Someone explain to me why Brazil was so dogshit in the first 15 minutes of the game.
>>155218592You tell us, they’re your kinfolk.
>>155218592Brazil is unable to do anything good anymore
literally every single international match this happens
>>155218592They got nervous
wut?
>>155218592they think football is still played the way it was in 1986
>>155218592That was me, sorry
Shit team
They were confused
>>155218592literally unironically favela quality of life has improved so much they can't play good football anymore
Can someone explain to me why in the fuck in brazil a woman is facing a ten year jail sentence for telling a tranny (male) to leave her bathroom? Why has that shit infected your politics so badly?
>>155218911Yeah the "meta" is basically just tiring your opponent with pointless bs till they fuck up
Those 15 first minutes better reflect the quality of Brazil as a team than the rest of the game. The squad is shit and every single player deserves to be shot. Not merely expelled from the NT, but actually shot so that they cease to live.
>>155218911What do you mean?
First, they're nervous as fuck, this shirt is too heavy for must of them2nd Casemiro, Ibañez (CB improvised as RB), Paquetá and fantasminha were dogshitI feel like when Morocco conceded they were too comfy, you could see they were already starting to go for fancy passes or dribbling the whole teamA more focused team would've opened 2 goals and the game would be gone
>>155219007so, that's why you guys won it? I saw on the news that you guys were eating horse meat or something like that.
ancelotti said no trannies before games so the players weren't relaxed
>>155219007Is this factual chat
>>155218719We may have sired them, but at this point you adopted them, USA-fren.
>>155218592Because Ibanez is a guitar brand not a football player.
Morocco used the same high pressure tactic USA used yesterday Risky to do because it requires a lot of energy, but now they have hydration breaks to catch their breath
>>155219007Makes sense people wouldn't waste time on this garbage if they got better shit to do.Brazil was only ever as good as it was because we were too fucking poor and ugly and brown and stupid to do anything else.
Told you Draw
>>155218592They were too nervous. After Morocco scored they came back to their senses
>>155219021mentality like this is why we need to lose already so you faggots stop caring about shitball
>>155218592Someone explain to me why Brazil was so dogshit in the first 90 minutes of the game.
>>155219021I hope we lose just to piss off faggots like you sitting on your ass complaining about the performance of other men.
Morocco's new plan was high pressure and dynamic play which they implemented up to the point where Vini scored and then fear took over and they realized how shaky their defense is
Honestly, they were lucky they only got scored once during that time. They were playing just as sloppy as Uruguay.
>>155218592did you just wake up from a 20 years coma?
>>155219166I was thinking about how this hydration stuff is gonna change the meta. We laughed about it but it may be pretty consequential
>>155219026slow, complacent, disorganised, unfit, complete lack of urgency or pressing
>>155219166>now they have hydration breaks to catch their breathdesu that does factor into the tactics. these breaks give players time to rest so they are not exhausted for the entirety of each half, that changes the whole dynamic of the game
no midfield, centerbacks playing as fullbacks, Paquetá
>>155219007This is actually true. Back in the day favelados only had footie as their only passtime because they couldn't afford anything else. Now they all have internet access, smartphones, PCs so favela kids grow up playing thirdie vidya like Free Fire instead of dribbling a ball in the streets.
They needed a hydration break.
>>155219007>>155219400retarded meme arguments by dumb animals
>>155218592>Someone explain to me why was the dogshit team so dogshit in the first 15 minutes of the game
>>155219007so le poverty is le good for povertyball?
Is it just me or does it feel like Brazil is ALWAYS lacking aggressiveness in every single world cup?Last cup it was the same thing, they never fucking go on the offensive.
>>155219073It's actually donkey meat
>>155219007explain India
>>155219166Chat, I think we may be cooking with this
>>155218592I think it was casamero.he was shit
>>155219259This wouldn't have happened with Regragoat.
>>155218592For some reason Abuelotti went with a mixed group compared to the team he had been using recently. That and nerves, you have newfags, faggots from the last WC flop, and even faggots from the 7-1, so they were all nervous and we had to rely on the most unreliable guy to calm everyone down lol Anyway, I think this was a positive game because it exposed some frauds and I think Abuelotti will eventually run out of excuses for them. Plus they learned how to calm themselves down, the bad part is that it was an individual thing, not a collective or captain-led thing. Anyway, a positive. It could've been far worse.
>>155219541If we had gone offensive, we would have lost 5-2 at a minimum. Like it or not the balanced approach we had today was our best chance of not losing to a nation that, currently, has better names and plays much better football.
