Why a club allowed to compete in World Cup ??
>>155536451Where's the muslimo solidarity OP ?
>>155536451I don't understand how can a black metal band be so good at football
am I really too retarded to understand this joke or does it just make absolutely no fucking sense?
>>155536712pic rel
I agree.
>>155536733>foreign bornirrelevantif they are moroccans who cares where they are born?
>>155536733>Strongest dual citizenfags in your path
>>155536451>they cant play on my team>they cant play on their teamMake up your minds
>>155536733I get it now, but wouldn't a liberal/leftie talking point be that they should represent their country of birth instead of their country of origin? A couple of days ago some Senegalese politician said that no matter what happens between the match of France - Senegal, that Africa would be the winner. Liberal Reddit fucking exploded on that black man, calling him a racist and saying that he regurgitates right wing talking points like by those of the FN. They're saying that those fine black gentlemen of the French NT are indeed 100% French.
>>155536809More confusingly, they're both nationalist arguments.>they should play for/support the nation their ethnic heritage derives fromThat's the ethnic nationalist position.>they should play for/support the nation that raised them with their tax-funded infrastructureThis is the broad civic nationalist view.And before anyone mocks "civic nationalism" as a contradiction in terms or non-existent, bear in mind it is in fact by far the most successful form of nationalism, to the point where even left-wingers agree with its notions whether they'll associate as one or not.
>>155536936>>they should play for/support the nation that raised them with their tax-funded infrastructureWhat exactly is the argument here? That those brown and black players should feel obligated to play for the nation where they learned and honed their skills? Because those ethnic players owe the country something? Is that really the rationale behind this way of thinking?
>>155536648Muslims are the biggest cunts and always get jealous of morocco. There is no such thing as muslim solidarity. You don't see how saudis make fun of Iraq war deaths. And such on twitter and how [arab] calls other [arab] poorIn this case it's just local indonisian running his mouth from his 1 meter x 2 meter room to get (you)s and act badass, they always larp as nazis and the protectors of the white race on twitter to dickride europeans because they need validation. They are irrelevant trash >>155536809>>155536834these are just racially motivated, whites love to claim credit when it's something good . but once it's a criminal, he's no longer born there, he's an immigrant from Algeria/tunisia/Morocco origines. they love to talk about the origines. They get mad when they get cucked and their ppl choose to play for another country. Literally just modern day slavery. They think they own someone if they gave their parents a few money and living standard that's a bit higher. I can see french people holding a rope and lynching niggers that try to play for cameroon; People hate when people get attached to their "origins" rather than the fake life they gave them. This causes spanish people to seethe so hard btwIt's just hypocrites
>>155537162trvth nvke
>>155537162>>>/pol/ is that way sir
>>155537148>Is that really the rationale behind this way of thinking?It's as simple as that.Most western states have declining birthrates but a strong domestic resistance to reducing the size of the government's tax-funded obligations. The short-term fix to that has, for a long time now, been to import people who, in theory, are expected to become taxpayers. The civic nationalist feels strongly that those imports ought to be paying back the investment put into them that they would not have received in the land of their forebearers.Of course we know that many of those imports do not become taxpayers.
>>155537225I strongly disagree with that argument then. Football clubs, buy, raise and train talent for their own purposes. They're not raising talents so that they can go and play for the NT. If anything, most of the time, they probably wouldn't want them to play international friendlies because their investment (the player) might get injured and his value/performances might drop.The clubs created and paid for those youth training facilities and whatever other facilities. Not the government or in most cases I would say they had minimal involvement.If you have these ethnic players, then get sold for a transfer fee of several tens of millions of euros, how much does the government take from that transfer fee? Wouldn't you say those players paid more than enough back to the government and the country?
>>155537376>They're not raising talents so that they can go and play for the NT.Actually some clubs have done that inadvertently, pic related springs to mind. He now lives in Nigeria again. It's certainly not out of the question - that's how Qatar created a team, and Indonesia had a passport controversy earlier this year.
>>155537162Holy shit
Mediterraneans BTFO whites again. This is a brown and black sport.
kek chuds are so deep into this they are now actively asking for Muhammad Al Morabarat to play for their countries
Friendly reminder that if French had no negroes and ayrabs, they would literally be a fucking bottom tier team. I'm talking Poland level. Their whites are especially fucking garbage. They all went to play rugby or something.
>>155537918Griezman, Giroud, Hernandez, Rabiot.I agree with the general idea that they wouldn't be this unbeatable machine but they'd likely still be very strong and without the knowledge passed from the french and spanish academies of football to african nations through the medium of players and trainers, they would still have an edge i think.
