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HOW'S YOU HEAD DUCKIES?HOW'S YOUR FUCKING HEAD?https://youtu.be/O5K4m5qoQro?si=2rcAc9rkbyvqtJq1
Is this the thread?
first for mr.bieber
>>156192417Happy for Leo.
>>156192322can the ducks not simply pay him correctly?
>>156192650they'd prefer lemonade
>>156192666american lemonade is pretty good, satan
MESSI FRAUD STATUS REAPPLIED KWAB
messi? well clean her up, cuck
Messinghispantsi about to lose to a sand bar in the ocean.
>>156192650no they have to be turbo jews
somehow /hoc/ will blame mcdavid for messi's fuck up
>>156192650Now that the offer sheet is signed their only options are $18M aav or $0
>>156194321
babcock's gonna kill this nigga walman lmao
>>156193571>>156194492
/hoc/ will die when Cabo Wheever wins
>>156194321and rightfully so.
>laffs
>>156196701I don’t even know who the other two people in the picture are I only recognize bob
>>156196701Flames are similarly cucked
>>156194336but they could have paid him before? or maybe i don't know how offers work.
>>156196880>muh flamesMindbroken
>>156196810Stolarz (backup goalie) and Lorentz (4th liner that didnt even play in the playoffs for Florida)
>>156196921They were allowd to sign him starting July 1 of 2025 but the GM said "lol, I don't negotiate during the season"
that was incredibly rare but pure soccer kino. messi once again proving that big stars can be goodunlike mackwabinnon and mckwabid
remember when danny briere's son pushed somebodys wheelchair down the stairs? a real jej moment if you ask me
Imagine being Pat Verbeek and going to your owner and saying >You know that player we could have signed for $9m annually but I cut off negotiations months ago to try and save a couple bucks?>yeah well I need you to pay $40,000,000 cash to this player over the next 365 days. how do you not get fired for such a blunder and for being so inept?almost like to save his job he would have to tell the owner the player is not worth it and they will take the picks just to save face.
>>156198960Maybe the only is gay and has an old man blowjob fetish. Outside of that, I'd say he is fucked.
>>156198344almost choked in the preliminaries...mcgodvid however is immortal until the final game
>>156198939When I get wasted, I walk 3 miles to Taco Johns and get a burrito, depending on what time of the day it is. When briere's spawn gets wasted, he does stupid shit like this. What an asshole.
>>156198960maybe he should be lower than 3rd place all things considered
sharks and ducks have lost the offseason pretty bigly
>>156199475>col 2nd placeAh, now I get the Billy G. seethe. dullass did the same thing when robobitch got 2nd to Kaprizov for the Calder.
>>156199475>Jarmo got 3 votes>joined midseason and didnt do anything but rent Luke Schenn
wtf bros: Ice Spice and Spiderman linked uphttps://x.com/primenova59/status/2072842983091716126also:>rags
San Jose are now contenders with the big moves they made
>need $14m for smith>need $20m for celebrini>need $9m for misa>need $12m for stenberg>need $9m for dickinsonshorks how we feeling these next 3 years
>>156199985Yeah, they're window of "RIGHT FUCKING NOW" has a year before they lose all of their RFAs to offer sheets
>this is how flamiacs see themselves
>>156199475Reporters like to praise GMs that grind RFAs on contracts but it always ends poorly
Ducks matched
>>156199985that's grier's gamble which will make him look like a genius or a fraud depending on the outcome
this is quite an exciting offseason for the duckies
>>1561999851980s: islanders vs. oilers2030s: sharks vs. habs
ducks would be absolutely retarded to match take the 4 1st round picks and take that $18 million to re-sign Cutter and Seneckeflyers and ducks are 2 promising young teams on the come up, and one of them is gonna be crippled by this move.
>>156200497Just think, it's not over for them yet.
i'm pretty sure they know what they're doing + you're not as smart as you think
>>156200677my internal monologue
Remember when Aho was offer sheeted and it was match and he went on to win the cup and the team that offer sheeted him didn't? That was fun.
>>156200141smith's probably not getting 14 unless he goes nuts, but regardless they have accountants.
>>156200718I remember even further back when he was almost traded for EP40
the redblacks' special teams is so shit holy moly
>>156200771>smith's probably not getting 14 unless he goes nutsLeo Carlsson is the highest paid player in the NHL. You are living in a new world now anything is possible.
>>156200718let me ask you this. would you rather played for Claude Julien or this guy?
>>156200823it's REDBLACKS
>>156200861yeah, but if that somehow becomes a standard it also means the league will have to lift the cap more. otherwise the numbers don't balance. you can only do outrageous paydays sparingly because everyone has to share the pot.
>>156200950rod the bod is hawt as hell
>>156201070>everyone has to share the pot.nah. the top players are gonna feast. it is their league.
>>156201070Simple, just print more cap space. Do it, gary.
>>156201248can't remember the last teams that really went for paying the top guys and putting out a bottom six of rookies and guys who probably should have been in switzerland. Maybe some of those old chicago teams or the oilers at one point?
>>156201337the Chicago Blackhawks won 3 cups paying out the ass for Hossa, Toews, Campbell, Kane, Keith, Seabrook, and Sharp. They kept cycling in and out bottom 6 shitters.Pay premium talent the premium money.
