Did it change the trajectory or not?
Who cares about the cable, they literally annulled a goal because Haaland who wasn't even playing gave a little shove to guy weighing 30 kg on the other side of the field
WATCH IT. WATCH THE FOOTBALL. WATCH IT. IT’S GONNA MOVE.
The trajectory literally doesn't change. Redditors have given themselves collective psychosis because the rowboat team got sent home.
>>156682875we all know some intern made that graph and that it has nothing to do with the actual ball
The trajectory literally doesn't changeyou retards need to get off your meds
>>156682875I mean it certainly looks like it shifts a bit to the right
keepers fault anywayshit happensfuck him
>>156682875even if you don't see the trajectory change, the english player eho got the ball certainly did. look at how he changes directions.
>>156682875>FIFA says they are right and everyone else isn'tWow, truly a trustworthy source after everything that has happened in this shitshow of a tournament
>>156682875https://youtu.be/7otAJa3jui8?si=Hn7f6bbqtHlKtTU1&t=17
>>156683039That doesn't mean anything
>>156682875Who cares? Norwegians should be fuming more at that retard Sorloth
>>156683039looks like it would've been a dogshit kick anywaywould've gone to a man isolated between potentially three Englishmen this is not the reason Norway lost the match
The wire of god
>>15668316912 year olds can tell where the ball will land and the english player was initially moving to where the ball was going to land.such a sudden change in direction would only happen if he misjudged where the ball will fall to and that doesn't happen for professionals.
>>156683117German posters have been some of the sorest losers this world cup. You guys are bitching and moaning about something in every thread since you got knocked out.
>>156682875huh... mustve been the wind
>>156682875No. It was just a shit goal kick and the GK was looking for excuses
>>156683250Yeah fair enough. Maybe the ball did hit the wire. But here's my counterpoint: it doesn't matter if it did
>>156682875these fucking charts are knocked up by AI>add a wavy line this time make it look more convincing
It's just Norwegian cope. Very sore losers because they couldn't play their cringeworthy little drum.
>>156683231Clearly MI6 interference
>>156682875now give us the full clip of the croatia 'header'
>>156683318Yeah I enjoyed the little fluctuations from baseline. Very Sciencey!
>>156683208They use the cable to externalize the blame to keep the team spirit up
>>156683229>>156683314yes, it is a shit kick. maybe the norwegian would have lost the incoming header or it would have just gone to the sidelines.but the deeper issue is fifa trying to gaslight the viewers with the stupid graph and trying to make people forget that apparently the very same sensor could detect a touch of hair.
new rule: opposition goal kicks being poorly taken means you rule the goal out!
Are most people here just world cup tourists? Anyone who has watched enough football would know that when the keeper does a kick like that there is no way the ball lands only at the halfway line.
>>156683314This 100%. The ball hitting the wire or not is irrelevant because they still had to score the fucking goal. It hitting the wire didn't make it drop into the back of the net or something, the Poms caught the Vikings napping and they paid the price for it.Simple as.
>>156683250I think he's just running back and then turning as he sees the opportunity to win the ball and attack.
>>156683394>Anyone who has watched enough football would know that when the keeper does a kick like that there is no way the ball lands only at the halfway line.Well then who the fuck was he aiming for because there arent any red shirts beyond the guy the ball falls in front of
>>156682912Me when I lie
>>156683208yeah that was brutal
>>156683394Nah bro, you're the only one that knows this, we're all dumb.Check where he's intending to kick the ball and extrapolate what might've logically happened if it didn't hit the wire.This is not why Norway lost.
>>156683528yeah, they lost because one of their goals was revoked after an obvious dive
>>156682875But who trusts that fifofafo?
>>156683478The one who had to run all the way back to the halfway line, that guy.
>>156683558So you agree this entire fiasco was meaningless to the outcome then?They lost because they couldn't convert a simple opportunity and an obvious defensive lapse. Cope.
>>156683513That shit is hard to watch, it's like they did everything to nullify the best advantage they had as a team.
>>156683593norway should have won 2-0 if it wasn't for riggingone goal revoked by english divingenglish goal created by a situation that should result in dropped ball (I know you tourist never heard of dropped ball before)
>>156682912Fpbp
>>156682912>Haaland who wasn't even playingYeah I had to keep reminding myself he was on the pitch even, he bottled it yet again.
guys is there not also the possibility that the wind and atmospheric pressure changed the trajectory of the ball? does that count as interference and if not why not
>>156683513Its such a weird play. He pusses out on taking a shot himself and slams on the brakes; but then when he has a chance to pass to Haaland he pusses out on that too and ends up donking it right into a defender.I think it might even be worse than our retarded goalie handing the ball over to the Belgians......maybe not.
