Bus parking, shootouts, cards
>teams are rewarded for not playing the game. Cape Verde advanced on 3 ties from 3 busses parked. Greece wins the entire 2004 Euro from parking, Korea to semis in 2002, etc. Complete incentivized bus parking exposing that the very nature of the sport is broken
>Ultra precious every 4 year global tournaments are decided by a gimmick exchange of penalty kicks, which would be like deciding a basketball game on a free throw duel. Completely unnatural to the game. A farce
>refs arbitrarily award common fouls vs yellows up to his sole discretion. Sometimes a yellow is the end result from a series of minor infractions, sometimes not, no one knows. Red cards resulting in the permanent removal of a player and an additional missed game makes no sense, is outrageous especially now that covering your mouth literally results in a red. Why does a player get suspended for 2-3 games because he grazed a shin with the sole of his shoe. Biggest faggot shit imaginable

Format, offsides
>the group stage format makes zero sense, based entirely on the luck of the draw, and is then incongruent with the following knockout stage
>if a players toe is 1 mm offside, a goal is retroactively disallowed 5 minutes later, when zero competitive advantage was gained. Completely contrary to the spirit of the rule and turns it into an even more broken sport

Balance of competition
>1000 teams able to compete for champions league, only the same 5-8 teams ever win
>unlimited bankrolls from foreigners ensures that smaller clubs can literally never compete. Smaller clubs are then punished for not having Qatari billions and relegated to backwater irrelevant leagues. Absolute peak soulless Jewish perversion of sport
>Hundreds of nations able to compete for the WC, only 8 have won it

Foreign influence and advertising
>There is precisely nothing English about the EPL. Owned by Arabs/jews/chinese/americans, played by browns and blacks, supported by jeets and third worlders, managed by continental Europeans. Similar story in all major leagues
>Teams sellout their team identity to a brand. Chevrolet United, Yokohama tires FC, even Chinese scripts ads on EPL jerseys

Monosport peasants won't be able to respond to any of this

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100% agreed. Soccer these days is a fucking embarrassment.
Players are rewarded for playing scummy, diving, lying.
It's an embarrassment of a semen slurping sport with too much favoritism.

>>156696202
agreed. its fun to play but annoying and lame to watch. i dont think the rigging has ever been this blatant

>>156696202
My guess is that some of this is by design. They want people to argue about decisions, create news headlines with various angles etc. That way football gets more attention and everyone participating is paid more.

thanks chatgpt

>>156696202
VAR alone is reason enough to hate divegrass. In the NFL the equivalent would be taking a TD away because of an uncalled hold 6 plays before. I have no idea how yuros tolerate this shit.

>>156696202
It truly is garbage. At this point it's just sunk cost fallacy for the rest of the world that this is the sport they've sunk 90% of their time, money and talent into forever, so they have to cling to it.
Really just makes me glad that the US opted out of this shit and embraced our own unique sports culture instead. It's far from perfect, but every time soccer has a big event, it's a reminder of how much worse it could be.

>>156696202
The best part is Americans have the best critical analysis of the sport with no bias, yet our opinions are discarded on the face of it, as if soccer is some super complex thing we aren’t capable of understanding

By every metric, it’s by far the most flawed sport in the world

VAR is fine. The field ref getting to decide anything without looking at the replay is not. Just look at the Messi dive from last game. Anyone with eyes in their head cam look at that replay and see that Messi runs into the guy, but somehow the ref doesn't give him yellow and instead grants Argentina a kick. Meanwhile in that very same game the Swiss nigger gets carded for diving and sent off the field.
VAR is not the problem, its arbitrary application to consistently favor bigger teams is. They should get rid of the ref entirely and make VAR decide everything. Just have a "VAR communicator" on the field to tell the players what VAR decided. Also, since they have a chip in the ball anyway, that whole data stream should be made available after the game or have a live graph in the corner overlaid on top of the game so viewers can see what the ball is doing.

>>156697378
Exactly, there’s too much global investment, energy, attention, history into it there’s no going back and they get more and more sunk into their gay shit getting worse and worse

>>156697330
>I have no idea how yuros tolerate this shit.
Funny you'd say that, because almost all instances of that have happened in a world cup held in the US, in games officiated by third-rate African/Asian VARs and refs and benefitted South American sides.

>>156696316
>B-BUT THE BEAUTIFUL GAME

>oh wow it hit the wire, that should have been called back, welp, ya win some ya lose some
>That's too many minutes taken off the board for a kick, it definitely interfered with his setup, welp, ya win some ya lose some
>that should under no circumstance be a red card, welp, ya win some ya lose some
>Wow all refs from the other team's home country, welp, ya win some ya lose some
It's so incredibly cucked. The ref worshipping is especially retarded.

>>156697447
>as if soccer is some super complex thing we aren’t capable of understanding
And in reality it's the most braindead retarded sport in existence, which is why it's the sport of choice for most of the third world.

>>156697491
>since they have a chip in the ball anyway, that whole data stream should be made available after the game or have a live graph in the corner overlaid on top of the game so viewers can see what the ball is doing.
This is the most damning evidence to me that something shady is going on. Why not just release all the data and put the controversy to bed? We get literally nothing but a squiggly line.

I'm not a soccer fag like you guys but I've watched almost every WC match. Offsides and VAR suck and ruin the games. I dont know the answer but they need to be a little more lenient on these penalties. It's taking away the fun of the game

VAR should be used to call dives that the ref missed, or actual punch ups on the pitch.
Unfortunately they're beeping the ref with every infringement they pick up, and the ref can't tell them to do one without looking suspicious himself.

