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Pic should be a goals.

Offsides are dumb, they should be eliminated for more goals or at least fix them in a way if a defender ovelaps with an attacker then he is onside. Canceling goals because an arm or knee is ahead is dumb.
I don't trust those FIFA 3D images they show.
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halt die Fresse
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>>155598521
>Pic should be a goals.

It's not over the line. At least soccer uses a round ball
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>>155600882

A semi stitched pointed prolate spheroid is a higher level of civilizational sophistication.
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>>155598668
sie bleibt geöffnet
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>>155598521
>Offsides are dumb, they should be eliminated for more goals or at least fix them in a way if a defender ovelaps with an attacker then he is onside.
The offside rule is good as it is because it keeps the challenge of having to overcome the last line of defense to score. Attackers should be worried about camping inside this line, because they can be offside by a millimeter or so. This way the attacker has to shoot through defense (requires good skill) or break through the line of defense himself carrying the ball (requires good skill).

If the rule was permissive attackers would just go the easier way that is to camp a bit ahead of the last defender, ruining the challenge that is breaking through defense. You want to reward cheap, cheesy tactics
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>>155600882
should use a square ball.
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>>155601543
Perhaps but it makes judging if the ball completely crossed the line much more complex. Not that it's an issue in football since "forward progess" means you merely need to touch the line to score
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>>155598521
You have to draw the line somewhere.
And it will cause seethe no matter what
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>>155601543
nah rugby's shite mate
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>>155598521
>Pic should be a goals
Japan has proved this rule is fair for both sides.
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>>155603201
I understand the general incentive but they could stand to be more permissive. Like this is just pointlessly strict.
>You were standing on side when you received a well positioned pass but unfortunately your stance put your left ass cheek behind our precious defense
What's the reason for measuring by any part that can score as opposed to the feet? You're as near enough as makes no difference for encouraging skilled play, the defense has been broke through, but you can't score because we said so. Seems pedantic and makes every attack hesitant and pussyfooted, worsening the sport
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>>155605105
The alternative is to subjectively judge whether it was "close enough" to onside, which would be retarded
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>>155603201
>requires good skill
except nobody can demonstrate good skill since games are all low scoring, so obviously the rule is too aggressive.

I blows my mind that a sport where a goalie only gets 5 saves a game is somehow enjoyable. In hockey a goalie has to make 20-30 saves a game.
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why are some people so pressed about rules being enforced as written?
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>>155600882
>It's not over the line
are you sure?
I think we need microscope to figure that one out
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Offsides rule should be if one foot is still behind the defenders then it's ok. So if most of your body is past the defenders but you still have one foot aligned, then it's on-side.
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>>155605207
The alternative is your feet retard the things you plant in the ground to play, that any reasonable person would consider to be your position
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>>155605105
if it's consistently like that then too bad
and since it's a computer judge then it should be consistently like that
unless some ultra nerd can prove that they rig it by pixel analysis
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>>155605207
no you can just include a buffer zone dummy
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>>155605261
Low IQ people have trouble understanding that leaving things up to subjective interpretation only causes more trouble.
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>>155598521
Die, baittard
>>155605261
Autism. And being new to the sport and therefore acting arrogant.
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>>155605261
because the rule is too stingy and needs to be loosened up a bit.
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>>155605261
because said rules are exactly why 90% of all football matches are just 0-0 semen slurpers
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>>155605375
loosen up, so what, 50% of the ball over the line should be a goal? then you will STILL have this same problem to decide: "is it only 49% over?"
only solution then is to end VAR
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTqj8eftXg
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>>155605261
Because it's fucking gay and made several games into slurping draws

If half the players are in the box and an attacker is in front of the defender by an ass crack clearly they are not having a meaningful advantage
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>>155605508
Then you open a whole new can of worms, where the referee's subjective interpretation of "meaningful advantage" holds more weight than the actual events. Preventing that from happening as much as possible is the whole reason rules and legal systems exist.
[spoiler]You don't get to score just because you are losing and your fee fees where hurt. Play better next time retard.[/spoiler]
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>>155605719
Nice spoiler retard
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The people in this thread should try playing the sport sometime
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>>155598521
>at least fix them in a way if a defender ovelaps with an attacker then he is onside.