>>156201248they certainly could. i meant within a team structure that hopes to be a serious contender. in the sharks' case they have mack and then a handful of players who are in a similar lower range. smith is probably not going to be in his own tier above misa/stenberg. his main asset is being able to read mack's mind, but that's something that cuts both ways in a pay negotiation.
you have some teams who inturprit this new wealth of cap space going up as>Camp A. I can overpay my middle 6 players by 4 million now but my star players should still be in the 10 to 12 range they dont get raisesvs the meta changing and what it will be now>Camp B. my franchise players are getting paid and I will gladly pay themlets just hope the teams in Camp A dont have stars to sign while they just thrw money away on shitters because "it's fine $6m is what $2m used to be it's all fine pal"
>The Anaheim Ducks have limited their comment section on Instagram jej
>>156201466They also got gary'd up the ass to sell jersey and tickets since they were a shit franchise for 50 years prior to that.
>>156201620getting guys who give their teams fat discounts is hotter than ever now
>>156201917yeah cucks are retarded what's new
why are the Habs core getting peanuts until the 2030s? are they dumb? do they not like money?
>>156201917I think some players just have bad agents who are doing a great disservice to their clients. behind the times. hockey people can be slow to adapt.not everybody is gonna win who is taking discounts. some of these stars will lose millions for nothing.
>>156201070Cap space is decided by a formula thatim is based on the total revenue projection of the league. The only the league can manually increase the amount of cap space is to add more teams.
>>156202101Winning a cup on montreal is worth the prestige. They are all young and will get paid again. Some of these guys signing fuck huge deals wont be getting them again after they dont live up to them.
>>156202178>some of these stars will lose millions for nothing.You don't leave money on the table to win. You leave money on the table for the chance to win.
>>156202101caufield @ 7.85 million for 5 more seasons is looking stupidly cheap now
>>156201466Keith and Hossa were on backdiving contracts that are now illegal. They also immediately declined when Seabrook/Toews/Kane got paid again
>>156202206they've won a cup? kek
>>156202178well not everybody is moneymaxxing I guess
Draisaitl played one season as the highest cap hit in the league. He's now down to 3rd. By this time next year he could easily be out of the top 15
>>156202401Don't be an idiot
>>156202255we call those mcdavids now
>>156201740
in a world where 4C Jack Drury is getting $5,000,000 then you better believe $18,000,000 for a 21-year old 1C is gonna become the new norm
>>156202757Briere saw this the other night and was stewing it about ever since over his glass of johnny red neat. "I will have my revenge" he promised himself.
>>156202757Anaheim deserves this KWAB.
>>156195066Came here looking for this
>>156202757they still might keep him, but if they do it torpedos their entire wage scale and gameplan for the futurephilly was savage and got their revenge
just pay him its a 5 year deal It doesn't really matter
Danny B is the most merciless motherfucker in the league.
>>1562030755 years is precisely why it is so bad. If it was 8 at least they would be getting some value out of 28 year old Carlsson
>>156202757>>156203023they had this coming i didnt realize they were being cunty. talk shit get hit.
>>156202757kwaboty
>Mc200IQ>McSentYouToARebuild>McWinOrLoseIWin>McJudasButGood>McWonTheOffSeason>Mc10StepsAhead>McPlaying4DChess>McPuppetMaster>McAllAccordingToPlan>McPlayingTheLongGame>McPlotTwist>McMasterMind>McGM>McAlwaysRight>McOwner>McSlaveMaster>McSubvertTheExpectation>McAlreadyLiftingTheCup
>>156202192The alternative to changing the math in favor of players is to lower max pay. Either would work. But paying lots of guys much more than they're getting now is not going to happen without increasing available money.
>>156203391The problem is that bottom of the roster shitters are already paid too much.
As usual my hatred for all thing Philthadelphian is justified. Every person there is a faggot and if the city burned down in its entirety nothing of value would be lost.
>>156203743based
>>156202757kind of my facial expression when I am thinking about leaving desu
>>156203822yeah thanks, thanks for nothing pal.
for me it's stormy
>>156203743you don't like their cheesesteaks?
>>156203871faggot
>>156203228And to think, if the Wendy's corporate twitter account didn't go viral for being a snarky bitch Leo Carlsson wouldn't be a powder keg waiting to obliterate one of two multi-billion dollar sports teams.
>>156203934
>>156203909>shitty stale-ass bread>greasy, over-cooked veg>super thing greasy-ass strips of beer>oh, and let's smother it in cheez whiz to cover up the rancid shit we just put on it. >Dat be fiftee dolla seven foooooah seeenze!
>>156203871>nordeFucking retards.
>>156203909>You don't like shitty skirt steak with American cheese bro It's literally a C Tier sandwich at best.
>>156203822Excited to see the Leo Carlsson version
>>156203023Philly is a bunch of grudge holding faggots that deserve a 9/11 but in philly only
Cale Makar and Bowen Byram are both expecting twins.
Can someone explain to me how making a 3rd line center the highest paid player in the league and giving up 4 first round picks is good business>h...h...he...almost got a point a game in the Western conference!This is the big leagues now, not the AHL mk. 2
>take the compensation>use the picks to offersheet bedard for league max $20.5m
>>156203695No disagreement there.