>>156683558>push someone over>wtf he's divingLmao you retarded kraut faggot
it doesnt matterif you arent prepared for this against englel or vargentina you are delusionalcould have ended them earlier but we didnthit the barmissed other chanceswe made it to final 8 regardless, best result for us in history
>>156682875They’re such dishonest arseholes. The rule is if it hits anything not if it doesn’t alter trajectory
>>156683694they both pushed each other, a normal occurence in corners, and your player just flopped when haaland pushed back
>>156683558I still don't get why they stopped play when the English defender took out his own keeper. The announcers were talking some bullshit about the spirit of the game. Like what the fuck is that? England fucked up and the refs stop the game to save their ass?
>>156683723>push someone over>cry because you pushed someone overKek, you're retarded
Unless that shit was going live, whatever they put does not fucking matter. That off side goal from a few games ago the ball barely nicked some dude's hair and "line go up" to justify the decision,
apparently the sensors don't track the ball that high
>>156683700I wonder if we will have a fair match if both riggers play against each other or if fifa favours one of them. the latter would be funnier if one of them gets a taste of their own medicine.
>>156683662>english goal created by a situation that should result in dropped ball (I know you tourist never heard of dropped ball beforWhether it should've been a dropped ball or not is irrelevant you obtuse kraut. They created the opportunity from what was effectively a shitty goal kick. It's not England's fault (or the ref's for that matter) if Norway had a defensive lapse that allows the opposition to score in a a fucking quarter final.Stay alert. Defend. Play the whistle . These are fundamentals ffs.
>>156683723football is a non-contact sport and turdies needs to be reminded of that constantly
>>156683731>>156683761>>156683763tourists
>>156683776No argument. Seething.
>>156682875Tbf, if Nyland didn't do a Lammens impression, nobody would talk about this
>>156683690>guys is there not also the possibility that the wind and atmospheric pressure changed the trajectory of the ball?NoAlso it's impossible that Norwegian players could have seen this happening and reacted accordingly. Only England players could see it Wake up sheeple
>>156683776>push someone to the floor>wtf why am I being penalised?!?!?!?!??!Kek, cope and seethe
>>156683817This is precisely what I'm trying to get through to this thick cunt>>156683776If the English could see all this unfolding and react, why couldn't the Norwegians?
>sensor sensitive enough to detect contact with hair that doesn't alter ball trajectory gives a similar reading between Nyland belting it and Anderson cushioning it downDid our unscrupulous cheques finally start getting through to Zurich? Is it finally coming home?
>>156683763>football is a non-contact sportBah, the game is better with contact. Now with video review penalties the rewards for acting like a flopping pussy have never been higher.
>>156683692The shot was him pussying out, had no chance but he took it anyway because it's easier than trying to beat a player or hold it to open a new passing angle
>>156683274>be host>no no corruption isn't always bad who cares they lost anyway no please tell us we had a good tourney
>>156682976Footballers famously cant spin the ball
One of the least contentious matches of the entire tournament but men, who should know better, appear to crave drama at all times like a bunch of women
>>156682875Our commentators said that the hit caused a blackout from one of the cameras for someone. There was a hit.
>>156683843>?!?!?!?!??!you seem mad>>156683799>>156683855malding because deep down you know the win was via rigging
>>156683866this is only because diving faggotry is not severely punished but it's been allowed to carry on for so long that it's part of the meta
>>156683960>I can respond to reason and logic.You're acting like a pissy woman now. Sort yourself out, you're not thinking clearly. Embarrassing.
>>156683694>push someone overThat kind of action is done at every corner, much harder than what haaland did. Ref wanted England to win.
>>156683968except against argentina, that's a card
>>156683250He was moving into space the kick was meant for the Norwegian player who missed the chance to get there first. Its not a direct pass the Norwegian is supposed to move into space and recieve it. Do you think Sevillas back up goalkeeper can make pinpoint passes?
>>156683881It was the worst thing he could have possibly done. He could have stayed on the gas, outrun the defender and taken an open shot himself, he could have passed to Haaland when he was open twice, or he could have passed it back to one of the other players who didn't have three defenders on them. It took effort to fuck that play up that hard.
