Has anyone figured out why do traditional American sport fans actually hate on soccer? It's beyond not caring like Canadians who prefer hockey, they go out of their way to hate it and only on soccerThey don't hate on other foreign sports like cricket, tennis, rugby and the hundred other Olympic sports. It's specifically soccer that holds this sigma.
Soccer us for poor brown people to pretend they have something fun in their lives
Because soccer is just really gay compared to racket and bat sports like USA has Also, every sport involves feet via running, if you don't use your hands then you aren't an athlete. To be a sport all major body parts must be used.
>>155191257It's because Europeans themselves make a point of being annoying as fuck about it. I can't blame Yanks for getting annoyed at the constant seething and bitching about how "it's called football not soccer!!!" from whinging poms and other such Yuro specimens
Talking out of my ass, but a sincere guess: Americans are raised basically from birth to understand the world as revolving around them, if not basically not existing outside of themselves. Soccer being the world's sport, that they feel not a major part of, leads to seething as a form of peacocking to make them feel better about not being important in this particular environmentCanada and Aus don't exhibit the same neurosis about it, so that's my standing theory
>>155191257Americans are just loud and vocal. Trump is a reflection of the american people, they need others to know what they think.
Its fucking boring
>>155191257Yeah, because it's awful and shilled by people most Americans hate (mexicans, homosexuals, yuropoors, democrats, etc.
>>155191257I seriously doubt Americans hate soccer it just never picked up… if you seriously care maybe read the history of it… prob just lack of institution… kid sports of all kind devouring it instead. Only girlies play soccer bcuz title 9… they can’t play football or whatever
i don’t hate it but i hate american soccer fans
>>155191257Because soccer in the US isn't taken seriously and mostly just seen as something that you let little kids do so they can get out of the house.
Like dana white said soccer is the most unskilled sport because a 3 year old can play it. No one american wants to watch that slop when we have 7 footers playing basketball or giganiggers weighing 350 playing football
Soccer is inherently un-American because it was invented by Brits and played by Mexicans.
>>155191257They've tried to push soccer here really hard for decades and people just never bought in. Eventually it got annoying that they kept pushing. Plus faggot hipsters and lefties claimed the sport in America. A lot of people don't want to be associated with that gay shit.
>>155191418crazy that the sport with the most lower leg injury incidents is pushed on kids. its rediculus. something like 50%(soccer) incident rate campared to the next highest at 15%(football)
>>155191257It's funny that some of the Americans in the thread are doing exactly what you said without even realising it. To answer your question I think it is cope for the fact that they were never that good at it. If USA plays well this tournament they will switch from "don't care" (secretly seething) to "don't care" (unironically)
Again with the foreign confusion and misunderstanding. A majority of Americans don't hate soccer, they simply don't pay attention to it. Soccer is as relevant a sport to them as baseball is to a random person in Poland. It's simply a novel but generally uninteresting alternative sport. The ones you are describing are a vocal minority for who soccer hate is simply a part of a very performative and annoying "MURRICA FUCK YEAH" act.I myself have been a lifelong soccer fan, and what I can tell you is that people here would rather watch anything else at a bar than tune in to watch a live match of team USA playing.
>>155191350Average Canadian derangement… truly the most slavish whites ever. Even their hatred of the US and the inferiority complex they steal from us… stealing prestigious libs Democratic Party politics
if soccer would have teams of giant mutant nignogs they would love it
>>155191492Please learn to spell before embarassing our country on here.
>>155191539Let’s look at the Swiss team…
They just know that we love it and therefore it's funny for them to shit on it. I'd do the same thing in their situation.
>>155191257Because the level of flopping is an outright insult
>>155191528Mayb think this through…? Do we have racially inferior humans… say Asians who can’t compete physically? No? Money? Does soccer need that much money? So what else? Lack of institution? Why is that? How else to explain it besides lack of care for the sports and putting kids in other sports more culturally natural?
>>155191529The rare honest and informative burger
>>155191529>very performative and annoying "MURRICA FUCK YEAH" act.This, I hate how so many Americans play up to the dumb loud stereotype of us because it's somehow seen as being patriotic.
>>155191257>cricket, rugbyno one in america plays these>tennisit's pretty popular in America, but mostly among rich people.>hundred other Olympic sports.unless they briefly played it in high school they aren't interested.
>>155191533Case in point with the neurosis comment
>It's beyond not caring like Canadians who prefer hockey, they go out of their way to hate it and only on soccerPeople here definitely go out of their way to hate on soccer
>Hateyou're giving them too much credit with this word. They would have to pay attention to soccer in the first place for them to hate it. There are some people who dismiss soccer as a sport for weaklings, foreigners and fags, which may explain that stigma but most people don't hate the sport. They just don't watch it at all.
>>155191491You now realize they were pushing soccer as astroturf for the immigrants
>>155191350seconded
>>155191528We genuinely don't care. Even if we won people would continue not caring.
>>155191577 they have to be gigantic at least 6'7"
>>155191295uh huh. yeah. interesting. anything more?
>>155191332>I can't blame Yanks for getting annoyed at the constant seething and bitching about how "it's called football not soccer!!!" from whinging poms and other such Yuro specimensIt's also more annoying when they bitch about us and only us calling it soccer when there are other countries that call it soccer or even something else entirely
>>155191257I can answer for why Australian's hate the sport of Fags.. picrel
>>155191679Exactly.
>>155191350This seems fairly accurate. And like clockwork, a seething American already appeared to project.
>>155191733Based. Fuck soccer.
AFL is better. picrel
>>155191764Conspiratorial brain is third world coded. No Americans aren’t bad at soccer because the world is better at soccer and we are mad at it for centuries and decades. It’s just lack of talent from lack institution
AFL is better..
>>155191606But they don't do the same to tennis or cricket or any other British sport. Soccer specifically threatens their worldview. It's the only sport they'll call communist, anti American.. Etc
AFL is better....
Why are you all this thirsty for American interest in divegrass? You already have the world's attention yet American disregard for your sport seems to send you all into a emotional tailspin. Soccer isn't an interesting sport, stop taking it so personally that Americans don't care about it.You need to develop some emotional toughness desu.
Yeah I really don’t know why it’s no gayer than any other professional sport which we all live vicariously through. I follow soccer because that’s what I played my whole life. I have no interest in watching other men play a sport that I never excelled at so I don’t watch NFL or NBA. Can’t relate. Don’t buy the marketing. I’m a far right ethno nationalist.
AFL is better............
>>155191901Canadians think kids aren’t in mass kicking balls around seriously because some Americans online link this conspiracy to it being communist. It’s just posthoc in the rationalization… be honest and hate America more honestly Europeans hating us for kneecapping them since fdr is at least valid
>>155191257Soccer is the most popular sport in the rest of the world, that are not the USA. So the USA, in their arrogant superiority complex, created some other retarded sports and started to pretend that any of them are better than Soccer. The USA is pathetic.
AFL...
>>155191901>stop taking it so personally that Americans don't care about it.>You need to develop some emotional toughness desuThese. It's a mystery just how angry and bitter eurohomos and sudaca browns are about one country not caring for their shit sport.
>>155191257Seething that it's slowly becoming popular
>>155191257from what i've been seeing on this board, the "soccer" fanbase in USA is a bunch of basedboys
>>155192085i hate this filter for onions
>>155192085I’m a blue state urban American and we didn’t have much of other sports besides basketball for the blacks. Isn’t it the case soccer is white and middle class/upper coded? Could be another reason for why it’s less popular… only richer kids play it
>>155192085Also this. A large percentage of people who care about soccer here tend to be obnoxious urbanites who think that liking soccer is something that makes them more cosmopolitan, so it doesn't really help the public image of soccer as being a sport for the effeminate.
>>155191841The famous American reading comprehension as well, I see.
>>155191350if you live in europe you are bombarded with news, shows, movies, music, and other things from america. everyone there has an opinion about our politics and culture. it's completely one sided. with that being said there's tons cool euros who don't give a flying fuck about orange man or guns or whatever, but the vast majority are sucked into our orbit (insert fat joke here)shout outs finland and scotland you guys are homies
>>155192085>>155192110Holy nu-fag
>>155191257The USA is a
>>155191257>Has anyone figured out why do traditional American sport fans actually hate on soccer?The monkey ladder experiment
>>155192226The Canadian proposes his asinine conspiracy to which you are replying to. Quiet down kraut…
>>155192174It has the reputation of being a kid's game. Few of our athletes will stick with it as their main sport. They usually end up going into football, basketball, or baseball. We have so many other popular sports soccer was overshadowed by.
