otherwise people would just blame that over the loss, instead of the absolute shit gameplay from USA.It's not like Trump called in a replacement ref that made biased refball decisions the whole game, which is how a lot of the games went this tournament.USA lost fair and square thanks to the overturn.
Ok, now let's remove Quansah's suspension. These are the new rules
>>156432079If Putin had been calling Infantino to overturn a red card suspension when Russia hosted the WC in 2018, and then very publicly bragging about getting it done, there would have been just as much backlash against the Russian NT. Perhaps even more desu. It is very spiritually Trump to get involved in something he has no clue about, make it about himself, try to cheat, alienate the world, give the opponent extra motivation, and then lose anyway (all for a birthright citizen player that he is actively trying to remove from the country).
>>156432126if it's just as much bullshit then yeahshitty refball decisions shouldn't affect subsequent games, having him out the rest of the first game is more than enoughi'd even go as far as saying a simple red card shouldn't ever lead to suspension in the following game, the rest of the game is enough, but that's a different debate
>>156432189the thing is the red card was objectively undeservedno one is defending it, so it's effects shouldn't taint another gameif Obama tweeted "that red card was undeserved" and FIFA overturned it, no one would have gotten their panties in a twistTrump and Putin have tons of haters and anything even vaguely related to them will get automatic hate no matter what, it just becomes another channel for the seethers to seethe
>>156432079it's a valid viewpoint, only because I think>we could have won if we had THE BALOGUN>BELGIUM ONLY LOST BECAUSE WE WEREN'T AT FULL POWERwould have blown up to ridiculous proportions and would have been an extremely obnoxious myth everyone would be stuck hearing for years on end. getting walloped reveals the hard but necessary truth of facing our shitty performance while simultaneously not taking away from Belgium's fairly won victory
>>156432258It is not about Trump or Putin. Qatar's top emir didn't try to insert himself and meddle in the matches either. It is unprecedented, essentially. This is what made people react. The decision should have come from FIFA and FIFA alone
>>156432328>>156432079Yeah completely agree because I would have definitely been one of those peopleIt would have sucked if we had to face this match unfairly without our best player and forever wonder what ifBut instead it was a level playing field with both teams at full strength and we got solidly depantsed by a superior team. I can at least accept and live with that.
>>156432126Win the appeal. If your legal team can prove this card was issued on a technicality, then it should get rescinded, right?
>>156432079It was right to be overturned but RETARDED to do it given how good the team was.
>>156432193>i'd even go as far as saying a simple red card shouldn't ever lead to suspension in the following gameNo, that's not the issue with red cards. The problem is that they're too painful for the team if you get them in the beginning of the 1st half and they don't matter enough if you get them at the end of the game.
Insane how Americans aren’t even trolling with this, they’re just idiots who don’t see anything wrong
>>156432258>if Obama tweeted "that red card was undeserved" and FIFA overturned it, no one would have gotten their panties in a twistlmao, if Obama came out and said "I called up FIFA and asked them to review that red card, it was very bad, the worst, they rigged it just like the 2000 election, I told them to look at it and they reversed it." Then yeah, everyone would be angry at him. Stop being a precious little baby about your orange nigger.
>>156432450Yeah, this whole ordeal has shown once again that Americans are fucking retarded.
>>156432379that's fairbut I believe FIFA when they claim that Trump had nothing to do with itTrump always inserts himself and tries to take credit where it's not due, which is what I think he did herei just think that red card was so bad that FIFA did overturn it themselves, and it's certainly not the first time FIFA suspended a red card either
>>156432079You got gaped by a non-country after the most blatant rigging in FIFA's history.Just go back to your sportsball and say the line.
>>156432490That's because the rigging made the belgian team angry, motivated and focused.
>>156432490>the most blatant rigging in FIFA's history.did you not see the France/Praguay game from like 2 days ago?the ref giving no cards to Paraguay but 3 to France was far worse than overturning a clearly bullshit red cardand that's just the most recent examplejust say you hate America, we get it
>>156432425This is supposed to be the football world cup not the lawyer world cupJesus christ modern football is so fucked with all this bullshit off the field
>>156432258>the thing is the red card was objectively undeservedTHAT'S PART OF THE GAME, NIGGER, ALWAYS HAS BEEN, AND EVERYONE HAS AGREED TO IT.THIS FAT FUCK MADE IT ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT, 'HURR WE CAN'T SUSPEND RONALDO MESSI AND LE BLACK SHIT "AMERICAN" MAN', THE VIEWERSHIP AND INCOME WOULD DROP'. IT'S AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME. THIS ISN'T WWE, NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE US WANT IT TO BE.
>>156432506yea, the "rigging" totally made Belgium so powerful that it caused our retarded goalie to kick the fucking ground and completely miss the ]ball
>>156432517Say the line, faggot.
>>156432531that's fine, but it should only affect the game it involvedrefball shouldn't extend to fucking up subsequent games that makes a biased ref too powerful
>>156432543that i'm glad the US lost over poor gameplay instead because of a shitty ref from a prior game?
>>156432446you're right and that's a good reason a red card could affect a subsequent gamebut there should be normalized process that appeals blatantly wrong decisions so the tournament can stay focused on gameplay
>>156432258bruh we lost the tournament because of an objectively undeserved red card against fucking paraguay the most slimy team this world cup
>>156432635This was never a problem until a amerishart got a red.
>>156432551yeah, but you don't change the rules mid-tournament for fuck's sake
>>156432079>that picKEK
>>156432663Yeah because you're all cuckolds. Why the fuck do you worship referees
>>156432079it wasn't bullshit though, bad challenge that twisted the other guys foot.
>>156432526that's my point thoughwhy should a blatantly wrong decision affect future games, it's the World Cup not the Biased Ref Cupbad decisions is certainly part of the game, but one bad decision should not extend beyond the game at hand
>>156432258>if Obama tweeted "that red card was undeserved" and FIFA overturned it, no one would have gotten their panties in a twistlol
>>156432451they would have praised Obama like he just cured cancer and given him a 2nd Nobel peace prize.
>>156432258Is this really what you're reduced to? Whining about fucking Obongo?
red cards are gay as fuckwhy dont you just have sin bins like they do in rugby league and union 10 minutes off for being a dickhead even then you gotta coathanger someone or do something really fucked upReckon its weak as piss look at this shit from afl wasnt even a free kick both players deemed going for the ball lol
>>156432709>blatantly wrong
>>156432517>a clearly bullshit red card
>>156432746>implying something called a "sin bin" is less gay
>>156432732no, FIFA would have overturned it regardless of what Trump or Obama said.it's clear that they're desperate for Amreican engagement in the World Cupespecially considering the fact that the last US game had more viewers than the NBA Finals and it wasn't even a knockout gamethey literally just lost billions of dollars of future ad revenue with that US lossbut they're probably happy that Trump takes the blame for the overturn instead of them
After the Trump phonecall the refs let them get away with everything, including instant red offences.
>get your senile retarded corrupt president to rig for you>still get humiliatedHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>156432933How come they didn't fix the match too then?
>>156432258>the red card was objectively undeservedYou keep repeating that but I don't see it, there's a valid case for that card
>>156432753>>156432842yea, should have been a yellow card since it was clearly unintentional but still dangerousred cards should be saved for more egregious things
>>156432986Other countries manage to handle poor refereeing decisions without having a strop and getting their president involved to demand favourable outcomes though. It's embarrassing and extremely un-sportsmanlike.
>>156432258>if the other president had his IQ halved and become as utterly retarded as the current one....yeah, a riddle for the ages
>>156433019other countries are slaves to FIFA because they worship the World Cup so muchFIFA clearly made the decision because they're thristy for having more viewers than the NBA Finals and the ad revenue it createsbet they were dreaming of beating Super Bowl numbers if the US went through to the Quarter Finals or even Semi Finalsthey care far more about those billions of dollars in ad revenue, than the feelings of a President who's going to be gone before the next World Cup
>>156433019I don’t care and also the last 3 world cups were bought and sold by the same people who overturned the call kek
>>156432126That was a red mate. As much as I hate the Yanks
>>156432687it is pretty crazy how they worship refs
This loss and controversy is far better than if we lost without Balogun and had a forever cope about how we would have done if we had Balogun instead. We're living in the timeline where we have the answer to that but imagine if we didn't.
>>1564331472014 and 2018 were not bought
>>156433133>Super Bowl numberslmao even if America had gotten in the final, local viewership would have topped at 50 million
>>156432258>the thing is the red card was objectively undeservedYou're wrong from the very premise.
>>156432258>the thing is the red card was objectively undeservedWhat is it with mutts and their chronic Dunning-Kruger syndrome? They constantly spout shit they have no clue about, not realising how stupid it makes them look. It's everywhere: politics, history, sports, quantum physics, whatever. Whenever they open their mouth you just know they first heard about it three weeks ago.Like, bro, you've watched your first ever football match three weeks ago. STFU about it and stop humiliating yourself.>muh undeservedIt's not about whether it was undeserved (it wasn't). That's not the point. The point is a head of state interfering to generate an advantage for his home team not only contradicts the spirit of fair play, but an unprecedented act and the biggest scandal FIFA ever faced since the (evidently) rigged 1930 WC in Italy. Had FIFA just announced on their own that Bngugu's suspension would be rescinded, it still would have raised eyebrows for sure, but people would have accepted it and it would just be yet another weird "coincidence" among all the other shenanigans of this WC (hydration breaks, Messi not seeing red, Trump's immigration bullshit etc.). But Trump, being the narcissistic moron he is, once again couldn't help himself but put himself in the limelight again, proudly announcing to the world he just directly interfered with an ongoing international sports tournament to create an advantage for his home team. With a single sentence he proved everyone right who already suspected FIFA was utterly corrupt and that this whole WC was a shitshow. Now every single referee decision will be scrutinised, and the entire WC will forever be tainted by corruption and greed.The fact you got absolutely annihilated on the field by Belgium despite all this later makes your loss even more degrading. You couldn't even win by cheating. Let that sink in.
>>156433535>Like, bro, you've watched your first ever football match three weeks ago. STFU about it and stop humiliating yourself.I was there when Clint Dempsey 1-1 you faggots
>>156433325Russia and Qatar both bought their bids. I wouldn’t be surprised if we did as well to include advert breaks in the middle of a half. It’s hilarious seeing all these retards wringing their hands as if their tournament isn’t the most corrupt in the world.