>>155538082>GriezmanVery good player when he's in form.>GiroudNifty little striker. Nothing special>HernandezSuspect defensively, but he's pretty good when he's locked in.>RabiotAverage player who has a good performance every now and then.You are not under any circumstances winning any prizes with a team composed of French whites of this level. The FACT remains that France has not produced any good elite white players in the past 2 decades unlike Germany, England, Spain and us. White people in France do not ball.Make a best French 11 right now, you'll find out it's fucking dogshit.
>>155538185I'd consider some of the ones i mentioned as elite enough, also, France has the better academy. An Mbappé grown in Sénégal or Algeria wouldn't on the radar to begin with, same for Olise, Benzema, Dembélé, etc...I also think that if someone like Victor Osimhen went through the pipeline of the french footballing academy from youth, his current level would be otherworldly.
What would you do about it?I was thinking of a rule where players could only represent countries where they trained in their youth. This could be very harsh on hypothetical cases of players who had to move countries in their youth (say a 10yo kid leaving Belgium to France because his father changed jobs) and would mean players with legitimate reasons to want to represent other countries wouldn't be allowed to, but it'd immediately end mercenary armies and reward countries with good youth development systems.
>>155538293I'd wager that in 20 years, this trend would fade for the current countries who practice it (or rather the ones that managed to transition). Currently, Morocco is building its own Moroccan Academy on top of the knowledge and talent taken from the French, Dutch and Spanish to create their own local pipelines. We already have very promising results in the youger pools.If you want to solve the problem more structurally, it's simple, make it so no one who represents a country from X federation can ever play in clubs from Y federation. But i think it's a bad either regardless of the way you think about it. What's the end result? To me, the end result is a widening of the gaps between UEFA and everyone else, including CONMEBOL because that's where all the funding is, the best players are, and the best academies are. If you want the overall level and competition to increase, keep things as they are.
>>155537162ummahbros... our response?
>>155538551That anon speaks the truth
>>155536733Moroccan in Canada here. Will NEVER EVER consider myself Canadian and pretty much every other Moroccan here thinks the same.
>>155537162There are good morrocans? I have yet to see one
>>155538643cool, looking forward to you going back.
>>155538551The important caveat here is that people online are not representative of the majority. I wonder how many people here think this forum is somehow anything like irl?
>>155538648I'm here, friend! *waves*
>>155538659I work here, pay taxes her, so I'm staying here.Don't worry though I'll go back for vacations.
Scots got real quiet
>>155538882I respect scottfriendsDemoman is my main in tf2
>>155538849oh well if you have kids your taxes will go towards making them canadian. :)
>>155536733>>155536451Why are you all so inconsistent on this shitYou all complain about European-born Africans playing for Europe all the fucking time
>>155538082>the knowledge passed from the french and spanish academiesWhy can't the swamp frogs make use of this precious knowledge? Why is ther team literally 100% noir?
>>155536451Because the opposite, Africa FC (France since 98), worked as well>>155538666>I wonder how many people here think this forum is somehow anything like irl?Way too many and it's not just here but media in general. Look at sudacas and how they think 3 clips on xwitter represent an entire continent
>>155538643Indians think they’re Moroccan now rofl
>>155538943see >>155536936
>>155538648local Moroccans are probably not as cancerous as the diaspora, but I'm not sure with nafris. They certainly suck at creating their own national team without france, spain or benelux having to train and feed them
>>155538643What makes you so proud? Are the sand huts in Canada less impressive?>Enter the gates of hell to abide therein; so evil is the abode of the proud
>>155538953It's not 100% blacks and the reason is multifactorial. On one hand, you're more likely to have migrant communities aspire and seek this kind of fields much more than the native french.So even if there are overall more whites in France, their representation in the pool of people seeking to be a professional footballer is very limited. On the other hand, there was a scandal a few years ago when it was revealed that the government wanted to introduce quotas to increase the white representation which was blocked.Finally, there's a certain profile that subsaharian africans fulfill better than anyone, and it's that of the pacey explosive attacker who can burst into the enemy side really fast, either for progression of the ball before an assist or to score. Genetically, subsaharians are superior at that.If you look at north africa from the lens of footballing genetics, you'll notice that we tend to produce excellent midfielders and fullbacks because we're good and producing people who can cover large distances through the full duration of the match, often keeping them for multiple consecutive matches without replacements. Endurance and sustaining our vo2max is our strength. But we struggle in situations where brute power is more important such as shielding the ball or breaking through a low-block defense where the team we're facing as more athletic and more importantly, all north african nations are retarded at finishing and scoring. None of them is even decent at that. Of course the nafri country where that the least true is Morocco, but that can be attributed to our diverse genetic makeup. We have some ethnic groups carrying a substantial portion of western african genetic makeup and others like Amrabat or Aguerd who exemplify the amazigh endurance i was highlighting before. In 2022, Amrabat played all matches: Croatia, Belgium, Canada Spain, Portugal and France and was the most consistently active on the pitch and the only reason we went this far.
