be emptyFIFA’s site only has tickets available for a few matches. I assume scalpers bought up most of the tickets and fifa made their money
>>155071423Just 3x the ticket prices of this World Cup? That would be such a bargain <3
>>155069721>yfw American professionals spend $500 to watch 90 mins of soccer trash
>>155073298It is the 100th-year anniversary after all! And the best World Cup ever! Surely you can be expected to pay some more for the jubilee World Cup, the best ever2034 will then be the best best ever, though. A moderate increase for such an event must be expected and accepted as well. And boy, can you imagine how great it will be when the World Cup returns to the US in 2038? The best ever.
>>155073357500 would almost be cheap at this point considering some other prices FIFA came up with
>>155073366it's not. Next WC is
>>155069721>average american professional making 250k a year>average american professionalIs this really how the other half lives and thinks?
>>155069721I get the sense I'd have just as good a time getting wasted with the foreigners in my downtown without needing to be in the stadium itself, and at a tenth of the price.>>155071486>more games in total, more strainYeah but that means more money for FIFA>2030: three continents, six countriesThis one's just plain funny
I will be in the US in early July so I went to the fifa site to check out the ticket prices and there is a 20 minute line to be able to see them. I just gave up since it was a quarter final and it will probably cost a leg.
>>155073842>I went to the fifa site to check out the ticket prices and there is a 20 minute lineIs this for the FIFA website?
>>155068838Want soulless NFL product? Get soulless NFL prices. Enjoy your $25 watered down piss beer.
>>155073292This. Knicks at MSG up 2-0 in the finals is not comparable to round 1 of the povertyball cup.
>>155069721>the once-in-a-lifetime experience of a WCexactly why i wont go
>>155073960Yeah, now it's 7 minutes.
>>155071831What the hell is the point of watching 64 nations full of nogs who all look the same and have name like mbeki chugwanko? F. the nogball cup
>>155069268>spain>scorelol
i was considering going to some games until they made the format bigger, made me lose any interest I had
>>155073385That's what anon said. "next World Cup", so 2030. The one we don't know the prices of yet. It also is visible in my post, I speak of 2030 and then about 2034 and 2038. Speaking of 2026 and then of 2034 wouldn't have made sense
>>155068838I don't get it; the only ones hyped for this WC are the countries going there for the first time or 2nd tier teams. Sure, every "doomed" impression will go away the moment it starts like with Russia and Qatar (ynr muh worker's human rights) but still can't feel excitement around it.>almost $100 for a subway ticket from NJDownright stupid bussiness, almost sabotage imo
>>155069721why aren't you renting the condo retard?
>>155076418if you were spending big money regardless, it would be better to stay in Manhattan and take the train into New Jersey desu, rather than the opposite
>>155068838If Tay Tay can do it we can too
>>155072062>South America: 6 -> 8Why stop there? Might as well make every CONMEBOL team make it
>>155071859If you’re mid 30s and not making minimum $125k you’re a failure
>>155070321>who is buying these ticketsSomeone really into soccer and just excited to see World Cup. Maybe viewing it as their only life time chance. Like sure it's too much money for the level of game and I assume we will see a lot of empty seats for weak match ups.But at the same time 1k is a two week pay check at meh job paying $16 an hour. It's not like it's totally out of reach like say Super Bowl tickets. Do hosts even count on lower game ticket sales? I would assume it's all sponsors, merch and concessions.
>>155078009What a good little goyim. Thinking you life value is only work and shekel collecting.
>>155078009post payslip
There is some bargain prices for Iran vs New Zealand
>I'm not paying this much kek.Nobody is. The team USA opening match is not even sold out. I hope this greed will hurt FIFA for a long time.
>>155078009I'm 30 and I make a lot less than that, but that's because I'm a PhD student with a stipend. My wife makes over 100k though.
>>155069721The nearest match for me is a 9 hour drive that now requires an upsold shitty $300 hotel, $100 parking, and a $200 single ticket to watch Equador play Curacao in a match that will have no bearing on anything in the history of the universe.Also will need to spend $40 on two bottles of water since I can't bring my own in and will be getting burnt to death from the no roof stadium.I'd happily spend $500 on four tickets and parking plus basic food/water/beer to enjoy a random match 30 minutes away.
>>155081658>The nearest match is a 9 hour drive to kansas cityHoly flyover, batman
>>155068838>Tickets are selling fast!Kek. It's literally a home-shopping-TV tier scam at this point.
>>155081676>>155081708I suppose I lied.The nearest match is about half that, but in that awful Canadian temporary shithole stadium.That might as well not exist its so shite.
>>155069494Bro that says EACH