What does spee think about players who choose not to play for the country they were born in?
>>155723679the real problem is that players who go through the academy systems of western nations, which are supported by government sports grants, take spots away from natives then go on to play for their own countrywestern nations are literally paying tax dollars to support the sports programs of third world countries
>>155723959Let's be honest, that's really not such a big deal. The majority of players who go on to play for their parents/grandparents country instead of the western nation they were born in were too shit to make the first team anyway.
We need NTs drawn along ethnic lines for non-New World teams! You take a DNA test: if you score outside the national cluster, you aren't allowed to represent such a country. People who don't really fit in any country that'd care to call them up can go to some newly created NTs; e. g., "Eubonia" for half European, half blacks.
>>155723679>Germany, England, France, Spain, Netherlands et al only have 1 or 2 foreign playerslooooooooooool. lmao even.
>>155724015the majority of every academy program never do anything at all, it's about opportunity cost. Every spot that is taken by a foreigner is lost potential.
>>155724192>taken by a foreignerExcept they aren't they were born and live there they just play for these African countries cause they are too shit to play for the euro country.
>>155723679jej
>>155723679In our case, with a brazilian decides to play for another country, is simply because he wouldn't make the cut and play on the squad anyway. So I don't care
>>155724167Yes, as it turns out, plenty of ngubus are actually born in those countries. Who would've thought former colonial empires just pre-imported a bunch of niggers decades in advance so they could start the domestication process early.>>155724192But it's literally not. If they succeed they'll play for their home(western) nation, if they fail they'll switch to their parents or grandparents nation just to get a chance to play. >>155724257Do you think Eduardo Da Silva would've been any good if he hadn't gotten his legs chopped? I'm still not sure if he decided to play for >us out of genuine love for his wife and the country or just because he couldn't get into Brazil's squad.
>it’s bad when players play for the country they were born in>it’s bad when players play for their country of originCan spee pick one narrative already
>>155724352yes, these "players" shoouldn't be in our countries to begin with
>>155723679>Japan's only foreign player was born in the US>Zion SuzukiWe live in a simulation.
>>155724352These guys just want everyone to be ethnically(by this they mean white or Asian ect) from the region which is dumb but whatever minus the new world because it's basically all mutts.
>>155724220>>155724323That's just not true, and even if it were there are plenty of players who mature after international selection. You're missing the point. You're thinking about this as if every player has some kind of set destiny. If an academy decides to take a foreign player into an academy over a native, that foreigner is now being invested into. Every time this choice is made, potential is lost. What does that player do after he retires? Former players who have strong emotional ties to their country are more likely to also serve their country with coaching and mentorship. All of these small relationships that hold up a program are lost because of a silly miopic, and frankly defeatist view of "uhh well if they're good they play for the country and if not they play for the worse country". In any case you're doing a good job demonstrating why this is just another thing that's incapable of fixing in our new beautiful multicultural society.
>>155724828Yes, which is why the team that's most willing to invest into players with foreign parents, France, is losing so much talent and opportunity.Oh wait no, they're heavy favourites.
>>155725366Now go ahead and try to explain why that non-argument addresses the point I'm making.
Friendly reminder that Diogo Costa was born to two Portuguese parents, has a Portuguese name and has been living in Portugal since his teens.Anyone who thinks he should play for Switzerland over Portugal is a retard.
>>155727960Because the cost of potentially missing out on players who go on to play for their parents/grandparents country is massively offset by just having a much wider pool of talent to pick from. And the best of that talent will end up playing for the home country anyway.Academies exist to train players, true, but a more important role is filtering out players to find the best ones.
They should all have their citizenship stripped and be deported.>Over a football tournament Gigachad? Bit much isn't it?What football tournament?
>>155723679Malinchistas
>>155723679I don’t think eligibility should be based on birth alone
>>155724444That’s a minority opinion and mostly not genuinely held by actual /sp/artans
>>155729279True. This board just gets overwhelmed by /pol/tards every time the world cup is on.
>>155727960It’s sport and winning is the most importance thing. If you have a different view then that’s fine but it is what it is, it’s why your private rugby schools give scholarships to islanders. What he’s saying is spot on
>>155728529All Anglos should be deported back to Germany and Denmark or wherever else they crawled out from
Its weird when it doesn't reflect the actual population. If your fans are all white and your team is all black something feels off idk. Like if the Ghana team was a bunch of white guys
france would be dog shit team without blacks and you know it
>>155730227______Himbert - Lepaul - Perrin_________Rabiot - Caqueret____________ChotardTruffert - Rouault - Le Normand - Joly____________Chevalier
>>155730227Sure, but the blacks are eligible for France, so they play for them. Sorry Pepe le Pew from Le Chateau United isn't good enough to make it
>>155730667meh
>>155729521>>155728203None of this has anything to do with government sports grants.
As long they have heritage is fine, in fact i think it's better. But it depends, is the theritage minimum, like the brazilians that play for Italy? I don't like those cases, or even worse the player has no heritage, was not born in the country but changes nationality becasue he's been living/playing there for a while.
>>155731262How does it not? Government sports grants are given to promising young players so obviously having a wider pool of talent is better if it ultimately lets you construct a better team(even if a huge portion of those grants is "wasted" on players that end up being shit and playing for another country).
>>155731282In Italy if you have one Italian ancestor you are an Italian and they will give you citizenship. It’s called consanguinity, they don’t care where you were born or anything
>>155730227Every single French player is French. Doesn’t matter if he’s black
>>155732992Actually, 3 French players are not French.
>>155732564It isn't even "wasted" as it boosts competition by giving your "enemies" somewhat capable teams making the cup better and also your players as they have more challenging ops to train with.As you can see most of imports happen from weaker football nations importing players from those programs with the exceptions mainly being border nations.Would sure be an interesting match against fucking curazao or cap verde if they couldn't cannibalize some 3rd rung athletes from those programs.
>>155728114he has been living in Portugal since he was 7yoso he was raised here from an early age as wellbeing born abroad to portuguese parents doesnt make you portuguese if you were raised abroad as well, just like raphael guerreiro that avec shitter, he was french, spoke only french, live always in france, should nevwr have been allowed in our ntsame as has the macaco zucas, like matheus whatever currently
>>155734099coração is its pwn thing, theyre literally a part of the netherlands, of course most of their players are dutch