>>156433547Oh wait I somehow thought your flag was england. My eyes are starting to become as tired as my soul
>>156432079Look I think the red was bullshit too, but it's not something the leader of the country should be calling the head of FIFA over. President Karen asked to see soccer's manager over a controversial referee decision every team in the world has had to deal with. Now he invited more scrutiny onto the team so it's even more embarrassing that they lost. They could've said "Ah damn if only we had Balogun." Poor kid, he almost melted Trump's icy heart on birthright citizenship.
I don't know about you people but I'd be pretty embarrassed if someone from our government would call FIFA to retract a referee decision. They should have better things to do
>>156432079You openly cheated and got gaped, that's not losing fair and square that's being humiliated and you deserved it for this whole bullshit.Be happy that it's over.
>>156433603>Poor kid, he almost melted Trump's icy heart on birthright citizenship.kek
>>156432258severe BHODS
>>156432379>unprecedenteddo you have any idea how many times that word has been used to describe the random and illegal bullshit trump has done over the years?
>>156433863And it's true most of the time. He revels in it.
>>156432079>nobody has any idea what went on between trump and fifa, it's all inferred>LITERALLY fanfic>fifa denies trump involvement in decision>everyone loses their goddamn shit in round 2815715 of their drumpf seethewell then
>>156433547Why then do we have to explain again and again that intent doesn't matter? Reckless play nets you a red card, no matter your intention. It's not the injury that matters, it's the accepting of potential injury. You run someone over while under the influencrme, you go to jail. Of course you "didn't want this to happen". I believe you. You still go to jail. If you don't wanna get red-carded, don't play with your eyes closed. Simple as.Also,>hurr, the ref didn't NEED to send him offDoesn't matter. If a red card CAN be given, and it IS given, it's deserved. You can cry about it being "too harsh" for all I care, but it's still a legitimate red card.>>156433570Ah yes, the American Cordoba. The match you will still be talking about in half a century because that's the only triumph in football you'll ever have until then. Kinda embarrassing, really.
>>156432079I miss the days when the US didn't give a fuck about football
>>156432079It unironically fucked it up for the USA>spend a week planning around not having a player>suddenly the President goes behind your back to get permission for the player to now play>can't NOT play him now>but the European teams are raising enough of a stink that you also can't be certain you will be able to>preparations thrown out of the window>your team is left with this elephant in the room hanging over them with threats of lawsuits if they win>their team, who have been sleepy all tournament, are mad as hell and ready to make the home crowd cry>returning player is weighed down by extra pressure
>>156433535"With a single sentence he proved everyone right who already suspected FIFA was utterly corrupt" if you want to get any engagement think about this sentence you wrote in the context of your sputtering retardation, then come back in a few years when youre not 15
>>156434128they will go back to not giving a fuck about once they aren't the ones hosting it. the only reason they give a little fuck now is because of that.
>>156434019Nice fanfic. Too bad Trump couldn't help himself and had a press conference where he admitted to it.
>>156433535It’s still baffling how eurofags don’t know or pretend not to know their biggest sporting tournament is corrupt.
>>156434224Trump will say he never said anything tomorrow. >Infantino? Hardly know the guy.
>>156434245He's off to fuck up shit in typical spectacular fashion in Ankara.Ain't even gonna mention it.
>>156433535>But Trump, being the narcissistic moron he is, once again couldn't help himself but put himself in the limelight again, proudly announcing to the world he just directly interfered with an ongoing international sports tournament to create an advantage for his home team.Where did he say this? A post on his truth social cuck chair?
>>156432079it absolutely wasn’t it’s yet another stain on america
>>156434233The World Cup is the fun tournament.Yes, it has corruption, but generally speaking shit like Trump forcing himself in isn't needed or wanted by anyone.You talk about the world cup like it's the champions league.
>>156434224He said he asked for a review and did not pressure them. Too bad nigger. I still think it's a horrible precedent to overturn, cause now the authority of refs is broken and every goddamn decision will be under "public" review. That said it's fifa's fuckup. But everyone's gonna cope and seethe about drumpf anyway
>>156434294Generally speaking the last World Cup was hosted in the winter because everyone realized despite having billions of oil money you can’t physically host a soccer tournament in sandnigger territory in July. Before that it was hosted in a country that had just invaded and occupied its neighbor while funding insurgents in said neighbor. And now it’s hosted in a country that introduced ad breaks and caved immediately when their president made a phone call to Zurich. Pathetic stuff.
>>156434316"Asking for a review" is pressuring you fucking retard.
>>156434367>it was real in my mind
>>156434367So tell him to fuck off? What’s the US going to do about a sport that they don’t give a shit about or a leader that’s going to be out of power forever in 2 years? It’s clear as day FIFA wants to “grow the game” for US viewership and revenue.
>>156432079>provoke an international scandal to have your star nigga play>still get fucking destroyedkwab of the cup honestly
>>156432709>why should a blatantly wrong decision affect future gamesFirst of all it's not "blatantly wrong", it's heavily disputedSecondly everyone else just has to deal with the outcome on the pitch. We don't get to litigate after the final whistle blows.Think of Maradona in '86, who cheated by scoring with his hand in the quarter final.Not only did this allow Argentina to beat England, but Maradona was again vital for Argentina in the semi final against Belgium. If he had been suspended after the match, they would very likely have lost that game.But the standard is that even if everyone knows it's a result of fraudulent decision making (which, I reiterate, is not clear at all in Balogun's case) you can't change the result after the final whistle blows. That's why you won't find any historical data about Belgium demanding Maradona get banned even though he was the best player in the world and had blatantly cheated to get to the semi final.To have a POLITICAL FIGURE lean on Fifa to get the outcome changed, is an even greater degree of absurdity. It would look bad if it was just the USA team's head coach, but when it's the President, you look like a fucking tinpot African dictatorship rigging matches so the dear leader's favourite team can win. It's farcical.By the way, Fifa have never said the red card was unjustified or that it has been overturned. They just said the suspension is postponed until after the tournament - meaning they still think it was a red card, but they're just choosing to ignore the rules of the tournament to allow Balogun to play anyway. Which is, yes, exactly the same as what happened to Ronaldo, and it was also bullshit there, albeit without the added political interference dimension.And I say again, this would still be a disgraceful decision if there was no doubt that the referee made the wrong decision on the pitch. You can't change the fucking rules halfway through the tournament because some fat retard got upset.
>>156434421Does Trump have blackmail on FIFA? How could Trump do anything to them?
>>156434438As if he's not petty enough to put tariffs or sanctions on FIFA if he doesn't get his way.
>>156434454Tariff what, international wire transfers from Saudis to FIFA Swiss bank accounts? top kek
>>156434438You think Infantino is constantly sucking his cock for fun?It would be very easy for Trump to fuck up the world cup even more than he already has. Infantino has a strong vested interest in keeping him happy.
>>156434556How could Trump fuck up the World Cup that FIFA has already fucked up? Was he holding a gun to his head when FIFA made the decision to have coca cola advert breaks at the 20th and 60th minutes? Poor little powerless FIFA who didndu nuffin to ruin the tournament.
>>156432079Our President out corrupted FIFA to get our guy back into the game. Your world leader is a cuck who wouldn't even think to try that. We lead, you follow. America first.
>"Akshually we saved your sport that we totally don't care about by exposing the blatant corruption in it!"Please tell me you're going to do this shit until the next WC.
>>156433535> With a single sentence he proved everyone right who already suspected FIFA was utterly corrupt and that this whole WC was a shitshow. Now every single referee decision will be scrutinised, and the entire WC will forever be tainted by corruption and greed.You make it sound like he did the sport a service desu.
>>156432477why the fuck is everyone ignoring that FIFA sat on this for multiple days after the red card? they weren't going to do shit
>>156432079>Overturning the bullshit Red CardLearn the fucking rules first nigger. The red card is still applied, he just got the 1 match ban resulting from it suspended
>>156434673Last time it was hosted in the winter and it will likely again be hosted in the winter in 8 years. This tournament is beyond saving outside of sending in an interpol task force to Zurich to burn FIFA’s headquarters to the ground and start from scratch.
>shitty ref shitty ref shitty ref shitty refthat "shitty ref" wasn't even going to give Balogun a yellow originally, shut the fuck up Jesus christ
>>156432753>>156432842>>156432979this
>>156432726unironically. they would have praised him for fighting injustice and standing up for an African-American player. So powerful! The media would have spun how racism is fueling harder decisions against black players, showing how Messi didn't even get a warning for a similar incident.
>>156434761I'll take that as a yes then.
>>156434616Yes, both Fifa and Trump are terrible, glad we're on the same page here.
>>156434233you are from now on part of that corruption. your team has been tainted forever by the orange buffoon. it is like cheetos dust staining everything.
>>156434766All the refcam footage we have this wc makes it clearer than ever that referees have a terrible view of the match and it's a miracle if they ever get anything rightThe sooner we replace them all with robots, cameras, sensors etc. the better
>spend 47 million dollars bribing infantino to overturn the red card>still lose the game
>>156434866Still can’t say exactly how Trump would ruin the tournament or what “leaning” on Infantino even means in regards to what kind of power Trump has over FIFA can ya. >>156434886Oh no not my heckin soccerinos
>>156434019>>156434316>>156434375What was this guy's name again? Playing for Manchester United while posting actual schizo shit about how muh GOD Emperor is fighting aliens in outer space
>>156432079lol, ok
>>156434233>It’s still baffling how eurofags don’t know or pretend not to know their biggest sporting tournament is corrupt.the WC is managed by FIFA, not by UEFA, you dumb ginger apelolRENT FREE FOREVER, we won't pay rent btw
yeah man Infant publicly fellating Trump for months before the tournament means nothing, total coincidence just like suspending the red card amiritejust stop already, we weren't born yesterday
When I was in school they would sometimes bus in disabled kids from the nearby special needs school so they could do PE with us and join in with games. I remember this one little girl, I didn't know what was wrong with her, but it was something, was playing a kind of basketball game with us and it was 1 point for getting the ball through the hoop. But the girl got the ball and stood underneath the hoop and threw the ball directly up so it went up through the hoop backwards. This was the only thing the retard girl had done all game, but when it happened the teacher immediately intervened and changed the rules and said "Well, when Sammy does that, that also counts as 2 points" and I remember thinking well that's bullshit, but also the teacher was just trying to make the poor retard girl feel involved and have a good time. Anyway, that's basically what this USA situation reminds me of. You're the retard girl in class being given a free ride.
