What's the point of a national team when it's 50%+ foreigners?
yeah i don't get it
There is no point
>>155426089>Foreigners>Born in the countrySmartest American>Muh cat not horse muh stableYes, true. Irrelevant comparasion and does not apply
i don't know.let me know when that happens because with current fifa rules you can only play if you are part of the nation
>>155426311>Irrelevant comparisonIt's literally not though
Why is Africa so shit then?
>>155426690It is because Cats and horses are different species that do not share the same DNA structure therefore can not reproduceHumans can reproduce with eachother regardless.Brutally refuted
>>155426421>A nation is a type of social organization where a collective identity—a national identity—has emerged from a combination of shared features across a given population, such as language, history, ethnicity, culture, territory, or society.
>>155426813Have you never seen a cat fuck a horse?
>>155426089This is what will inevitably end the World Cup's raison d'être and make it not special anymore. National teams just naturalize the players that they want, and this allows them to draft them for the WC. Plenty of "naturalized" brazilian mercenaries in this WC.>>155426421FIFA is not based enough to pass a anti-natural citizen rule to get rid of all the brazilian free agents turning WC into qatari club football.FIFA rules are easily spun with naturalizations.Germany could naturalize Messi and have him play for them, if Messi wanted.
>>155426813It's called an analogy. Africans cannot be Europeans just like cats can't be horses. Africans and Europeans are both human like cats and horses are both mammals. Analogies might be a bit too advanced for your pea brain though.
>>155426890professionalization didn't end club soccer.
>>155426910>It's called an analogy. Africans cannot be Europeans just like cats can't be horses. Africans and Europeans are both human like cats and horses are both mammals. Analogies might be a bit too advanced for your pea brain though.Cats and horses can't reproduce together ,different species. Africans and Europeans reproduce together and produce healthy humans every day , same species. Your analogy requires us to be as different as cat and horse. We're not. We're cats from different alleys. Try again.
>>155427047Nobody's saying black and white people are different species idiot. Your argument would imply that no nations exist because any two people from any two given nations can reproduce with each other. By your argument I'm Chinese because I could have kids with a Chinese person.
>>155426875Whats an american? Lol
>>155426089The england team were 22/23 born in England lad
>>155427171
>>155427179Me on my way to represent the Cherokee nation
>>155427298That's not a country
>>155427365Neither is England.
>>155427421Wrong
>>155427456If England is a country then the Navajo, Cherokee, etc are countries. Do you have an English passport or a UK passport?This is besides the point though. I was born on the land the Cherokee are indigenous too, but I'm not Cherokee. I'm still European.
>>155426089I don't see a problem when they are born and raised in the country. The issue lies with "naturalized" mercenaries. FIFA should never allow this shit.
>>155427559>I don't see a problem when they are born and raised in the countryThey're not a member of the nation. So why are they on the "national" team?
>>155427546So you would play for a European team if you were a football player?
>>155427610No, because "America" is a nation of Europeans, separate from the original indigenous tribes, that emerged during colonization.
>>155427654So native Americans aren't allowed to play for America?
>>155427688They shouldn't be. They weren't even citizens for the majority of this country's history.
>>155427711racistdoes your mother know you post shit like this?
>>155427762That's an objective fact. I don't see why they should even want to be, considering the fact that we were essentially in a state of constant warfare with them for centuries.
>>155427762>his mother doesn't routinely say nigger and call for the deportation of all migrantssometimes I forget how in Europe, eveb the old people are generally lefty shitlibs
>>155427918wait why the fuck did I get assigned an Italian flag
>>155426089That's what I'm trying to work out
>>155427961Where are you from?
>>155427985American south
>>155428049VPN?
They are not foreigners, and they are not even naturalized.Naturalized players must live 5 years in the country to be able to play for the National Team unless you grandparents were born there.You're just mad you're getting replaced, and you're starting to notice.Don't worry, the replacement will get even faster once European Countries adopt Jus Soli.Italy is about to do it.You won't do shit, and even if you were to do shit you can't vote your way out of it because of the Constitution.Want to change the Constitution?Go to war.Don't want to go to war?So you don't really think things are that bad.
>>155426910Races are not species you fucking moron. Your analogy is horrible.
>>155428548When did I say they were? Nations aren't species either.
>>155428586>Africans cannot be Europeans just like cats can't be horses. Africans and Europeans are both human like cats and horses are both mammals.You are comparing a fucking class of animals to a species.
>>155426089At least the French and English have the excuse of colonialism. You have some moral obligation there. The Germans let Turks and Swiss let Albanians for the hell of it. Lmao that's just as bad as Syrians
>>155429521That's kind of what an analogy is...
how far back are we going to determine "true" nationality?
>>155428586Do you even know what a nation is?Nation != EthnicityWC is about national team, not ethnic teams.
>>155429674Depends on the nation, obviously. For England, maybe 1,000 years. For the rest of Europe, maybe 10,000.
>>155429685Well some nations are defined by ethnicity, not all. US and France are not, but a place like Israel or the Balkan countries are
>>155429685>A nation is a type of social organization where a collective identity—a national identity—has emerged from a combination of shared features across a given population, such as language, history, ethnicity, culture, territory, or society.France, Germany, England, Italy, pretty much all of Europe are ethnic nations. America is a racial nation. Brazil is a cultural nation.
