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World Cup host country should be defined only after qualifiers and between the qualified countries to the main stage. Euro worked by this mode between 1960 and 1976, for example.
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>>155073796
Too expensive nowadays, you will end up like the CAF where host countries just back off before the tournament because they can't afford it
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>>155073796
It’s not a bad idea and I wouldn’t be against it but it’s not really necessary if established countries are selected as hosts. There should be some criteria though, like you must’ve qualified for the previous three editions to host or something like that
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>>155073848
The expensiveness needs to be addressed. It and some other factors are going to kill the tournament, same problem already happening with the Olympics
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Frankly they should cancel the worldcup entirely and make a world league

every 4 years the top 50 worldwide compete against each other in a world league
champions at the end become the world champions

bottom 5 get relegated to the FIFA world League 2

and basta no more international friendlies and no more flukes the most regular teams get to stay above the others they fall down and no more cocacola ranking

>>155073848
it's not that it's not affordable
you gotta face it, host country gains nothing from hosting any type of tournaments
unless it's the US fraudulent tax system that will tax 90% of what any team will earn from this WC
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>>155073848
You're right, but the real problem is that hosting a World Cup shouldn't be all that expensive.
It's not a coincidence that we're getting hosts like Russia, Qatar, America and KSA in such a short time frame ;)
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I really find absurd that England and Spain had hosted only one WC
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>>155074070
Spain bid six times to be World Cup hosts. 1930, 1966, 1974, 1982, 2018 and now 2030. England bid four times. 1966, 1990, 2006, 2018.
Among the big boys we also have Germany who hosted two World Cups in six (valid) attempts, Brazil with two WCs in four (valid) attempts, Argentina with one WC and one consolation prize in five attempts, and the Netherlands with no World Cups in two attempts.

In 2018 Russia competed with joint bids by Spain/Portugal and Belgium/Netherlands, and still managed to come out on top.
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It's a fucking joke that USA has hosted twice but England only once.
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>>155074070
>>155074601
England should have hosted 1930 in my opinion, simply by virtue of being the mother country of the sport. Uruguay should have been given the second iteration. But it it didn't come to be
England having a hilariously bad relationship with FIFA is the reason for their absence in this regard. They didn't bother to apply for hosting until 1966. Hosting in Europe is harder than elsewhere, there are so many countries to choose from. They arguably got snubbed in 2018, but Russia was a valid choice as well on paper, even without corruption
Germany and Italy hosting twice compared to England's one tournament isn't that much of a big difference, it's just 2:1 and can be explained historically
So I don't think it can be fully compared. In North America, there's only the US and Mexico. But Mexico being the first nation to host three World Cups is indeed a bit ridiculous
Also, get ready for the US hosting again in 2038
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>>155075976
I checked and England is only eligible to be host again in 2042. FIFA is so gay.
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>>155074256
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In 2018 Russia competed with joint bids by Spain/Portugal and Belgium/Netherlands, and still managed to come out on top.
Yeah they bought it
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>>155074601
Oh no
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>>155073796
USA Should be barred from hosting another WC after this abysmal performance

they took hosting duties and treated it as if it is just some random city concert and nothing more. It disrespects the name "World Cup" Host Countries should be trying to light the biggest pile of cash on fire to create spectacular venues and show themselves off on the world stage.

Meanwhile the only thing my host city has shown off is 9 injured in a shooting by Englands world cup base camp.
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>>155074601
>It's a fucking joke that USA has hosted twice but England only once.
Saying the USA is hosting this alone is a joke, it'd be more akin to the UK hosting it jointly with Russia and Italy
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>>155078667
Don't be ridiculous. Texas alone will have 14 games while Mexico and Canada get 13 each. Pretty much every game that matters will take place in America, except for one in the R16 that will be played in CDMX.
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Sorry, I miscounted. Texas gets 16 games, not 14.
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>>155078779
Did Argentina host any games in 2014? No, than shut the fuck up Pedro
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>>155074070
FIFA hates us
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>>155078815
FIFA doesn't like the 3 lions and them all talkin about "footies coming home" because that would imply ingurland is footies home, and not FIFA.
It's the jealousy that does it
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>>155078801
Of course not. It was a World Cup in Brazil, not a joint event. And I'd prefer the WC to be hosted in just Mexico or just America as opposed to three countries, if that's what you meant.
My point isn't that Mexico or Canada deserved more games and I feel sorry for them. The point is that it is effectively a USA World Cup with some scraps left to the co-hosts.

And even if the three hosts were on equal footing, the Brit's point would still stand. All three countries combined don't reach half of England's football significance, and England would certainly be a more convenient host for all.
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>>155078913
football significance isn't really relevant to host a World Cup, and I don't think it should matter. A Host Country should put in effort to host the world, and if they don't, and treat it like any other Sunday as venue hosts they shouldn't get it like the USA in 2026.
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>>155078980
It doesn't matter from a corporate standpoint, it is true. America and the Gulf states have the muscle to serve infrastructure that Europeans and South Americans can't compare with. China would be a terrific host from this perspective too.
But forgive me when I say that a 70,000 seater for Iran v New Zealand isn't worth it comparing to hosting a World Cup in a country with a strong football culture. A World Cup in England have much better odds of recreating the magic of France 1998, Germany 2006 and Brazil 2014 than most countries around the globe, even if some games would be played in 30,000 or 40,000 seaters.

Of course, you can come back here by the end of the World Cup and say it was a commercial success. It will break America's own record as the top attendance World Cup in history, and thanks to the insane ticket prices it will also be by far the most profitable one. I can't argue with numbers. And it's not like FIFA care about anything beyond that.
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>>155073848
The Olympic Village concept applied to WC would be useful to cut most of hosting costs.
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>>155075976
>But Mexico being the first nation to host three World Cups is indeed a bit ridiculous
Not to be biased, but Mexico is a nice choice for a World Cup
We have the stadiums, the culture, and the team is not good enough for the local advantage to matter. Maybe the weather and the elevation of some cities would be negative aspects for some people
If it was always in countries like Germany or England, people would complain about their home advantage
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>>155074601
You know what's a joke, cheating at home to win your only World Cup in the sports you invented
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>>155073848
Just spend less money
Imagine povertyball's defining trait being that it's too fucking expensive to host, like the Olympics
It's supposed to be better than those tory and yank sports because you can play on any old field
So do that
If they massacre their quad because they twist their ankle on a tussock, it's fate
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>>155074256
>Netherlands with no World Cups in two attempts
The country with the most bids yet never got to host. Should bid a 3rd time to match the 3 finals that were lost/rigged against them.
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>>155075976
>England should have hosted 1930
Weren't a FIFA member. Only started entering WCs in the 50's.
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>>155076484
Does it matter? FIFA and most of its members have a strong aversion towards England for some reason and won't ever vote for an England bid. Huge waste of money anyway adding to the debt, always is preceded by articles shitting on the hosts, foreigners will come, ...
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>>155075976
This idea that each confed should have one after the other a turn at hosting is extremely retarded



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