Pele>played against amateur plumbers and alcoholics in meme tournaments half the size of today >PR boost for being le gracious black latino manZlatan>won precisely ZERO (0) significant trophies>ZERO (0) world cup goals>is heralded as an all time goat and is hyped into legend status (purely off PR) in America with his time at the galaxy and now on the US WC broadcast, even getting a special segment with Tom Brady called "Conversation with GOATs". Complete farce. Ronaldo >only major international trophy won while on the sideline>won club tournaments on the GOAT club with all time teams >sold out and ran away for oil money >on like a 10 game major tourn scoreless streak with POR>probably the most fragile ego and petty little bitch in sports history
>>155440268his shoulders are so narrow
Why do women find him attractive?
>>155440287>>155440304He's a natural uggo before he was a pioneer of looksmaxxing. Still didn't fix his framecel shoulders and shitty proportions (yeah I look better than him)
I feel taking national team stats for players like Zlatan isn't all that fair because a single great player can't lift a full team of nobodies.When you declare for Sweden, you won't get international trophies. Ever.It would be similar for Salah who comes at one of Egypt's lowest points as a national team.The exact same stuff will be said about Haaland in "how good was he, really" conversations because Norway does not and likely will not have enough of a nationwide scouting and training infrastructure to make a competitive national team in our age. So it will always be "well he never won the Euro or the WC so he can't be that great" while ignoring the fact that a great german, argentinian, brazilian, french or spanish player will be in a NT where every statrer plays for one of the best clubs in the world or at least in their respective leagues while a great norwegian, swedish, danish or austrian player will have to start with 5 guys playing in 1. FC Poopensharten.
>>155440431He never won a CL either, a bunch of Serie A no one cares about. Haaland already won CL
>>155440268>Zlatanfuck that hack. Henrik Larsson was the much better footballer
>>155440268ronaldo is not a fraud and should not be put next to the fraud ibra with his cringy chuck norrise memes
Ronaldo is getting so memed that he's becoming underrated now, zoomers are getting stuck with this image of a 50 year old Washednaldo desperately trying to score goals while Messi is just effortlessly gliding past him
Cristiano Ronaldo is the GOAT influencer and was an elite goalscorer, but he's nowhere near the GOAT of football
Pepe still deserves it because that just what football was back in the day and he totally dominated it
>>155440777yeah, he is washed up now, but the pendulum swings back too hard
>>155440777>>155440940Ronaldo was washed back in 2022. He’s done frankly nothing all time in the wc.
Bait thread
>>155440268>come with me if you don’t wanna score>get in the sloppa
>>155440268Is this a real picture?
>>155440268>only major international trophy won while on the sidelineI know it's the hot thing to shit on Ronaldo right now but he had 3 goals and 3 assists during that euro
>>155440268>won precisely ZERO (0) significant trophies
>>155440268>Mr Champions>'only international trophy won while on the sideline'He's the best ever at the best international club tournament. Cristiano is top 5 of all time
>>155440304money
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>>155440268Zidane, R9, Messi
>>155440431This is true
>ctrl+f "mbappe">zero resultswow you're all fucking retardedwhat a dog shit thread
>>155440777Messi has literally been doping for 20+ years. This can’t be stressed enough. Other players have not taken HGH to artificially boost their musculature, Messi should be asterisked like Bonds. The only reason he isn’t is that soccer is primarily a third world sport (in the classic sense) and browns do not care a lick about fair play.
>>155440940>Penaldolum swings back too hard
>the american mind trying to comprehend the fact that someone who doesn't look like john fatfuck lineback can be a talented athlete
>>155440268>PeleAgree, played in (literal) farmer's leagues. The game we know today didn't start to take shape until the 1980s or thereabouts. >Zlatan I have never heard of him being talked about for goat, probably just Americans taking memes seriously. It's just because he did the MLS and also he's with Henry on Fox (seen videos on youtube) is why you are thinking of him at all. Henry was himself much better than Zlatan - that's not taking anything from Zlatan. >RonaldoA little as I like Ronaldo, it wasn't just a coincidence he was on GOAT teams - they were goat because he was in them. >on like a 10 game major tourn scoreless streak with PORSo if he had retired six years ago like most footballers would he be better goat or does his current play tarnish his legacy for you? For me no matter how shit he gets it doesn't diminish his goat status. If longevity counts for you - years at the top - then noone comes within lightyears of Ronaldo and Messi. >>155449184Meds please.
Zlatan was always dressing room cancer that managers couldn't wait to be rid of, had talent but was never a great player
>Pele>played against amateur plumbers and alcoholics in meme tournaments half the size of todayThen why weren't there others as good as him at the time if it was so easy? Have you thought of that before? Nah you haven't because you have low iq.