>>156683763Soccer is a contact sport, actually. There are many scenarios where contact is allowed and it’s play on
>>156682912webm?
>>156684000I think you meant "can't" but in your rage you mistyped
>>156684081>t. retard without an argument
>>156683960>malding because deep down you know the win was via riggingUh oh, kraut nigger melty>>156684003>push someone over>get penalisedRigged!
>>156682875you can still see it hit something
>>156684128>>156684140>I'm not mad I'm just blindly throwing around with insultslel. vargentina will outrig you.
>>156684149It doesn't but say it did, it doesn't give any advantage
>>156684197No no, the 3cm it moved were vital to the English performance, it would've gone straight past Pickford without it
>>156684185Your meltdown across half the board is absolutely palpable, what a deranged butthurt faggot you are kek
>>156684070They wont show it. Very strange
>>156683949>Poles lying and seething about the Englishexpected
Keeper was leaning back and sliced it with backspin. It wasn't a good kick, and so when it lost it's velocity the backspin made it hang in the air.Elementary physics.
>>156683513this would have got overturned by VAR because Halland had smashed his marker into the ground to get open.
>>156683756i think there wont be interference, none them can beat france or spain without help, so no point pushing itit will be a smooth sail 1 goal match
>>156684197>>156684297againnorway are rather crybabies cause it was only in the first half and they had a whole half to prove they were a better teambutthis sensor thing is bullshit. in some clips you can see it move. bbc had this also. TSN FOXsport a ton of people saw that. it was a cable thing, not a major change in trajectory like norway is crying aboutbut it does prove that sensor stuff is bullshit, especially from croatia-portugal match.
>>156682919Jej, solid reference
>>156684411
>>156684424Its still an arc it doesnt drop like a stone. Anyone can see its trajectory everyone has a chance of getting it
>URRR WE'RE SCARY VIKINGS ROOOOOOOOOOOOO>B-B-BUT IT HIT THE CABLE AND IT MOVED 2CM TO THE RIGHT IT WAS UNSTOPABLE HELP US PWEASE Fucking embarrassing cope.
so what is the accusation here- that somehow our goalkeeper is so good that he can calculate the adjusted trajectory of the ball after hitting the cable?
>>156683026This.>Nyland kicks ball at spider cam>Somehow England's fault>>156684574It wasn't Pickford.
>>156684574Thats not our goalkeeper. Get a clue
I haven't seen any convincing footage that the ball's trajectory was altered.
>>156684618Neither. But that doesn't stop the seething and gaslighting on here.
>>156684339At least this one admits it's a shove. Until now they've been claiming he gave Anderson a dirty look.
>>156684618because if you post the footage you can see there's nothing happening
>>156684618>>156684652Theres a wobble here. But i dont see how it effects the game. All the players see where the ball is going it doesnt sink like a stone. Theres a norweigan player right behind Anderson whos going for the ball too hes just slower
>>156684574No, it's that Anderson is so good that he can tell by the opposing keeper's run up that he's going to kick it into the cable, and calculate the precise trajectory to have it land right at his feet as he runs up the field, and therefore the goal scored by his teammate afterwards shouldn't count
FIFA gave norway a drug that stopped their players reacting to the change in trajectory
>NFL stadium has astroturf because [[team owners]] don't want to pay for grass>World Cup comes to town>they install nice grass>World Cup leaves >[[team owners]] tear out all the grass and put back in the turf>NFL players keep tearing ACLs like there's no tomorrowHow do we stop them from doing this??
/sp/ is upset because they wanted to see the little drum show
>>156684926/sp/eddit BTFO by the might Anglo-Saxon Fyrd!
>>156684070Seconding
>>156682912
>>156683513HAALAND IS RIGHT THERE JUST PASS THE BALL TO HIS FEET AND HE WILL PUT IT IN THE NET PASS IT PASS IT!!!!
>>156684811The BBC's 3D simulation is extremely janky; at one point during the Argentina match, the ball literally disappears and falls directly downward after a goal kick.
>>156684706? It doesn't hit anything. I'd like someone to sit down and point out where in this video the ball hits a wire.
>>156684867grass needs more maintenance which means higher recurring costsain't nobody got money fo dat
>>156684867Wtf, are they really doing that? Why? Surely it can't be that expensive give how much you charge everyone
>>156685128Yes. They also charge $50 to park your car and $15 for a damn hot dog.