>>155191257Euro Games are on too early to start drinking and traditional bookies are only awake if they have a bad coke habit
>don't care about a thing that barely shows>go on with your life>don't care about a thing but it's constantly getting shoved down your throat>hate itit's not that hard, that's why popular things are hated
>>155191257Because there is Football and the gay shit other countries play.
>>155191257Goes back to the great depression era issues with FIFA and a general isolationist attitude. 2nd ans 3rd Generation Mexicans all become Handegg and Baseball fans as well. I dunno why do you guys hyper focus on just Hockey?
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>>155191257Cause it’s baseball season. I did watch the US v Paraguay match yesterday though and enjoyed myself. Shan’t be watching your sport when the tourney ends thougheverbeit.
>>155191733Real talk though I could imagine the chafing being a fucking nightmare like bleeding from ass bad. Also having a gigantic fan blown on your sweaty ass sounds pretty nice. Don't even try we all know why we stand infront of low fans.
>>155192310Good point there’s no perceived prestige… you elite athlete nfl nba mlb hyper prestigious… I don’t even know what the American thing for soccer is. Do they make a lot of money? Genuinely idk
>>155192461I mean what is there to watch?I ain't staying up for Premier League and the American Tier 1 Leagues aren't even close.
>>155191350this plus soccer was viewed here for most of is history as socialistic gommunism (because of draws)
>>155192301You literally don't understand what he's saying, kek. Ask an AI to explain it to you like you're an American.
>>155191257They never won anything and have to play literal who's concacaf
>>155192496Pray you are the 1% and you get noticed by a Euro Scout who whisks you away to Europe to learn Soccer.Football, Basketball, Baseball, and Hockey all have scouts creeping around elementary and little league games searching for the next guy. We just don't have the infrastructure with American Soccer.
Typical Canadian hating on America it’s sad and has become our national identity among losers.
>>155191257>Has anyone figured out why do traditional American sport fans actually hate on soccer?Proposition value. It's key to how people come to view whatever is being shown to them. Ex-Hippies wanted to push soccer really hard in the 70's onward, not for the sport, but for the goal of being multicultural. Much like the religion of Buddhism, they ignorantly started blending in their gay ass hippy ways into the sport via concepts like "everyone wins" and refraining from physical roughness thus the average American came to view the sport as for sissies and women.That one King of the Hill episode with the soccer coach being a pansy is 100% spot on of the type people who were representing soccer for decades in the UShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZwYCWWYcNghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsLxEUkscNA
>>155191529>>155191655get the fuck out of my country u traders
>>155192553This belief that Americans care about soccer enough to in any sense, feel inferior about soccer and have this chud Izzat is conspiratorial yes. I do not deny the isolationist idea about america–I believe that it is about correct but nor is it very relevant. It just meant the sport didn’t spread like it would’ve in Europe and supports my theory more
>>155191257Real answer:Sports is the one field that Americans failed to establish a cultural hegemony in.Movies, music, even porn, in all these domains America has been absolutely dominating the global entertainment landscape for almost a century now. American movie/music stars automatically become global movie/music stars.But sports represent the one field of entertainment where Americans were unable to become the leading global force and that's precisely because "soccer" got in the way. That's why you see such a passionate resentment towards the sport, particularly among the neo-con thinking class in the US.Now to be clear, I don't think the average American thinks like this. He just watches American football/basketball/baseballl because the broadcast networks tell him to and he mostly just doesn't care about "soccer" simply because it's not promoted on ESPN (or wherever Americans watch their sports these days), because "soccer" is a much less profitable sport in terms of broadcast infrastructure and ad efficiency, so the networks don't have any reason whatsoever to replace their ad-heavy cash cow sports with "soccer".
>>155192685Nice AI response
>>155192701It’s fine except the resentment which didn’t matter much. Good insight about the media where the three big cable networks which dominated generations of Americans really didn’t have much soccer yeah
>>155192685France makes better films and porn
>>155191257It's just not really compatible with American culture. I couldn't really tell you why, but it just isn't.
>>155192078Jews love soccer, that's why they push it so hard in the US
>>155191257It's effeminate and boring
>>155192786this, blacked and blackedraw are the goat
>>155192834Is it its European, and even worse British identity?I assume that's a big part. Also Americans associate sports and athleticism with big blacks so seeing a sport where the GOAT is a 5'7 white guy probably doesnt translate. I assume most Americans see players Pulisic as uncool not like the blacks who rule the NFL and NBA.
>>155192685>the neo-con thinking classthis group is really more likely to enjoy soccer compared to the rest of the population because they are richer than the average Americanremove "thinking" and you have the Cold War-brainwashed boomers and reflexively hostile rednecks who legitimately hate the sport, want it to die out in this country, etc.
>>155192847Lmao mainstream American media is 100% contoled by Jews and hates soccer. Every US media sports outlet shits on soccer and promotes black majority sports to white Americans.Most Americans are circumsized never forget.
>>155191257Draws and dive grassing. Thats the only reason why I cant watch this gay sport. If there weren't so many draws and people pretending to be hurt I wouldn't feel so gay watching it.
It comes down to these 3 reasons:>Soccer is seen as a pussy sportMinority of people, mainly America fuck yeah types. >The most athletic kids play other sports American schools offer many different sports programs, and some kids might just like other sports, like Football, Baseball, and Basketball, better. Even Hockey to an extent. This lack of a real soccer pipeline causes our national team to always be subpar, which then causes a never ending feedback loop of kids not being interested in it. >There is nothing unique to American soccer that makes people want to take partEverything about American soccer feels like it’s ripped off of European teams. The chants, the culture, even the team names feel like a bad larp. No other sport names their teams like “Atlanta FC”. At least some teams like Chicago Fire follow typical American naming nomenclature. But everything about American soccer feels like it’s trying to fit in with Europe instead of being its own thing. This also attracts some of the worst hipster liberal faggots in the country, which also doesn’t help.
>>155192901You can't play the race card when the US hasn't given a shit about soccer for decades and during a time of a White majority for athletics. Keep seething, though.
I can tell you why.Every 4 years I check back in to see if any of the faggotry in this sport has been curtailed and every time I am disappointed. People are celebrating that diving yellow card being overturned and while that is a good step forward it's not nearly enough.It's not even the egregious diving, it's the general feminine culture that has permeated the entire sport at all levels across the world.It's not just the flopping at the slightest contact, it's not just the theatrics of rolling around like they've been shot, it's everything. Miss the net on a good opportunity? Throw up your hands to the sky and collapse on the ground or grab your face with both hands like you're about to cry. Score a goal? Run away from your teammates and do some gay little scripted dance. Questionable call? Run straight to the ref and swarm him like a pack of hysterical women.Your teammate didn't pass it to you when you were open? Throw a tantrum and roll your eyes and gesticulate at the ground like a fckn babby.All of these tendencies are very female and very brown coded. It's impossible to enjoy the sport at any level because ALL players do this from ALL countries. The old cope was that only the South Americans and Southern Euros acted like this, but I watched the first half of Canada vs Bosnia and every guy on the field was doing it. 12-15 dives in the first half alone and when I pointed this out to some guy watching it in the bar I was in he just straight up denied it. Like I didn't just see it happen 10 seconds ago.I could go on about the feminine tattoos, the homosexual haircuts, the earrings, the way they kiss and hug each other after the smallest shit. It's embarrasing. How can this garbage still be tolerated? At this point I'm only watching in hopes to see these people get career ending injuries.
>>155191492Yeah because we want kids full force tackling each other and giving each other CTE
>>155191257100 years ago seething Yuros conspired to kill the American Soccer League. This permanently crippled American soccer culture. At the time baseball was the dominant professional sport in America with football being primarily a college sport with a weak professional league. The NBA hadn't formed yet and the NHL was limited to the northeast for another 70 years. The ASL had a real chance of becoming a real major league.Yuros were mad that the ASL could pay higher wages and the USSF (then USFA) was mad that a professional league was more powerful than them. The two groups conspired with FIFA to kill the ASL without regard for what would happen to the sport in America. Generations of Americans would grow up knowing that soccer is a foreign run sport hostile to America
>>155193000Trips of fucking truth from a fucking leaf.
>>155192986>But everything about American soccer feels like it’s trying to fit in with Europe instead of being its own thing.it never has been its own thing, MLS 1.0 was just minor-league baseball in terms of branding and presentation
>155192901Arguably the most respected American athlete is Tom Brady, a white guy. Stupid Leaf doesn’t deserve a you.
>>155191257Soccer is getting more and more brown and african. It is like a totally different planet. It is a reminder that white people are disappearing. That's why we love the NHL. The only mainstream majority white sport that is not niche and will remain white until we are all gone.