>>155219166Imagine 2022 Japan with hydration breaks
Brazil has world-quality players, but they never work together as a team. This isn't even the first time this happened - back in 2006 we had the best players in the world in most positions, and they played like shit.You don't have this perspective just by watching their international games, but world-class players like Vini Jr and Raphinha never really played that well in the national team. We call those teams "agent teams", meaning almost the whole squad is not chosen by the manager, but by the most powerful football agents that have a lot of pull in CBF. If you look up the agents of all the players right now, you'll see there are 7 or 8 that have the same agent. That's completely bonkers. The CBF treats the national team like a showcase for business, not as a sports team. Those agents want "minutagem" (how many minutes a player plays a match) so they can sell them to the an euro team in the next transfer window for 100 million.And that's it. This was never a team. This is a showcase for euro transfers. That's how you get Gabriel Jesus for 2 World Cups. 0 goals. 2 World Cups.
>>155219590We gave them cricket, so that's what they're into
>>155219717>and they played like shit.No they didn't. They didn't play as best as they could, sure, but they didn't play like shit.>but world-class players like Vini Jr and Raphinha never really played that well in the national team. That's because they aren't world class players, but glorified cogs in well oiled club machines.The rest is correct.
roccans did the same against us in a friendlythey are scary sharp mofos at the startbut i would have thought brazil will make them choke on it, they couldnt
>>155219007You would understand the favelas very well hermano But you're not wrong desu
>>155219319The Brazil team are idealists who don't dope and don't believe in those current boring strategies. Brazil natural style fits better with futsal than modern football
Brazil has dogshit lateral defenders. No idea why.CBF should be begging Cafu, Roberto Carlos, etc. to make public appearances at academies.Feels like so many players want to be wingers, forwards, strikers, etc.but there's a real lack of good lateral defenders.Also, Casemiro is the shits. No idea why he started. He's done on the national team. Fabinho came on and they stabilized.Raphinha was also real bad tonight. Ditto for Igor Thiago. Endrick should start.
>>155218592they would have been shit for 90 minutes but meme magic intervened
>>155219590how well do soccer balls roll on poop?
>>155219012Brazillians exported Paulo Freire's marxist edumacation methods to USA public schools and academia.Then the USA exported all the resulting shit this caused back to Brazil. Fun story (a bit of an obscure one as well).Or,even disregarding what i just said: whatever passes as "culture" in Brazil is really"whatever is happening in the USA but 5 to 10 years later"
Why are we acting like Brazil being used to mop the floor is some sort of surprise? Morocco is the superior team. They were great last World Cup and their new coach has built on the ideas of the previous great work that had been done, but with improvements on the offensive side. Man-by-man, they have much better goalkeeper, full-backs and midfield. We have slightly better center-backs and attack, and even that is debatable. Our coach has less than 20 games in the national team and seems thoroughly uninterested in doing anything the previous one wouldn't.We should be celebrating this draw like Haiti would celebrate against Scotland. What the fuck are you, boomers? I'm 28 years old. This "Brazil is one of the great NTs of the world, we can't accept crumbs" garbage was outdated by the time I started middle school. And, even for several years before that, the idea had yielded no crops.We are a third tier NT, like Croatia and Germany currently are. We should be celebrating draws against the likes of Portugal, Morocco, Norway, etc. And, if a draw comes against Argentina or France, you should be prepared for that to be the high point of your experience as a Brazil supporter for the rest of your life.
Endrick não entrar num jogo desse, é uma teimosia e uma burrice sem tamanho. Não existe explicação que justifique. Raphinha foi mal demais o jogo inteiro.Casemiro perdeu a vaga pra Fabinho, Raphinha pra Luiz Henrique e Igor Thiago pra Endrick. Mudanças básicas, porém efetivas.
>>155220366IDK, I don't think Morocco was that great either. Especially after their 15 minutes of fame were up. Both of you had severe trouble creating big opportunities and finishing.Could be wrong, but I feel like they were stronger 4 years ago.
>>155219717This team doesn't have any WC players apart from maybe ViniCasemiro is oldThey play like a pub team
>>155219073Kek why do I keep seeing Brazilians saying Argies are eating donkey balls?
>>155219837They played like a pub team mate
>>155220366>you should be prepared for that to be the high point of your experience as a Brazil supporter for the rest of your life.kek jesus christ, zucabrazil was unstoppable 30 years ago and now they suck assyou planning to not live for another 30 years? lots of shit can change
>>155220476Brazil barely touched the ball in the first 15 and last 15 minutes of the game. Morocco was literally trying to dribble them.
