>Score all the important goals for brazil>hated by the rest of the countryPoland is the Christ of EuropeThey are the Christ of Brazil and Latin America
>b-but they were born in SPyeah lol and france's team isn't african because they were born in paris
they're not that ugly
chikaner spam thread, do not do the mistake of engaging with it
>>156003003>here's your white eyetalian southern cone gringo
>>156002375We do it bc is the right thing to do no thanks asked
Which free VPN do you use, cleitinwagner?You shitty monkey from the Northeast
it really do be like that
>>156008885kek>>156008354>seething this hard about canonzilians, the representatives of your country on the world stage
>>156008885favstian.Thanks chikaner for bringing awaraness to the nordestino qvestion.
What happens up there anyways
>>156009175poverty
>>156009322I was reading a lot of Hue history and I didnt know you had your own little versions of the Civil War where they tried seceding and apparently the northern half had a huge slave system
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>>156002375Fuck is thats anyway? Rio?
>>156009444Northeast Brazil aka the Mexico of Brazil
>>156009175that's where brown and black people come from in brazil.
>>156009434>regions with more people tend to win morewho would have thought
>>156009076>nordestinocanonzilians*representatives of your nation state and continent on the world stage>>156009421oh i didnt know that kek, they're really like the dixie of latin america
>>156009175Poverty, crime, underdevelopment. And I don't blame Noderstinos nor hate them. Brazil owes a lot to them historically. Things are like that because of economical and historical reasons, not because they have "inferior genes" or something like that.
>>156011141>Brazil owes a lot to them historically
>>156011141Is there a reason why its poorly developed compared to the South
>>156011141>not because they have "inferior genes" or something like that.dont read tomas sewell on the difference betwens black americans from north and south kek
>>156011345One great reason is that they never went through an industrialization process. Things remained almost feudal there since the colonial times. >>156011305Deep down you know it's true. >>156011528Same bullshit as always.
>>156011772>Things remained almost feudal there since the colonial times.the curse of being colonized by backwards iberian retards who hated the enlightenment
>>156011345Be me, gaúcho from Rio Grande do Sul (southern Brazil)Anon asks why Northeast Brazil is stuck in poverty while the South/Southeast (SP, PR, SC, RS) are economic powerhousesIt's a masterclass in economic geography and colonial path dependencyLet's look at the actual history and land distribution models:The Northeast: The Sugar & Latifúndio TrapFirst area settled by Portugal. Implemented massive sugarcane plantations owned by a tiny elite and worked by slave labor.Zero incentive to build roads, schools, or local markets because everything was exported. When global sugar prices crashed, the region was left with massive inequality, no middle class, and zero local consumer market.Santa Catarina & Paraná: The European Homestead ModelVery similar to my own state (RS). 19th-century government gave small plots of land (minifúndios) to German, Italian, and Polish immigrants.Because they owned their land, they actually cared about the yield. They built local roads, schools, and cooperatives.Santa Catarina is now a manufacturing beast (textiles, machinery) with the lowest poverty rates in Brazil because it grew out of thousands of thriving small family-owned hubs rather than a few massive, lazy estates.São Paulo: The Coffee Boom & Industrialization RocketSP had large estates too, but with a massive twist: Coffee.In the late 1800s, coffee made SP filthy rich. Unlike sugar lords, coffee barons invested their profits into massive rail networks to move the crop to the ports.When slavery was abolished, SP didn't just abandon workers; they paid wages to millions of Italian/Japanese immigrants.This created a massive local market of people who actually had money to buy things. When the 1930s global crash hit, SP used that massive rail infrastructure and existing wealth to instantly transition into the industrial capital of South America.
>>156011772Name one injustice that the rest of the country commited to Merdeste.>MUH REPUBLICA CAFÉ E LEITEI hope this is not your argument.
>>156012503Canudo's massacre.
>>156012404We had this problem in the South with Cotton, Spanish America also the same with their sugar plantations. The climate affected development where it was much better for Euros to migrate to cooler areas and wouldnt work in inhospitable environments for cash crops
>>156012650Guerra do Contestado.
>>156002375THIS was the Northeast all this time!? That's clearly just East. The real Northeast is that one up in, you know, the northeast that looks like mini India or something
>>156012935Do you REALY wanna get into this, Mr Midwest?
>>156003003Marchinelli is from southeast thoughbeitever>>156011345Hot, wasnt industrialized and the gov helped the european refugees that went to the far south
>>156012935We call one region Southeast, having a Southeast and a Northeast sounds catchier than Southeast and East.