>>156434766yet var thought it was significant enough for a review. the ref then changed his mind after said review. the card was legal. you and others, have been told repeatedly, in this and other threads, why a red card was given. it was a reckless challenge and a dangerous play regardless of intent. fifa does not want another broken leg in the tournament. you think it was harsh? tough luck, suck it up, other teams had it worse.
>>156435004sorry idk what you're referring to
>>156435128I'm shitting on my countrymen who have whined endlessly for hours every day about how the ref was shitty and corrupt, figure it out retard
>>156432126Yeah, ok. Why are Europeans like this? Suspension for red cards is stupid as fuck
>>156432079nobody overturned shit, you fucking mong. it was a suspended red card with no reasons given, which is why it's so corruptamericans just need to shut the fuck up when it comes to football already
>>156435284You’re going to lose now, congrats dipshit.Wasn’t a red card. You don’t know your own sport
>>156435301yes it wasyou don't even watch sports
>>156435301Well, it was. He gave it as a red. And it was a red card offense.
>>156432079Im convinced that at this point the people making these threads are either trolling or people falseflagging as AmericansOur president and FIFA tried to rig the game and we got humiliated, simple as that
>>156435318>>156435321Samefaggot KWAB
>>156435301shut the fuck up, you American cuntit doesn't matter if it was a red card or not. there is no review process in the World Cup. this was not an overturning, it was a suspension.which is corrupt as fuckkys, you fucking American mongyou and your fucktard president, saying 'he's good at this sort of thing' as if he knows the rulesstop talking about things you know nothing about, you dipshit loudmouth cunt
btw
>>156432079A ref having this much power is stupid as fuck, but yuros are obedient little bitches. Remember, playing with your full roster is rigging the game. LMAO hysterical faggots
>>156435331It was obviously rigged for lelgium though, the ball and gun shit was just a meme distraction to make Europeans tune in at 4 am
>>156435331no coincidence that traffic doubled/tripled here as soon as the tournament startedwe've got a bunch of squatters in here who don't even watch "sportsball" and are only shitting the board up because they want their ebin flag wars
The team was dogshit and got blown out by a B-tier team, but I'd rather they lose with a full team than missing a guy. If it was a sport I cared about though I would prefer having the missing player excuse if I had a crystal ball that told me the team would lose regardless
>>156435360Israeli values are trickling down into American minds
>>156435364That entire bracket was rigged to fuck for you and you crumbled at the first sign of resistance.
>>156435349Blatantly a SEAjeet on a vpn Not one single soul thinks it’s a red card.
>>156435364>distraction to make Europeans tune in at 4 amonly the lelgians stayed uo late tho, nobody else
>>156435383Exactly the opposite, we were blatantly fucked over by the refs one every single possible instance. Fifa knows braindead cattle like you.
>protecting black player that attacked White player was the right choice and I'm tired of pretending it's not why americans are like this?
>>156435360>i'm trolling like i'm based and don't care but really trying to cover up the corruption that my country benefitted from>>156435384some more shitting trolling to save face of your gay country that got dominated by fucking Belgium at homeI didn't say it was a red card what I said was>it doesn't matter if it was a red card or not. there is no review process in the World Cup. this was not an overturning, it was a suspension.gay trolling
>>156435403post passport
>>156435383If Americans cared we would utterly annihilate you, this whole dog and pony show exists for thirdies like you
>>156435413>>156435416Yep, it’s blatantly a SEAjeet. How do you not know Fifa is not an American organization? Hop off your VPN
>>156435434>norgay>thirdie>Norway has a highly developed, high-income economy with an average monthly salary of approximately NOK 63,630 (about €5,500) dumb ginger ape lol
>>156435459>blatantly a SEAjeetno you're blatantly trying>Fifa is not an American organizationnever said tit was you ultra mong
>>156435434Yeah, how much you're not caring is totally convincing.
>>156435480>thirdie dipshit using ai slop checks out Not one single soul ever chooses to like in Shitway>>156435493Hop off the VPN cuck boy
As if going out in the most humiliating way possible wasn't enough, there's going to continue to be double-down threads like these to drag us through the mud even moreThis sucks man
>>156435501The entire reason you denied hilariously levels of riffing is because you know the truth Just like everything else; if america have the slightest shit you would get dominated.
>>156435548ginger, a norwegian street cleaner can buy your house, throw you on the street, buy your shit car, fuck your mother and creampie your girlfriend for gigglesall that and he'd spend 10% of his wagelol, stay mad, show us all how much you don't care, KEK
>>156435559Nice vpn faggot, us losing is unironically humiliating for yurop.>they made all that massive fuss and threatened to stop playing the tournament because they were afraid of a tier 4 team Lol
>>156435579>w-we would've won if we triedYou did try, and you got bodied
>>156435548>Hop off the VPN cuck boyepic trolls my friendreally prove that Balogun being allowed to play wasn't corrupt
>>156435603According to chatGPT maybe, nice try thirdie. No one ever chooses to live in Shitway by choice. It smells like piss
>>156435633BLUD, YOU ARE MADahahahahakeep posting, tell us how you don't care , gingeeeeeeeeer
>>156434421>it's heavily disputedstopped reading
>>156435616>>156435617Hop off the VPN cuck boy and go back to your gacha general Not one single soul thinks Fifa is an American League
>>156432258>the thing is the red card was objectively undeservedNo, retard, it wasn't.
>>156435646>All caps ahahahaha Holy corny, seething thirdie >>156435661>time in Spain >2:10PMWhat a low life ingrate. No wonder your country is so shit
>>156435686>ginger is still replying>n-n-n-n-no, you!are you going to cry, Jamal Vasquez?
>>156435648get off your VPN, stop pretending to be an American to trolldumb fucking faggot
>>156435707>stutter posting Newfaggot larper, begone seething thirdie
>>156435686>the red card was undeserved because someone in spain is on 4chan at 2PMOk, retard.
>>156435723are you mad, ginger?surely you're not mad., aren't you?I thought you do not care?>ginger Jamal is about to call his mother because yuros are mean to him on a chinese anime board\lelz
>>156435722>time in England >1:12 PMGet off your VPN SEAjeet No one thinks fifa is an American organization >>156435730>someone You aren’t a person. It’s the afternoon and you’re here getting shit on by Americans. That’s your life.
>>156432079They will be remembered as cheaters forever and ever. There is no recovery from this.
>ginger is utterly madgood
>>156435756>>156435784>.,He’s crying so hard he’s literally shaking, begone third world shitter>vagueposting He’s so asshurt. Spend this entire day seething at Americans, didn’t even sleep, still a third world shit eater
>>156432079Mutt translation: I'm a fat retard who doesn't like the rules
>>156432126>QuansahWhat a beautiful English name
>>156435661it's not relevant whether it was underserved or not, it's that there never has been a review process for red cards in place for the World Cup. that's why the ban was suspended, not overturned. and why it's corrupt as fuck>>156435764>VPN againwoah, great argumentAmericans are hilarious. so touchy about their country because they think it's the best in the world when actually it's a huge mound of shit. add that to their casualness/ignorance when it comes to soccer and it leads to them being raped on all sidea big fucking joke, kek
>>156435815>>156435826>muh argument Holy newfaggot retardHop off the VPN SEAjeet
>>156435767Infantino/FIFA are to blame, idiotif Trump asks for a review, which didn't even happen btw, all Infantino has to say is that's not something that happens at the World Cup
>>156435826>it was corrupt Why? Because it makes you mad? Because you’re a seething jeetoid mad at Americans? Wait a second you think it’s corrupt yet you watch it? Are you a cuckold? Mentally retatded?
>>156435867You realize it was a marketing ploy to get cattle like you to stay up all night and boost engagement on social media right?
lelmao, Jamal Vasquez is actually madkwaboty
>>156435842check out this newfag. he is getting destroyed since ways from Sunday and acting like his is the one on top. delusional and pathetic! >>156435875i literally explained in my post why it was corrupt. go read it, understand it then come back and either agree with me and tell me why it was wronginstead of just being>touchy American>casual interest in soccerand then spouting retarded shit about something you know nothing about
>>156435941>lower case SEAjeetism >completely ESLHop off the vpn and go back to your gacha general
>>156435941>isaaar i explain you read the numbers on back of card do not redeem i am the telling you sar i explain redd the numbers benchod DO NOT REDEEM
>Jamal is replying with the same lines now>but he's not mad and he doesn't care, lolok, anons, dead thread, move on to the next one
Anyone got a wemb of red card foul?
>>156435996>>156435910>vagueposting on cooldownHumiliation ritual
>>156435996>dead thread But you’re going to bump it 400 times because you’re totally not a seething bitch who has brain damage from staying up 40 hours to seethe at Americans
>>156435901you realise that you're only trying to gaslight because you know your pathetic country that got dominated at home by Belgium benefitted from corruption and you want to hide it, right? touchy American>>156435952>VPNwoah based high IQ American dominating this thread with his based arguments just like American straddles the world with their military and totally won the Iran war. aweseome! fuck yeah, America!>>156435984the red wasn't overturned, it was suspended. there is and has never been a process for review of red cards at the World Cup. therefore it is corrupti'm sorry that you're a touchy American that is trying to save face but that's the reality, despite your casual arguments
>>156435559this
>double reply to my postsoh no, Jamal Vasquez is actually going to skip his ginger ape KFC time, because he needs to reply to melol, seething ape, stay mad ginger
>>156435867>if Trump asks for a review, which didn't even happen btwplease stop
he's still mad, keks
>>156436044Hop off the VPN SEAjeet
>>156436035>muh seetheFact 1:It's not Trump's place to ask about a red card, that's down to the FAFact 2:There is not a review process in place for red cards at the World Cup. This is why the punishment for the red card was suspended, again something that has never happened in the World Cup.you can either accept these two things or you can be a touchy American and make ignorant arguments like the biased casual loudmouth retards Europeans already deem you to be
>>156436089>>156436121>bye guys I’m so done with this thread and tired of being humiliated >doubt vagueposts All time KWAB moment. Bros brain is completely rotted from 40 hours of no sleep no eat only getting raped by America
>>156436111stop what? there wasn't a review. the ban was just suspended
>>156436142Fact 1:You are a SEAjeetFact 2:If you don’t hop off the vpn no one will take you seriously Fact 3:You are cattle who doesn’t realize america could annihilate you at soccer if they gave the slightest fuck
>>156432531>THAT'S PART OF THE GAME, NIGGERYa, and anyone with a brain is saying that is shouldn't be, you retarded gorilla nigger holy shit KILL YOURSELF you worthless faggot
>he's repeating the same lineslmao, mad ginger ape is mad
….Europe was shitting itself in fear and about to burn down school buses because an already bad team doesn’t have to handicap itself?