>>155219717>world quality playersOnly Vini would start for Argentina. No one would start for France. Only Vini would start for Portugal. Only Gabriel and Vini would start for Spain. Brazilians need to stop listening to what boomers have to say and understand what has been factually our position within football ever since the 2002 WC. We are dark horses like Turkey, Croatia, Belgium or Uruguay.
>>155219166They introduced hydration breaks so that Pessi and Penaldo wouldn't be spent after 40 minutes since they're the guys getting views
>>155220755>Implying Messi needs them
>>155219176FalseOlder generations of Brazil teams were more handsome on average than current Brazil barring Ronaldinho who made up for his ugliness with his charisma big time
>>155218592More like 90 minutes of the game
>>155219527Lack of Neymar?
>>155220366this + I'm actually old enough to have watched the 2002 WC and people say a lot of things about it that just weren't true.people misremember us being incredible that world cup. but the truth is that germany played without their best player, ballack, who was the actual best player in that wcturkey outplayed us the whole semifinal until r9 found luck with a half assed kickengland was as good as we were, but the team was exposed by an unbelievably lucky shot from r10 and couldn't recoverwe robbed belgiumwe only made it out of the group stage in 1st place because we also robbed turkey with a fake penaltyr9 was man of the match once the entire tournament, but by virtue of having won those 7 games and playing a decent first 12 matches for real madrid, he won the least deserved ballon d'or in history, even worse than modric as modric at least played a full season before winning
>>155220604When has ANYTHING gotten better after 2010?
>>155221018morocco :^3
>>155219012>>155220291Cringe
>>155218592>first 15The whole first half, they were allergic to the ball, it's a miracle they managed to even score.
>>155220972also people say we were unstoppable but no one believed we would win that world cup. in the media people even predicted we might not make it past the group stage because of how awful we were leading up to it
they were just feeling out the vibes on this onenext game they'll smash out a 5-0'er
>>155218592Because they’re shit
>>155220570because they are, their economy is this fucked up, they need alternative protein sources or they will starve, because most of the beef production of argentina is exported.
>>155220570propaganda spread by the leftist media, clueless lulistas blindly believed it
Vai tomar no cu Raphinha. Igor Thiago é outro horroroso.Chega desses caras. Horríveis, vergonhosos. Danilo (o volante) não pode ser reserva do Casemiro. Endrick precisa jogar. Pq nunca utilizam o mlk?
>>155221373t. dish soap drinker, tire worshipping, jewish golem
>>155220570Their working class got mossaded into weaving every right they had away in exchange for better profit margins for banks.
>>155221120>just let men invade spaces for women and sexually assault them for their fetish or you’re cringe I’ll be cringe then I guess
>>155220593And? They had enough talent to do so. It doesn't mean they played badly. They barely lost that game to France
>>155220755There was Serb guy with a hysterical girlfriend and he would ask his tanned Juznoevropski friend to fuck his girlfriend to calm her down. He would watch. He tried "sharing" his girlfriend with his limp dick friends late in the night but he had to get that friend to fuck her to calm her down. On the one hand you share your women with other men and on the other you try to rape women that reject your advances.
>>155219590India doesn't eat meat, they are weak af
>>155221995Cringe
>>155221373Nobody mentioned politicians but you L M A O
>>155221372Donkey or Horse meat is a delicacy in some pleaces. It's all perspective
>>155219259Yeah same of what I saw, They adopted the same Canadian tactics, which is fucking detrimental for the players.
>>155220366This and only this.
>>155220366>We should be celebrating draws against the likes of Portugal, Morocco, Norway, etc.I accept Portugal and Morocco. But not fucking Norway.
>>155222590Trannies have an almost 20% higher sex crime conviction rate than normal men, if you are pro that you are just pro rape.
>>155218592dog shit team, the worst it team ever put together since the 40sI wouldn't be surprised if it jobbed against Haiti, and I'm confident that it has high chances of a draw against Scotland
>>155220366On point but calling Croatia a third tier NT is a bit too much t b h
>>155219319They play in europe and are coached by an european
>>155223286What are they if not that?
O QUE ESSE VEIO FDP TEM CONTRA O GOAT???
how hard is it to have someone on the midfield that presents himself and recycles the ball, like Vitinhathis is so basic, but apparently the best team we can put on the field can't even do this
>>155220366I keep telling my friends that. Hungarians seem to be comparatively sober about the fact that they had a great run in football that is just not real anymore. Brazilians are naive about this. They point to Vini Jr and Raphinha in Spain in a way that Hungarians don't do to Kerkez and Szoboszlai in England. There's some kind of irrational arrogance in the Brazilian DNA that prevents people from seeing obvious truths.The epitome of that to me was when Alexandre Pato gave an interview in late 2022 saying his dream was to win a World Cup and be the top scorer. This is what all Brazilians are like, just on a national level instead of individual.