>>155429762The French are weird about ethnicity, they don't allow the state to keep track of it because they think its inherently racist to do so. They're a civic nationalist state, the idea is that anyone can "become French" if they follow certain values and what not.
>>155429739>US is notFalse. America is an ethnic nation, although historically other white ethnicities were given rights equal to Americans until they assimilated. France as well. France was homogeneous for hundreds of years after it was founded.
>>155429818Since when? You can't in good faith say that's the same France of Napoleon. At that point it's an entirely new nation, not worthy of the same title.
>Africans and Europeans reproduce together and produce healthy humans every dayLeast cucked european.
>>155426089Not a thing anymore because people are able to chose where in the world they’d like to liveAnd yes, that’s a good thing!
>>155429739Perfect, so when you'll see Africans play for Israel then you can have your meltdown legitimately>>155429762Do you even know how to read? Let me single out the important part> a combination Just because YOU believe ethnicity is the only one that should count doesn't make it so, chud
>>155429913I'm not saying what I believe, I'm saying what is. Historically Europe has been defined by ethnic nations, not cultural nations. This is undeniable. If you (like many) think these nations should be replaced by a slate of nations not defined by ethnicity then fine, just don't call them the same thing.
>>155429909Do you think Europe will become more like Africa if it takes in more African immigrants?
french anons. how does the average french person feel about the french national team? and when I say average person I dont mean average french anon because those are 2 very different thingsdo they see the absurdity of it all or does it go mostly unspoken
>>155430044the french are faggots, they probably like it. fucking gay ass shit country. beer > wine
>>155427100Yes they are, there are plenty of animals from separate species that can produce fertile offspring. Absent progressive politics we would 100% qualify different races as different species
>>155430272No lol races are subspecies
>>155429685That is, literally, what a nation is. An ethnic group. They just retconned the definition to mean "inhabitants of a given state" to be deliberately confusing and make it harder to articulate opposition to mass immigration, just like they did with British / French / German etc.
>subhuman /pol/ thread during a comfy WCkys
>>155430578SAAR I JUST AS AMERDICAN AS YOU
>>155426089The goyim who watch this shit eat it all up and don't see anything wrong with it. Niggers have become so ubiquitous people in football it doesn't even register with normies
>>155427711Well Europeans shouldn’t play as they are not citizens of the future caliphate of eurabia
>>155426089most euro teams are almost entirely ngubu.
>>155426421nigs will never really be european.
>>155429581>You have some moral obligation there>you just have to surrender your country >cultural suicide is moralyou leftists are completely deranged. completely owned by marxists, and you retards think you're moderate.
>>155428548Pitbulls and golden retrievers are the same speciesThe same difference exists between humans and niggers, quite more even
>>155426089it's in line with the modern notion that countries are nothing but economic zones
>>155434315Sweden is like 80%+ white though
>>155434869~70%. among the youth, less than half.
>>155435223grim, utterly grim
>>155435223I meant the soccer team, but sure
>>155435223>less than half amongst the youthThat's not even true in America
viva la franceviva la englando
>>155427298Olympics 2028 will have this for lacrosse lol. Iroquis confederacy team getting all the New England pocahontases
>>155429685Look up the etymology of "nation" and the equivalent term in Greek.
>>155426089A lot of them are mutts. Not foreigners. Like the England and Dutch team.Many also come from overseas island territory that were never independent in the first place.
>>155426778Because they all play in Europe>>155426089Nothing
>>155437256Isn’t actually confirmed?
>>155426311Being born there is one thing, being raised there is another. Several national teams are filled with players who were born there but grew up in other countries, or in some instances weren't born there at all, but through certain diplomatic associations between countries or loopholes in their laws, they can get citizenship and play for the national team.I think this rule could easily be changed if you can prove or show you have lived in that country more than half your life and have citizenship there. Otherwise you're a complete alien to the countries culture, which is what OP seems to be opposed to, and I am too
>>155429685>>155437418>The word nation entered English around c. 1300 as nacioun, derived from the Old French nacion ("birth, rank, descendants, country"). This term originates directly from the Latin natio (genitive nationem), which literally means "that which has been born" or "birth, origin, breed, stock.">Originally, the term referred to a race of people or a group sharing common ancestry and languageSo yep.. .nation = ethnicity, the people make the nation, the nation doesn't make the people. This is obvious no? :^)
>>155427047>>155427047forgive him, he's just a racist chud. His brain is literally not working properly.
>>155427047Polar bears and grizzly bears can reproduce together yet are obviously different species. What now, gaylord?
>>155427100>Nobody's saying black and white people are different speciesBut they are? Or at least should be classified as such if we were to apply the same rules as we do for all the other mammals.
>>155435783Anon, I...
>>155426089Its made the olympics shitty.
>>155426311>t. Alberto Barbosa
>>155436031ai getting crazy
3 generations should be the minimum for you to be recognized as “x nationality” if your parents aren’t mixed.
>>155440715t. Non-American
The same as the Roman army full of Germanic soldiers. Trying to keep thing afloat out of habit. But it's hollow. I think the Olympics will survive football as the biggest tournament. Because you can reconfigure it with new sports and get rid of the migrants
>>155427762Are you being satirical? Do you know whatbsite you are on? Saying racist shit is part of the culture of this site.
it is like formula 1 racing where everything is bought. Mercedes wins? Where is the driver from and the mechanics?
btw Zion is hafu.Does he count as a foreigner?
>>155426311>confused monkey noises Neat