>>155192994He’s right about the worrying trend, well it’s been a while, hopefully it breaks, of the naturalness to which Americans worship blacks. Many Jews conspiracy suck but this is a more solid one. Baseball guys, even the wrestlers in relevant states are cooler though true compare to skinny soccer guys
>>155193046Shaq is blaq thougheverTawm is an actual pedo and fag, Shaq is not, simple as
the NHL is even less popular than divegrass here and has lagged behind the other major American sports for decades lmao
>>155193024Even outside of MLS. Yesterday the American announcers were yelling the name of the guy who scored the goal like a European or South American announcer would (the long drawn out GOOOOAAALLLL with the players name) and it sounded fucking stupid and completely inorganic.
American Football is such a superior sport we don't really give a fuck about soccer. Americans invented an alternative that mogs the rest of the world, and the rest of the world hates America so much they will never like our invention. So we give a middle finger back and make fun of Soccer. Pretty simple.
>>155193118That’s Gary’s fault and the NHL making retarded choices like pushing southern expansion teams. Everyone tuned in to USA hockey and was pumped until the Drumpf shit.
>>155193014This is the most correct answer out of all of them.
>>155192994American sports have been dominated by blacks your entire life. Keep coping.Americans hate Europeans and worship large black men this isn't even a debate.
>>155193120because it's Fox which retardedly insists on striking a balance between American exceptionalist superiority and foreign sensibilities
>>155191350Every country thinks the world revolves around them you retard. It’s only euros and euroLARPers like you who pretend they don’t think that way. (But really do, hence why Eurofaggots are constantly seething that the US is not enough like Europe)
>>155193063How is it black peoples fault they have better genetics for sports and actually make babies better and faster than whites? Whites are outgrowing sports completely and turning towards things that actually use superior white IQ like esports and getting IT degrees.
>>155193124Its objectively and measurably a terrible sport to watch. It's not watchable for human which is why it will go extinct once America breaks apart into ethnic subcomponents. Its not even a healthy sport to play, you will exponentially healthier and fitter playing soccer or basketball or most other sports.
>>155193145>Everyone tuned in to USA hockeyno>pumped until the Drumpf shit>untiljudging by /sp/ people primarily watched to feel good about being white and Trump only enhanced this
>>155193014good and correct post
>>155193190Idk the Canuck is right here is this just a sec white prestige thing idk football is pretty bad imo
>>155193193https://nypost.com/2026/02/24/sports/usa-mens-hockeys-olympics-win-over-canada-draws-monster-nbc-viewership/It’s not Super Bowl numbers for sure but people watched, and this was at like 8 am on a Sunday
>>155193190>muh commercialssick of this cope. When there isn't commercials there is a high stakes drive happening that actually has meaning to the game.When we are getting a new beer or talking to our friends during a commercial break soccer fans are watching a fucking ball bounce around for 15 minutes with nothing fucking happening except a nigger pretending his ankle is broken.
>>155193014Damn i didn’t know about this. How did they kill it?
It's because soccer is seen as for kids and girls. You grow out of playing soccer and into playing a 'real sport'. It's like if every country but yours was obsessed with dodgeball or table tennis and waved their dicks around about how good they were at a kid's game.A lot of soccer is played in America, Americans love playing soccer. We just don't watch it because it doesn't have prestige. Every game of soccer played by a kid who will drop it for football when he hits puberty or by a high school or college women's team reduces the sport's prestige. People watch sports with prestige, and in America that means sports that's dominated by framemogging genetic freaks like basketball, a gladitorial bloodsport like american football or deeply baked into american cultural identity like baseball. People actually watch golf. It's because it has prestige.
>>155193301Look up the 1920s American Soccer League.
American football is just rugby and Baseball is rounders innit
what's with all the shitty English from anglophone flags ITTcombination of zoomerism and the jeetening?
>>155193148>Uh, I don't actually have any rebuttal to the indifference Americans have had towards to the sport for decades>Let me ramble about blacks and how I'm totally not seethingDon't you have a Vishnu statue to fish out of your lake, cuck?
>>155193301american soccer league pissed off fifa and the US football association so they funded a competing league to try to fuck the ASL over financially and it worked
ah yes, Trump traitor and man-hater mAnn Coulter
It’s not even a national issue like most retards here are suggesting. I can watch Venezuelans and Mexicans get drilled with 100MPH fastballs in MLB and shrug it off while trying not limp. I see Swedes and Finns take slap shots of the face in the NHL and stoically skate off the ice gushing blood. I see Brazilians and other swarthoids have their hands shatter and ligaments torn in MMA and they refuse to show any signs of pain to the point where the injuries aren’t even apparent until after the fight.It is purely and simple a cultural issue and no fan will even acknowledge the issue let alone lobby for change. It’s a disgusting sport that rewards the worst, most cowardly aspects of man’s nature and should be mocked relentlessly.
Seems to me that that euro-america shitposting goes up and down in cycles. A few years ago I thought it was mostly gone forever, but it's back.I do have to say this current cycle has some of the most boring and cringe takes of all time. Just low quality all around.
>>155191257Because commie europhiles adopted it as a low T non violent alternative to American football and tried to artificially force it on the rest of the nation along with the rest of their gay shit thus much of the population is naturally repulsed by it.
>>155193339Yes, but WHY is it seen as for kids and girls?
>>155193480Because the elite athletes don’t see a clear future or know how if they got good at it they can make money. As in literally people don’t know the soccer path. Other sports path very clear
>>155193480Because it’s weak, low T, and gay compared to football. With the rise of flag football it soon might not even be worthy of being played by children and girls.
>>155193519Chicken before the egg. If soccer was popular in the US people would’ve already found out to make money off it and formed a clear capitalistic path of advancement. It doesn’t make money because nobody watches that shit.
>>155193480Because kids and girls play it, duh. It's a self reinforcing cycle. All our coaches are dogshit because any coach worth a damn wants to coach a different sport, so there isn't a system to integrate higher level of play than 'defenders defend, attackers attack' 5th grader shit. Except for women, there are a lot of female ball knowers after generations of women and girl's soccer, enough to supply high school and college teams with decent coaches.
>>155193084this might be the most esl post in /sp/ history
>>155193339>>155193526What do Americans think of rugby then? Why do you guys not play it?
>>155193294Only one coping is you my pozzed friend.Enjoy your commercials, it's so exciting!
>>155193181>things that actually use superior white IQ like esportdecent b8, have a (You)
>>155192685Youre thinking too hard about it because you think about americans all day long. The “real” real answer is just what you said at the end. We dont think about it but youre wrong, it IS pushed by sports news outlets constantly, the same way the WNBA is.Here is the real answer: soccer is exactly like women’s sports to most americans. Why would I watch that when I can watch something better like football or baseball? Its just a waste of time
>>155191257By and large Americans don't really hate soccer, for the most part we just don't care.The people who performatively hate on soccer are doing so for partisan political signalling. Like almost everything else, rooting for team USA has been turned into a (albeit very light and low key) culture war, conservatives like to insult it to show how "based" they are.>>155191285>>155191391>>155191491Low IQ people who fell for culture war signalling and repeat it without question.
>>155193654Because American football is actually more violent and dangerous than rugby, being a high-impact collision sport, hence why they wear padding.
>>155191257So how bad is this world cup? It's weird but I don't have a slightest interest this time. Adding more teams was really bad move.
>>155193526>I base my favorite sports on how the men who play them look like!You should probably be a bit more careful throwing around gay accusations at others, m8....
>>155193000It's bad enough with the players themselves, but how soccer fans revere the players has always been off-putting. There's a deification I just don't see with American sports despite all the "haha worship nogs" memes. The big art museum downtown is doing a special exhibition on sports and the dedicated video room is nothing but footage following Zidane around in a match. It was as if someone out there had to think that Zidane just pacing and jogging around without doing all that much was art in-of itself. Basically, soccer feels like a sport more likely than others for a word like "majestic" thrown around to praise its athletes. Another takeaway from that exhibit was how much more interesting the works inspired by the other sports were. Despite such all the worship going on, soccer was still never much to arouse the poets, the painters, or the filmmakers.
>>155193660thats the super bowl anon. americans literally make a huge deal out of how funny the super owl commercials will be and casuals dont even tune in for the game. And I would still rather watch that shit than effeminate zesty fuckbois kick a ball around then dive to the ground for 45 mins and end the game in a tie.