Ducks have matched philthy 's offer sheet to Leo Carlsson
>>156204277I'm the father of both those fetuses btw
>>156204252oh no not a plane crashing into pat's or geno's
>>156204277Bro if i was a pro hockey player my gf would be so much hotter than that
>>156204301You can't do that, retard.
>>156204301Bedard sucks dude pretty sure word is out
>>156204301chicago will just match it easy their owners arent tightwads with bonus money which is the only deterrent in these contracts
>>156204386that chick has been bryams girlfriend since they were in high school
>>156204482Ya that's gay as fuck
>>156204482Of course, she has an eye for talent I too spotlighted Byrams elite talent at an early age so me and her have something in common,
>>156204482My high school girlfriend was and presumably still is a lesbian
>>156204577Bedard is dead
>>156204597do you regret not putting on a dress and seducing him bugs bunny style
Honestly ducks should let Leo go and get the picks. Fuck him for signing the offer sheet and fuck philly for holding a grudge for a player they lied to and traded and got a decent return on.
>>156204289Well, you see, uh, if you look at his stats, uhm, in the playoffs he was good and... yeah
The Philadelphia Flyers are owned by Comcast so it's on brand to be 'tarded I suppose
whos the cape green of the pwhl
>>156204386You’d marry the prettiest girl from your school for stability
>>156205154No, you would
>>156204482So gay. Only thing gayer is crosby and his ugly old gf
>>156205154Depends on how hot the prettiest girl was
>>156205202Ok but enough about your mum
>>156202757KWABOTY
Gavin McKenna signs his entry-level contract with the #leafs and receives the new maximum allowable under the CBA:** $1.025M/$1.075M/$1.125M salary next three seasons ** Up to $1M Schedule A bonuses each season ** Up to $2.5M Schedule B bonuses each season
>>156203743If the Ducks wanted to lock him up, they should have offered him a fair deal.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you cant pay good players 7th man in the NBA/4th SP money NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>156204940can't blame the guy for getting 18 million a year. Philly however, are celebrating they fucked over the ducks. They don't care about fucking themselves over too. That said, they're not going to be able to sign Zegras, Drysdale, Michkov, Tippet, or even Andrae. They had good young players too
>>156205154I would marry a cool but evil intellectual with big plans. Actually McDavid already did this, props
>>156205515Flyers fans probably think it'a getting matched
KWAB
ducks have a billion picks now though
>>156204967The only thing that would make this better would be still having 20 year contracts
>>156205838>20 year contractsdamn, what contract was it that really pushed the league to change how long a contract can be?
>>156204967Honestly, he's the type of player you build a team around. Either way, the ducks are fucked for the duration of his contract though. They may have lost their top two centers. They don't make the playoffs without Carlson next year at least
Flames bros is this our fate after we assemble an elite roster. It’s not fair
Anaheim should match and then fire Verbeek.Might be the worst GM fumble since some Milbury shit.
I think having the Flyers become contenders again would be great for the game. They are that team that everyone has an opinion on and gets the league exciting again.It's like when the New York Giants, Detroit Pistons and Seattle Marines are good. it adds a good feeling to their leagues when they are good
>>156206076Want whatever that retard is smoking
>>156205890Kovalchuk but there were probably others. I'm not even a Devils fan and I remember making feral pro-Lou Lamoriello HFBoards posts
>>156203909it makes a better hot pocket then sandwich
I think having the Flames become contenders again would be great for the game. They are that team that everyone has an opinion on and gets the league exciting again.It's like when the New York Giants, Detroit Pistons and Seattle Marines are good. it adds a good feeling to their leagues when they are good
>>156206188rick dipetro's contract was bad too
>>156206302Want whatever this retard is smoking
>>156205712but do the ducks really want to restart their rebuild?
>>156206188yea i think kovalchuk and crosbys autismo 87 contract taht made them set a year limit
>>156206354kek, was just gonna say, you now remember Rick DiPietro's contract.
>>156205515I can blame him. But like I said I hope they uno reverse it and stick philly with the bill. Leo isn't an amazing player. He's good tier
>>156206497Crosbys contract was fine. Kovalchuks circumvented all kinds of rules. It helped cause the 2013 lockout.
Ducks better hope their farm is good. They do have McQueen to replace McTavish, and their two drafts this year. They also have the guy they got from Buffalo.
Friedman said that Carlsson's contract has changed the NHL forever! We can now describe events in NHL history as being post or pre Carlsson's contract
>>156206188Funny thing was that NHL said no to the first contract Kovalchuk signed with the Devils (17 years, so he'd still be under contract), but were okay with the 15 year one.
>>156206648>We can now describe events in NHL history as being post or pre Carlsson's contractJust like my Sharks
shouldn't the ducks just take the picks and the space? (trading mctavish looks kinda stupid now even though 2 firsts is nice)it's a damn shame they're in the same div as edmonton, otherwise there'd be a chance they could score mcgayvid in a year or two with all those picks to trade
>changes the NHL forever
>>156206583kovalchuks contract was some sort of attempt to circumvent the aav, but the league still didnt want players signed to 10+ year contracts.
>>15620618810 year Johan Franzen contract was a doozy
>>156206648pc era ruined everything for the nhl
>>156206759Losing two of your new "franchise faces" to Philly is a bad look.