>>156432531Weak fucking pussy faggot. You take the cake for most fagged country in Scandinavia. Congrats, Mohammed.
>>156436178>doesn't argue the matter at hand because he knows he will lose>look at me i'm winning for America we're still the biggest gorilla in the jungle America strong America win Iran warhaha pathetic insecure face saving touchy American
>>156436211Nice vaguepost seething thirdie
>same replies from Jamalyawn
>>156436198>anyone with a brain is saying that is shouldn't bedoesn't mean you change how things are done in the middle of a tournament, you spastic
>>156436217umm sir... playing with your full roster is literally RIGGING THE GAME
>>156436242>saaaar da argument saaar the Brahmin caste Hop off the VPN, there is no argument. Fifa is not an American org
>>156436289you won the Iran war, congrats you not a face saving pussy
>>156436272>refreshes on cooldown to vaguepostYou’ve been awake getting raped by Americans for 40 hours what’s a few more
>>156436288Can you imagine if Olympic actual football happened and the bongland QB got suspended but reinstated? You think any American would be seething? Nah since we aren’t subservient loser cucks we would have celebrated it
>all he can post is "Hop off the VPN">all he can post is "wowza, you were awake for 40h"lame, patheticgrow the fuck up, ginger, and wash your nasty teethlol
>>156436321Hop off the VPN SEAjeet
>>156432709>ruled against your team<blatantly wrongAre all americans this fucking retarded or are you just a prime example
like clockwork kek
>>156436389Nice vaguepost seething thirdie Awake for 40 hours seething at Americans. Completely obsessed with Americans who mentally dominate him
>>156432126England played better without him.
>>156436389>>156436422Oooh he’s mad as fuck. What comes with being a third worlder I guess.
>Jamal can't think of a better combackyeah, Jamal is buckbroken and mad lel
Stay mad europoors
>>156436173yeah and he asked for there to be a review, your post read like he didn't askso many people are on Trump's cock you can't blame me for getting confused
>>156436460 Vagueposting on cooldown? KWAB
>ameripoors shartin ITTlol, ngmi
>>156436391were you on a VPN while your country was totally winning the Iran war?
>>156436484You are here vagueposting on cooldown because I command you to do so
>ameripoor seething like a motherfucker>keeps replying with the same stale replies he posted 1h agooh boy, kwaboty for sure
Both of you are retarded. Be useful for once.>>156436008
>>156436463okay, no problem. just to be clear, my post was saying that no review happenedin other words: the red card was not overturned, the punishment was suspended
>>156436484>>156436536Vaguepost = mentally reaped Vaguepost = I am obsessed Vaguepost = I have lost an argument
>>156436536You are spamming on cooldown because ameriCHADs live rent free in your thirdie dipshit head
>>156432079ur 2nd tier striker didnt help much tho.
>>156436629Kinda makes you all look insanely retarded yeah
yuroswine mad as fuck
>>156436650We'vd already defeated you, total defeat!Your burgers are obliterated and your big gulp drinks are on the bottom of the Atlantic. Totally defeated and begging for a deal! Praise Kołłątaj!
>>156436648sry but monaca is just euro leaque second tier football, thats his lvl.
>>156432258>the thing is the red card was objectively undeservedIt was not, you fucking moron. Read the rules. Very clear red, actually. US pundits are biased morons who don't understand or care about the sport, like you yourself. There have been quite a few seriously fucked up ref calls this tournament. This was not one of them.Also, it was not overturned. It still stands. They just overturned the consequences that always come with it.
>>156435611>if you beat your opponents they winLiteral cope of the century.Mutts tried every dirty trick in the book: refusing entry for accredited referees, the easy af match tree, the rigged VAR, their Don "suggesting" to suspend a red card etc. And they still got utterly rekt by a C class European country 1/10th of their size. Total European dominance.
>>156436872*monaco
>>156433535Everyone is talking about the USA, the loser of the match, instead of the winner. Trump won. When will you niggers learn?
>>156436914Cope of the century is whatever that gay flag is supposed to be
>>156432079It was a good run from a mildly decent team with good vibes that was completely ruined by your fat senile pedo president.KWAB
>>156437033>translation:>I am seething that we have to play Belgium and not a free win US team
lost what little respect I had for euros over this. You guys really are estrogen laced fags crying over spilled milk
ameripoors seething like apes ITT
>>156437073No, I meant what I said.In fact I think most people kinda liked* the usatian team as underdog until the riggi.
>>156437154>>156437211Seething thirdies stayed up late and rotted their brains
>>156432079its joever plebbit can go back to not caring
>amerilard ameripoor is still furiously begging for an (you)>ameripoor is still seething like an unwashed ginger apedesu, without amerilards to make fun of, this site would be pretty unfunny, ngl desu
>>156432079The fact we got blown out makes the yurosissy seething so much funnier. You would have had a point if it was like 0-1 or 1-2 but it wasn’t even a competition yet they wanted an even greater handicap
>>156437370>be third worlder from a country no one has heard of>vaguepost about Americans all day and have no other interaction other than Americans making fun of it Strange lifestyle choice lad, it’s probably like 5 am in whatever shithole you live in too
not a single (you), apestay mad lol
>>156437438A reply is a reply, it’s even funnier when it’s a vaguepost, the ultimate sign of obsessive seething. It’s like when a drunk gets kick out and shouts at random pedestrians until he shits himself to death in an ally. The ultimate humiliation ritual
>ape Jamal Vasquez is getting madderkekaroos
>>156437564Nice vaguepost thirdie
funny what a 4-1 loss can do to a non-white, unwashed ameripoor ginger apelel
>>156437594Funny what a real country does to third worlders
>>156437628Calling yourself "thid worlders" is a bit harsh, anon, even if not entirely inaccurate.
>>156437682German “humor”
>>156437697Why do Americans always think that factual statements are supposed to be funny?
>>156432079its was the morally right choice but in the end it didnt even matter because he was a useless nigger during all game
>>156437731>rigging a tournament is the "morally right choice"Typical American sentiment on display.
>>156432258It doesn't matter if a red was deserved or not, it's a fact he got a red card. There are always decisions and red cards where people say afterwards that was objectively undeserved. The point is he got it and should be punished like every other player who got red, deserved or not. And his red was an alright call, could have been yellow, but he got red. Americans just can't take Ls. They should have taken the L and start with a different player like every normal nation would have done, now they lost even with special political treatment, that's even more embarrassing.
>>156437799>>156437725>>156437809What’s embarassing is shitting yourself in fear of the US when it wasn’t even a good team
>>156437830>shitting yourself in fear of the USAh, yes, more delusions. Kek.
>>156437809>German flag >they should have just followed orders unquestionably!I don’t like where this is going
>>156437809>Americans just can't take LsThey refuse the L only to get served an even bigger L. Ironic.
>>156437852All of Europe was in absolute hysteria that america had the ability to play without a handicap. What’s that is not fear? Ball and gun could’ve taken a gun and shot a player for his red card. If he played next game you still shouldn’t have been afraid
I would not be shocked if USA claim that the decision to overturn a suspension despite it benefiting them was against the rules and therefore a rematch should take place.
>>156437893lollmaonobody feared you, we just called out corrupt cheatingas you saw, your dumbass negro didn't change shit
>>156437917Well yeah, you have American derangement syndrome
>>156432258lolWhy does everything Trump does out of jealousy of Obama?
>>156437893>was in absolute hysteria that america had the ability to play without a handicap.Because it's cheating. Believe it or not, people don't like that. Had it been fucking South Africa, people wouldn't have liked it either. Only complete morons like yourself would think that having a problem with open corruption is "fear".
>>156437934>>156437948Holy cope, yuros were so afraid they were discussing boycotting the World Cup itself.Playing with all your players is not cheating. You are afraid of competition
>>156437958>they were discussing boycotting the World Cup itself.And you know what, seeing the shitshow this world cup is in all respects, they should have boycotted it.
>>156437948No this doesn’t check out because the exact same red card suspension rule was applied 4 other times this tournament and no one cared. You went into hysteria for no reason because you were afraid
>>156437958don't be a braindead rule breaking monkey next timedid you also get mad after ICE jailed you when you went rioting and stealing?
>>156437893Did you see Merz sperging out pissing and shitting himself begging and pleading to FIFA to overturn that rescinded goal that would have gotten Germany into the next round in their Paraguay match? Contrary to popular belief you retards aren't the center of the universe.
4MER1CA
>>156437990>wall of seethe KWAB
>>156437853>they should have just followed ordersWhen you play monopoly with your friends or family, do you follow the agreed upon rules of the game? Or do you just take all the money from the bank halfway through and scream at the other players that they can fuck off if they don't like it?
>>156438019>2 short lines of text>wallreally exposing yourself
>>156437995No, I don’t know who that is. He sounds like a faggot. You claim someone else thinks they are the center of the universe but in the exact same post imply that anyone gives a shit about some German jobber who lost earlier than the US
>>156438028No rules were broken. The suspension was upheld numerous other times this tournament.You were afraid of america because america owns your mentally weak psyche
>>156432079>USA lost fair and square thanks to the overturn.if by "fair and square" you mean that we got blown out by belgium at full power since trump provoked them into actually trying then sure. the game would have been more competitive otherwise though.
>>156437984>the exact same red card suspension rule was applied 4 other times this tournamentIncorrect. It was used to waive cards BEFORE the tournament.Personally, I'm not a fan of that either, but the reasoning is completely different.