>>155193654Generally don't think about it at all. If we do it's generally 'neat'. The reason we don't play it is again just infrastructure. Out of the 700 dads in a high school the best soccer coach of them played a bit in middle school, the best baseball coach was in the minor league, the best football coach was a starter in college and the best rugby coach knows the rules (mostly)
>>155193339>in America that means sports that's dominateWhy is it that so many zoomers can’t speak or type basic English?
>>155193643It’s from reading European history I happened to stumble across many years ago. They are more advanced in many domains and ruin my taste for classic American authors… Americans, the shit the Jews and skrool teaches is imbecile and made me resentful. So it’s not as if there are good American writers but they are obfuscated and you wouldn’t know about otherwise unless you stumble across the right people. Yeh I do understand their hatred and it’s quite correct imo… America sucks except a few bits like trump…bits of red state America some obscure conservatives I like
>>155191257We have American football clubs (especially college football) going back to the 1860s which are older than every single soccer club on the planet outside the United Kingdom. Unlike other countries that took hold, soccer never spread in America because we already had a developed sports culture before it could be imported. That made soccer largely irrelevant without a niche to fill.The main reason people would openly hate it is unlike the other sports you mentioned people do not try very hard to force us to like it and shit on us for not liking it. Which causes people to openly hate it more if it is forced
>>155193705So, rugby bad because it's lower T than burger footy? Hmmm>>155193725For me it was the mess of a build up. I didn't mind the expansion to 48 teams as much.
I don't care about the sport outside of the world cup and euros, but I do feel like there is an irrational hatred for it. I was born in America and I never played it as a kid. However, the explanation of "we don't care because it's for children" doesn't make sense to me.Just to cherrypick a few examples >>155191774>>155192375>>155192865>>155192067I never see such vehement expressions over things actually made for children. There's never any "FUCK POKEMON" or "Mickey Mouse is boring and only faggots like it", but people will turn up in threads specifically dedicated to the world cup and talk about how lame it is. I have no issue with people doing that, by the way. That's just the kind of thing the OP is referring to.
>>155193698>culture war signalingGood goy embrace the immigrants and their soccer you dont need meat or football
>>155193815Hmm I think I will start to watch at the next stage. It's really annoying that this format will fuck up all the records that were achieved before
>>155193817We're on /sp/, it's full of dickwaving nationalist tards and people who treat sports fandom like a console war, it doesn't represent the average citizen of any country.
>>155191257It's really not hard to understand why it isn't very popular. The best teams are in Europe and play at awkward times (although Sunday morning Premier League is peak hangover recovery). Otherwise you have to listen to incoherent Latam babble as you watch a bunch of scrawny sudacas play on a dirt pitch in an ugly concrete stadium. And it looks like it is being filmed on a flip phone from 2004.Additionally, America has only had a FIFA sanctioned league for 30 years. Prior to MLS there was the NASL, which was pretty popular, thanks to Pele. But it folded in the mid-80s and everyone moved on as the NFL and the NBA gobbled up marketshare.Nowadays, Soccer is basically treated somewhere between an Olympic sport and Golf/Tennis. Most people only pay attention if at all during the giant quadrennial competitions, and when that's not happening there's a small but dedicated cadre of fans who follow the college and international games.Nobody hates soccer other than in a performative manner just to dickwag, which is ultimately what sport is all about. It just isn't really cemented in the cultural psyche the same way the other big four sports leagues are. That means nobody watches it, which means it doesn't make money, which means the best athletes focus elsewhere, which means nobody watches it. At the college level there's a pretty robust game, because schools have to allocate a certain number of scholarships to sports that aren't football and basketball, so there are plenty of talented highschoolers who pick soccer as their ticket to college.
>>155193817>I never see such vehement expressions over things actually made for children. There's never any "FUCK POKEMON"There actually was for quite a while in the 2000s, where you did get that shit thrown at you if you were an adult, but that died out after less than a decade.>>155193864Such a thing already happened from when it expanded from 16 to 24 and again from 24 to 32. Nothing new imo.
Both football and soccer are considered fall sports at the high school level, so you have to choose which one you playAlso the communist party supported it
>>155191257One big mistake non-Americans always make is comparing soccer to our pro sports. Our version of soccer culture is college football and men's basketball (and, depending on the state, high school too). The only real differences are that they're built around real sports instead of soccer, and that the attachment for most people is formed through our alma mater rather than the team being located in Shittingham-over-Thyme village for 300 years.Soccer itself is aesthetically unappealing to us. We just don't want to watch a bunch of twinks and midgets jogging and flopping around all game for a 0-0 final score. We already have hockey as the evolved, masculine form of soccer, so soccer itself is a women's and children's game here.
Kek, is this whole thread nothing more than lengthy, pseudo-intellectual takes and conspiracy theories by retarded europeans and some canadian bottom trying their hardest to delude themselves into thinking that Americans are actually interested in soccer?Why is our lack of interest in your sport such an unforgivable offense to you turdies? I honestly don't understand how you arabs and jeets successfully worked yourselves up into a mental crisis over something so inconsequential. No, your sport isn't threatened just because one country doesn't give a fuck about it. Stop seething please.
>>155193781then there's California with 1400 dads for 700 students and their only claims to fame are championships in competitive cock-sucking
>>155194082I give the Europeans a pass it’s mostly the Brits and Canadians and third worlders
>>155193811no one irl shits on Americans for not liking divegrass
>>155193794>So it’s not as if there are good American writers but they are obfuscated and you wouldn’t know about otherwise unless you stumble across the right peopleYeah? Ok smart guy, name some good American authors. Im sick of this European cock smoking, Euro authors are so fucking overrated and pretentious.
>>155193781You're hosting the rugby union World Cup in 2031. Would interest stick longer then? Especially since people have been looking for a safer alternative to concussionegg. Not that either rugby code is that much safer…
>no one watches soccer here>all of us watch hockey insteadplease stop repeating this, it's embarrassing
>>155194129It's their insecurity and validation seeking that amuses me. I can't imagine any American visiting foreign websites just to seethe at them for having no interest in some random American past time, yet subhuman foreigners will spend 18 hours a day malding on 4chan because we're not familiar with their ngubu and mahmoud flop sport.
>>155194179not that guy but he's going to say Tom Clancy and Ayn Rand
>>155194211no and CTE has only given rise to flag football, not rugbyin my experience rugby bros are annoying meatheads
>>155193000Funny how you write so much and it's actually the complete opposite of what you say. The absolute fucking opposite. A real man, in a real sport, is trying to do anything to get ahead. If they can get a free on going down, you bet they will. There was an old english saying that you should be willing to kill your grandmother to play, which is a terrible thing to say and not right at all, but the point is that this isn't a fucking kids knockabout like Americans seem to think it is, it's serious, fucking serious. There is definitely ethics involved, lines a player won't cross, for example an extremely dangerous tackle that could cost someone their career, or any similar criminal thing. Other than that, everything is up to the referee, it's the players' job to make the most of everything. Now I will agree in a very limited sense too much egregious diving is bad, that is the only thing. Women are much more likely to be drawn to the idea of should always follow the rules, you yourself are exhibiting these feminine qualities. So go watch your sports ball and do your fag sportsmanship thing, bring "morals" into it like it was some children's movie or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOhn6eO3Wds
>>155191257for just the actual game itself:>floppinglame and gay>endless passing, including backwards, instead of trying to scorelame and gay>tieslame and gay>no sudden death overtimelame and gay>penalty kicks (i.e. flip a coin for which way the goalie dives)lame and gay
>>155194179Just nonfiction: I like willmoore Kendall (since I mentioned obscure conservatives), Francis Parkman, hl Mencken, paglia, emerson there are many
>>155193752Its not just the super bowl the average NFL game has an 67 minutes of jew run commercials and 11 minutes of blacks wearing tights and shoulder pads playing temu rugby where a complex play has like 3 passes and the average play literally takes 6 seconds before more downtime for commercials lmaoKeep coping my circumsized cattleThis isn't even some evil white European slander, it's literally measured by your own most prestigeous newspaper Enjoy the commercials btw
>>155194230Meh I see frogs and krauts fighting it’s nothing special they insult with violence lol. I love trump and the good virtuous quiet Americans and other types but you have to understand communism and wokeism is a century long tradition, it is the prestigious tradition of america historically of the last hundred years
>>155194388Its clear why humanity in planet earth finds this boring to watch, the more interesting question is why mutts find this interesting?What exactly are Americans being excited by? The size of the blacks playing it?
>>155194366read 1950s and 1960s era NY times if you want proof Americans used to dominate non-fiction prose and language. The whole meme that Americans are bad writers is bullshit, we were just straight to the point and clear in word usage instead of using flowery bullshit to express things.