>>156206790https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR_eIKvUjoU
>>15620683811 year deal actually AAV of 3.95 is crazy by todays standards.
>>156206921That's 2.5 years of NHL superstar Leo Carlsson
Whose gonna pay for that contract? It ain't the owner. It'll be the fans with raised ticket praises, raised concession prices, merch prices, the works.
meanwhile, vegas
>>156206648>jewreporter saidWho cares?
>>156207056Pietrangelo's corpse gives them $8.8M in cap relief
>>156207047It will be all Comcast customers.
>>156207047Why have all the other leagues figured out make them watch more ads and the NHL is still trying to sell hotdogs? It's bush league
I think having the islanders become contenders again would be great for the game. They are that team that everyone has an opinion on and gets the league exciting again.It's like when the New York Giants, Detroit Pistons and Seattle Marines are good. it adds a good feeling to their leagues when they are good
>>156207056The fuck...they were just million over the fucking cap. How the FUCK are they adding to that number?
The Metro should be way better next year
>>156207096Friedman is Gary's special and most favoured child
>>156207047they're going to start doing pay parking if they haven't already
>>156207096Watch it, Jewish mutterings are supposed to be sacrosanct to you cattle
>>156207147vegas has always been on the cutting edge of cap circumvention, they'll figure it out
i could HEEM leo carlsson
Verbeek is a jabronie how do you even let this happen
I will never celebrate July 4
>>156207265How bout this: Make Me.
>>156207423What if tomorrow is the day you finally have sex? Would you celebrate its anniversary?
>name is verbeek>doesn't have a beakmake it make sense
Who is the worst gm in the league?
>>156207135JLMI
>>156207585Stan "we don't need a good goaltender" Bowman
>>156207585yzerplan
>>156207585Don Waddel
>>156199755Lias favourite team is definitely the sharks
>>156207585surprised teams let cte'd out retards like jason botterill run their team for so long.
>>156207585Yzerman
>>156207585grier if his rebuild acceleration gambit fails
>>156207498He has a huge beak. What do you mean?
>>156206875Ducks didn't lose lacombe and cutter
>>156207585
>>156207498that is the classic aquiline nose
>>156207726nah ducks are her local teamrinmama no doubt had kariya and selanne yaoi
Gonna watch Surf Ninjas for going to bed tonight. Can't wait to see what gare bear has in store for us tomorrow.
>>156207874
>>156207934he had over 1k games
>>156208065Oh, whoopdy doo
Huomenta but the opposite
>>156208125i was surprised that he wasn't an enforcer honestly
love Kurt Overcharge me
>>156208295Great asset management imo by the great Jason Botterill.
>>156208295Connor zary for Shane weight who says no
>>156208295jason should let his sister jen take over
>>156208295Anaheim just found their Carlsson replacement
>>156208492She has to be smart she went to harvard and not just to put up 3 points per game
Ducks fans are NOT handling it well
>>156208550I have an feeling the parts about attractive women and homies and at the bar dancing are not true
>>156208550>Verbeek plays hardball with contract negotiations and pushes off signing their franchise player>Someone offer sheets him for a ludicrous amount of money>"I CAN'T BELIEVE THE PLAYER WOULD DO THIS, WHAT A BETRAYAL"Everyone ass kisses GMs too much these days
>>156208550is chud codeword for faggot or something? I'm out of the loop?
>>156208668Players have way too much rights nowadays your drafted by that team you play on that team
The Blake Wheeler Effect has had rippling effects on the NHL
Crosby being an enormous autist really skewed fan perspective on how an athlete should treat a team.
>>156208820
idk what i hope the outcome is.that kind of contract and losing 4 1sts feels like it will cripple our promising planBUT he is supposed to be a very young 1c and we can just trade tippett away for futures to make room to re-sign zegrasBUT that is a lot of shit committed to carlsson and is he really that nigga?BUT he a young 1ct. flyers fan
>>156208878Honestly, it's almost certainly a lose-lose scenario but time will tell.
>>156208707Counter point: fuck the jewish owners and their faggot GMs.
>>156208878The plan isn't to get him, the plan is to cripple Anaheim.It's a bold move, let's see if it pays off.
feel like they are not gonna match and the ducks are already putting out hit piece info on Leo so the fans turn on him and are glad he is gone>>156208923philly wants the player. this is not a kotkaniemi deal. their gm has been talking about needing a top line center and exploring every ave to get one, and by god this is a 21-year old top line center
>>156208550lol what the fuck is their problem? He got an OFFER. How did he betray them by getting an offer
How the Ducks can exact revenge on the FlyersI realize this is unlikely, but it's not impossible.1) Fire Pat Verbeek. This isn't absolutely necessary but it makes the relational aspects necessary for the next steps much easier.2) Sign the Carlsson offer sheet. It's too much, but it has to be done.3) Offer sheet Zegras for 9.35M and Drysdale for 4.7M. I understand the relationship history here but people have forgiven people for less than 9 million bucks. Make the Flyers have to match. I'm not sure if the Ducks have the picks to do both because both require a 2nd rounder...someone smarter than me can chime in4) Offload Killorn, Vatrano, and or Kreider as needed for cap space.It's a huge risk and you're locking in your core for the forseeable future with minimal flexibility. But it sends a far stronger message than the one the Canes sent the Canadiens and Leo, Cutter, Terry, Zegras, Sennecke, Granlund is a heck of a top 6.