>>156012678Based and history-pilled anon. You hit the nail on the head.It’s exactly the Acemoglu/Robinson thesis on extractive vs. inclusive institutions. Climatology literally dictated the socioeconomic DNA of the Americas.In Brazil, the Portuguese actually tried to force the tropical plantation model everywhere at first, but geography corrected them:The Tropical North/Northeast: Perfect climate for sugarcane. It became Brazil's version of the American Deep South or the Caribbean. Massive slave-labor imports, immense wealth for 50 families, absolute misery and lack of infrastructure for everyone else.The Temperate South/Southeast: The climate here in Rio Grande do Sul, Santa Catarina, and São Paulo was useless for sugar or cotton. It didn't yield immediate "cash crop" gold for the crown.Because the climate was cooler and more hospitable to Europeans (resembling southern/central Europe), the government later used the "Homestead" approach—just like the US did with the Homestead Act of 1862 in the West. They needed family farmers to clear the land, build towns, and secure the borders.So, just like the US partition:Northeast Brazil = Deep South cotton culture (Plantation, extraction, legacy of massive inequality).South Brazil = Midwest/Rust Belt (Family homesteads, early industrialization, infrastructure built for local trade rather than just shipping raw materials away).Geography is basically destiny when it comes to early colonial blueprints. Cheers for the insight, anon.
>>156013293European refugees had to develop their lands. 500 years later and Merdeste lands are still not developed, and is everyones fault but themselves?
>>156014142(You) and go back to /bra/ pls
>>156014359Its true tho, and I appreciate the thread you created out of seethe kek
>>156002375Martinelli is from São Paulo, if the name couldnt already tip you off
>>156014142Absolute smooth-brain viralata take. Imagine failing high school history this badly."European refugees" didn't just magic their way into development. The Imperial Government literally gave them free land, paid for their passage, gave them tax exemptions for years, and provided tools and seeds to clear the land. It was a massive, state-funded colonization project to secure borders because the Empire didn't want black or mestizo people owning land after slavery.Ever heard of the Lei de Terras of 1850? The government literally made it illegal to just occupy land, forcing poor Northeasterners and former slaves to become landless sharecroppers for oligarchs, while hand-delivering colonial plots to Europeans in the South.The Northeast wasn't "lazy for 500 years." For the first 250 years, it generated 90% of Brazil’s wealth. The problem is that it was an extractive economy. The wealth wasn't reinvested locally; it went straight to Lisbon, and later to finance Rio and São Paulo. The region was left with a feudal system of "coronéis" who intentionally kept the population illiterate and dependent on them for water and food to control their votes (the famous "Indústria da Seca").If you give one group subsidized private property and institutional support (South) and leave the other group locked in a literal semi-feudal system with artificial droughts and zero education (Northeast), no shit you get different outcomes 150 years later.Go back to school, anon. Relying on "muh genetics" memes just shows you don't understand basic institutional economics.
>>156014594Ur too smart for this board anon
>>156011141>Brazil owes a lot to them historicallythese retards keep voting for more gibs, everyone half decent already left for the south, we don't owe them shit
>>156013232>tfw actually from the Midwestpic related, I don't know what's weird about that designation though
>>156014708>if they just vote for the candidates Bolsonaro tells them to the land will miraculously become a Switzerland
>>156012650wish it was Canudo's genocide
>>156014910>bolsonaro out of nowhereit's a coincidence crime skyrocket after Lula and his goons started winning elections there
>>156014594>European refugees" didn't just magic their way into development. The Imperial Government literally gave them free land, paid for their passage, gave them tax exemptions for years, and provided tools and seeds to clear the land. Not every immigrant received all of these privileges, alot of them were brought to work in conditions similar to slavery, where they were put on ever increasing debt to pay for their travel, accomodations and toolsAlso, land was cheap as dirt for every 'Free'man for a long time. Northeasterns simply dont have the faustian spirit of southerns. To this day southerns are developing lands in the most isolated regions of this country.But Im sure every well off white southern you see was simply handed everything they have 150 years ago. Their culture, intelect, hard work were all given to them by the Monarchy.Is just a coincidence that other white regions in the world are equaly developed
>>156014910renan santos went to maranhão told its ok to put traqsh on the streets people on youtube were telling me it was not the politician faults, you cant argue with leftists lol
>>156011345There is another thig that has been missed by other branons replying to you.When the Portuguese crown fled Napoleon and turned Rio into the Portuguese Empire's capital, most of the money from the northeastern sugar plantations were funneled to the development of Rio, while Salvador wasn't developed just the same.
>>156014558he's a pardo from the north east, that's like saying france's team is from paris lol
>>156010580What an absurd statement
>>156014708Imagine being this economically illiterate.Calling them "retards" for voting for their own material interests is top-tier irony.Let's look at actual game theory and economic reality, anon:For generations, Northeasterners were kept under the boot of local oligarchs (the Coronéis) who controlled access to water, jobs, and basic survival. If you didn't vote for the local landlord’s puppet, you starved.Then came direct federal welfare, rural electrification, and massive cistern infrastructure.For the first time in history, a poor family in the semi-arid Sertão didn't have to beg the local oligarch for a bucket of water or a bag of beans. The federal government bypassed the local feudal lords.Why do they vote for PT/Lula? It’s not "socialist brainwashing," it’s basic customer loyalty and risk management. If a political faction literally built the infrastructure that saved your family from historical starvation, you vote for them. It’s the most logical, self-serving vote possible.Their only real blind spot is the Legislature. They vote for a left-wing President because of federal programs, but then they elect the same old right-wing/Centrão oligarchic congressmen locally because those guys control the municipal jobs and resources ("emendas parlamentares"). It’s a classic system of split-ticket survival.And "muh corruption"? Every single infrastructure boom in history—from the US railroads in the 19th century to South Korea's massive industrialization—was fueled by astronomical levels of corruption, cronyism, and kickbacks. Welcome to real-world developmentalism.By injecting cash directly into the poorest regions, you create a massive internal consumer market. When a guy in the Northeast gets buying power, he buys appliances manufactured in São Paulo, food processed in the South, and logistics from the Southeast. It prevents the entire country from collapsing into a single, overpopulated mega-slum around São Paulo.