>>no scoring>lame and gay>>penalty scoring>lame and gaysounds about right
>>155193654Way back in the past, we did play rugby union, as did Canada, but it progressively evolved into gridiron football, just like how Aussie Rules became its own thing.
>>155194445im fine with both but i cant wrap my mind around euros being ok with 1-1 draws in their sports. Why cant they just play overtime every game or do penalties. Its completely deflating to see a draw, sports are exciting when theres winners and losers
please stop paying attention to the dementia-riddled 78-year-old ITT thanks
>>155194471because you just said penalties are lame and gaythere is either too much scoring in a game or not enough, it can't be an excuse to bitch about the level of scoring no matter what
>>155194428Both are good, I actually dislike Hemingway and such… Shakespeare who said brevity is the soul of wit… is obviously joking. I do prefer the Brits with their color and indirectness. Many Americans i mention and others I like are very colorful.
>>155194427YWNBEU (You will never be European)
>>155194388I will enjoy the football and switch to youtube when theres commercials LOLAnyways, I mean good for you soccer has no commercials I mean thats clearly better than American Football for sure. But thats the ONLY arguement you have, and its the only argument ever on this fucking board. Commercials commercials commercials. Yeah yeah whatever, but what about the GAME itself? American Football is just a better crafted game, its rules and setup make for more interesting and dramatic moments than any soccer game will ever have. It also emphasizes a team made out of niche skillsets and niche body types who excel at different positions on the field. In Soccer all I see are a bunch of skinny nignogs that are decent at kicking a ball around with some style and grace.
>>155194337a lot of boomer Canadians act the same way and yet it is over faster than NFL, NHL, baseball, basketball. All of those sports have loads of faggotry, play acting, needless stop and starts, etc. For me I think it just comes across to them as "different" and "foreign" so therefore an afront to all things that are normalized within existing North American Male identity. So nevermind some guy in tight pants taking a little ball between some other mans legs and falling together in a sweaty pile of heaving man flesh, but that guy in shorts running down the wing and swinging back a pass across field to a defender is OH MY GOD HOMO AS FUCK.
>>155194543Shut the fuck up jeet
Do other countries even want Americans involved as much as them in this sport? Probably not so it’s best Americans aren’t interested in soccer
>>155191257Because the whole world bitches about the US constantly, so instead of cucking out and agreeing with the outside world they reject that feeling and everything even remotely connected to it. Which is based. I wish my countrymen learned something from that.
>>155194559It's hilarious how inept they are at blending in
>>155194559truth hurts, eh?
>>155194332>A real man, in a real sport, is trying to do anything to get ahead.That's retarded. A real man has the confidence in himself to play by the rules and beat you through superior skill. "Win at all costs" is the domain of sniveling little bitches who need cheating, rules-lawyering and refball because they aren't good enough on their own.This is why flopping is universally hated here. It provokes an instant disgust response in us when we see grown men throwing their dignity away just to "win" a game. Soccer fans are the weird ones for not feeling that way.
>>155194491different anon, that was me>reading comprehensionI said intentionally not trying to score, but keep trying to impress the yuropeons lmaoand this isn't a fucking logic debate problem btw, penalty kicks being a diving coin flip simply looks retarded
>>155194525>Shakespeare who said brevity is the soul of wit is obviously jokingI mean if you are uneducated you think that I guess, because Shakespeare is extremely to the point in everything he did despite his prose and verse being seen as complex by today, especially compared to his contemporaries. Also if you don't get Hemmingway there is no hope for you. The context for which is style exists in is why it's so good. He basically gave a middle finger to Europe and it's horseshit. Even James Joyce was a friend and supporter of Hemmingway and they have polar opposite sides of modernist writing.
>>155194565It’s like NATO. Eurogays simultaneously want us gone but are butthurt if we’re not involved enough.
>>155194593only the ones who bathe properly. Fuck the smell is beyond awful I really do not get it.
>>155194598You're a jeet retard who's never played a sport in his life
>>155194637yes I am fat, chug curry, and have 50 sisters and brothers and only look good in orange. You got me there, bro.
>>155194543Your cricket games drag on for literal DAYS, Rajesh, and in the end everyone on the field still loses because they're still pakis and jeets. Talk about a colossal waste of time. Who are you fooling?
people generally hate on sports they don't watch and/or haven't made any effort to grasp the nuance of, because they already have sports they like and don't want to feel like they're missing out on something they may like better.>american footballhurrdurr 13 minutes of action wrapped in a 3 hour commercial>soccerhurrdurr divegrass, hurrdurr no goals>basketballhurrdurr *whistle* foulsport>hockeyhurrdurr I CANT SEE THE PUCK>golfhurrdurr walkabout>tennisok everyone secretly agrees this is good>baseballhurrdurr fatties standing around>crickethurrdurr royal jeetsport>aussie rules footballno one actually knows what's going on on that island and it's best not to ask>nascarhurrdurr turnleft>any sport women playhurrdurr dogshit (unless i can goon to it)>track and fieldhurrdurr roidsports>cyclinghurrdurr dopesport
>>155194610>intentionally not trying to scoredoesn't happen and even if it does it happens at a much higher rate in muh real American sports
>>155194614Nah Hemingway sucks… as for the brevity thing look it up. It was clearly a joke as Polonius who said this does not have brevity. The writer Shakespeare through polonius is verbose…Why do you lie? Shakespeare is master of brevity… and of verbosity too obviously. Did you not read Shakespeare as a kid in skrool?
>>155194703T20 and ODI are often no longer then a NFL game and don't break for commercials every five seconds. But you know... I don't like cricket either... I LOVE IT!
>>155194772Hemmingway I find far too pretentious. Joyce is a shitposter.
Soccer fans in America are very left wing "progressive" types. The push gays, trans, and anti-White ideology. Antifa even cheers them on. A lot of people don't want to be associated with that.
>>155191257Basketball fans in general like soccer.Never seen a baseball fan like soccer. Same with hockey. American football is 50/50 some love it some hate it
>>155194772shakespeare has so much commentary on the times he was living in though its impossible to tell whats a jab at other playwrights through an actual piece of literary advice, and whats just meant to be taken as a simple joke. Polonius himself is supposed to be a parody of a real life figure.
The only thing more stupid than people trying to make Americans "like" futbol is Americans misunderstanding that the rest of the world even cares about whether Americans like futbol or not
>>155193698>are doing so for partisan political signalling.And that's a reaction of people promoting it for the sake of partisan politics.see:>>155192592>>155194900It's unfortunate, but true.
>>155194604You may not like it, but that is what peak performance is. Good luck with your honour system though.
>>155192986>But everything about American soccer feels like it’s trying to fit in with Europe instead of being its own thing.That's the worst part about the latest push for soccer. There's just no patience to let it develop as its own thing as all major sports did in the US. Also Real Salt Lake is an even more egregious larp, royal in the team name and in Spanish.
>>155191257But I literally don't care about it for the most part. What I hate is the holier than thou attitude of soccer fans that has persisted for the past 15 years so naturally I clap back. And Exhibit A is right here.
>>155195071Soccer, and by extension its fans, placing no value on honor, dignity, fairness, or sportsmanship is why it will always be third-world coded.
>>155195069right-wingers reacted to apolitical soccer back in the Cold War era because that's who they are, reactionariesthe prog faggotry you assume was always in soccer wasn't actually there until prog faggots figured out they could squeeze their virtue-signaling into a "new" sport when they were already shut out of the older sports
Politico said trump in 2018 forced fifa to have it hosted in america… this man involved in everything… Americans only talking about this silly ball game because of trump. Truly the superfluous man of our time
like 25 years later and people still have no idea why RSL is RSLand yes they should have changed it at least 10 years ago
>>155195262We got the world cup because of the 2015 FBI investigation into FIFA because they sold a world cup to Qatar too blatantly.
>>155193024>MLS 1.0 was just minor-league baseball in terms of branding and presentationAt least MiLB larp would be something uniquely American
>>155191285It will never stop being funny for a 50% mutt brownoid to cope about other brownoids (his own kind).
>>155195323>larp>unique
>>155193654Weirdly enough, there seems to be a lot of college women's rugby, but literally nothing else
>>155194332Perfect encapsulation of the soccer mindset and why any noble soul will find it inherently repellant. This is the mindset of grovelling brown slave willing to do anything to elevate himself to a position within the palace household. And you didn't address any of my factually points about the feminine attitudes and behaviours.Just seething like a bitch.