>>156209005He signed the OFFER.18 million AAV is his minimum now, either he leaves Anaheim on the Flyers offer sheet contract or stays in Anaheim and nukes their cap.
>>156209028>the Ducks can get revenge on the Flyers for signing their players to reasonable offersheets that will be easily matches and not cripple themthat will teach em
It all went down for the ducks when they traded strome away for nothing. He was the glue that kept the team together.
>>156209028Or he could just meet him at the bar and punch him in the face
how does it not nuke the flyers as well ?
>>156209082Wait... HE DID????
>>156209207briere is doing a murder-suicide and it's fun because it might be the first time it's ever happened in the nhl
>>156208923>the plan is to cripple Anaheim.bold move cotton, risk completely gutting your future talent pool to *maybe* shave cap space from one of 31 rival teams (and a team that has assloads of it anyway)
just trade for petterson. if you just take the contract they'll probably give him away.
>>156209207It's about sending a message.
>>156209207they will just trade Tippett for a future protected first round pick or something. He is a good but redundant winger.their long term cap situation is not bad they dont really have any bad contracts except for Couturier who is man enough to probably waive his NMC if ever asked
>>156209303Yes, we will literally will give him away, without retention, for future considerationst. Sedins probably (and hopefully)
Ducks fans across the internet are celebrating Leo is a turncoat that doesn’t care about winning he just wants money
>>156209113Based STROME GANG
>>156209207the best part is, if the ducks are smart they'll take all 7 days to make this decision and completely waste philthadelphia's chances to do other business in FA
>>156209372is strome strong?
>>156209379FA is over lil bro nobody good is left
>>156209207It does, that's why this is all so funny
>>156209379Now that would be cold-heartedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G84oyI9UgSk
>>156209388Yes gudas is a strome fan
>>156209433why are all their mustaches awash with cum?
I hope someone offer sheets all of the remaining RFAs to teach gary a lesson.
>>156209459If they do that, Gary will kill everybody...
>>156209451I use it as a special moisturizer for them. No homo, though, bro.
you got to know when to hold emKnow when to fold emknow when to runYou never count your moneyWhen your sittin' at the tableThey'll be time enough for countingWhen the dealin's donr
>>156209451Milk moustaches. The player of the game for the ducks chugs down a jug of milk to celebrate.
>>156209510>milkoh is that what they're calling it these days...
>>156209207>need to sign Zegras and Drysalde this year (Drysdale is rumored to be back already at 6.5m)>can easily trade Tip (free up $6.2)>need to sign Michkov next year>need to sign Martone the year after>if Michkov/Martone get $10m+, that means they are reaching their potential and the team is a contender so great news>will have Risto coming off the books after next year>the cap is rising almost $10m every yearIt doesnt.
>Grier spends 30 million dollars collecting dregs from around the league that is going to cause an RFA cap crunch>Verbeek dumps half the top 6 that just made a surprise playoff run and is now locked in a room with Briere in a suicide vest>Holland is still trying to convince Los Angeles that the Kings will totally make a recovery 10 years into the coma and refuses to pull the plugCali hockey looked like it was going to make a recovery but it was simply a mirage
>>156209532wow its sounds like everything's already worked out for Philly
Tomar from oney >>156209569plays is a flyers fan
>>156209569its about time desu the flyers were due some good fortune
>>156209473If that's the price we gotta pay...
>>156209558
>>156209597I remember that time Tomar ambushed Scott Stevens in an alleyway and beat him to near death with a lead pipe then started trying to chew off his fingers, great entertainer he is
>>156209246it wouldn't be news if he didn't sign it. players can get all sorts of offers and just ignore them. i think we'd have to know what the ducks were doing to know who the asshole was here, but it was probably management.>>156209558there's like one year where this is even a possible cap issue, and that's assuming they don't dump any of the non-jailbait contracts.
>>156209558https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8iuQNC-jgo
philly absolutely kwab'd the ducks herei hope duck fans enjoy the increased ticket prices to pay for that contract
Who will take Pettershit?
Who will take nurse? Oh wait bwahahahha.
who will take me
>>156209916i do
>>156198939cope that was awesome
>>156209916Hi huberdeau.
just been informed i have been offer sheeted
>>156204277ivf strikes again
>>156210002not matching
>>156210036please respect my privacy at this time
>>156204429he sucks? sucks what
pat's playing career mogs briere's btw
>>156208065I remember him with the Oilers
flyers are retarded
>>156208250you only think that because he's african american
>>156210339why? they sent message today, and that message is >fuck you cutter gauthier
>>156210366jen
the broship is winning this offseason
>>156210430
>>156204301no one is going to offer sheet Bedard because he wants to stay in Chicago, he and his agent have made that clear.Once he signs his extension everyone that currently wants their team to offer sheet him will go back to saying he's bad
in 5-years he is leaving Anaheim as a UFA. their fans will boo him and treat him like shit. He will remember this, plus he already knows the organization are cheap bastards to deal with. I also dont think the Samueli's will want to do business with him and his agent again considering how they will probably feel like they got fucked out of an extra $30,000,000 for nothingand they can't even trade him in the contract year because he was given an NMC in that last year.