>>156438043>lower case KWAB>>156438079>um axhsullt>incorrectYou are such a poser retard, legit room temp IQ
>>156438079>the reasoning is completely different.The reasoning being america owns your shit nation and you only get butthurt over america because of it We have military bases in your fake country. The other countries didn’t, hence you get asshurt. You are conquered.
>>156438068>No rules were broken.Trump calling in to meddle itself was already against FIFA statutes. Everything that followed was even worse. This whole process broke several rules. And ironcally, you admitted that already when you cried about having to "follow orders".
>>156438096>>156438134Do you fucktards even have an argument other than "muh americum exceptionalism"?
>>156438046>American education
>>156438140>>156438164>>156438169Seethe. Go back to masturbating over literal shit, conquered retard. You didn’t care about the rules until American used the same exact rule.
>>156438140INFANTino
>>156438178>burger loses at competitive sports>throws temper tantrumtale as old as time
>>156437995I don’t know the context b her if Germany got refballed out of the tournament on bullshit yes you should’ve raised a fuss instead of blindly accepting the authoritarian boot of FIFA like the retarded bugmen you are. And if anything to spare the world that atrocious Paraguay knockout game too, it is morally wrong not to contest such a possible result
>>156432079I wanted you fucking retards to win so badly just to see this board seethe about it
>>156438218>shit fapper has American military bases in his fake country >can’t form an argument to save his life >defends fifa corruption >gets humiliatedAverage yuroshit
>>156438218All of Europe threw a tantrum for 48 hours at the mere notion of America playing with 11 players
>>156434960First of all, Trump dissing the world cup alone would be enough to hugely embarrass Fifa (not welcome by the leader of the main host)Secondly since he's a cult leader none of the remaining MIGAs would watch any games if he told them it sucksThirdly he can influence media coverage and popularity of the eventFourthly he can influence transport throughout the countryFifthly he can instruct Republican governors not to cooperate with Fifa any more than they absolutely have to, such as providing insufficient policing or letting towns get filthy, obstructing access to stadia, cancelling food and drink contracts etc.Imagine Fifa want to do a big show for the final and Trump just gets them all barred from entering the country or something. There's a million ways he could fuck up the tournament.I could keep going but frankly I think it's just bizarre you are trying to argue Trump has no power over a major sporting event happening within the USA to begin with? Of course he does? Fifa themselves do very little besides organising and distribution, they are reliant on host nations to do 90% of the work.
>>156438224The point is that even if we got refballed it's ultimately our fault because we shouldn't have let it come down to a one goal difference against a significantly worse team. If a team instantly collapses because of a shitty ref, then they don't deserve to get far in the tournament.
>>156438271>the mere notion of America playing with 11 playersYou would have played with 11 players anyway, you complete and utter fucking moron.Do you even understand ANYTHING about the sport we're talking about here? Or did you just come over from /pol/ to shitpost?
>>156432079I didn’t watch the game and woke up when I saw the score I laughed at loud.Europeans threw a bitch fir over this? Imagine if they just quietly beat our ass instead of crying and moaning like it was the end of the world. Kinda ruined the whole moment
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>>156438350So you’re admitting you’re a subservient cuckold, yeah checks out. No wonder we have military bases in your fake country. >>156438362You are ESL
man this really is a sport for semen slurpers. All this kvetching over a decision made by a corrupt organization you keep simping for
>>156438398>You are ESLAnd still speaking better English than you do. Imagine that.
>>156438400>a corrupt organization you keep simping forNo one here is simping for the American government.Oh, wait ... did you mean FIFA? Kek, that's even more preposterous. Surely you must realize that literally no one likes FIFA outside of third world shitholes like those African dictatorships or the the US.
>>156438419>ESL doesn’t know what speak means
>>156438467>literally no one likes fifa Yet you are simping for them and worshipping them like god. You literally said earlier they are gods and you can never dispute their decision even if you get refballed Cuckold
>>156438499Why are you lying? Just discuss this issue like a normal person instead of doing whatever embarrassing shit you're going for here.
>>156438552Of course you would like to think you’re conversing with shit, freak
>>156432079they did not overturn the red card, FIFA just chose to ignore the penalty
>>156438563weird bait
>>156438552Conversing is something done between equals. I am a human being.You are a conquered bugman.I think fifa is shit.You think they are God.
>>156438499>Yet you are simping for themWho here is simping for fucking FIFA? People here are literally calling them out for their corruption.
>>156438636>who here is simping for fifaYou are slurping their nuts like a total faggot
>>156438611reddit spacing
>>156438499>>156438611this guy's brain just broke huh
>>156438653You're seeing things that simply aren't there.Do you mayhaps suffer from the same mental illnesses your president is?
>>156438611lmfao you have no idea how much euros hate feefer
>>156438636Every single yuroshit crying about muh rules the red card muh ball and gun. A red card preventing a player from playing in the next game is not intrinsic to the sport. It is a rule that FIFA created. By upholding these FIFA created rules like it’s some holy bible, you are simping for them.Not just that, you are saying their word is absolute
I am going home to suck my bf's dick now, finally.
>>156438698>holy biblemy dude you are living deep in the headcanon
>>156438682I do in fact know that Europeans are spiritually dead cattle >>156438675Here let me quote you directly>The point is that even if we got refballed it's ultimately our faultYou are a cuckold who worships fifa.I will repeat your own words >if we get refballed it’s our fault
>>156438698>A red card preventing a player from playing in the next game is not intrinsic to the sport.True. In most rules and regulations, it's a three games suspension. The world cup is exceptionally lenient about that, probably because it's mostly a series of knockout games, so a game ban weighs more than usual.
>>156438698I don't care who makes the fucking rules. If you choose to selectively apply or ignore the rules, you are undermining the integrity of the sport.
>>156438730>the holy red card suspension ordained by the fifa rule book>americans are committing heresy! Euros worships fifa like god
>>156438749>>156438764>slurping FIFA nutsNo wonder you have other country’s military bases in your fake country
>>156438777well there has to be some agreed-upon framework to ensure fairness, no? That doesn't make FIFA worshipped or infallible, but something must exist collectively.
>>156432079Definitely.>>156432126This was a red.
>>156438749In most sports leagues there’s an automatic appeal process for suspensions but apparently not in euro land because you are completely subservient to any authority figure.
>>156438818and you have trump's cock so far up your ass you're giving him a bonus blowjob
>>156438827It's an ironic thing to say when VAR red cards are brand fucking new in this world cup and obviously being handed out in weird arbitrary ways. The real time red card exists for a reason, it has to be obvious, intentional, enough for a guy on the field to see it.
>>156438827>agreed-upon framework This goes against everything soccer stands for. Europeans can’t even agree how long a game should go on.They literally just let refs make up the time based on vibes. What cucks!
>>156438843>dood /pol/It doesn’t matter which geriatric is President they’ll still be military commander over the bases in your non country LMAO
>>156432126Honestly the suspension following a red makes no sense. You already get sent off and the team goes a man down. Maybe in the days when you got a straight red for trying to murder someone but now the game is so soft you can’t just suspend someone on a technicality like that
>>156438863ok so we should appeal our loss and play the next round of the tournament because it feels right
>>156438732>let me quote youIronically, that wasn't me.But who cares? This has nothing at all to do with FIFA or defending them.Fact is: Germany usually gets the short end of the stick from referees. Never was FIFA's favourite. It's always been this way.That's why the German mentality simply is that you need to be so dominant that no matter how hard they try to rig it against you, you'll win anyway. If you concede against a shitty team like Paragay, that means you've failed. If you only manage to score twice, then that means you made yourself vulnerable to referee interference (which is exactly what happened). No, it's not "fair". The game is not "fair". The world is not "fair". But you can either be a sore loser and throw a tantrum about that like you are doing, or you can go out with your head held high and admit that you still should have done better.
>>156438764Post game reviews and overturning penalties is completely normal. Refs should have absolute power.
>>156438902should be like targeting. The half you were in, and the next half. if you're sent off in 2H of a game, then you have to sub in the next one.
>>156438863>This goes against everything soccer stands for.You literally have no idea what you're talking about.I assume you're the same guy who earlier ITT thought that the Balogun suspension meant that you wouldn't get to field eleven players?
>>156438902>lets invent new rules for my own benefit
>>156438923>not meYou don’t fool anyone.>German mentality Is “we are subservient cuckolds who have other country’s military bases in our fake country” “we are spiritually broken and conquered people so we accept any authority figure as absolute”It’s not romantic. It’s not masculine. It’s gay and stupid. You are brainless losers
they didnt overturn it retard, they delayed it
>>156438859VAR was used for reds in 2022
>>156438979It's just something completely unheard of in American sports, you have to understand. When a player gets suspend by a committee review after the game, not by a single ref that had a bad day
>>156432079>bullshit red cardlollmao
>>156438902>You already get sent off and the team goes a man down.Yeah. How much does that matter when it happens, say, in extra time? Exactly, very little. That's why there are consequences for the next game. You don't want players to get away scott-free just based on WHEN in the game their offense happens.If you did allow that, the number of harsh fouls would increase massively towards the end of the game, particularly from smaller teams that get desperate.
>>156439017this boi is BOILIN
>>156438936The appropriate organisation for that already exists. Spoiler, it's not Infantino. Furthermore, the red card wasn't overturned, they chose to ignore the penalty because it inconvenienced the host.
>>156439017What's your obsession with US military bases about anyway? You do realize that NATO countries have bases all over NATO territory, right? Germany's building one in Lithuania right now.Do you think partners in an international defense pact having military presence in each others countries is a bad thing? Really?
>>156439041See>>156439017
>>156439129>partnersHoly cope. We own your fucking shithole. You are broken and subservient cattle. No wonder you worship fifa.
>>156439165trying to hard m8
>>156439222Get off your vpn
>>156439165>Holy cope.Well, considering the US is literally the only NATO member to ever invoke article 5 over what was basically a small terrorist attack that the US themselves then escalated into a full-scale war, and all NATO members did have your back. Yeah, I think you should be more humble. Because after all the anti-NATO bullshit Humpty Trumpty has spouted and how we've all learnt that we cannot rely on the US, you're probably going to be on your own the next time around.
>>156439277>membersYou are are bitches. It’s not a partnership. You have no will of your own, you accept authority. America.
