If they were so good, how come England became a better team after they fucked off?
>>156683610Bunch of overrated turds. People call this the golden age but what was fucking golden about it? Absolutely NOTHING.
Good players but not a good team
they were good but get a bit overrated with the nostalgia of italso other teams were simply better. back then everyone had a great player or two. then Brazil, as hard as it is to believe now, had great players and also worked beautifully as a team
>>156683610Norf FC with a few muambas
our black queen eugenics program is producing niggas like Bellingham rn why should we go back
>>156683610crazy what happens when Transchester Dilated players don't shit up the starting lineup
>>156683610they all hated each other with the club BSalso not one of these players would be in the 'great' category. they're 'very good' at best. nobody's Mbappe tier here
>>156683610It's so fucking stupid because they were better right BEFORE this as well. They were a far stronger team with Shearer than with Rooney
Beside David James, man for man, that quality is unrivalled. Its a cope to say otherwise. England was still deeply attached to a 442 system. It didnt fit this squad at all.
>Bellingham has already scored more world cup goals than Owen, Rooney and Lampard combined
They did okay for their era. People complained about the quarter-final finishes, but that basically means you're a top 10 team and that was about the level of this England era. Specially, the midfield couldn't compete at the highest level.Cole, Terry, Campbell are three of the best EPL era defenders, and Rooney and Owen could exceptional up front but the rest just didn't work. James wasn't nicknamed "Calamity James" without reason, and the midfield pairing of Lampard and Gerrard, famously, never gelled. On the wings, Beckham could put a good cross in but that was his sole super power. And, of course, the left wing was then famously a problem because no one was good in that position and sticking Scholes there didn't help.
they faced other great generations
Beckham the only good one
>>156683610We were such unbelievable goys back then. These players prioritized club football over playing for their country so would always hide their power levels from each other while the literal opposite was the case for every other country.
>>156683610They didn't. That England team was better than the current team who have struggled against Ghana, Congo, Mexico and Norway in this world cup.
>>156684645That England team used to struggle against Trinidad and Tobago
>>156683610They couldn't play together. Gerrard said in a recent interview that he hated playing for that team. Also keep in mind that back then, Germany, Holland, Portugal, Italy, Brazil, Czech Republic, even Russia were actually great teams.
Too many munichs in the set up and even though they had le premier league legends, they weren’t anywhere near the best teams in the world
>>156683610I forgot how gormless rooney looked
>>156685588You're very easy to spot on sp and pol. You've got a very distinctive mix of mental health, mental handicap, sentence structure and vocabulary
>>156683610They played like 20 years ago. Before iPhone man.Before iPhone.
>>156685663I don’t post there. I barely post here. That team was shite and would get battered by the current England squad, Southgates squad and the Shearer/Gascoigne/Lineker era teams that came before itPeople gamerfaced about the EPIC midfield options who were either Scouse vermin or cheating munichs. No one from the North West should ever be allowed to play for England again
>>156684226Ashley cole i think made 'best of the tournament team XI' left back in every major that he played in
>>156683610There were loads of different problems>Uneven spread of talent across the pitchEngland had too many quality players in the same positions, and none in others. Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard (and Beckham were he playing today) were all similar central midfielders who wanted to play in the same space. Meanwhile, there were literally no top-class wingers, aside from Joe Cole, but even he's more of an attacking midfielder.