i'm afraid the only remedy now, due to the carlsson offer sheet, is global thermonuclear war
>>156210515always thought it would be yzerman that tipped the scales
listening to my wife olivia but anyway why did the flyers do it bro's
fans should be able to offer sheet players so that they can be their personal sex slaves
carlsson is like the mid girl that everyone wants to fuck for some reason but youre not sure why
>>156210653because she's white and got blue eyes
>>156210459>anaheim>fansjej
>>156210668like the yu-gi-oh card
>>156210728yugioh is gay /hoc/ is a magic: the gathering general
>>156210734https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g8iTRV9xOc
>>156210734>magic: the gatheringFaggot shit
allow me to explain this young man through an analogy about how i DON'T want to have sex with him
>>156210734yugioh had some good life lessons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8msOu_qQbb4
>>156210783>n-no you kwab your game is dead
for me it's Marvel: Overpower
>>156210830true dat
Go to hockeyr/hockey•9m agorezistSSigning Leo Carlsson at 18M has nothing to do with his actual value for the FlyersIt seems like a lot of people are looking at Leo Carlsson's skill set and asking - how on earth is this guy worth 18 million dollars a year? I just want to dispel the misconception that he's actually that good for those out there who misunderstand the situation by context."Look at this player, he only gets X amount of dollars""This player signed for X% of the cap and he's way more proven"Sure, but if you're a contending team that is looking to address the need of a first line center - the most coveted positional need in hockey - the reality is that you can't just go and get one. Even four first round picks, depending on the state of the team extending the offer, will have teams holding on to their talent instead of shipping it out.Would you send out Bedard or McDavid for 20OA picks in four consecutive drafts? Celebrini, Fantilli, Cooley? Probably not. Four 16OA picks? Four 10OA picks? Still, probably not. If you want a chance to win, you need to surround your talent with more talent.I personally doubt that Briere and the Philadephia Flyers think that Leo Carlsson is worth 18 million dollars a year. I don't even think Leo Carlsson thinks, in a vacuum where all skill sets are laid out and valued monetarily, that he's an 18 million AAV player.The point of the offer sheet is threefold - pay Leo Carlsson what he wants, get a young 1C into your locker room and make it so that Anaheim, a team with a lot of cap space, won't match the offer.This could be equated to giving your team 3-5M in dead cap space from a buyout or a retained salary. You're adding something, talent, by subtracting available cap.
Leo Carlsson's skill set isn't worth 18M AAV. But if Anaheim is matching offers that make sense - then you need to make your swing count and make it unreasonable. Danny Briere would rather have a 13M player and lose an additional 5M in cap space to go back and say look, we're getting a 1C for the team because the alternative is not having a 1C.But doesn't this make other contract negotiations harder for the Flyers in the future? I'd like to argue that it doesn't. If your team wants the front office to go and make them competitive, then Leo Carlsson's AAV isn't related to how good of a player he is.So please, please - don't think that Leo Carlsson is actually worth 18 million AAV in pure player value. That's not the value of the player, that's the cost of RFA offer sheets to teams with cap space to match it. Leo Carlsson just happens to profit off of how unreasonable the AAV has to be for Anaheim to consider not matching it. this is not a reddit post even though the first post would indicate that it is
>>156210430worst broship in the history of /sp/?many are saying this
>>156211161wtf the knights won them a cup and a pair of clarence campbellb owls
>>156211181>the knights won them a cupidk man, 2023 was a long time agowhat have they done lately?
>>156210951How reasonably better does Leo make them? That is 4 mid round first rounders they are giving away.
>>156211094FUCK, ANOTHER PUZZLE!
>>156211201read the last sentence of the post you illiterate tranny kwarb
Islanders won the offseason
someday /hoc/ will finally give my islanders the respect we deserve
>>156211498If you win another cup, maybe.
>>156210734>>156210783
Card games are shit were all painting miniatures and playing warhammer
>>156211324>>156211498Wait the Islanders made trades? Who and what? I haven't heard about a single one
>>156211685warhammer is infinitely gayer than tcgs with your lil toys KEK
at the superstore there were people literally in their 40s and 50s waiting outside all night from 11pm to 7am to buy pokiemon cards
we all agree that was a shit ploffs right? dabres and hasbs being the only good series of course.
>>156200950>would you rather playedSAAAAR
>>156211806Mtg is a children's card game
>>156211854kwab
>>156192322I'm sure they love the player but 4 first round picks and NOT spending 18 million off your salary cap seems good for doing nothing to me.
/hoc/ has a concerning amount of nerds. This a jock Chad sex having genny.
>>156211316copey seems to be getting dumber and angrier over time
>>156212204Actually we respect each others interests here
i don't get angry
the darkest hours of the night
haven't been following it much will the ducks match? no way right?
>>156212667nobody knows bro the ducks have gone radio silent
>>156212690spooky
i can't reach the cereal when it's on top of the fridge
>>156203871I would slopmax to get them all if it were real
>>156212775put on your skates
>>156213037
>>156212667>>156212690>The Ducks have already lost Leo Carlsson
>>156213395Probably their dignity too. Definitely everyone will think Pat Verbeek is a cuck if they don't match it.