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>>156439333I didn’t see Mexicans shitting their pants in rage over this
This has become a dumb talking point because each side are having two separate conversations.The United States got humbled big time, and while they were always going to get btfo eventually, had achieved a sort of "aw that's cute" status plus actually had done a surprisingly good job hosting.Trump pulled out a huge rug from everyone and put a damper on the whole thing. This is unironically one of the most embarrassing things he has ever done, because there was absolutely no reason to do it. The United States is not that good. They are who they finished as: a team that can Crack into the round of 16 and has the infrastructure and funding to look at times good on the attack against lesser programs but will implode the second they come against a nation that actually has the sport baked into its soul from almost birth. This shouldn't be surprising to anyone, and was always going to happen, but so many Americans bought into the hype of a sport they normally don't even have a club they root for. There was no reason for Trump to make them the enemy of the world.The only thing Euros are at all wrong about is that, yeah, they are way too much if a bunch of cucks to officiating and no matter how many times they scream "that's part of the game" will override the fact that bad officiating is bad officiating, and it's not "soulful" in the slightest to pretend nothing should ever be done about it. It's as retarded as the boomers who think pitch challenges in baseball are ruining the game. Like no, sorry Mr. 80 year old, if he said he threw a strike and he was wrong, then he was wrong. But again, even that being said, this is not the way to go about doing it. Having the president pressure the organization? Yeah that's just a bad look. The ends don't justify the means, even if the ends were on some level justified.My advice to American posters would be to just take the L and enjoy the rest of the tournament.
>>156437853You mean being a civilized person who understands sportsmanship. And how do you play your sports in America? rule of the jungle? street rules for whoever has the louder mouth? That's how you want to win your games? even a world cup?
>>156439333And, guess what: They didn't listen to him at all. As it should be.Also, there's a difference between opposing a procedural organisational detail and pressuring the sport's governing body into rigging a match.
>>156439361I have a whole new respect for south Americans after this. Didn't see a single one of them twisting and contorting over something that obviously wasn't going to make a difference
>>156439441they literally did listen to him are you retarded?
>>156439441The game was moved back retard
>>156439465the outrage was always forced.it was obvious from the get go.
>>156439441They quite literally moved back the time from a mid day game where it would’ve been hot as fuck to a night game which is a considerable advantage to England. In actuality probably a bigger deal than ball and gun playing against Belgium.
>>156439470>>156439490Fair enough then. I stand corrected.Still a massive difference to what Trump did.
>>156439441>Trying to dunk on Americans>got blown out by a teammate America beat>can't even cite basic facts on 4chanLmao
>>156439516The controversy for muh red card only happened to get stupid Europeans to hate watch what was a boring blowout at 5AM or whatever and being the low IQ simps they are, they got successfully baited
>>156439535I respect that.And I agree.Trump ruins everything.Hopefully the Democrats don't run a communist so that we can get past this nonsense.
>>156439535The the massive difference is it’s not America. Because it’s america which triggers you.
>>156439386this.Dunking on Trump and Americans for seeking special treatment is warranted, but the outrage is also pretty pathetic given how rigged and corrupt FIFA historically has been.Remember the officiating in South Africa? That was a shit show if I've ever seen one.
>>156439535It takes way more effort and corruption to move back a broadcast of this caliber on a short notice than reinstate one player.
>>156432746Loig and Union also both have red cards
>>156439386You are stupid if you think trump making a phone call puts a bigger damper on the tournament than rigged VARshit like what happened to Croatia
>>156438271The red was for this one player only, you could have started with a different player in the game against Belgium. It would of course be 11 players, not 10. The one man less is only for the game where the player got taken out of the match with the red. >>156438398>You are ESLNo shit Sherlock.
>>156439624>It takes way more effort and corruption to move back a broadcast of this caliberYou might have missed this, but FIFA were originally trying to move it to an earlier time. Six hours earlier. Also, no, it really does not.
The thing is, they didn't overturn the card. They just changed the punishment. Balogun still has the red card, they just suspended the ban for a year. They didn't even have the guts to say "we have reviewed the incident and determined that it shouldn't have been a red card", probably because then they'd have to deal with every single card being appealed, they just said "We have decided the punishments laid out in our own rulebook are wrong in this one specific instance".
>>156439723>You are stupid if you think trump making a phone call puts a bigger damper on the tournament than rigged VARshit like what happened to CroatiaIt puts a damper on us and our standing in the world of the sport>inb4 hurrrr we don't careYeah but like... it was nice, wasn't it? To be a part of something bigger? It was fun. And to host it, and be a big part of it. Not everything needs to be so disastrous.
>>156432258>MUH OBAMAIt's been almost 20 years m8, let it go son
>>156439759>it does not This is disgustingly incorrect. Moving a time for a big broadcast is a big deal. There is a lot of money and time that goes into broadcasting rights, advertising rights, etc not just for the broadcast of the event itself but surrounding features.Moving a time for such a broadcast involves actual negotiation, actual money. Whereas one player having their suspension delayed takes zero effort. It is far more insidious and corrupt to move a time solely to be favorable to your team.
>>156439723>rigged VARshit like what happened to CroatiaThing is that no one was stupid enough to brag about rigging that one. But Trump bragged about his rigging of the Balogun suspension. You are right that this incident is only the tip of the iceberg. But we do have the tip this time, and now the whole tournament is in disrepute. Before, things like that Croatia game could have been excused as ref errors. Now, no one is going to even entertain that notion anymore.
>>156439726americans see a foreign flag and say "ESL", how dumb those mutts can be?
>>156439779The whole thing is a mess and I think FIFA actually manages to catch a break now because this has been so negatively recieved that they wouldn't dare pull this again.Can you imagine how much more significant it would have been if this had happened with an actual contender?Imagine Messi getting a red and then being allowed to play the next game.
>>156432726>>156434817Dennis fuck off and kys lmao
>>156439883>being allowed to play with 11 players is rigging Lol
>>156439779agreed, but they also did this for a couple additional specific instances prior to the tournament
>>156439779I mean they should stay consistent. If Messi didn't get a red card then neither should Balogun
>>156439829>Not everything needs to be so disastrous.I have never said it was an I was literally refuting you. Trump making a phone call does fuck all to the tournament. Europeans are just mental weaklings who threw a hissyfit for nothing
>>156439915does this guy still think a suspended player means you are down a man in the next match?
>>156439870>Moving a time for a big broadcast is a big deal.Again, no, it is not. FIFA doesn't care about broadcasters. They have the right to air the event, not to decide when the matches take place. If they find they are unable to air some match that's been moves, be it forward or backward, that's their problem, always has been. Most broadcasters around the world have historically simply reacted by swapping around their programming a bit. Often on much shorter notice. Or even when a game was interrupted for hours due to unforeseen cirumstances (like that Swedish player having a heart attack during the Euros 2020). It never was a big deal. I get that you are new to this sport, but this is not at all unprecedented in international football.
>>156439966the issue with the Trump call is that it opens the door to FIFA just shooting from the hip in the future. That's the outrage.
>>156439883FIFA rigged it, they made that decision. Trump and his people just asked for an appeal.
>>156440005Yes. And he keeps repeating it even after being corrected on it twice ITT already.He's obviously a shitposter from /pol/ who cares more about Trump than the sport.
>>156440030It is in fact a big deal. You have no argument. It happens quickly and often because there is a lot of money and people working to make these broadcasts work. Holy shit you are actually deranged
>>156440030>FIFA doesn't care about broadcastersyes, FIFA is notoriously flippant about their biggest revenue streams. They don't care about that all
>>156440094>>156440005You are samefagging. I have never once made the statement that you claim I am implying. You are simply a low IQ ESL with a poor grasp of English.
>>156440094yeah I think at this point he's just autistically baiting
>>156440133??? dude you said here >>156439915"being allowed to play with 11 players is rigging"wtf does that mean? in what way did the suspension of the suspension allow us to to play with 11 players?
>>156440086>Trump and his people just asked for an appeal."Asked for" is a bit of a stretch for when a host country's goverment starts pressuring a sporting organisation. They also admitted what they did and that they were instrumental in what happened. If we cannot take an admission at face value, what evidence of rigging do we ever allow?
>>156440141Samefag
>>156432258>the thing is the red card was objectively undeservedthe amerishart cries out in PAIN while he stabs you in the back
>>156432079It was completely the wrong decision. Actual football countries know that sometimes the luck goes for you and sometimes it doesn't, and in tournaments it's important to expect bad luck and keep going regardless. Creating a massive hullabuloo when you need to be focused on the next game is the last thing you want. Instead, you mufa'd yourselves and kwabbed out of there.
>>156440188Holy ESL. 11 players is exactly what it means 11 players. Not 10 players + 1 cope substitution
>>156440096>>156440103Please educate yourselves about the history of international football and its broadcasting. You guys are impossible to debate this with because you lack both the insight into the topic and the drive to learn about it.
>>156440234so you any players besides balogun don't count and mean we funcitonally have 10? and you're accusing other people of being ESL because they think this is something a retard would say?
>>156439361Probably because the mexican camp also opposed fifa moving the match to the earlier time slot.
>>156440252i don't agree with that other guy, but you managed to reply with something stupid. Broadcast rights are FIFA's biggest revenue source. They might exercise their leverage and do whatever they want most of the time, but keeping broadcasters happy is 100%, without a doubt, unequivocally important to them as an organization who has proven repeatedly that they put revenue above all else. Don't lecture me on being naive or uneducated, you're denying the obvious like a retard.
>>156440030>>156440252>debate There is no debate. Broadcast are what generate most of the revenue, mostly from advertisers. There is a metric shit ton of time, effort, and money that goes into these broadcasts. Partnerships and negotiations with advertisers, with broadcasting rights. You are being dishonest on a truly reprehensible and vile level. Of course they have moved times and changed broadcasts. The ENTIRE INDUSTRY IS SUPPORTED BY THEM.
>>156432079fifa couldve just said no. and its not like he did absolute shit during the game either who cares. im tired of this monkey screeching about anything america does.
>>156440202USMNT had nothing to do with it though ever. You all are treating them very unfairly!
