Or did they reach their ceiling?
Korea has a bit possibility but Japan reached the ceiling alreadyWe'll be just declining
nihon banzaifuck worst korea
>>155349165>south korea is worst korea even though it's the one just like japan except without my tranimesRetardbro...
>>155349135world knows korean is cheater they pay referee to 4th place in 2002 japan world cupthus is the typical k wayyoutube comments:It's crazy that these guys are actually still proud of making it to the Final Four.There’s no doubt that this is part of the reason why Italy and Spain showed respect for Japanese soccer at this year’s World Cup.I love Maradona's blunt comment: "Is this what happens if you eat nothing but kimchi?"I had a good laugh when I heard that German cities refused to accommodate the South Korean team during the 2006 World Cup, so they ended up having to go to Scotland instead.If they accepted the referee’s calls, they wouldn’t be playing this kind of soccer now, would they?Is there any other country that’s hated this much?I can't believe Germany managed to win with all that rough play.I don't want the World Cup held in South Korea ever again.It's hilarious that, even after the bribe,they're still only good enough to make it to the semifinals.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghN37ZvBfpQ
.While Japan did produce individual European trailblazers earlier than South Korea (such as Yasuhiko Okudera in the German Bundesliga in the 1970s and Hidetoshi Nakata in the Italian Serie A in the late 1990s), South Korea was the first to export a critical mass of top-tier talent in the aftermath of 2002.South Korea's first major wave occurred in the early 2000s following the 2002 World Cup, establishing an established "Korean contingent" in the English Premier League and Bundesliga.The South Korean Wave (Mid-2000s): Riding the momentum of 2002, a wave of South Korean internationals secured high-profile transfers to major European leagues. This generation included Park Ji-sung (who moved to the Dutch Eredivisie with PSV Eindhoven before transferring to the English Premier League with Manchester United) and Lee Young-pyo (who joined Tottenham Hotspur). The United States did not field a full generation of top-flight European regulars until the mid-to-late 2010s.The Japanese Surge (2010s) Japan subsequently followed with its own mass wave in the 2010s. Backed by a structural shift that prioritized European development, a massive generation of Japanese players Yasuhiko Okudera flooded leagues like the Bundesliga and the Dutch Eredivisie, spearheaded by stars like Shinji Kagawa, Keisuke Honda, and Shinji Okazaki
>>155349135Korea is declining due to build their team around Son and not investing in the future, ro32 exit.Japan look strong, might make QF with a good draw
they're both 3rd worlders so yes they've reached their ceiling
>>155349657you are third world same as korea
Latin lover? More like Korean lover! Our reputation precedes us
>>155349135Japan has the players but they lack a sort of belief as a nation with their 100 Year Vision Plan, in which the main target is to win the World Cup. The players are definitely there now, we used to only seeing 1 Japanese breakout star that moved to Europe 5-10 years ago theres 3-5 players every year now. The J1 League is thriving now under a new calendar format. South Korea is having a little bit of a struggle due to manager infighting and an overreliance on Son Heung Min + shareholders pressure. Chaebols (the big companies) sponsoring the team is a scurge. The K1 League is struggling too and the football is Championship level tier. But they have the players who are extremely physical and disciplined just poorly coached rn. If you asked me trajectory wise who is on the up its Japan. In a current match between Japan and Korea I got Korea in a scrappy 1-0.
>>155349665ya talking about yourself like this is 3rd world behaviour enjoy your sexual harrassment trains, rigid confucianist culture and saving face like pajeets lmao
>>155349135No
>>155349719Japan only started to be rise in the 1990s, how come they produce more quality players than the US who also began investing into the sport in the same decade
>>155349667Well, at this point, the Korean guy might fuck her right away.Damn, how I'd love to fuck a beautiful Korean girl, an idol, but unfortunately, there are no Korean girls here.
The next step is to import a bunch of Africans.
>>155349768you are replying to a false-flagging spammer
>>155349135No.
>>155349665>we can drink water>as long as we have drinkable water, we are above the rest>we might be slowly and steadily declining, but at least can drink waterThat cope is the ultimate sign of downfall. EU fanboys started doing this five years ago and we are in recession ever since. The last attempt to feel superior while everything around you crumbles.
>>155349135Maybe
>>155349135This isn't even Japan's current ceiling. Half their squad their injured.
>>155349135Trust the 100 year plan
>>155353580Yeah. Brighton's Mitoma would have started. Wataru Endo would have started. They're probably 9th best in the world right now
Japan goes either way. I think the door is open now for some notable Japanese players to maybe make some transfers to bigger league, and I can definitely see the past few World Cups inspiring the younger generation.Japan's performances in niche sports that aren't THE mainstream thing, but are just one or two steps from being there, are surprisingly good. They're great at their mainstream sport, I don't think it will be as popular as High school baseball or baseball, but I can see it becoming a sport way easier to pick up and train for, which improves the likelihood.>>155349783Being a seriously good footy player is like being a seriously good basketball player, or being a good baseball player. You start the moment you can stand up and hold a ball, in football you start the moment you can sprint as a child. The UCL training is straight inferior to the MLS, and the MLS barely ever looks at anyone from the UCL.The matter of the fact is that good American footballers come from families who already have the interest of football/soccer, because no one else is noticing football talent. You don't see footy in US schooling, and MLS scouting is always focused mainly on looking at the foreign players internationally or academies domestically because it ideally filters down contestants.The system is "recongized talent" -> academy (expensive) <- MLS scoutersProblem is that you also have established scouters all over these academies too, and they get brought overseas and trained across the world if they're good or if they present promise. European leagues are more lucrative for their career.
>>155353737Most of their players are in Europe now. Maeda plays for Celtic, Ao Tanaka plays for Leeds, Doan plays for Frankfurt, Ueda plays for Feyenoord, Kubo plays for Real Sociedad
>>155353680Losing Endo is such a big deal as well, not just muh inspiring captain but that kind of midfield destroyer is a million times more valuable in internation football and he would have been really important against the dutch and the swedes being a foot taller than they are.
Kool has done wonders for Korean men abroad
>>155349135>Will they continue to improveYeah, I mean, I don't know how much room for improvement left, but over the past 15 years or so, the number of Japanese players playing in Europe has continued to grow, and Japan has been (slowly but surely) improving.So I don't think that trend will stop immediately. Why would it? It’s possible that progress will be so slow from now on that most people won’t even care, though.
Japan needs a couple super players to win. Someone at the same level as a Modric or Iniesta.
>>155349163Hello Kim,Nice to see you again.
>>155349306that's not truesouth korea is a very weird country that's both western (due to christianity) and eastern, and it happens to unite the worst of both worlds
>>155349163t. Sgt. Gomez of Okinawa
Japan definitely has room to improve. Soccer was historically not a popular sport in their country and they never even qualified to a woeld cup before 1998. They seem to get better with each passing year. The sport continues to get more popular and they have the population and capital to be great
Not sure how the groups broke out but is there a possibility of a Japan v Korea match? The shitposting would be glorious.
>>155349648This. Son is way beyond his prime and people still put him on same pedestal like it's still 2020
Japan has the same potential as the USA and Korea has the same potential as Australia. Upper Income Countries where it's a popular but not most popular sport. Japan has a lot of people and a few big cities with good training grounds, Korea has a few big cities but is also a bit smaller. All of them will do much better at Women's Soccer.