>>156213474Damned if they do. Damned if they don't. I think this changes up things for San Jose also who wanted to sign Celebrini to a contract. Is he suppose to take a downgrade in pay when Celebrini's stats dwarf's Leo Carlssons?San Jose doesn't have that kinda money now that they took on Trouba and Nurse..I think taking on Nurse was better than taking on Trouba. Trouba is just a dipshit whose gonna get injured or fined or suspended games.
are the ducks the good guys?
>Hey... Look at how bad Fredick Andersen was during the playoffs and how he got benched.>YEAH WE NEED HIM
>>156213776Don't you understand anon. He was on the Canes team, and they won the cup. Clearly this will help the Oilers win one again.
>>156213857I love how retarded they are, lol.
>>156213857*
If there is ever ever ever one thing that the Oilers will never figure out. It's what a good goaltender is. Because they think they have amazing defense players. Atleast they finally got rid of Nurse.
>>156213604the ducks office is known to be the worst to deal with/most hostile to its players in the entire league.
>>15621377613-2 with a 1.89 GAA is playing badly in the playoffs now ?
off today bro's so instead of going to bed right now i'm still playing diablo :)got a big power spike and i'm having fun again :)
>>156213587everyone already knew macklin was going to get any figure he wanted. smith probably gets something comparable to other good players in his role. he's not the franchise player and isn't clearly the second best on the team either.
>>156213955Now show us Bussi's stats
>>156213776What's up with leaf teams picking up sloppy seconds goalies?
>>156214000Based watching the 1996 KOTR tournament on the wwe vault
>>156213776>and how he got benchedhe got a knee injury during game 2 of the SCF
>>156214082OOOOOOOOOHHHH HELLLLL YEAAAAHyou sit there and you thump ur bible ya say your prayers and it didn't get you anywhere. talk about your psalms, talk about john 3:16 well austin 3:16 just whipped your ass
>>156211222a lot better. he's good enough to tear up the metro completely, a weak division full of old and slow boomers.
happy fourth
>>156215365every day is the 4th when you love america
>>156215381very true bandit keith
>>156215365i thought month comes first
https://voca.ro/1hnZEz44qIEH
>>156216159this has been debunked, it was a girly magazine
are there ant restrictions on how many goalies a team can put on the ice? could a team theoretically put six goalies out and no skaters?
maybe celebrini will be an islander
>>156217185
>>156216159Is this one of those bodybuilding magazines the paperboy reads?
>>156217337He should play for our Sens :D
>>156217398alright, thanks. separate question: let's assume a team only has one goalie and for whatever reason they have to leave the game. is a skater allowed to throw on the goalie pads mid-game and replace him? conversely, can a goalie go back into the locker room and switch to skater gear and join the linemen?
>linemen
>>156213955these ghouls don't actually watch hockey
>>156217684you need to have 2 goaltenders in your lineup at puck drop. that's NHL rule.if both your goalies get injured, both team have a designated emergency back up goaltender (the EBUG), but that's a (new) CBA rule, so it's not in the NHL rulebook.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING AMERICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK EVERYONE ELSE ESPECIALLY YOU CANADA
>>156218267you're a small minded child, you'll probably burn yourself on a sparkler today won't you bozo
>>156218293>Making up a hypatheticalLol, you lost
>>156218293shut up bitch
>>156218306I'm sorry, a what?
Philly knew this free agent market was tanking interest and dropped a nuke with that offer sheet to drum up excitement
>>156218233>if both your goalies get injured, both team have a designated emergency back up goaltender (the EBUG)God, imagine if a team reached that point and still managed to win somehow. That'd be really embarrassing for the other guys, wouldn't it?
>>156218385(to be honest, that was before the new rule in the new CBA. laffs still suck cocks)
>>156192322>18 millionCelebrini and Bedard have to get at least 25 mil at this point
>>156218267Today I am for Canada
>>156218496Max is $20.8M this year and projected to be $22.7M next year
>>156218496That won't be possible until the cap has risen for some years. If Mack is truly Sid's secret magical daughter, he'll require a metaphysically significant figure like 17.1.
>>156218496bedard is small, he just hurt his shoulder in practice. team's been awful entire time he's been there. not sure he should be getting more than those guys outside of canadian marketing.
is carlsson worth 18m
Anon hypathetically knows how to spell
i'm worth 18m
>>156218824You made a hypothetical about an American because you cannot stop seething about the Olympics. Stop being so mind raped.
>wildly overpay for a might-be-good player AND lose 4 first rounders if anaheim doesn't decide to take on a retarded contractdid paul holmgren get his hands on danny briere's phone?
>>156218881Not even that anon .Just saw how dumb you where and had to acknowledge it
>>156219000You're calling me stupid for a spelling mistake when you're making up shit about people.
>>156218496Celebrini? Yes.Bedard? Why? I would take Carlsson over him.
>>156219049I'm not making anything up , I truly think you're dumb
>>156219079bodied that 'cord freak
huomenta!
>july 4th AND day of the rake in soccer#blessed
SATURDAYIN THE PARKI THINK IT WAS THE FOURTH OF JULY
>>156219000>where
>>156219162BTFO
>>156218781under the circumstances to land the player, yes.