That has literally already been changed
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>>155605428
Not really, hockey has offside calls constantly and averages 6 goals per game
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>>155606296
Hockey used to have soccer-style offside rules until we decided that they were ruining the game and fixed them 100 years ago
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>>155606449
Didn't hockey just not have forward passing at all? You were only allowed to pass backwards
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>>155598521
>Offsides are dumb, they should be eliminated for more goals
You have never seen children play football, have you? Without the offside rule, after each failed attack the defending team will kick the ball all the way to the left behind attacker on the opposite end of the field who can now engage the keeper 1 versus 1.
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>>155606861
Couldn't you just keep that as offside but there's no offside within the offensive zone?
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>>155606895
I would propose a middle way between your suggestion and this >>155603201 suggestion. If an attacker is obviously camping behind the last defender, it's offside, but if he's more or less on the defending line but his foot sticks out a little, I wouldn't count that as offside.

I don't think that VAR is fair when the difference between counting a goal is a matter of extreme detail.
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>>155606528
Yeah and then passing forward was only allowed on your side of half. Then they added forward passing everywhere but you couldn't pass between zones. Then you could pass from your zone into your half of the neutral zone. Then they finally made it to the current rules 20 years ago.
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>>155610412
That's why no one watches hockey
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>>155603201
Another thing that makes offsides essential is that otherwise the defending team would be incentivized to be very close to the goal all the time, since they wouldn't have any assurance that the adversary couldn't score. The game would be way too defensive and boring.

Still, offsides should only count when the adversary is a full body closer to the goal than the last defender. Canceling scores because of mere centimeters (like what happened to Endrick) is stupid.
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>>155605228
>In hockey a goalie has to make 20-30 saves a game.
Sunday league football tier, no wonder no one cares about hockey
>>155610914
Retard
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>still kvetching
An offside is an offside. If you don't want to be offside don't risk it by trying to be in line with the defence.
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>>155610685
retarded nigger, ill come play football with your skull. Ill cripple you and rape your retarded shitskin whore of a mother to death in front of you.
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>>155604901
>You have to draw the line somewhere.
Maybe blur it at the edges?
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>>155610685
It's unwatchable because of all the breaks and ads but there's no problem with the sport itself
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>>155605105
What you are depicting is exactly how it's supposed to be. I want attackers punished for waiting this close to the last defender. I want them afraid of having their left asscheek offside so they should wait further behind the defender.
>You're as near enough as makes no difference for encouraging skilled play, the defense has been broke through, but you can't score because we said so.
That isn't breaking defense. You are supposed to break defense with the ball in your feet, not by waiting for your mate to pass you the ball. It's easy to position yourself in a game where defenders aren't allowed to touch you. The hard thing is keeping control of the ball or shooting accurately.
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agreed. What's the point of the VAR if they are just not going to show up the controversial call lmao (no offside for Uruguay's third goal)
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>>155614803
see >>155614076
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>>155603201
Could be interesting if they changed offsides to happen only inside the box instead of half field.
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>>155605105
Rules are... being followed properly?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS IS NOT FAIR!!! I WANT GAMES TO BE LIKE MY NIGGERBALL!
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Imagine being unable to understand objectivity. Sorry it was too close for you to tell from your TV.

OPs image only exists because we have the technology to objectively measure this shit.

>why get things right, when you can get them wrong?
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>>155615337
We use the same technology and concepts to judge touchdowns in American football, OP and others are just morons.
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>>155610685
maybe for shitskins like you
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>>155605300
>>155605331
Doesn't make a difference, wherever you draw the line players are going to cut it as close as they can, and you'd have the same issue
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>>155605228
Association football is a different type of sport. Scores are the peaks of a continuous struggle, with important plays occuring throughout the game. Players get to show their skill during these moments and they are enjoyable on their own. This Cabo Verde vs Uruguay match only had 2 saves, ended in a tie and was one of the most enjoyable games of the tournament so far
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>>155616814
Based
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>>155598521
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go sleep
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>>155598521
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>>155598521
>I don't trust those FIFA 3D images they show.

I too don’t.



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