>>155218592the players have a weak mind
>>155219007>>155219128>>155219176>>155219400>>155219539That's bullshit. Mostly players are not favelados. Neymar, Kaka, Zico they all had a nice childhood. The problem is that nowadays being rich, being a celebrity, being a Real Madrid/Barcelona face matters more than win a WC.
>>155224870Neymar, Kaka and Zico combined half 0.5% of a contribution to a World Cup victory and that's Kaká being a decent player to train defenders against in 2002.
>>155226008There are others, the point remains, being born poor has never been an advantage, quite the opposite. Being poor makes players prioritize money above all else.
>>155224315vai se fuder, vira-lata do caralhoo brasil passou 24 anos sem ganhar nada até conquistar o tetrae a seleção naquela época era totalmente desacreditada resultado? 3 finais seguidas e dois títulos
>>155220366trvke>>155226993cope
>>155224870>>155226008>>155226849I wonder if there are stats about from which social class our players from past NTs came from
>>155226849Well, yeah, but the examples were bad.Tostão, Capita, Mauro Silva, Raí and Leonardo, if I recall correctly, all grew up in the middle class. The middle class back then was, maybe, 1% of the population. So it would be equivalent to someone nowadays being born in a luxury condominium and wearing gucci diapers.
>>155227052cope? você está comemorando empate com um time que não tem tradição nenhumao que é marroco no futebol internacional? o que eles ganharam? nadaas únicas seleções que o brasil precisa respeitar é a itália, a alemanha, a frança e a argentina
>>155227385Brazil is a 50yo accomplished boxer saying he should never expect to tie against a 22yo rising star because the kid was never world champion like he was many times.>I only owe any respect Rocky Marciano and Muhammad Ali!The truth is that the world's movement has outpaced Brazil's evolution. That's why we say you're coping. You just do not know how to admit that we have aged out of greatness, and a whole generation of 22~28 year olds has never experienced a happy moment with Brazil in the World Cup.
No Endrick (the black Pele).
>>155220972it's amazing how many lies these people spread about the older teams. nowadays you see kids posting about our fullbacks and mentioning marcelo like he ever had a single good game for the NT. i could 100% see all the other brazil teams i've watched play having a dogshit performance like this.
>>155224315Are you seriously comparing Brazil to Hungary?https://www.thesoccerworldcups.com/nt_comparisons/hungary_vs_brazil.phphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary_at_the_FIFA_World_Cup#Record_at_the_FIFA_World_Cuphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_at_the_FIFA_World_Cup#Records
brazilians should do this more often
>>155227671e eu te refutei mostrando que entre 1970 e 1994 existiu 24 anos de jejum e a seleção estava totalmente desencorajada pela populaçãona época existia gente com a mesma ladainha sua e a história está aí para mostrar a verdadecriança
>>155227845I just don't understand how that happens. Who is making up those lies? Like, I watched the World Cup of 2010 with my own eyes. I had a Spanish girlfriend with whom I watched every one of Spain's matches. Did my eyes deceive me? I saw a dogshit team robbing Paraguay and relying on miracle after miracle to win that tournament. Spain was amazing in 2008, but 2010? They sucked ass. Nowadays, I see kids saying that 2010 Spain was the greatest team of all time and BS like that.
>>155227385What about Holland
>>155219007Muttzil is getting worse though
>>155228570kids just watch highlight reels and think ronaldinho was incapable of having a shit game + some people are just retarded. they'll shit on a player for years but as long as they're tangentially related to an important title suddenly they're untouchable and then history is rewritten. i fucking guarantee you if we won this WC there will be people jerking off the likes of alex sandro in a few years max.
>>155228570Spain's so called "generational midfield" was tikitakagooning without creating anything for 95% of the world cup
>>155218592they have been mid for quite a while now
>>155220570A province put up a sign about what local fauna can be eaten, and donkey meat was there, and the opposition of the government started saying that we are so screwed that we now start eating donkey meat, it's all retarded meme
>>155224870>kakaDo macacoids really?
Are >we better than Brazil?
>>155220366Brazil has become Manchester United. The signs are all over the place because you’re getting grouped in the U20s WC.
>>155229761Worse than bucksil, better than Haiti
>>155220030Danilo and Douglas Santos were okay. Not Cafu or Carlos levels, but didn’t compromise. If anything, Marquinhos is shit.
Which Brazil was best between 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022 and now?