>Bad tacticsThe uneven team profile meant England needed quite radical tactical solutions and probably at least one world-class player getting dropped. Sven had neither the tactical nous or bottle to do either of those things. Instead, he stuck with a flat 4-4-2, a relic of his 90s heyday, which meant the team were always outnumbered in midfield and struggled to keep the ball. When asked years later why he did this, Sven replied (paraphrasing), "The press would have killed me if I dropped a player like Scholes." That says it all. >Immature personalitiesThe England squad were, almost to a man, a bunch of twats. Nearly all of them had multiple scandals, including Sven. They weren't well-liked as people, which made it hard for the public to truly love them as a team. They famously didn't even like EACH OTHER and certain players wouldn't mix because they belonged to rival clubs. >PenaltiesYou could argue that going out on penalties twice is bad luck, but it's clear that, while they did take penalties in training, they didn't really practise them in a modern sense. There was never any plan as to the order of takers; it was just left to players to volunteer on the day. And between the walk from the halfway line to kicking the penalty, England players took about half as much time as most other nations. In other words, they rushed their penalties and the lack of planning cost them.>No team psychologist All of the above problems were compounded by Sven's express decision NOT to bring a team psychologist with him. Word limit reached
>ferdinand Incompetent drug addict. Stole a living at his club and fraudulently represented England. Played awfully every time>terryFat midget who had no business being a centre half and, much like Rio, fell apart when he didn’t have referees and world class teammates bailing him out>scholesShit. Not overrated, just shit>beckhamBest player on that team >SolDecent footballer>ColeAs above>nevillethere weren’t many alternatives>gerrardle epic YouTube blooter reel man >rooneyReally good but played out of position by that alcoholic Scottish nonce so was compromised for England>david JamesShould have been Paul Robinson>owenCompletely crippled
>>156683610I wonder if it was actually possible with a 5-3-2>Gerrard and Rooney drifting to the left to help Ashley Cole>Neville as right CB with Beckham as WB>Scholes pinging passes to Owen>Lampard wandering around when no one expects him
>>156683610> better teamthey're not, football is shit
>>156683610For this current team you would take Ashley Cole, Sol Campbell, Paul Scholes and that's it. People in England always struggle to be comfortable saying "we're watching the best now" and be comfortable saying this is the best we actually have. The current team is as good as England have ever been. Lineker, Robson, Barnes weren't better either.
>>156683610scholes held the team back
>>156683610>Beckham and Rooney>golden generationFucking kek. Who makes up this shit?
>>156686323Its hard to comprehend the brain that typed this out.
>>156686384Nice reply spastic, really added something to the conversation. The reality is you're still idol worshipping, it's a team game. This team beats Mexico 86, Italia 90, Korea/Japan 2002
>>156686323True, Jude alone clears any of the slipping frauds you used to have
Lampard, Gerrard and Scholes were good at eplel football with constant end to ends and loose balls they could blooter, they couldn’t manage big European matches, retaining possession as required. They needed Xabi Alonso, Essen/Makelele, Keane type players alongside to be effective, and England didn’t have one
All mercenaries
>>156683913>man for man, that quality is unrivalledBut most everyone else had strong generations at the same time. They were eliminated by Portugal twice in the space of two years, a country which had only qualified for the WC twice before Figo came along.
>>156683610they were shit and one dimensional. imagine asking Terry and Campbell to play out from the back. we had to hoofball it so often Crouch and Heskey kept being brought in.the team may have worked if Hargreaves and Scholes were the midfield base but Sven was too busy fucking secretaries to care
>>156683827Believe me, if your lads manage to win it all, in 20 years no one will even remember any of the names of the guys in OP's pic.
>>156683827I love black pussy
The Prem had become the most marketable but was still behind both La Liga and Serie A (and probably Bundesliga at the top end).The standard of the Prem now is just top-to-bottom on a whole other level to what it used to be. Brentford and Bournemouth players play for teams like Brazil. Serie A and La Liga are now shit (or at least comparatively a lot shitter)
>>156686648We're comparing England generations anon. You're not going to tell me madueke is better than beckham etc. That Anderson is better than Robson. Its absolutely laughable. The level of newfag edgelord in this thread is incredible. Other countries also had great generations, Brazil, Germany are perhaps most notable. Portugal.
>>156683610Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard played in the same role/position. It's the same thing as happened in Portugal this year with Vitinha, Bruno Fernandes, Bernardo Silva. You can't fit them all together.
>>156687978Even Czech had a scary team with Nedved, Poborsky, Cech, Baros, Koller, Smicer, Rosicky. The level of talent was too high.
>betterHave England won anything since they fucked off?