>>156684706>>156685102i literally cannot see it eitherso many are convinced i feel i'm missing it, but i can't see it no matter how hard i try
>>156684811>But i dont see how it effects the gameIf it hits a wire the goal would not count according to the rules of FIFA. That's what I heard from SVT.
>>156685063Rigged bros wont like that
>>156684811What even is this though? Are we supposed to trust this generated imaging over the real time footage?I just don't see it.
>>156683513This unironically looks like a throw
>>156685253Some janky BBC 3D match thing.
>>156684706The trajectory seems unusual though, gust of wind maybe?
>>156685321Its just a guy who wants the glory. Assume he thought there would be many other chances
>>156682875Didn't see the gameWhat am I looking at?
after review the ball touched the cablefinal decision:PENALTY FOR ENGLAND
How this the controversy when a goal was disallowed over a slight push
Okay be honest- if Ronaldo plays next time AND his brand value is still worth billions, how much of an advantage would FIFA give to Portugal? Will Morocco suddenly become FIFA'S favoured underdog?
>>156682875Makes you think about the Croatia goal
>>156685459Barely touched him x
>>156682875The thing about all this that gets me is, the entire fucking Norway team and bench staring at the ball but not one of them called out that it hit some magical cable. The entire team would have irrupted and stopped play if that had happen especially after getting a goal off it.
why dont they share footage from the camera surerly if it was hit youd see shaking
>>156685655Actually good question
>>156685655>>156685874anon the full OP video is the spidercam, its behind the keeper when he kicks it, but flys over the pitch and tracks the goal from behind too in the full footagethat is the spidercam shot
>>156685893oh so no shaking kek
>>156684070Clearly he just tapped him
>>156686368clear push, happens all the time, maybe the bong chose to dive or just fell, could have swung both ways so a dive would have been risky (ie against the likes of Paragay)
>>156684811Post real footage not simulated garbage.
>>156686368You can see the point where he goes from being pushed to diving, when he lifts his knees like an NPC ragdolling in a video game
>>156682875It touched nothing. Why are "vikings" such crybabies
>>156686368I hate how every corner has become baiting for this shit because they know some refs would rather take any excuse to cancel the corner kick than to concede a 'controversional' goal.
>>156682919LMAO
>>156682875I'm so tired of this techy bullshit ruining games This goal, Croatia's and Egypt's should've all been allowed, anything else is anti-game garbage
>>156689540member that ParaguayANO who flopped like a bitch in front of Maignan right after Olise's booking?
what matters in the end is that Halland CHOKED hard
>>156683686>bottledstop with this forced ass meme
>>156683513post the one where some non-Haaland Norwegian player kicks the ball a solid 30cm above the crossbar
>>156683692Agreed. Either you take matters into your own hands and fucking shoot it immediately, or you pass it.He did the absolute worst thing he could have done: which is wait, and then take a half-assed kick
>>156683722>The rule is if it hits anything not if it doesn’t alter trajectoryright. it doesn't even make sense after their portugal decision.
>>156689540paraguays gk grabbed the balls of our player before diving lol
>>156682912FIFA is pushing England to the WC, if you don't want to support corruption you should support us
>>156683912Accusing fucking CANADA of being involved in football corruption is crazy bro. They didn't even know they were hosts
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>>156689540Maybe just dont two hand shove players like a fucking retard. I think thats an easier solution
>>156682875FIFA published some grapic. Most likely it's some unrelated thing they had stored to rig the match
>>156690878>it's okay to flop if he uses two hands
>>156691076>My hecking wholesome 6'5 nordic ogre Halaand is so strong but he would NEVER shove a player over
>>156691144He could have, but he didn't. Your guy dropped to the ground while waving at the referee >>156686368
How many times should we let players retake their kick if they mess up?Like everyone gets a least 2 ?
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>>156682875Why is the line all bumpy like that when the GK kicks it?
>>156682875In all these videos, I only see the ball's accelaration decreasing and its spinning remaining unchanged. If the ball had hit a wire/camera, it'd have affected its spinning. The parabola being asymmetrical makes sense because of air resistance and the magnus effect from the spinning.
>>156682875they cut the segment in the data and replaced it with unsuspicious baseline data. since there is no control organ that audits FIFA's methods they can do whatever they want
>>156682875fifa is a disaster. It's a nothing burger, but they are lying about it, so now it's a growing big polémique. what a bunch of fucking amateurs.
>>156692260makes sense from the side view, but I think you can see a trajectory change though from the keeper's pov
>>156684533Kek yes!