>>156013232WE literally have a midwest anon, you probably mistranslate it to center-west though.
What do you mean a part of their country is called Poland?
>>156015202Nta but the American midwest isnt even in the west, that's probably the joke. Their region names are retarded
>>156015192brazliians told me that rio and SP were 100% white until nordestinos moved there
>>156015045Renan Santos doesn't blame northeasterns though, his whole discourse is blaming local feudal lords, like mayors and oligarchs. Just like >>156015201 is saying.Thing is, in a sate level, PT became the local oligarchs or worse, in Bahia's case, interbred with it.
>>156015192Wasn't the North primarily ex-slaves that moved down south for employment. Actually are there any "Whites" in the North
>>156015202>WE literally have a midwest anonno you don't, you don't have blonde blue eyed germans/scandi mixes like we do.
>>156015343i am telling you about the population defending shit tier local policies, how can you fix that? its africa tier where populations start to put trash on the streets...
>>156015360>chikaner being a illiterate retardstay classy
>>156014910No duuude u dont get it if muh covid didnt happen the below freezing temperature IQ retard would have totally turned brazil into sweden and its them heckin nordeschinos fault that we didnt get a second term of him doing a daily lacradinha on jornal nacional for his retarded chud audience and selling the country even more for foreign pedophiles and satanic centrão demons
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>>156015403you tried to sneak that in for white people points and got shot down, stay mad and devoid of northern european genetics
>>156015301Stop taking the opinions of retarded chuds on /pol/ of what happens in this country
>>156015401>how can you fix that?The boomers and millenials are a lost cause, the younger northeasterns are already conscious enough that they got trapped in a hook, line and sinker scam. Where the federal/state governments handle the gibs while the local feudal lords and lawmakers handle the local power enforcement. Funny enough, it is the cartels moving up north that is going to bring this power structure down, since it's outside power dominating whole villages in the northeast and spreading panic among well-intentioned zoomers. Just like Cangaço did back then.
>>156015350Slavery was the same all across Brazil, there wasn't a north-south division like in the US>Actually are there any "Whites" in the NorthYes, of course
>>156015641no it wasn't, my hometown literally never had slaverybut i should have already closed this chikaner thread with a bunch of redditors going on about how merdestinos dindu nuffin
>>156015641Bahia got the most blacks due to the sugar plantations though. Also since the sugar plantations started before the coffee ones, just due to a longer timeframe of constant slave influx, Bahia got overrun with slaves.
>>156015677I mean in a macro sense. I'm sure a lot of towns in Bahia never had slavery either
>>156015677Most younger Nordestinos hate PT and the local oligarchs with a passion though. Just don't expect them to vote for a retard like Bolsonaro.
>>156015727Can I kiss you?
>>156015748Are you big-tittied petite redhead?
>>156015680We have the genetic data, there's no need to speculate about anything
>>156015766I look like the guy from The Bear
>>156015269it's not in the west so that's exactly why it's the midwestalso because it's not in the east eitherit's not retarded
>>156015809I hardly doubt a city like São Jose do Rio Preto has 10% blacks ancestry, the only black thing I saw in there was the name of the city.
>>156015892>a city with more than 500k people in the wealthiest state of the country can't have more than 10% black admixtureYou are deluded
>>156015892Race-mixing.
>>156015809>NatalWonder what goes on there
Are you idiots still falling for this stupid bait?
>>156015677No one is talking about your hometown schizo>>156015892Genetic ancestry doesnt mean necessarily you are black or brown. My skin is white and my genetic facial features are med european but i have african ancestry too
>>156015985More indigenous ancestry, I guess
>>156016002they'll reply to you saying that "taking his baits is funny". brazilians are fucking hopeless man
Have you considered i have been using sage this whole time, contrary to you that is still bumping his thread lmfao
>>156015809>SENHAAARAR WE ARE WHITE IN SOUTHERN BRAZIL
>>156016168the only thing that matters is number of replies. you guys look like desperate for attention
>>156016287Akshually the only thing that matters is his thread being on page 6, now stop bumping it my nigga
thread goes up though
ask chikaner to post a timestamped pic of his hand and he'll go quiet
