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As a new world cup viewer, what is the point of getting 1st place in your group? It seems like you have a potentially easier path to finals if you get 2nd or 3rd
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>>155482564
>English
>new World Cup viewer
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>>155482564
Not necessarily
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In theory it should yield easier opponents in the first knockout round (teams that finished 3’rd)

but sometimes you end up in a harder bracket to reach the final, as you’re surrounded by other 1’st place teams and it might be all the good ones
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>>155482564
>As a new world cup viewer, what is the point of
Money. The answer is always money.
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the knockout matches are always hard,the only difference now is that a bunch of mid teams are going to reach the round of 32
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>>155482564
There unironically have been times where people have mused whether a team that won their first two group games deliberately lost their third, knowing they were guaranteed at least 2nd, and the other groups were looking like the 2nd path might actually be easier.
At the end of the day, what are you going to do? They've already built it in that 1st in any group will play a 2nd or 3rd from another group, whereas 3rd from any group but limping through to knockouts means you play a 1st. That's all the inbuilt advantage you can get.
Unless you have something where teams that finish 1st get a 2nd chance and playoff against each other and the winner of that gets a new life, which is...interesting...perhaps something they could have considered INSTEAD of going up to 48 teams. Like, keeping it at 32 and bringing this in instead. Maaaaaybe. But this Cup is long enough as is and has enough games as is, so what else can they do?
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>>155482693
>Unless you have something where teams that finish 1st get a 2nd chance and playoff against each other and the winner of that gets a new life, which is...interesting...perhaps something they could have considered INSTEAD of going up to 48 teams. Like, keeping it at 32 and bringing this in instead. Maaaaaybe. But this Cup is long enough as is and has enough games as is, so what else can they do?
Should clarify: teams that finish 1st in the groups, but then lose their first knockout get a 2nd chance and playoff against each other and the winner of that gets a new life
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>>155482564
Well, if you don't win the tournament, you at least won the mini game at the beginning, which is your group.
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>>155482608
You've explained it terribly you moron!. The intelligent answer is; by finishing 1st you in theory face shitter sides that finished 2nd. But football doesnt always go to plan does it. Sometimes good teams finish 2nd, or scrape through as a third best place team.

Also the jews rig the draw. Whoever they want in the final they keep on opposite sides of the draw anyway
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>>155482564
Finishing first used to mean playing a 2nd-ranked team in the old and objectively superior format. Now it means that depending on which 8/12 third-placed teams advance, you play a third-placed team or a second-placed team. And some second-placed teams play other second-placed teams, which is dumb but necessary
You can always get unlucky and get a strong opponent who had a poor start into the tournament for whatever reason, but generally speaking, your opponent in the first round should be weaker than you if you have won the group. Especially if it’s a third-ranked team. However, depending on where in the bracket you (and the rest) land, your next opponent or the one after it may be harder. That’s just bad luck. Generally not worth trusting. There always is some debate around purposefully finishing lower, but I think most teams don’t want it out of principle, and it is not without risk either
I think a „perfect“ World Cup would have the old format and use a draw to determine the brackets after the group stage, using the two pots for teams finishing 1st and 2nd. Then there’d be a break of a few days to allow everyone to get their logistics straight. That would be very challenging, of course, and therefore it isn’t done
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can someone redpill me on the hydration breaks?
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>>155482728
There's no draw, the bracket is already set.
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>>155482755
It's so that they can have ad breaks during the match
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>>155482585
Assume every england flag to be indian until he proves the contrary.
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>>155482728
At the end of the day, you're never going to win the cup, or even advance to the last 4/8, if you're not capable of taking on a top tier team. There's ways that you might delay facing a top tier team, but only by a round, and, as you said, comes down to luck.
Which goes back to OP's point, that there really isn't THAT much of an advantage to coming first in your group over second. If you're not capable of beating a top tier, it means you'll be knocked out round after next instead of next round
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>>155482728
>Also the jews rig the draw. Whoever they want in the final they keep on opposite sides of the draw anyway
Massive brainlet post lmfao
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>>155482760
The draw.before the tournament, to chose the teams in the groups.
Fifa chosen teams are never put in groups where they would meet before the final.
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>>155482755
gayest team ever
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>>155482760
There is a draw. Teams are pulled out of an imagery rigged hat and put into groups. The teams Fifa want to reach the later knockout rounds are kept on opposite sides of the draw.

>>155482805
>At the end of the day, you're never going to win the cup
We're the greatest team in the world and winning the world cup okay. Enjoy getting beat by the USA tonight.

>Which goes back to OP's point, that there really isn't THAT much of an advantage to coming first in your group over second. If you're not capable of beating a top tier, it means you'll be knocked out round after next instead of next round
To win a world cup, you're going to have to beat 2-3 decent teams regardless. But your draw can definitely be favourable until those later knockout rounds. Which side of the draw you're on, finishing 1st or 2nd, often does have an impact on how hard your route to that semi final is.
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>>155482755
Amerifat attention span is cooked, fifa came up with the idea to divide the game in 4 short quarters instead of 2 long halves to help brain fried amerifats into following the game.
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>>155482878
What does Australia and England have in common?
Both have gone 60 wins without winning a soccer world cup
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>>155482799
>Indian
>new World Cup viewer
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>>155482755
Sometimes, playing for 45 minutes at insane pace in boiling heat results in players getting tired. The most competitive ones will also willingly play till they collapse from heatstroke, which wouldn’t be a good look for FIFA. So recently, in the past few years, some matches have stopped briefly for players to all go and drink a load of water, so they can perform better, put on a better show, and also be less likely to die. When you put it that way, it makes sense.

But if you’re going to do that for some matches, apparently you have to do it for all matches now, even when it’s cold and raining. Broadcasters have also been using the fact that matches are effectively split into quarters now to sell more advertising. The players also get tactical updates from the managers, and the hydration breaks can totally disrupt the flow of a match. So it’s blatantly bullshit that exists mainly to make more money for the broadcasters and for FIFA, who are famously the second-most corrupt sporting organisation in the universe behind the IOC.
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>>155482755
is this real??
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>>155482564
Bc that's a bad mentality to have. You're gonna have to face a strong team eventually. When you think like that you're admitting that you're not very confident in your team's ability and that ends up reflecting in the games.



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