>>1552301832010 and 2018
>>1552301832010 was a shit team but was a team2014 was dogshit2018 was good2022 was also good2026 is dogshit
>>1552302782022 > 20182018 had fagner baka
>>1552301832010 could've won the world cup with more luck
Aren't you too quick to rule out Brazil and too excessive in your criticism? They're ranked 6th and had a draw with the n° 7 (Morocco).Is it really that bad? When Vini scored, Morocco got scared so they resorted to blocking Brazil's dynamic play and they're really good at precisely that: freezing a game and making progression really hard.Does that invariably mean that Brazil will do nothing? I'm not sold on that. I believe it's more that Brazil started slow and Morocco adapted by playing into Brazil's absolute weakness.
>>155219007good fucking bait post top kek
>>155231936AI post
>>155232054Now, why would you call yourself an illiterate retard? Thanks for the compliment i guess
>>155220570>>155221372>>155229662kek
Football is generational and eras. Brazil just lack the quality of the past.
What did abuelotti mean by this?
>>155232046A significant aspect of the Brazilian game was ball control and technique. Those were forcibly developed by favelados having to play on patchy fields (if even playing on a field at all). Now that they have better conditions, they either play counterstrike at home or go play football on a proper field
>>155218788>>155229811>>155230303We still got a good team. With Endrick, Vini Jr and Neymar, everything will be fine
>>155232262Actually, we didn’t lose.Brazil could easily have fielded a team of young players instead of older ones, but conservatism won out. Ancelotti didn’t realise how much pressure the national team faces in Brazil; when he found out, he simply called up the more experienced players out of fear.
>>155231936I agree. I called it early btw >>155193416
I find it impressive that they left Joao Pedro out.
>>155218592this country has been over in every conceivable way for yearsneymar killed brazilian football, thanks to him being a whining crybaby acting like some single mom raised brat has been normalized and now all these deformed gorilla looking niggers like vini jr spend 80% of the game acting like those nigs cheering for karmelo anthonyTHE LAST ONE OUT TURN THE LIGHTS OFF
>>155229722His name is Ricardo, it's a nickname you dumbass.
>>155232929How is your draw against 2026's Morocco worse than your draw/loss to Croatia in 2022? Genuine question.
>>155232302no, the actual difference is that brazilian football has been co-opted by the clubs to make moneytalented players are forced to play positions that generate more revenue, such as wingersthus, they created a generation of mediocre wingers who could been good fullbacks, midfielders and strikers
>>155220570They suck at biology. We were actually eating cats.
>>155232351NanThat guy who mentioned Hungary is rightYou won't become mediocre like Hungary but your time as a WC contender is gone for good methinks
>>155233222CHURRASCO DE GATOSOPA DE MACACO
>>155232624João Pedro isn’t any good.Every Brazilian knows who the top talents of this generation are and who should be in the national team.Endrick, Rayan, Vitor Roque...Also, the best Brazilian number 9 today is called Pedro, and he has consistently been Brazil’s best number 9 for the last four years.And yes, a dreadful player called Igor Thiago was called up because, in his entire disastrous career, he had one good year playing for a mediocre team, scoring goals from counter-attacks, headers and penalties.
>>155232351>We still got a good team.Mein Fuhrer....
>>155233154you do not understand how pathetic our players are on a spiritual level (and that reflects the average shitzilian)i think the only one with a modicum of decency is Alissonthe people i watched with kept mentioning how moroccan players were more dignified and didn't throw a tantrum everytime something didn't go their way, as well that they weren't covered in tattoos like monkeyzilians
>FALTA RAÇA PRO TIMEis there an actual sports analyst out there that says anything meaningful?
>>155233829they won't say 90% of our team should be paid less and what they ultimately need is a father figure who'll beat the shit out of them instead of acting like spoiled single mom raised monkeys who expect to be constantly praised for the most mundane shitand they will never say that because that would be shitting on the average macacothis country is OVER
>>155219590they can't do any type of sport, they're not humanthey also die on their 40s because of pollutiona 20yo indian is already middleaged
>>155218592They have been a weakminded team since 2002
>>155233428Pedro is shit, you clearly twist for Flamengo
>>155218592They all had the bottom of their feet wiped harshly by sexy pegging Mistresses
Neymar and his legacy will haunt the Brazilian football for the next 20 years at least
>>155226993>Vira-lataBrazilians love saying this lolIt's always a codeword for "You're supposed to be a part of my cult"
>>155229662Something similar happened with us. There was some article saying that kids in Portugal were only learning Brazilian so now Brazilians think the new gen of Portugal got converted wololo style.
