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Did it change the trajectory or not?
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Who cares about the cable, they literally annulled a goal because Haaland who wasn't even playing gave a little shove to guy weighing 30 kg on the other side of the field
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WATCH IT. WATCH THE FOOTBALL. WATCH IT. IT’S GONNA MOVE.
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The trajectory literally doesn't change. Redditors have given themselves collective psychosis because the rowboat team got sent home.
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>>156682875
we all know some intern made that graph and that it has nothing to do with the actual ball
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The trajectory literally doesn't change
you retards need to get off your meds
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>>156682875
I mean it certainly looks like it shifts a bit to the right
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keepers fault anyway
shit happens
fuck him
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>>156682875
even if you don't see the trajectory change, the english player eho got the ball certainly did. look at how he changes directions.
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>>156682875
>FIFA says they are right and everyone else isn't
Wow, truly a trustworthy source after everything that has happened in this shitshow of a tournament
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>>156682875
https://youtu.be/7otAJa3jui8?si=Hn7f6bbqtHlKtTU1&t=17
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>>156683039
That doesn't mean anything
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>>156682875
Who cares? Norwegians should be fuming more at that retard Sorloth
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>>156683039
looks like it would've been a dogshit kick anyway
would've gone to a man isolated between potentially three Englishmen
this is not the reason Norway lost the match
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The wire of god
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>>156683169
12 year olds can tell where the ball will land and the english player was initially moving to where the ball was going to land.
such a sudden change in direction would only happen if he misjudged where the ball will fall to and that doesn't happen for professionals.
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>>156683117
German posters have been some of the sorest losers this world cup. You guys are bitching and moaning about something in every thread since you got knocked out.
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>>156682875
huh... mustve been the wind
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>>156682875
No. It was just a shit goal kick and the GK was looking for excuses
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>>156683250
Yeah fair enough. Maybe the ball did hit the wire. But here's my counterpoint: it doesn't matter if it did
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>>156682875
these fucking charts are knocked up by AI
>add a wavy line this time make it look more convincing
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It's just Norwegian cope. Very sore losers because they couldn't play their cringeworthy little drum.
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>>156683231
Clearly MI6 interference
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>>156682875
now give us the full clip of the croatia 'header'
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>>156683318
Yeah I enjoyed the little fluctuations from baseline. Very Sciencey!
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>>156683208
They use the cable to externalize the blame to keep the team spirit up
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>>156683229
>>156683314
yes, it is a shit kick. maybe the norwegian would have lost the incoming header or it would have just gone to the sidelines.
but the deeper issue is fifa trying to gaslight the viewers with the stupid graph and trying to make people forget that apparently the very same sensor could detect a touch of hair.
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new rule: opposition goal kicks being poorly taken means you rule the goal out!
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Are most people here just world cup tourists? Anyone who has watched enough football would know that when the keeper does a kick like that there is no way the ball lands only at the halfway line.
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>>156683314
This 100%. The ball hitting the wire or not is irrelevant because they still had to score the fucking goal. It hitting the wire didn't make it drop into the back of the net or something, the Poms caught the Vikings napping and they paid the price for it.
Simple as.
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>>156683250
I think he's just running back and then turning as he sees the opportunity to win the ball and attack.
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>>156683394
>Anyone who has watched enough football would know that when the keeper does a kick like that there is no way the ball lands only at the halfway line.

Well then who the fuck was he aiming for because there arent any red shirts beyond the guy the ball falls in front of
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>>156682912
Me when I lie
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>>156683208
yeah that was brutal
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>>156683394
Nah bro, you're the only one that knows this, we're all dumb.
Check where he's intending to kick the ball and extrapolate what might've logically happened if it didn't hit the wire.
This is not why Norway lost.
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>>156683528
yeah, they lost because one of their goals was revoked after an obvious dive
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>>156682875
But who trusts that fifofafo?
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>>156683478
The one who had to run all the way back to the halfway line, that guy.
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>>156683558
So you agree this entire fiasco was meaningless to the outcome then?
They lost because they couldn't convert a simple opportunity and an obvious defensive lapse. Cope.
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>>156683513
That shit is hard to watch, it's like they did everything to nullify the best advantage they had as a team.
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>>156683593
norway should have won 2-0 if it wasn't for rigging
one goal revoked by english diving
english goal created by a situation that should result in dropped ball (I know you tourist never heard of dropped ball before)
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>>156682912
Fpbp
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>>156682912
>Haaland who wasn't even playing
Yeah I had to keep reminding myself he was on the pitch even, he bottled it yet again.
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guys is there not also the possibility that the wind and atmospheric pressure changed the trajectory of the ball? does that count as interference and if not why not
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>>156683513

Its such a weird play. He pusses out on taking a shot himself and slams on the brakes; but then when he has a chance to pass to Haaland he pusses out on that too and ends up donking it right into a defender.