>>156219079>>156219105>I'm not making up anything>you're a small minded child, you'll probably burn yourself on a sparkler today won't you bozoWhy do you faggots just lie?
Good morning, /hoc/.>laffs
>>156219133'Cause I heard it in the windAnd I saw it in the skyI thought it was the endI thought it was the Fourth of July
look at this gay ass nigga trying to win imaginary arguments in the AM kwab
>>156219283gm, morning matthews came out sloppy today
>>156219262Bro stop rambling about non sense and let's just call it a tie because >>156219162
>>156219299I'm one of those and I do that
Huomenta Slept like shit because of the heat. I’m not sure if I’ll bench or deadlift today
>>156219313Why should I stop. You're the one rambling on about anon being a child because you're still mad about the Olympics.
>>156219313>try to pick a fight>KWAB yourself>"i-it's a tie"lmao
>>156219556>Why should I stop.I think you meant to use a question mark, but I understand the error since you're in full blown seethe mode
happy fourth of july, my tubby neighbours to the south! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc_YmjkQ-Ts
>>156219651fucking BODIED that 'cord dwelling pedantic yank on a vpn
>ynr it all started because this snot nosed kid burned his finger on a sparkler KWAB
>>156207585Dallas kept winning awards yet no Gary cup.
>>156219628Everyone kwabs themselves every once and a little while but it takes a humble big dick anon like myself to admit it and make peace
>>156219712All of America's straight Stanley Cups were won before 2008. They've only won gay Stanley Cups since then
>>156220063how is crosby's cup gay?
>>156213896Big think, he is just cursed and oilers will be back in gary's cup final after trading away mcdorkus.
>>156219712I love Gary.
Last night I saw a truck with an Oilers sticker
>>156220155i saw a deadhead sticker on a cadillac
>>156220086>played 10 minutes in game 7Super gay
happy 4th brothers! hell yeah brother.
>>156220527happy 4thgo with christ brother
fuck the 4th and fuck this genny
>>156220527Happy 4th fren (。◕‿‿◕。)
>>156220583>>156220527>>156220622
call the darnell nurse trade what it is - racial favoritism
>>156220759mikey make ya seethe
>>156220759Once an Oiler, always an Oiler
>>156220211For me, it's live/dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pZ1brENIjw
>18 milly for a guy without a p/gp seasonthank you gary
how true is this agent only poll?
>>156221132>retard gm>retard owner>cheapskate owner>cheapskate ownerLooks legit
Can one of you guys spot me in the gym?
>>156221272No
>>156221272more like i'll spot you in jim. gayboy
>>156221272No, sorry, I'm making moves on the hot gym girl.
>With Verbeek having figured out the RFA deals, our team must look like a contender now.
>>156221272Gotta go play in the 4th softball game sorry bud
Pat Verbeek held out for a better contract in training camp ahead of the 1988-89 season, after he scored 46 goals in 87-88 and the Devils went to the ECF against Boston. New Jersey was offering $700k and Verbeek wanted $1m.
This is the soccer general now Go canada go Go canada go
Wait, you mean we get to enjoy another canacuck elimination day?
>>156221852watching basedball myself
is the australian league any good
>>156222493no retard
>>156221852I like it when they kick the ball real good
Shane bros...
>>156221994Unless they win the world cup, yes.
>>156222717Man, that '22 draft was craptastic.
>>156222717lmao ship him off to winnipeg or ottawa where he can freeze his ass off
>>156222717He needs more time in the AHL
>>156222717wtf who will be on one of the kraken's 3rd lines now
>>156222838>craptastic
>>156223421marnertastic*
>>156222717New Kotkaniemi just dropped
>Is that a... a.. TRAINING CAMP SCRIMMAGE? AAAHHHHH I'M INJUREDIs he made of glass?
>>156222838Zoomers are weak
i got tradle in two AND globle in two
flyers should pivot and trade those picks for robert thomas after it gets matched
>>156222838covid ruined their developement
>>156223666>shoulder injurywhy does he wear the mask
>>156223666Barkov was injured during a preseason game, Satan
>>156223666Bedard is just a slightly enhanced Nick RobertsonUnreal shot, but tiny and injury prone. Career unlikely to last long
>>156224095But he was the next Crosby
>>156221272Never seen you there, fattie
>>156224095Yeah he’s a bust
Where can i watch canada vs monaco soccer ball match?
>>156202757they have been cheeky about it since the trade happened (picrel)Philly gonna make this same tweet about Leo if Anaheim doesn't match
>>156224917its on CTV over the air telly
>>156224917i bought an antenna to watch the soccerslop
>>156224925anaheim truly deserved getting fucked in the ass like this.
>>156224917I reckon all you'd need to do is pop into your local gay bar
>he reckons
>>156225185Jen
For me, it’s the reckoner
>>156225049look at moneybags not making his own antenna
>>156225049are you my grandpa from the old country
lookie here
>>156226147no one knows who this random unc is
>just then, I wondered if Wayne Gretzky found this match as taxing and boring as I do
>>156226147Neat
I’m barbecuing some juicy posts for the next thread
Is the next thread 4th of July or rooting for Canadas divegrass team?
new>>156226926>>156226926
>>156226147Why does he look like this