>>155240981>>155240981wololo wololo vocêi e sow filhinh agoura falaum brazileirow aee cara wololo seus garotjinh falam crioul agora wololo voce so podji falar em braileiro carai wololo
>>155233139>Nicknaming a player "Shit"
>>155241096kek
>>155218592They lost the sauce a long time ago
>>155218592They were dogshit for the entire game. Portugal is by far the strongest lusophone team.
>>155220030absolutely grim when you get taken off for the even more ancient Fabinho and he does better than you. do brasil really not have ANYONE else other than those 2 geriatics for that CDM position?
>>155224021starting to think Incellotti only took this job to ensure that endricky gets no minutes for the national team kek
>>155241111it's not cocô
It’s simple. In the past, football was pretty much the only way to escape poverty in South America. But with the rise of digital platforms, now they can become YouTubers, TikTokers, or content creators. Football is no longer the only way out for them
>>155218592its easy you had high expectations because you still think we gonna see a 2002 or 2006 brasil yet in the first 45 mins you didnt saw a single dribble(didnt watch the second one cause i knew that i was about to just cringe) and instead you saw tiki taka dogshit
>>155219007>brasil was doing fine when the ban of selling players was in place >brasil started to go dogshit the moment the goverment lifted the ban and nobody stayed in brasil
>>155243110They do, but they are in the brazilian league and do not get called unless an agent has an interest in selling their player to the PL.As an example: Abuelotti never called Mattheus Martinelli even though he’s the engine of Fluminense for example (the semifinalist team of the FIFA Mickey Mouse cup).
>>155243257"Caca" doesn't mean "poop" in Brazilian?
>>155243698Nah, man, this ain't it.Brazil was straight up DOGSHIT in the first 15 minutes.They were underwhelming and bad the rest of the game, but there's no comparison.
>>155220570https://youtu.be/gzrX1UahdAc?is=9ybBAMi4htX9mDGsWhat electing jews does to a mf
>>155218592we are a KoF nation anyways
>>155244584yes thats exactly it if they didnt had the brasil shirt you wouldnt even cared one bit they made the jogo bonito and they are the ones that destroyed it
They forgot to put the 5 COPAS in the field
>>155243698Brazil in 2018 and 2022 weren't anywhere near as bad as the current one.
>>155218592Brazil were genuinely not Brazil that whole game. If I was Haiti or Scotland I'd have a inkling of no fear against team considering their wing backs department is piss poor. Roger Ibanez can't even run back without the support Casemiro. Danilo Santos can't defend at all. Bono barely had to make any big saves that while I'm supposed to believe O Hexa is coming. Gonna be a shock to system when they play the bigger teams
>>155219007thanks Lula
>>155245651true but only if you watch it from an isolated perspective 2010 and 2014 for us that saw the 02 and 06 were dogshit exactly because the expection here for them to be at least at top 3 also nobody expected for brasil to eat 7 goals or lose to fucking belgium
>>155245652I hope Ancelotti does one of those Real Madrid runs in the CL where Real seemed complete shite but still somehow won the title. It's my only cope/hope, otherwise all of the indications are that >we wont get far.
>>155218592They weren't. They were dogshit the entire game.
>>155218592because Brazil pick their national teams based on auras and instagram followers
Monkeyzil will just turn into Italy it's quite obvious. Not saying they will miss multiple WC or anything, they will win one every 30 years and that's about it, the era of Monkeyzil being a powerhouse is over and other teams are starting to lose any respect for them.Eliminated by Croatia, Belgium now drawing to Morocco. This is the new Brazil
They used to have some really good footballers. They were also drilled for the duration of the tournament by very strict coaches, who would do literally anything to win. In addition to that they had referee support at every level, were the darlings of FIFA and could rely on the usual spread of theatrics and cheating. Basically they were the international version of Real Madrid. Really, really good and boosted by every decisionThen they stopped making good players. In their current squad they have Raphinha. If you compare that to the team of 10/10 footballers they could usually cobble together, you end up drawing to Morocco and looking by far the worst side
>>155245849They did look shit, you’re right. But they were still effective and they still had world beaters. Underperforming world beaters, but true qualityFor the first time in my life time, my father’s lifetime, and his fathers, there isn’t a Brazilian player that would get in the England starting 11. Go back a few years and 9 of them would, at least. And we’re not as good as Spain, France or Argentina
>>155245968Nigger your only WC title came from a reff giving you goals at the final stfu
>>155246034I know it did. But we aren’t discussing England, we’re discussing Brazil. England have blown it at multiple tournaments recently but if we played you ten times you wouldn’t win once. That performance against Morocco would get you booty blasted by the USA or Scotland
>>155246082You literally tied to the US last cup lmao Marroco eliminated spain and portugual and reached the semi-finals, which you didn't.