I think it might even be worse than our retarded goalie handing the ball over to the Belgians......maybe not.
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>>156683558
>push someone over
>wtf he's diving
Lmao you retarded kraut faggot
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it doesnt matter
if you arent prepared for this against englel or vargentina you are delusional
could have ended them earlier but we didnt
hit the bar
missed other chances

we made it to final 8 regardless, best result for us in history
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>>156682875
They’re such dishonest arseholes. The rule is if it hits anything not if it doesn’t alter trajectory
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>>156683694
they both pushed each other, a normal occurence in corners, and your player just flopped when haaland pushed back
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>>156683558

I still don't get why they stopped play when the English defender took out his own keeper. The announcers were talking some bullshit about the spirit of the game. Like what the fuck is that? England fucked up and the refs stop the game to save their ass?
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>>156683723
>push someone over
>cry because you pushed someone over
Kek, you're retarded
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Unless that shit was going live, whatever they put does not fucking matter. That off side goal from a few games ago the ball barely nicked some dude's hair and "line go up" to justify the decision,
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apparently the sensors don't track the ball that high
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>>156683700
I wonder if we will have a fair match if both riggers play against each other or if fifa favours one of them. the latter would be funnier if one of them gets a taste of their own medicine.
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>>156683662
>english goal created by a situation that should result in dropped ball (I know you tourist never heard of dropped ball befor
Whether it should've been a dropped ball or not is irrelevant you obtuse kraut. They created the opportunity from what was effectively a shitty goal kick. It's not England's fault (or the ref's for that matter) if Norway had a defensive lapse that allows the opposition to score in a a fucking quarter final.
Stay alert. Defend. Play the whistle . These are fundamentals ffs.
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>>156683723
football is a non-contact sport and turdies needs to be reminded of that constantly
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>>156683731
>>156683761
>>156683763
tourists
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>>156683776
No argument. Seething.
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>>156682875
Tbf, if Nyland didn't do a Lammens impression, nobody would talk about this
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>>156683690
>guys is there not also the possibility that the wind and atmospheric pressure changed the trajectory of the ball?
No
Also it's impossible that Norwegian players could have seen this happening and reacted accordingly. Only England players could see it
Wake up sheeple
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>>156683776
>push someone to the floor
>wtf why am I being penalised?!?!?!?!??!
Kek, cope and seethe
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>>156683817
This is precisely what I'm trying to get through to this thick cunt>>156683776
If the English could see all this unfolding and react, why couldn't the Norwegians?
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>sensor sensitive enough to detect contact with hair that doesn't alter ball trajectory gives a similar reading between Nyland belting it and Anderson cushioning it down
Did our unscrupulous cheques finally start getting through to Zurich? Is it finally coming home?
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>>156683763
>football is a non-contact sport

Bah, the game is better with contact. Now with video review penalties the rewards for acting like a flopping pussy have never been higher.
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>>156683692
The shot was him pussying out, had no chance but he took it anyway because it's easier than trying to beat a player or hold it to open a new passing angle
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>>156683274
>be host
>no no corruption isn't always bad who cares they lost anyway no please tell us we had a good tourney
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>>156682976
Footballers famously cant spin the ball
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One of the least contentious matches of the entire tournament but men, who should know better, appear to crave drama at all times like a bunch of women
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>>156682875
Our commentators said that the hit caused a blackout from one of the cameras for someone.
There was a hit.
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>>156683843
>?!?!?!?!??!
you seem mad

>>156683799
>>156683855
malding because deep down you know the win was via rigging
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>>156683866
this is only because diving faggotry is not severely punished but it's been allowed to carry on for so long that it's part of the meta
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>>156683960
>I can respond to reason and logic.
You're acting like a pissy woman now. Sort yourself out, you're not thinking clearly. Embarrassing.
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>>156683694
>push someone over
That kind of action is done at every corner, much harder than what haaland did. Ref wanted England to win.
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>>156683968
except against argentina, that's a card
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>>156683250
He was moving into space the kick was meant for the Norwegian player who missed the chance to get there first. Its not a direct pass the Norwegian is supposed to move into space and recieve it. Do you think Sevillas back up goalkeeper can make pinpoint passes?
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>>156683881