>>155195333Just because it’s true soccer is popular because of rise of browns in the us doesn’t mean we are generally saying only browns like soccer internationally, obviously not the case in Europe. But making fun of Americans for being ground zero of immigration is of poor taste since Americans have been hurt by it and only by more fortunate circumstances Europe isn’t overrun by immigrants to the same extent, not by the innate superiority of any choices you’ve made. No one votes for immigrants. We sink in the same boat btw…
>>155195262Trump is soccer pilled.A true European Aryan sport.
>>155191257they hate it because they are not good at it.
>>155195526Trump is still seething about the UFL and the New Jersey Generals kek
Trump doesn't like soccer, he's just filled with spite against the NFL
>>155191350>Talking out of my ass, but a sincere guess: Americans are raised basically from birth to understand the world as revolving around them, if not basically not existing outside of themselves. Soccer being the world's sport, that they feel not a major part of, leads to seethingbingo
>>155195493>But making fun of Americans for being ground zero of immigration is of poor tasteI'm making fun of the little US-ian who thinks they're a sacred haven of ivory white skin and European heritage. Like coping Martinez up there.You can't have your fellow countrymen make fun of other countries for being brown hurr durr and then take a moral high-ground on it when your own history is brought up. Gotta accept that people will make fun of that double standard.
>>155194604It completely changes the dynamic from a test of physical prowess, agility, and endurance to improv comedy theatre. You're correct about the disgust response.I don't care for NBA, NFL, or golf but I simply don't watch them. Soccer is unique in that it inspires a seething contempt that low T men will never understand. It's primal. It's a manifestation the ingrained hatred of weakness all men have had since stone age times because we know that if there are too many soccer players in the tribe then the tribe next door will be pushing our shit in very soon.
>>155191632Basketball has this too
>>155194604>refball>floppingIsn't that what's killing interest in NBA rn?
>>155195526Just call american football rugby. It's the same sport
>>155195563He only has three modes: greed, adulation, and revenge
Traditional American sport fans never went out of their way to hate cycling. They were one of the birthing nations of the sport. Yet took until Greg LeMond to win the TdF and a world's. Had a boom of sorts during the Armstrong years. His teammates ratting him out basically ended any interest. Still shows they can embrace a sport if an American dominates.
>>155195471>And you didn't address any of my factually points about the feminine attitudes and behaviours.Because I genuinely have no idea what the hell else you are talking about in the rest of that diarrhea. Real men don't communicate and show facial expressions now? I'm guessing the reason you said this is because you can't even see NFL players' reactions to things. Complaining to the ref is another thing some people get hung up on - complaining about shit you find unfair is a natural part of life and helps if done in the right way. Even the referee can benefit from a little feedback about his decisions rather than just hearing nothing the whole game. I find it hard to believe that Ameriball doesn't have players complaining about decisions.
>>155195948Ok now I know for sure you are an emotional, low test faggot (aka a woman).Look at the picture I posted in my original post and ask yourself why only soccer players act like this.
>>155195563He's right though.Football is played with the foot and a ball. Not hands. Only someone who hates Europeans and the English language would disagree.
>>155191257It's mostly for kids to run around aimlessly.The number one complaint from normgroids has always been ending in a tie and too few points.
>>155191350This is the truthAmericans want to be number one in everything that matters, so to cope with not being good at footy they say it doesnt matter
Record ratings yesterday, almost 16 million watched USA and Paraguay.I like watching the national teams duke it out but I can't into league shit.
A lot of Americans I talk to think it's literally a Mexican sport. They associate it with loud Mexicans screaming GOAAAAAAAAL.
The correct answer is it's just a historical thing. Soccer wasn't a true "Global Game" in terms of competative sport til the 1930s.By that time we had had 40 years of Ohio State and Michigan trying to kill each other and 10 years of Da Bears vs Da Pack. Soccer was boring by comparison to seeing a bunch of guys in armor beating the shit out of each other.
>>155194249Kek you gotta be joking right?
>>155196224this le funny because mexico is shit at SOCCER
>>155191257Inferiority complex.
>>155196357Whitman, Hemmingway, Twain, Poe, Fitzgerald, Melville, Chris Chan.>>155196357
>>155196389Ngl the impression in america is that they are pretty good at it but maybe Americans assume because it’s the same, where they are good at it like the Brazilians who are for sure good at it I think. Isn’t Mexico good for cardio
>>155191257It's the Euros fault really for being omega obnoxious about soccer
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=78EW1boySW8all I see is a bunch of guys huddling together.
Americans need to embrace soccer (football) and let go of American football (American rugby), because it’s just people smashing into each other trying to slosh the other guys brain around until he becomes retarded.
>>155196518I will now sniff your euro sport
Why do yuros get so fucking mad when we have our own sporting culture involving entirely different sports than them? The truth is, soccer slurping countries are casuals about sports compared to us. They mainly like 1 sport and its the most popular mainstream sport that's easy to get into and understand.
>>155192110it's been like 10 years newfag>Amazonian chiming in on soccerchecks out
>>155196546I know that the ball kinda looks round in that picture, but it’s actually a rugby ball and they are playing beach rugby.
If you have athletic skill in the US, you are pushed towards basketball, football or baseball. If you don't have the skill to compete at a decent level in those sports, you then go play soccer, tennis or golf. Those last three mentioned are largely played by white kids whose parents have a little bit to a lot of money. It's just not respected as much as the Big 3.
>>155196654it's largely about having money for the equipment, but rich people will shell out for big guys for all the equipment they need to destroy their bodies in football.
>>155191257Soccer was seen as several things for decades. 1: A FOREIGN sport. Not OUR sport. Our sport was and is American Football. 2. Soccer was billed as a no contact alternative to football which gave it a reputation as a sport for wimps. There are versions of soccer that are utterly brutal but that's not what was played in most recreational leagues. Both soccer and American Football did soften their rules some time back due to high rates of injury. 3. Soccer is a rich man's game in the USA which greatly limits its talent pool.
>>155196654>athletic skill in the usheight ? and pace ?
>>155196813>Soccer is a rich man's game in the USLolwut. You just need a ball and some rocks to use as a goal
>>155196813>3. Soccer is a rich man's game in the USA which greatly limits its talent pool.considering how many Latin American countries play it I find it hard to believe. Aside from the cleats, shinguards, and a field you don't need anything else. If there is too much urban development you have a problem playing soccer.
>>155197034It is for upper middle class organized sports moms with cashflow longing for Europeanesque status in a protective, controlled, manicured environment.
>>155191257because it's full of faggot diving and ties, both are anathema to our sports culturesoccer is literally just bad poorfag hockey
>>155191901They're desperate for revenge on us and have TDS, their window to get even was the olympics but they lost
>>155191257The flopping and diving.
>>155196654You forgot hockey. Most upper middle class kids in cold climates play hockey
>>155197034soccer is super expensive if your kid is good. the "good teams" you have to pay crazy fees to even get your kid on the team. add in all the travel and stuff too, very expensive.when i was a kid (early 2000s) a couple of kids on my team were good enough to join the fancy teams, we called them select teams back then idk if they still do that, and it was like thousands of dollars to sign up to get on the team, i'm sure it's way worse now
>>155197391apparently thirdies and euros subside soccer players and they all play in leagues and basically give up on schooling entirelyso basically the thirdies are all going to be poor anyway so they can all-in, and the euros can afford to subsidize their soccer academies because of how much money their teams pull ina better comparison for sport is the olympics
>>155191257because it seems foreign, and the simple mind is averse to the unfamiliar
>>155193454trvke
>>155197391it's just as bad, but now at least our professional teams are running academies to combat this a bit. Still not at the necessary scale
>>155191369Despite Trump looking like he is the stereotypical looking soccer hater, he ironically is the oppsoite. He played the sport back whe he was kid which is crazy because it was insanely unpopular then.
>>155193519it's the same path. wtf are you talking about
>>155197489yeah youth soccer is not set up at all like academies in the rest of the world. landon donovan was just talking about it last week, how in youth soccer here coaches care more about winning and not actually developing talents, and how expensive youth soccer is is a huge barrier to entry for a lot of peopleanyway i was just replying to that original anon who said soccer is cheap cause it's not (in america)
>>155197116USA pushes it's young athletes to American Football or Basketball. I haven't played soccer in decades but when I was the league order usually started with local recreation, traveling recreational, junior varsity, varsity, professional. If you weren't wealthy enough to make the jump to traveling recreational league your soccer experience ended before sixth grade. Alternatively, you could always find a pickup game of basketball or American Football. The equipment for soccer is relatively cheap. The USA soccer culture is upper middle class or higher.
>>155197732foreigners dont understand sports hierarchy is inverted in america, soccer is a middle class sport (not upper class though, they play polo) and lower middle class when they're childrenmost importantly soccer is a shit tier sport for an american athlete, all the other sports pay much better and give much more prestige.