>>155229662What's up with Milei, anyways. Why is he such a theatrical kike worshipper?
>>155243698I can think of at least 5 dribbles by brazil in the first half. One by paquetá, two by vini, one by rafinha, and a fifth one which was a flick but I don't remember by whom. People are way to emotional about this match, Brazil was nervous but after Vini's goal they regain composure and controlled the ball for the rest of the match until the last few minutes. Morrocos was obviously happy to tie as seen by the insane time wasting by them in the second half (that gk was embarassing). The brazilian team is nearly there, Ancellotti will make a few adjustments over the next couple of matches and Brazil will come locked in for the knockout stages.
>>155246153we’re in the current World Cup not the last one
diesel engine had to warm up
This wc is ours, you can cope all you want. This is Endricks WC same way 2002 was Ronaldos. Wait and see.
>>155246388he has to actually play for that to happen and you know ancelotti has no intention of giving him a single minute
>>155246388>scored 5 goals against French farmers on loan from worst Real Madrid team in more than a decade and now they think he's 2002 Ronaldo
>>155246388This. In a couple of matches the starting lineup will include Endrick, Danilo and either Fabinho or Danilo Santos instead of Casemiro. That's all you need for the team to click. Ancelotti already sees this for sure. He will test it against Haiti and Scotland for the final adjustments, and Brazil will be good to go for the knockout stage.
>>155218592Was Raphinha playing? He didn't do SHIT
>>155218592I wouldn't take the merit away from Morocco. Brazil is certainly not what it used to be, but Morocco plays great football. They're very organized in their movement and precise in their touches, a pleasure to watch. Brazilians should be grateful that they have someone with the talent to make a difference in a game like that. I can only think of another couple of players that could pull off a goal like Vini did.
>>155246881Not that FIFA rankings mean a whole lot, but Morocco is ranked 8th. It was the only match of the world cup so far between 2 top 10 countries.They're probably ranked higher than Mexico but I haven't checked.
>>155246944>ranked 8thFIFA rankings are bullshit. Morocco got to semis on the Qatar world cup, while Mexico got grouped. Morocco is light years ahead of any Concacaf team, they're easily top 5.
>>155218592We're hidding our powerlevel.
>>155246944Morocco is ranked 7th, higher than the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Croatia and Italy and close to Brazil who's 6th.Mexico are ranked 13th and i believe that the n°16, Senegal, are better than them.https://inside.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/men
Brazil missing too many short passes, it was so fucking annoying. Clearly there's near zero team cohesion and this is not something that can be built in a few WC games.
ancelotti is looking dumb for still playing raphinha, if he insist with this fucker he will be like all previous retards that imortalized faggots like fred or gabriel jesus, that guy cant shoot the fucking ball, he had the ball game and fumbled, barcelona apologists should all kill themselves.
>>155247556I wonder if they went up a position after the tie or if they were always 7th and I just misremembered.
Mamdani was right. Morocco is unironically going to win this tournament.
>>155247661>>155246614
>>155247701No, we didn't go up after this tie with Brazil. The rankings only update once a month i think and if you go to liverankings, you can that the score of yesterday's match didn't affect our elo ranking substantially enough to make it budge.
>>155247729Lol i wish, but it's just impossible. Until we get good at actually getting the ball in the net, you know, the purpose of this whole game, we're not gonna win a world cup.
only 15 minutes?
>>155247771>The rankings only update once a monthNot sure if that's the case, but if it's not, they should really make an exception during world cups and update after every match. It's the world cup.
>>155248301Ok, so apparently i was wrong. The rankings are up to date.Brazil at 1765.34Morocco at 1755.62The impact of yesterday's draw was an increment of 0.5 point for Morocco and a decrement of 0.5 point for Brazil. Irrelevant
>>155248520>>155248301Just use elo mates
>>155246881I'm not seething or trying to be bitter but the merit is not on Morocco. We gave the ball away to them for free dozens of times and they managed 3 shots on target. This was with an improvised fullback (who played just like that the entire first half) and a midfield carrying 2 metric tons of shit in their diapers. This match was mostly on Brazil being shit and disorganized, but Morocco did kind of win the tactical battle even if they did little with the free balls.
Good morning, /sp/Fuck raphinhaFuck MarquinhosFuck CasemiroFuck PaquetáThat is all (for now)
>>1552469447th, and brazil is 6th
What does Paquetá do ? that dude was lost
It just shows how behind Brazil is to European coaching.
>>155220366good post
>>155224870>Neymar had a nice childhoodOf course he did. Imagine coming home from school every day and fucking your sister.