>>156440277Holy ESL
>>156440191Trump publicly confirmed he called Infantino to request a review of the red card, saying he believed it wasn't a foul. His administration also coordinated with U.S. Soccer and lawyers to submit arguments and evidence.FIFA's committee then suspended the ban under Article 27 (a rule they have used before for Ronaldo and others). They stated it was their independent decision.The call and outcome both happened. We don't know for sure why the FIFA committee made that decision.
>>156439361Mexicans wanted an evening kickoff and that's a fake news story anyway. The decision was made on the basis of weather predictions. It's also completely reasonable to reject any changes to the terms of a competition than what was initially agreed to.
>>156440591I don’t really care because I’m not weak minded, you playing at night provides more competition like balogun playing
>>156439891They would just not give Messi the red in the first place. The whole problem is the sport is all about rigging and Europoors are mad that we wanted a different kind of rigging than they are used to
>>156440325>but you managed to reply with something stupid.Again: PLEASE educate yourself.FIFA have never cared about broadcasters' schedules much. Moving matches around (for eaxmple due to weather conditions) in big tournaments has been common for decades. Broadcasters are used to it and react accordingly.Only Americans who never experienced it before would think this is somhow a big deal or that broadcasters would throw a tantrum.
>>156440342>There is no debate.Not with an uninformed moron like yourself, no.Again: There is ample historic precedent that you are simply unaware of. Yet you double down.
>>156440716Of course it’s common. The broadcasts are the backbone of the sport. You are stupid as fuck and dishonest. Mentally a coward.You know what’s also common? Flying. It takes a lot of effort for a 747 to be in service.
>>156440716>>156440737You are deeply, mentally retarded. No one said broadcasters would throw a tantrum. They are used to this, it’s their job, it’s their industry. What was said was that it takes a lot of effort, time, negotiation, and money. Which it does. The reason they can change broadcasts is because of the meticulously negotiation beforehand and what will happen after the fact.
>>156440558>Trump publicly confirmed he called Infantino to request a review of the red card, saying he believed it wasn't a foul. His administration also coordinated with U.S. Soccer and lawyers to submit arguments and evidence.And this alone was against FIFA's statutes. Governments are not allowed to do that.But they went further and admitted that they actually had an influence on the decision.>We don't know for sure why the FIFA committee made that decision.You cannot be serious here. This is one of the clearest cases of corruption in the history of football. We have an admission of guilt.
>>156440693You dont get it, they changed the rules mid tournament ,with no consultation. It puts the whole tournament to question., its not a small thing.
>>156440839>>156440840No rules were broken. You are stupid
>This thread is still going Has to either be trolling or deep in denialWe lost bro, and we lost in pretty much the worst way possible, there's no getting around it
>>156440716>Broadcasters are used to it and react accordingly.No shits, it’s a billion dollar industry with thousands of employees.
>>156440878Yeah cos they changed the rules.. via political coercion
>>156440918The only ones in denial are Europeans>they were actually afraid of US
>>156440839Governments lobbying sporting bodies happens (see Starmer on England's kickoff time). FIFA statutes ban undue interference in national federations, but a head of state requesting a review of a disciplinary decision isn't automatically a violation, especially when FIFA's own committee cited Article 27 and called it independent.They admitted asking for a review and coordinating arguments. They did not admit "guilt," bribery, or forcing an outcome. FIFA applied an existing rule. Unusual and poor optics? Yes. "Clearest case of corruption in history" with an "admission of guilt"? That's an overreach, no evidence of rule-breaking or payoffs has been shown so far.We should be talking about FIFA and Infantino rather than Trump honestly.
>>156440815>They are used to this, it’s their job, it’s their industry. What was said was that it takes a lot of effort, time, negotiation, and money.It literally does not take a lot of effort or time. You just agreed that braodcasters are used to it. They know how to deal with it. It's at most a minor inconvenience for most of them.It also takes no negotiations at all, simply because there is nothing to be negotiatiated. Not between FIFA and the broadcasters at least. FIFA have a lot of liberty with their game schedules. The broadcasting contracts already take care of that.As for the money, yeah, maybe broadcasters lose money if a game takes place in the afternoon or at night rather than at prime time. But it's a world-wide event anyway; for most broadcasters around the world, the game was gonna start at some ungodly hour anyway. Maybe some broadcasters in South East Asia rejoiced because they finally got to air that one game at prime time.
>sports league doesn’t care about their broadcast partners Literally the stupidest thing I’ve ever read in my entire life
>>156441027>there is nothing to be negotiated LolDudeHoly shitBroadcasts are the primary source of revenue. It’s literally everything.
>>156440985>(see Starmer on England's kickoff time).That you're still trying to equate that with influencing a sporting decision is ridiculous. Just like playing down Trumps clear and admitted influence on the decision that took place.Not sure whether you're just playing devil's avocado here or whether you have some long-term agenda.>We should be talking about FIFA and Infantino rather than Trump honestly.Why not talk about both? In this case at least, they're in it together.
>>156440716I never said tantrum, my desperate friend. But to maximize their revenue, FIFA at a minimum needs to look like they're taking care of their golden goose. You said they "don't care". That's pants on head. You have a tendency to take a fair point and push it way too far.
>>156440935And what was that coercion exactly?
>>156441069>Broadcasts are the primary source of revenue.You do understand that this has nothing to do at all with the point we're debating over, right?Broadcasters pay for the rights to air the event beforehand. They negotiate the sums beforehand. FIFA certainly can bend over backwards for them (like they obviously did with "hydration breaks"), but they'll never negotiate out the clauses that allow them to move around game schedules.Now, with the event in progress, and all the money secured already, why the hell would FIFA care about moving or not moving a game start, something they're clearly allowed to do?
>>156441030you're a moron. International games get their timeslots changed all the time, because of timezone fuckery. Arguing this is anywhere near ignoring a suspension is ridiculous.
>>156441027>The broadcasting contracts already take care of that.No, they don’t. They provide contingencies. The contract will allow broadcast times to be moved but will include a metric shit load of clauses that have cross negotiations with the broadcasting partner and other partners on the same network. After a broadcast is moved it prompts reconsideration and reimbursement. But of course it’s no big deal because broadcasts of these scope are supported with thousands of human being and tens of thousand of working hours to get these changes made because it’s an entire industry by itself.You actually think with sums of money this large some rep from a network is signing a contract simpler than a car note? You stupid fucking ingrate. You think it’s a one page doc that says >we pay you X amount for Y broadcast today lol Jesus Christ
>>156441217You're not bringing new information to light. Do you think future broadcast right bids will reflect the expected value provided to broadcasters, based on how FIFA works with them now and previously?
>>156439386>"that's part of the game" will override the fact that bad officiating is bad officiatingYeah, and things can change in that regard, but not in a running tournament where everyone else has to obey the standing rules, that's the damn point. We understand that refs make wrong calls, that is the nature of a human making a decision on the pitch, for good or bad for one of two teams. Germany lost a goal and the tournament against Paraguay because of a mild contact with the goal keeper which was laughable. Yet we can just take that L. I actually think they should have just played better and win more sovereign and dominant over Paraguay. I am more disappointed over the bad performance of the current German national team than I am about a stupid ref decision.
>>156432691It wasn't a challenge, he was just putting his foot down then the other guy put his foot in the way. The fuck should Balogun have done, grown psychic powers? Fallen over?
>>156441217>They negotiate the sums beforehand. They negotiate the terms, not the actual sums that will be paid. Because the sum has to be determined based on a number of factors. >>156441237Flights get delayed every single day but the resume. Doesn’t mean a fuck load of effort doesn’t go into the air carrier industry
the red card wasn't even overturned, which negates the "he didn't deserve it" argument. they've more or less just moved the game where he needs to face his ban.
>>156441119>FIFA at a minimum needs to look like they're taking care of their golden goose. You said they "don't care".FIFA have gotten away with the same thing for decades, anon. And "unforeseen circumstances", in this case expected thunderstorms, give them a strong point to argue. Broadcasters accept it because for most of them, it's either just a minor inconvenience that they expect to happen at some point anyway, or the deal is just too lucrative to pass up. FIFA really do not need to worry about broadcasters turning them down - unless maybe they start inconveniencing them all the time for no good reason at all.
>>156432079If it makes euros seethe it's not only the correct choice, it's the moral one.
>>156432879Having a sin bin makes your sport based>hockey>rugby>roller derby
>>156441293>They negotiate the terms, not the actual sums that will be paid.No, they do negotiate sums. Or rather, the broadcasters mostly just bid for the rights with little to no contract negociations.
>>156441288woah, someone in europe with common sense
>>156441217>all the money already securedThis is simply not true
>>156441325Nonetheless, the decision isn't taken lightly. Broadcasters know things come up but it needs to be clear that FIFA isn't flippant about it
>>156441383Lol
>>156432079can somebody edit this so the trump card is black and says "BLACKED" on it?
>>156441390Same thing happened to Kane against Mexico. Went to kick the ball as another player is doing it, other player gets there first, Kane's leg hits the other player's leg, Kane gets a yellow card. For fucking what? Not being psychic? If Kane had got to the ball first would the beaner have been given the yellow? Was someone guaranteed to get a yellow in this situation? Should no one have gone for the ball? This "sport" is so fucking gay.
>>156441383Anon. There are multi national media conglomerates at work here. Even a negotiated sum as novels worth of contract language on how that sum is paid and contingencies for when that sum is paid. They aren’t signing a receipt. You are unbelievably dumb
Can Freese be deported?
>>156441402>Nonetheless, the decision isn't taken lightly.Well, let's just say that outside forces like weather conditions take highest priority, then player health, then both teams' and stadium officials' preferences, then Infantino's current mood, and then, after all of that, they might think about what's most convenient for broadcasters.
>>156441086I'm not equating or downplaying anything. Trump admitted calling Infantino to request a review and that his team pushed arguments. Starmer did the same on scheduling. Both are governments pressing FIFA for national advantage. That's not "devil's advocate" or an agenda, it's sticking to facts without exaggeration. If proven corruption emerges, I'll say so. Still FIFA made the decision.
>>156441502>THEY DON'T NEGOTIATE SUMS>Okay, they do negotiate sums, but there might be contigencies (that have nothing to do with scheduling) and maybe the money is only transferred after the event is over.Moving goalposts much? And you're still not even arguing the point.
>>156432079Players get tripped all the fucking time. For Belgium to act like a crime had been committed was dramatic bullshit. >>156432189Putin's not there. Just like with the Olympics, "bringing the world together" doesn't include the people labelled to be planet Earth's universal boogeyman.