Ameribros, just try futsal aka the superior soccer.
>>155197816Maybe 25 years ago. Every sport now requires shelling out thousands to play on travel teams and nobody plays more than one.
>>155197816>all the other sports pay much betterempirically, verifiably false
if you're a true red white and blue american black kid or white kid who is supremely talented athletically, and you picked soccer as your A1 sport, people would wonder what the fuck is wrong with you and the blacks and lower class whites would be made fun of relentlessly.>ayo jamal yous got soccer practice today you bitch ass nigga?
>>155197945this is literally what happened to two of the defenders on our team right now.
>>155197882delusional lmao, did you even see the deals NBA players are putting out?top paid soccer players are around 27m (plus yuro taxes)ohtani is making what, 65m?
>>155198028>conveniently ignores sponsorship, which is the majority of income for the top earners>only looks at the very top tier, conveniently ignores the full spectrum/average salaries >ignores hockey>ignores footballabsolute retard, sorry baby
>>155198028https://www.forbes.com/lists/athletes/
>>155198195>conveniently ignores sponsorshipDo you think American athletes don't have sponsors or something? LeBron got a lifetime shoe deal before Messi or Ronaldo did.Even college athletes get sponsorship money now in America. Some literal who kid at a soccer academy in East Fuckistan isn't getting millions in NIL.
>>155198911Cooper Flagg (a white basketball player from Maine) got a $13 million dollar shoe deal before he even stepped on the court at Duke.
>>155191257- The offside rule limits scoring attempts for no reason- Field is too large - lots of "nothing action"- Diving is cancer- Players don't shoot enoughBut to be fair, all sports come from a time before Internet. If you had 2 hours to either stare at the wall or watch (bet on) the Orioles, then the Orioles were primetime entertainment. But nobody ITT has season tickets to the Orioles, and baseball is the American pasttime.
>>155198911no, and I didn't suggest that. And college age is after academy age, doofus. just admit that you were wrong and move along
>>155195526To be fair, Australia and New Zealand already did the same thing. "Football Australia" lmao
>>155196092Wrong pic?
>>155191257Idk but it makes sudacas and europeans really angry for some reason so it's based.
>>155197945>and the blacks and lower class whites would be made fun of relentlessly.>>ayo jamal yous got soccer practice today you bitch ass nigga?American race relations can be complicated but soccer being certified gay is something us and the black man will ALWAYS agree upon.
>>155191257Most of the time it’s boring besides for the World Cup
>>155200254>Idk but it makes sudacas and europeans really angry for some reason so it's based.You know, me may have beef sometimes, but at least you beaners understand us.
>>155197845We already have indoor soccer which is better than both futsal and regular soccer
>>155193584Correct answer. If America's largest industries decided to push soccer like every other sport, soccer would be popular. We all just do what is shoved in our face, 80% of the time.If there was a Monday Night Soccer. If there was an MLS Super Bowl. If there was an MLS draft combine. More people would play soccer.
>>155198300thx.>>155198028lmao $2m on field earnings, so the whole thing is based on image, what a scam. So his correct profession is social media influencer, because that's how he makes the bulk of his money. The reason why Americans think of NFL and NBA as more lucrative is because they get btfo when they try playing soccer professionally, for them personally it is more lucrative but only because there is nothing worldwide to compare it to. It's a closed system, if Americans only knew.
What's the point of a international competition when national teams are put together with a random lottery system?
>>155191257that stadium is insane
>>155200812no, Ohtani's contract is 10 years, $700 million
>>155200730>Shohei Ohtani’s historic 10-year, $700 million contract with the Los Angeles Dodgers is heavily deferred, with $680 million (97%) delayed until after his playing career ends. The structure allows Ohtani to collect a $2 million annual salary from 2024 to 2033, followed by $68 million annually from 2034 to 2043It's structured oddly to get around the salary cap in baseball. His on field earnings will be $700 million for 10 years of on field performance. Essentially $70 million a year avg.
>>155200869What do you mean? It's just a normal stadium.
>>155200812>>155201157
>>155193698>Its low iq to think a sport is boringIts fucking boring faggot
>>155200392Horrible takeSoccer is the world's most popular sport, and it still has perennial white guy stars, and black guy stars who don't promote an antisocial lifestyle of gun crime and drug trafficking.But if you're mentally 10 years old then you would think "certified gay" fits.
>>155200812Ohtani probably isn't the best example since he chose to defer nearly all of his money. Juan Soto's averaging $51 million a year on the Mets and he doesn't have the international star power of Ohtani.
>>155201172Brother have you actually been to SoFi Stadium? It's the best stadium in this country inside. An engineering marvel
>>155201396If a genie came down and told me he'd allow me to be the top 10% in any sport at any position, I'd pick MLB starting pitcher 10/10 times. Only have to play like 35 games a year and only have to get your team through the 6th inning each outing while cashing out about $30-$40 million a year. Cake.
>>155200812get back to delivering uber eats joao>>155198300>lists otani as 1XXM>contract alone is 700Minsane cope
>>155191350>Americans are raised basically from birth to understand the world as revolving around themYou are proof that it does
American sports are so big that even the biggest soccer team in the world put a basketball player on it.And they put him LITERALLY above their own team logo and stars
"We suck?? I thought america was the best at everything?? Oh well.... eh.... we dont care anyway! its stupid and stinky!! haha!!"
>>155202138>gets btfo with simple facts>instead of responding with an obvious and defensible critique, blatantly misunderstands the data and says something stupid>tells other people they're copingplainly, other sports don't give athletes "much more" earning power than soccer players. You can get absurdly wealthy at the top end of any of them. There's no financial disincentive to playing the sport and you need to revise your premise because it was retarded
>>155202203We drive Mercedes and Hyundai dumbass. It's called "a global economy." If fucking Bass Pro Shop outbid Jordan, they would have trout or whatever the fuck on their crest.
>>155202436It would obviously be a bass you dumb son of a bitch.
>>155191469aztecs played Ulamaliztl which is proto uncucked soccer
>>155202100This. It's a social program, except for one person instead of a bunch of people. Not to get blatantly political. But it amazes me that nobody is writing their senator about this shit.>Should we pay more money to the workers at Nabisco, Ashley Furniture, Lowe's, and Carmax?>NO GIVE IT ALL TO OHTANIAmericans are fucking stupid.
>>155202681How are athletes being overpaid a social program? What? Does it work like welfare or something at like a trillion?
>>155202323our top end is WAY bigger than the rest of the world sanchez
>>155195526rugby or freedomball are suggestions
>>155196518they should instead call american rugby moronball
>>155203249that has been disproven to you objectively already ITT. that's plainly false.
>>155191632so nobody in america watches the nba?
>scroll up>a sea of USA flags>no doubt all seething about how they dont care about soccer anyway (because they suck at it)
>>155203703no it hasn'tstill waiting for your soccer player that has made more than ohtani or top nba playersalso mahomes has a 500m contractthe reality is soccer get syou a trilllion thirdie followers but no moolah
>>155203776I haven’t thought about “soccer” in in years until DJT mentioned we were hosting fifa. I last thought about because I was dragged to watch some shitty university “soccer” and before that some fifa game.
>>155203943ronaldo and messi, as has already been shown to you
>>155204019>messi1.1B>jordan4.3Byou losereminder that the most holy jersey in soccer has a jordan cuckstamp lmao (kek brazil)
>>155204172you think that paying someone to provide their equipment is "cucking" them?
>>155191257the people screaming about soccer taking over in 2 weeks for the past 30 years haven't helped their cause, anyone who lives here (USA/CAN) knows that it is almost exclusively a recreational sport that virtually nobody seriously plays past 8-10 years old and if you do (girls) it's because it can be a viable path to an easy scholarship if you're even remotely decentbaseball/basketball are considerably more popular at both the spectator and participation level (even here) and it isn't really close and not likely to change any time soon
>>155204228what's orlando like this time of year joao?do you get used to the cockroaches?
>>155204172>switches from ohtani and top NBA players to a guy who retired 25 years ago>bro, you can only make $1B in that sport. Why bother?
>>155204437>tries to cherrypick the top player in soccer>gets countered>seethesi accept your surrender
>>155203776It's actually a good discussion on the role of soccer in America, Muhhamed.
>>155204292i have no clue what this means, but i'm guessing it's a desperate attempt to meme some more nonsense. if you're going to be dumb, you should at least try to be funny
>>155204563>talking about the top players today>why are you cherrypicking the top player?>also, the other guy who you picked just dun count
>>155204437>implying messinaldo aren't also retiredstill waiting to see any equivalent of the NBA cuckstamp tooAmerican Athletes are simply more Prestigious than thirdies>>155204592you're clearly a latinx, since you went to defend huezil i assumed huezilian but i forgot even mexicans go into pan-latinx cope mode when they think it's gringos vs LATAM. What country are you from?