It was the worst thing he could have possibly done. He could have stayed on the gas, outrun the defender and taken an open shot himself, he could have passed to Haaland when he was open twice, or he could have passed it back to one of the other players who didn't have three defenders on them. It took effort to fuck that play up that hard.
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>>156683763
Soccer is a contact sport, actually. There are many scenarios where contact is allowed and it’s play on
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>>156682912
webm?
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>>156684000
I think you meant "can't" but in your rage you mistyped
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>>156684081
>t. retard without an argument
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>>156683960
>malding because deep down you know the win was via rigging
Uh oh, kraut nigger melty

>>156684003
>push someone over
>get penalised
Rigged!
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>>156682875
you can still see it hit something
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>>156684128
>>156684140
>I'm not mad I'm just blindly throwing around with insults
lel. vargentina will outrig you.
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>>156684149
It doesn't but say it did, it doesn't give any advantage
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>>156684197
No no, the 3cm it moved were vital to the English performance, it would've gone straight past Pickford without it
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>>156684185
Your meltdown across half the board is absolutely palpable, what a deranged butthurt faggot you are kek
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>>156684070
They wont show it. Very strange
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>>156683949
>Poles lying and seething about the English
expected
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Keeper was leaning back and sliced it with backspin. It wasn't a good kick, and so when it lost it's velocity the backspin made it hang in the air.
Elementary physics.
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>>156683513
this would have got overturned by VAR because Halland had smashed his marker into the ground to get open.
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>>156683756
i think there wont be interference, none them can beat france or spain without help, so no point pushing it
it will be a smooth sail 1 goal match
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>>156684197
>>156684297
again
norway are rather crybabies cause it was only in the first half and they had a whole half to prove they were a better team
but
this sensor thing is bullshit. in some clips you can see it move. bbc had this also.
TSN FOXsport a ton of people saw that. it was a cable thing, not a major change in trajectory like norway is crying about

but it does prove that sensor stuff is bullshit, especially from croatia-portugal match.
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>>156682919
Jej, solid reference
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>>156684424
Its still an arc it doesnt drop like a stone. Anyone can see its trajectory everyone has a chance of getting it
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>URRR WE'RE SCARY VIKINGS ROOOOOOOOOOOOO
>B-B-BUT IT HIT THE CABLE AND IT MOVED 2CM TO THE RIGHT IT WAS UNSTOPABLE HELP US PWEASE

Fucking embarrassing cope.
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so what is the accusation here- that somehow our goalkeeper is so good that he can calculate the adjusted trajectory of the ball after hitting the cable?
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>>156683026
This.

>Nyland kicks ball at spider cam
>Somehow England's fault

>>156684574
It wasn't Pickford.
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>>156684574
Thats not our goalkeeper. Get a clue
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I haven't seen any convincing footage that the ball's trajectory was altered.
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>>156684618
Neither. But that doesn't stop the seething and gaslighting on here.
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>>156684339
At least this one admits it's a shove. Until now they've been claiming he gave Anderson a dirty look.
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>>156684618
because if you post the footage you can see there's nothing happening
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>>156684618
>>156684652
Theres a wobble here. But i dont see how it effects the game. All the players see where the ball is going it doesnt sink like a stone. Theres a norweigan player right behind Anderson whos going for the ball too hes just slower
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>>156684574
No, it's that Anderson is so good that he can tell by the opposing keeper's run up that he's going to kick it into the cable, and calculate the precise trajectory to have it land right at his feet as he runs up the field, and therefore the goal scored by his teammate afterwards shouldn't count
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FIFA gave norway a drug that stopped their players reacting to the change in trajectory
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>NFL stadium has astroturf because [[team owners]] don't want to pay for grass
>World Cup comes to town
>they install nice grass
>World Cup leaves
>[[team owners]] tear out all the grass and put back in the turf
>NFL players keep tearing ACLs like there's no tomorrow
How do we stop them from doing this??
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/sp/ is upset because they wanted to see the little drum show
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>>156684926
/sp/eddit BTFO by the might Anglo-Saxon Fyrd!
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>>156684070
Seconding
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>>156682912
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>>156683513
HAALAND IS RIGHT THERE JUST PASS THE BALL TO HIS FEET AND HE WILL PUT IT IN THE NET PASS IT PASS IT!!!!
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>>156684811
The BBC's 3D simulation is extremely janky; at one point during the Argentina match, the ball literally disappears and falls directly downward after a goal kick.
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>>156684706
? It doesn't hit anything. I'd like someone to sit down and point out where in this video the ball hits a wire.
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>>156684867
grass needs more maintenance which means higher recurring costs
ain't nobody got money fo dat
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>>156684867
Wtf, are they really doing that? Why? Surely it can't be that expensive give how much you charge everyone
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>>156685128
Yes. They also charge $50 to park your car and $15 for a damn hot dog.
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>>156684706
>>156685102
i literally cannot see it either