>>155538648if you weren't a low iq goy you would have never met a moroccan in your life. And i would never have to deal wth retards harassing me whenever they see my flag.>>155538771>i'm a raging homosexual and i like to spread my asshole in front of the mirror.That's cool i guess but why are you telling us?
>>155539069We're building the foundation to start rolling out our equally good players from our academy by rebuilding it from the ground up on the model of european academies. There are multiple signs that the endeavour will likely be a success. If it works, we'll be gradually increasing the representation of players who went through a full Moroccan cycle first.Also, fun fact, the 2022 team who went to the final was more balanced. They were 26 players with 14 born outside, but since Yassine Bounou came to Morocco and spent his formative years in our footballing academy, it's more like 13 vs 13.As for players like Nayef Aguerd, En Nesyri, Ounahi or El Yamiq, they were born and trained in Morocco. By the way, our team is now worse on some aspects without them, not better. We needed En Nesyri on the attack and our centerback is now objectively weaker without Aguerd who's currently injured.
>>155536809Yes, they should not play at all unless they move to their country of origin.
>>155539511>who went to the SEMI*final*
>>155539609Bitch you're not good enough to stop us playing for who we want to play.
>>155536451MashaAuloh OP, you don't saporr da ummah? YOU KAFIR!!!>>155536733Diversity is our strength, MashaAuloh >>155539511>>155539636HOLY CHIMPING MONGOLOID SLAVIC BERBER MOOR MUTT NAFRI!
>>155542797I dont care that much about Religion
Bump
>>155536733Now imagine if all those guys went to play for Spain, France, Neds, Belgium, and Canada.
>>155538643Same here. >>155539088I'm proud of the fact that my ancestors owned nigger slaves for one. Canadians cry about having racist ancestors.>>155538934Not him but even after 3 generations, Moroccans still don't see themselves as the respective European nationality when you look at the diaspora in countries like Belgium or Holland.
>>155547928>I'm proud of the fact that my ancestors owned nigger slaves for one. Canadians cry about having racist ancestors.Classic Black on Black crime>Even after 3 generations, Moroccans still don't see themselves as the respective European nationality when you look at the diaspora in countries like Belgium or Holland.Holy Berber Mudhut & Linen tent dweller pride! Why do you even proud about this? there will be a day in not very distant future Allah gonna make these whites BTFO your ummah, Paki-Jeets, Negroes out of Europe back to your whatever dusty shithole ~ that day Wallahi you Islam going to cry the most.
Every country that disagrees with the idea of representing the country where your ethnic identity originates from should just abolish dual citizenships and stop whining. If you swear by civic nationalism then go all the way and stop giving your residents the option to be a citizen of a place they don't live in
>>155549181You're a Temu Chinese, trying to talk shit when most people aren't even aware you exist. Sit down.>make these whites BTFO your ummahI don't care about Islam but let's be honest, Christianity made whites top tier cucks. They'll never rise up to destroy the nons. They were based when they were too illeterate to understand the teaching sof Rabbi Yeshu Moshiach Amalak. One can hope the Pakis get obliterated though, they deserve every horrible thing possible because of the grooming gang shit.Heil Hitler, nigger.
>>155550176>You're a Temu ChineseYou're literally a nigger Berber whitewashed Slavic by Arab Mongoloid >Most people aren't aware of youYou don't aware how stupid your own ummah that's why you left your Goatfuckernistan..Nigger you talking on imageboard proud of being nigger Africoid while living in Anglo Cucknada land...you, sit the fuck down>I don't care about IslamYeah classic trash Arabfuck ironically living in the prosper West knowing their stupid ancestor living in dessert eating dogs sand lizard and fuck camel>Paki deserved every horrible thingNigger Ahmed Chamakhoui, Westoid look at you the same as they look at Paki, you will definitely get obliterated alongside turban wearing Hindu Sikh Jeet Brampton Khalistan if you don't go back to your Marocc land soon , your garbage ummah don't look different much as the Hindu.Kill The Jews, and Heil Hitler.
>>155550176>Most people aren't aware of youShakira has more wealth than whole 2 decades GDP of Marocco lmao
>>155538643based, almost all my family that lives in europe comes here for summer.
>>155538648fuck you eat shit and die faggot, ignore this homosexual>>155538771