>>155191257Inferiority complex
>>155204699i didn't defend anyone, I pointed out that all of the national teams have a product logo and that the manufacturers pay for that right. BTW, same goes for american sports. I'm not sure how this has eluded you for so long
>>155202494kek
>>155200254This. Why are Europeans in a mind broken rage about it anyway? Aren't you guys happier that Americans don't play soccer anyway?These threads provide a good opportunity to study the mental illness that is the rest of the world's obsession with the US.
>>155204230So Canadians do know this and chose to troll and lie instead until now
it's just not very fun to watch it isn't so complicated
>>155193794Who are the American authors you like?
>>155191350to be fair, the world does revolve around them (USA and everything that comes with their military might, not individual americans) since ww2 in many aspects.
>>155203722Basketball is getting there, but still nowhere near soccer's level
>>155191257American's entire personality is of being antagonistic and hostile to the world, especially Europe. But not Israel, because they're the greatest ally.
>>155196518is that an advertisement for cocaine
>>155204921how many of those logos are a literal american athlete?
>>155191392not popular with homosexuals at all (is any sport?)
>>155218943baseball
The concept that something important can happen in the world that doesn't involve Americans is inherently threatening to their ego structure.
>>155222559please love us
>>155191350Sound theory
>Thread full of furiously seething 3rd worlders using american tech to delusionally comment on an american website about how americans care about their sport.This is some top shelf, special reserve irony kek.
why is it such a big deal we make soccer a major sport here anyway? There’s a big enough following here regardless but as a country soccer just isn’t our culture, like hockey in the south.
>>155191350This is true, but i bet they would care a lot more about football if they had a top tier NT and a great national league. Your argument explains why Mexico loves football and USA not. They both have a huge population and both of them have been always been quite shit for their size. But Mexico has a major football fanbase and USA not.Speaking lf the US case, being in CONCACAF derails their capability of growing. If they somehow got their teams to play for libertadores or even UEFA competitions that would boost the sport there massively.Another thing that derails them is that the competitions format from the rest of the world is way different from the sports franchises in America. Having league tiers and a youth setup sound alien to american hears, the same for europeans or south americans about american sports sistems.Tl;dr - if they were good in the sport, they would care way more
>>155191257because it's gay.
Its a sport for poors.
They hate it because they get exposed as being irrelevant.
>>155191257actually I hate on cricket because it's jeet coded.
>>155227506>Tl;dr - if they were good in the sport, they would care way moreEh I think it's chicken or the egg. People here don't care about the Olympics or women's soccer
>>155227841But no one cares about womens soccer and the olympics, outside cold war politics, are a second tier event (despite i really enjoy the olympics).Being the best in football means being the best nation in the most popular sport in the world, the american public and your media would love to be the center of the world, what better then than being the center of the most popular sport?
>>155228379You think most people here have any clue about the adoration or lack of adoration abroad for our national team? The sport just isn't as popular in our culture. You're trying too hard to force some dumbass narrative
Euros and South Americans really do be writing whole ass essays. it’s not popular here, and that’s all there is to it. Some Americans watch it and there is a following here but it’s just not popular. Now let it go ffs
>>155191257We don't hate soccer most people here just don't care or really think about it, its just a boring sport which we don't really get why the rest of the world is so obsessed with and we already have our own popular sports we find more entertaining.
>>155191332pretty much this sums it up. less to do with the sport and more to do with obnoxious euros getting triggered by the word soccer while hyperventilating over the 'world game'
>Oi bruv, why you lot always takin' the piss outta football, eh?
>>155230437bruv, punching down makes you look pathetic. let them have their fun
USA sucks.
>>155191257We've been over this, we simply don't care
>>155191418This is the missing piece. Every white kid, male and female, who's not that athletic plays soccer from elementary through middle school
>>155191332>whinging poms and other such Yuro specimensWe are not Yuropean, we are EnglishThere is no other world but England
>>155192685If Football was just as popular as say NFL, then that league would earn a similar amount of revenue. The extra ad earnings would simply be earned through a different mechanism. Say, commercial agreements.The likely answer is this: The majority simply aren't interested in Football, but there are enough fans now to make it a solid top 5-6 sport.
>>155225640This is a losing comparison against us and western europe, but compared to others it has merit.
>>155193829That's the kind of culture war signalling he means. Good example.
>>155191257What a kino stadium
>>155191491>Plus faggot hipsters and lefties claimed the sport in AmericaSame thing happened in Australia, probably influenced by seeing that happen in the US kek. They say everyone needs to follow it because it's the "world game"
>>155246278Newfag. Its jewish personified. They've literally got 5+ tiers of corporate hospitality seats lmao In proper football grounds, traditionally there would be none
>>155191350Sucks to suck, leaf
Binary mindsAmericans are taught to see things as good or bad, republican or liberal, racist or open minded. Soccer to the fox news boomer is a liberal pansy activity. They prefer the massive gorilla looking nfl men. They have been conditioned to enjoy commercialism. If there are no commercials they become bored.
>>155191533You proved Canada's point, you even see the Canadian Libs through the lens of Yank politics.
>>155191257it was really pushed (by the powers that be) in the 70's like the metric system.and it caused a big backlash.young people seem to really like it tho.
Something else not mentioned, but in America bigger is better and smaller is gay. It’s taught to us so much since birth that everyone believes this, even the most progressive women Example, big truck or suv is better than a sedan, and way more masculine than a bicycle. Ignore the fact that every single facet of bike commuting is at its core more masculine than driving a F-150. Similarly with people, bigger is better and culturally big overweight you get a pass especially if taller When it comes to our athletes we want them super human. They must be tall and massive, unable to fit through a door frame. They must be built to win their sport as well as any physical conflict. Top baseball, basketball, and football stars typically check these boxes. The top of the high school food chain so to speakA soccer player could never achieve this. Still honestly laugh at a guy like Messi when I see a Lowe’s commercial. The dude looks like a random guy showed up to move your furniture , and he’d get his ass kicked 1 on 1 by the average person at any fly over state American bar. Soccer because of those things will never be aspirational to us
>>155191350The world does revolve around us, and not even by our doing particularly. This is (yet another) thread created by non-Americans to seethe about Americans. This is all on you guys.
>>155246934Leaf here but I'm an American supremacist. Everything you said is true.
>>155191257I don’t think Americans hate on soccer outside of mocking it for its faggoty european sensibilities and the pretentious that Europeans bring to it. First of all most Americans play soccer as a kid. It’s very ingrained and has been for generations. So we are all familiar with it. Most people don’t care about high level play because it’s very far away and we have our own sports. Some people like it but it’s also largely a cultural signifier, like “these types of people” (hipsters etc) like soccer. But I think most people are just indifferent but even they would be fine going to a soccer game once in a while, it’s a fun way to spend an evening and the new breed of soccer stadium,s opening up are really nice.
>>155191257The players are all diving drama queens
True. Euro poors probably can’t comprehend this. But whenever a player flops in soccer, which happens several times every game and is ubiquitous to the sport, it causes the American sports fans skin to crawl. Everything about American sporting culture, highlighted by the popularity of football, is about Toughing it up , taking the hit, don’t complain, keep going, etcWhenever I watch soccer and see the immediate flops I remember it’s a queer sport, I remember that I could physically beat the ass of most of the pros playing it, laugh, and turn the channel
>>155248611The only things I'll say in regard to this is. When you stub your toe on something it hurts? That's how it feels when you catch a stud on the ankle. For some reason player stopped wearing proper shinpads. Also, particularly among south americans, cheating is part of the game. Hence why they scream, jump on the floor, roll multiple times, in an attempt to fool the referee
>>155195245They don't have a response to this, interesting.
>>155191715kek, underrated.
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>>155191350This makes me feel good, so I chose to believe it to be true
>>155191350It does.
>>155196196Hot take, the US is good at soccer. Just not top tier.
>>155191257Insecurity that they can't compete and have to make their own sports and pretend to be world champions
>>155252021Thats more like it. No padded seats, lobster rolls, and fucking budlight. No "The perfect way to mix business and pleasure, what better place to meet clients". No "I've made it in life and pay 8k a season for this seat".... they're all criminals and lived in two up two downs, that got in for nothing.
>>155252216thats not really a hot take, the US tends to be pretty good/great at most sports. It's what happens when a country is huge and has enough money to throw at any Sports program you can think of.