so many are convinced i feel i'm missing it, but i can't see it no matter how hard i try
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>>156684811
>But i dont see how it effects the game
If it hits a wire the goal would not count according to the rules of FIFA. That's what I heard from SVT.
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>>156685063
Rigged bros wont like that
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>>156684811
What even is this though? Are we supposed to trust this generated imaging over the real time footage?
I just don't see it.
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>>156683513
This unironically looks like a throw
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>>156685253
Some janky BBC 3D match thing.
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>>156684706
The trajectory seems unusual though, gust of wind maybe?
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>>156685321
Its just a guy who wants the glory. Assume he thought there would be many other chances
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>>156682875
Didn't see the game
What am I looking at?
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after review the ball touched the cable
final decision:PENALTY FOR ENGLAND
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How this the controversy when a goal was disallowed over a slight push
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Okay be honest- if Ronaldo plays next time AND his brand value is still worth billions, how much of an advantage would FIFA give to Portugal? Will Morocco suddenly become FIFA'S favoured underdog?
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>>156682875
Makes you think about the Croatia goal
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>>156685459
Barely touched him x
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>>156682875
The thing about all this that gets me is, the entire fucking Norway team and bench staring at the ball but not one of them called out that it hit some magical cable. The entire team would have irrupted and stopped play if that had happen especially after getting a goal off it.
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why dont they share footage from the camera surerly if it was hit youd see shaking
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>>156685655
Actually good question
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>>156685655
>>156685874

anon the full OP video is the spidercam, its behind the keeper when he kicks it, but flys over the pitch and tracks the goal from behind too in the full footage

that is the spidercam shot
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>>156685893
oh so no shaking kek
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>>156684070
Clearly he just tapped him
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>>156686368
clear push, happens all the time, maybe the bong chose to dive or just fell, could have swung both ways so a dive would have been risky (ie against the likes of Paragay)
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>>156684811
Post real footage not simulated garbage.
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>>156686368
You can see the point where he goes from being pushed to diving, when he lifts his knees like an NPC ragdolling in a video game
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>>156682875
It touched nothing. Why are "vikings" such crybabies
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>>156686368
I hate how every corner has become baiting for this shit because they know some refs would rather take any excuse to cancel the corner kick than to concede a 'controversional' goal.
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>>156682919
LMAO
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>>156682875
I'm so tired of this techy bullshit ruining games
This goal, Croatia's and Egypt's should've all been allowed, anything else is anti-game garbage
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>>156689540
member that ParaguayANO who flopped like a bitch in front of Maignan right after Olise's booking?
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what matters in the end is that Halland CHOKED hard
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>>156683686
>bottled
stop with this forced ass meme
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>>156683513
post the one where some non-Haaland Norwegian player kicks the ball a solid 30cm above the crossbar
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>>156683692
Agreed. Either you take matters into your own hands and fucking shoot it immediately, or you pass it.

He did the absolute worst thing he could have done: which is wait, and then take a half-assed kick
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>>156683722
>The rule is if it hits anything not if it doesn’t alter trajectory
right. it doesn't even make sense after their portugal decision.
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>>156689540
paraguays gk grabbed the balls of our player before diving lol
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>>156682912
FIFA is pushing England to the WC, if you don't want to support corruption you should support us
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>>156683912
Accusing fucking CANADA of being involved in football corruption is crazy bro. They didn't even know they were hosts
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>>156689540
Maybe just dont two hand shove players like a fucking retard. I think thats an easier solution
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>>156682875
FIFA published some grapic.
Most likely it's some unrelated thing they had stored to rig the match
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>>156690878
>it's okay to flop if he uses two hands
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>>156691076
>My hecking wholesome 6'5 nordic ogre Halaand is so strong but he would NEVER shove a player over
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>>156691144
He could have, but he didn't. Your guy dropped to the ground while waving at the referee >>156686368
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How many times should we let players retake their kick if they mess up?

Like everyone gets a least 2 ?
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>>156682875
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>>156682875
Why is the line all bumpy like that when the GK kicks it?
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>>156682875
In all these videos, I only see the ball's accelaration decreasing and its spinning remaining unchanged. If the ball had hit a wire/camera, it'd have affected its spinning. The parabola being asymmetrical makes sense because of air resistance and the magnus effect from the spinning.
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>>156682875
they cut the segment in the data and replaced it with unsuspicious baseline data. since there is no control organ that audits FIFA's methods they can do whatever they want
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>>156682875
fifa is a disaster. It's a nothing burger, but they are lying about it, so now it's a growing big polémique.
what a bunch of fucking amateurs.
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>>156692260
makes sense from the side view, but I think you can see a trajectory change though from the keeper's pov
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>>156684533
Kek yes!



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