>>155248919I somewhat agree with you but where you're not crediting Morocco is in the impact they had in the disruption of the Brazilian game and their progression. There's a chance that you see things from a different lense if you rewatch the match. A lot of what your frustration and the blame you put on your players is actually on the Moroccan side.Where i 100% agree with you is how we terribly sucked at attacking and conversion. I think that's understated and makes me think we won't fare well in this world cup.
>>155218911Nah they play like scared sissies always passing the ball back, either that or a slow and lethargic "tiki taka" that goes nowhere
>>155220366>much better goalkeeperAbsolutely not
>>155249191I don't know, Brazil is clearly the most disorganized team in this tournament. Those wrong passes weren't just forced mistakes, a lot of it was the fact that was the first time that XI played together, at all, not just in a serious match. Do you reckon Morocco's midfield can keep this up against better trained teams? I found that Brazil's attacks, when they got past midfield, worked way too often but I'm not sure which team to credit for that at this point.
>>155250093All of this will be settled down and the real worth of your team will be quantifiable when we're past the group stage. I'm still convinced that a good part of your reservations about your team are due to misreading what is on your team and what is to be attributed to the Moroccan disruptions of your play.>Do you reckon Morocco's midfield can keep this up against better trained teams?I do, but only because the gameplan would differ and because there'd be Amrabat playing as the backbone of that midfield in any high stake game.That being said, you will suffer against Scotland. They're defensive and play the counter and you suck at dealing with this kind of contenders.
>>155220366Baseado Anão. a seleção bostileira perdeu a moral faz tempo, somos uma seleção de terceira categoria, se chegarmos nas quartas e passarmos de seleções como a Holanda, Japão, Noruega, etc. é milagre
>>155250324Ancelotti has shown himself to be quite pragmatic at least. It's a shame we don't have Estêvão for low blocks but the attack has been improving.Morocco looks quite capable of repeating their previous WC's achievements. A lot of people are writing off our teams because of this match. I understand how it looked but that's quite naive.
>>155250988all we need to do is rape the scotians and the world will understand the message
>>155244564Kaká is different from Kaka/Caca
>>155249112Their parents are Moroccan,who fucking cares i thought euros hated moors and wanted them out anyway so why the seething about moors choosing thir country of origin ? Do you want a nafri dutch team like france has with the blacks ?
>>155218592>first 15 minutes of the game15? even when they equalized they remained shit
>>155218592typical carlo. he's only good in the second half
>>155218592they were always cheating scum and VAR has exposed them
>>155251210I'm not seething at all but the squad is so good due to European coaching.
>>155250988Imagine the 2022 world cup, but in reverse. Portugal looked spectacular before being disrupted in their match against Morocco. They even scored a 6-1 against Switzerland the match before.Now imagine what people would be saying if their first match in the group stages was against us? We're just that good at being parasitic to attacking and possession teams, which can skew your reading of what happened. And unfortunately for you, Scotland is kind of the same to a lower extent.You guys just don't shine against this kind of teams is all, so i really think that we'll only have a full realization of Brazil's real worth past the group stage.
>>155251211But in the first minutes they were completely lost in the pitch
>>155218592they don't have Hulk anymore
>>1552301832010 had the best all-around team2018 and 2022 also had good teams>>155232284There just is something about Endrick that makes people dislike him. It's not just Ancelotti. His current contract (Lyon) has a clause where he NEEDS to be a starter, and even so his manager put him on the bench while publicly disparaging him.There is just something about Endrick we do not know.
>>155251141Same shit
>>155220366holy based>Our coach has less than 20 games in the national team and seems thoroughly uninterested in doing anything the previous one wouldn'ttruth, Ancelotti so far has been a disappointment, the team has been shit like always been, maybe with a little moral boost from having someone like him at bench but still. Fucking Casemiro and Paqueta starting is a joke
>>155251290Envyous fat pig>>155253197>naming your coach Joaquim Rolão PretoKek, do fag tugas realy?
>>155244564>>155253197go back to spain, manolo
>>155251755>There just is something about Endrick that makes people dislike himHe might be a real sperg, unironically
>>155253398I also think the same. His behavior does not seem the one people would expect from a footballer of his age. He seems to enjoy being isolated and this will cost him a lot.
such a shit team with no midfield and support from the fullbacks but 99% of the commentary here is "put Endrick in and take Raphinha out"yeah I'm sure that will fix things
>>155218592This is not the Brazil National Team. This is Italy-2 National Team. This is not a true national team, as it is not trained by someone that was born in the country.
>>155254130If he were anything other than Brazilian that might’ve worked for his career. Alas he’s not so lucky
>>155232046Why is your country so good now?