>>156441274>We understand that refs make wrong callsThis is why I've liked the sport (except this year, boycotting this year, no views, no money).Been a fan since UEFA 2004 when Germany celebrated Greece victory over CZ only because CZ knocked out Germany. I was studying for a semester in DE and celebrated in the streets. The uni bar was packed!
>>156441598You are definitely ESL and do not belong on this board
>>156441553>Trump admitted calling Infantino to request a reviewTrump also claimed full responsibility for the outcome. You do keep downplaying the incident.>pressing FIFA for national advantage.Asking FIFA not to move a game to an earlier time than planned is hardly a "national advantage". If anything, it was an advantage for both teams.
>>156441598>not even arguing a point No shit. There isn’t an argument.Broadcasts are the primary source of revenue for these events. A fucking shit load of time and effort goes into these broadcasts. Moving the time IS a big deal. Just because you the consumer see it happen easily doesn’t mean the literal thousands of employees who work to make these broadcasts happen felt nothing. Again I will make a comparison to commercial flight. Of course they are able to make arrangements to keep the business going: it is their business. It is the industry itself.
>>156441677>You are definitely ESLAgain, moron, on a board with flags, that's not the ingenious deduction you think it is. Go back to >>>/pol/.
Pet nig commits obvious serious foul deserving of red cardFIFA adopts pet nig and rules he can play next game.Pet nig and rest of shitty team put on embarrassing shitshow and get stomped 1-4.They got what they deserved.
>>156432079This. Do NOT fuck with America
>>156441781No one claimed it’s an ingenious deduction. You are ESL.
>>156441751You keep arguing about how people working for the broadcasters feel. That's what I mean when I say that you're not arguing the point: FIFA do not care about how those people feel. FIFA do not need to care, because for them it's just business as usual.
>>156433535TRVKE. I bet half the burgers there didn't even realize they were eliminated and went home waiting for playoffs.
>>156441877This is a non point Fifa telling broadcasters to change the time requires far more effort than rescinding a decision of serving a red card suspension. That takes as little as one person
>>156441726Trump said he asked for a review and was glad with the outcome, he didn't dictate the result. FIFA's committee made the call under their rules. Starmer's intervention was about gaining a competitive edge (more acclimatization time for England vs. the host). That's exactly what "national advantage" means in this context. Both cases show governments pressing FIFA for their team's benefit. I'm not downplaying, just describing what’s confirmed: requests were made, FIFA acted, and no proven rule-breaking occurred. Let's not turn advocacy into "corruption" without evidence.
>>156441877Of course it’s business as usual. Broadcasts literally are the fucking business. They probably have individual teams dedicated to communicating with broadcasters on individual issues for individual networks. You keep repeating this fallacy. Because it has been done it is no big deal. It’s the entire deal. It’s how the organizations are structured. It’s the principle of infrastructure.
>>156433535This isn't just a mutt thing. The number of people from elsewhere who state alarmingly inaccurate things about things related to our country is also staggering. Just yesterday, the discussion about what happened with the ruling unearthed some bizarre inaccuracies, presented confidently as fact. I see the same any time the US Healthcare, education, or election systems are commented on.
>>156441856You have to be 18 to post here. Being native English isn't some sort of requirement for posting here, and its not insulting to people who aren't born here. Not sure why you keep repeating it but its weird.
>>156442589>Being native English isn't some sort of requirement for posting hereNo one said this, but I get it, you are confused because you are ESL
>>156442016>Fifa telling broadcasters to change the time requires far more effortIt does not. Not for FIFA at least.And, guess what: They were going to move the game start anyway, just in the other direction. In fact, Starmer asked them NOT to do that. In other words: FIFA were going to inconvenience your beloved broadcasters on their own, Starmer tried to keep things simple for them.
Why do you guys pretend like you care so much about muh fairness muh integrity then turn around and be like hand of god? Greatest WC goal of all time
>>156442720>beloved broadcasters Yeah you’re clearly struggling with this conversation, a result of being ESL and low IQ
>>156442208>(more acclimatization time for England vs. the host)Are you really this fucking retarded? The added time is the exact same for both.>no proven rule-breaking occurredYeah, you are fucking retarded.
>>156442802Out of arguments I see.
>>156442802>The added time is the exact same for both.So you’re just pretending to be retarded huh, now pretending there is no such thing as a home field advantage, that travel has zero effect on players, that elevation level doesn’t effect density of oxygen on the air
>>156442787>a result of being ESLYou've been bullshitting all over the thread picking arguments with everyone over literally anything. Your "muh ESL" gives you away.Are you willing to give me one single straightforward answer at least? Why are you doing this?
Red cards serve as an incentive to not be reckless. Balogun made a reckless tackle and was sent off. Thats the end of it
>>156442802Here is a question You are traveling to play a game of soccer.Would you rather >be on a flight for 6 hours then play the second you stepped off the planeOr>he in a flight for 6 hours then play 3 hours later Then answer me Does the difference in time effect the home team
>>156442930>there is no such thing as a home field advantage, that travel has zero effect on playersNope. Just that neither team had to gain anything from FIFA's plans to move the game to an earlier time in the day, like morons like yourself argue.
>>156443017If that's the big issue, you could reschedule the flight as well. Not worth talking about.Starmer's point was about the heat, and from what we know, the Mexican side also petitioned not to go forward with the plan to play in the afternoon.
>>156442963How else do you explain the phrasing of “beloved broadcasters” besides being ESL (and low IQ)?You ask me a question? You are extremely ignorant and arrogant. I will post a question for you in response:Why are you here? This is a predominately English speaking Tibetan glass blowing image board. You have a poor grasp of English. Why are you not conversing somewhere else in your native language? I will answer it for it because you ate too cowardly to admit the truth:No one who speaks your native language can stand you. You are an unlikeable and retarded incel.
>he's a /pol/tard>he's underage>he's a ginger ape>he has room temperature IQ>he's been seething an "no, you"-ing for 8h now because his nignogs got raped 1-4>he spaces like a plebbitorlol, lmao even, all my fucking keksSEMPER FI, 4MER1CA
No one:Seething third worlder:>>156443558
>>156443542>explain the phrasing of “beloved broadcasters”Only a moron like yourself would requite an explanation for that.
>>156443045>travel doesn’t effect players this is dying of heatstroke because we can’t use ac levels of retarded
>>156443662eat shit, gingerthis much English you understand, of that I am sure, Tyrone Daquaanyou're a nignog ameripoor, the fuck are you gonna do, ginger?yeah, just as I thought, nothing, you fucking faggot manletlol, stay mad, ginger
No one:Seething third worlder:>>156443896(Poem edition)
>>156443558>>156443896>this cuck is still awake and getting assraped by americaBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA he’s FUMING he lives in a shithole
stay mad, faggot, lmaoalso, worries to your cumdump motherlol, ameripoors thing they're tough online, kek
>>156444664>thing LOOOL this thirdie is crying himself into hysterics for 50 hours literally dying because of Americans are living rent free in his thirdie skull
>Tyrone's been seething for 8h straight ITTKWABOTY, lelz
also, rent free, nignog ameripoor ape, yuros are raping you every night
>>156444879>>156445008Thanks for obsessively bumping the thread, I see you ditched the germ*n vpn though, hella cringe
>everyone who is shitting on me because I am ameripoor must be on VPNlmao, /pol/ fried his brains kek
>>156435996LOL look at this OBSESSED Brain raped LITTLE FREAKThis third world monkey made this post >>156435996Where he claimed he was leaving but ameriCHADs lived so rent free in his head he’s still here>>156445229HOURS later He’s legit crying and can’t even sleep because he’s getting raped and humiliated so badly. Keep bumping this thread you braindead cuck
>plebbit spacingkekaroooooooo
>>156432079europoors wanna beat up a team not at full powerhow pathetic
>>156445229>>156445343BAHAHAHAHHAHA LOOK AT THE TIMESTAMP>>156435996This subhuman, American obsessed piece of shit said he was moving on to the next thread but bumped it for SEVERAL HOURS>the absolute state of this third world incel
>ameripoor nignog thinks he has an opinionhahahahahaha
>>156445229>>156445343Thanks for staying up all night to bump a thread for 8 hours obsessed thirdie cuck. Stay mad. Stay conquered. But most importantly stay awake little thirdie cuck. If you just vaguepost harder mean ole america will go away
go back sucking your moms cock, nignog, I am done with you, faggot>amerilat>ameripoor>nignoogoooof zoomie, ngmi desu
>>156445518Take a look at the TIME BAHAHAHAHAHA>>156435996Look at this shit IMAGINE BEING THIS THIRD WORLD INCELYou know he’s waiting for his whore mother to die before he kills himself, sheesh was a retarded loser. Stayed up all night to get BTFO by ameriCHADs
>>156445675Timestamp status? OH NO NO NO>>156435996Keep bumping the thread obsessed thirdie
Yeah yeah, anyways.
>>156445903Imagine being this clown who was hoping for 7-1 or even higher and had to cope with 4-1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpuDsFSd8YA
>>156432687>>156433275Because 99% of the time someone gets a red card they deserved it. (And the USA deserved that red card he practically snapped his ankle). Especially in the World Cup where you'll play against 3rd world violent subhumans.
>>156439563Mutts got destroyed kek, cope
>>156447490Clearly a victim of heatstroke and sleep deprivation
>>156436198You will run our event the way we want it, slave.
>>156432079I don't really care about the red card situation, but i think it's funny that this entire thing is probably going to be remembered in the same scale as Korea 2002.
>>156436124You are brown, paco.
>>156435811This is why the world will laugh at the coming Israeli falseflag. Enjoy the pain.
>>156448252>>156448447Holy seethe
>>156437853Why, they'll try and save the world again?
>>156447490>>156448252>>156448447Imagine being this britjeet opening this old ass thread to think eheheh m8 it’s a proper laugh at the 4-1 mericans but now he’s locked into seething non stop as he realizes it’s an entire thread of eurotrash getting smoked
>>156438208Gem
>>156433555Somehow Putin had more integrity for the competition than Trump doeever
>>156442648You said >>156441677Retard
>>156433555USA got its bid because Infantino is in the Epstein files.