All very valid points except maybe the bus parking one. If you can't outdribble a basic bus parking team it's an unironic skill issue.
It's like seething about a chess player playing extremely defensively, which a lot of chess players tend to absolutely hate

>>156698693
they almost took another one away last night

>>156698410
>which is why it's the sport of choice for most of the third world.
I find it interesting how soccer gained popularity in Cuba as it gets even more impoverished and people who had the foresight to escape had fled

>>156698451
Because to do this they would have to admit the ball sensor system is a buggy nightmare that is impossible to get accurate data from. It is much easier to make shit up and retire it after this WC. There is simply no chance in hell they are properly coordinating 12+ balls with a different one in play at any given time with perfect fidelity.
Just watch, after this WC they will make up some BS reason as to why they aren't going to continue with these ball sensors in the future.

>>156698693
>VAR should be used to call dives that the ref missed, or actual punch ups on the pitch.
Managers/coaches of each team should be able to request a VAR review. Perhaps limit the number allowed. If the call is overturned, the team retains their number of challenges

>>156696661
What happened to him ? Did he had needle in his shoe?

>>156696661
White boy kicked him so hard he lost all forward momentum

why are you this mad about a sport you don't like, I couldn't imagine making a thread like this about cricket or something

>>156696202
But you don't care, right?

I didn't watch soccer at all until the WC. I've always heard about the flopping around dive grass aspect, but though it might be overblown. I was wrong. The dramatics are a total non starter for me. Very feminine and gay. I don't watch basketball as much for the same reason.

>>156698316
>>Wow all refs from the other team's home country, welp, ya win some ya lose some
When did this happen, this cup? The refs are always from a 3rd country to the best of my knowledge.

>>156699111
The US loss was forgotten after 1 hour

>>156698773
So the best teams have a skill issue

>>156701409
No, not really, otherwise you'd constantly see teams other than the best teams winning. The Greece win was a once in half a century type of thing

>>156702089
Greece, Korea semis, Chelsea bus parked most of CL in 2012 to a fluke win in PKs when Bayern was significantly better, Portugal bus parked a lot of 2016, inter upset Barca 2010 parking and then won

That’s way too many examples and probably many more someone with more historical knowledge could confirm

>>156696202
imagine how bad it was before the video referee. every serious sport gets video review. the top soccer divisions didn't get VAR until a few years ago, and the implementation of it was still dog shit.

its better with VAR than it was before the var because before they could review shit there would be goals that were off side that shouldn't have been scored, or plays that werent offside that were or could have been goals deleted. or really dumb red cards that shouldn't be red cards. pretty much every weekend. you could watch 5 games in a weekend and in every single one of them pre-var there'd be things in that game that VAR would have fixed, it was REALLY dog shit. another example they just added video reviews of corners this world cup. so VAR has been out for a few years and they only just now added that in. that should have been a rule from the beginning because people always complain about corners that were given or not given.

people still hate the refs but believe it or not its better than it was. the video reviews need to get better, they need to be faster and they need to be able to review more aspects of the game. but importantly the core rules of the game in terms of time wasting and dirty play need to change too because there's too much "referee interpretation" around what's a foul or what's not a foul and players are quite good at dirty tactics that are still very strong in the video ref era. so it starts with the rules and updating rules faster than once a decade. better rules -> better reffing -> less dirty play -> nicer games.

>>156702521
>imagine how bad it was before the video referee
we don't have to imagine. It was way better than the shit we have now. Anything that isn't visible to a human eye is IRRELEVANT. Disallowing goals should be an absolute exception and it was until you faggot science trusters came in

It's all rigged. Too much money at stake. No rule change can change this.

>>156702348
Damn, you must've solved football anon. Apparently all you need to do is to buspark, I wonder why not all teams just do that
Maybe you should become a coach at Bayern

>>156702521
>there would be goals that were off side that shouldn't have been scored
I'd take some offside goals by human error over literally nitpicking whether or not a ball might have made contact with someone's hair tips to classify a goal as offside.
If you understood why the offside rule exists in the first place, you'd also understand why it was never supposed to rule out goals based on a few millimeters of a shoulder or a shoe overlapping some imaginary line. There's a reason why before there was a goal line technology, the general guideline for referees was to rule in favour of the attacker in very close situations.
All that went out of the window with the new technology. Which, by the way, is not as accurate as you want to believe. The cameras catching the game have a framerate of 30 fps. But let it be 60 fps even. How fast do you think an attacker can move in a sixtieth of a second? It's not just five millimeters. It's more like ten centimeters. Sometimes maybe even twenty. And now you have to get one frame based on when that fucking ball sensor detected some fucking contact. The whole wire thing in the England/Norway game proved how reliable that one is. It's fucking ridiculous.

>>156696202
>Format, offsides
>>the group stage format makes zero sense, based entirely on the luck of the draw, and is then incongruent with the following knockout stage
The teams are seeded, it is objectively false that it depends "completely on the luck of the draw".
>and is then incongruent with the following knockout stage
It's completely congruent - each team gets 3 games guaranteed because it gives them a chance to have a bad game and still continue, the group stage is the most sensible part. It's also reassuring for the team and supporters that they will get 3 games no matter what. It would be stupid to take that away.
Another round robin phase rather than knockouts has been tried in the past (1974 world cup) where the only games left to play were the final and 3rd/4th place playoff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974_FIFA_World_Cup Probably it's fairer, however that has its own issues such as hoping for other teams to get results despite being out of the running and the amount of games that has to be played which would be out of the question for 48 teams.

>>if a players toe is 1 mm offside, a goal is retroactively disallowed 5 minutes later, when zero competitive advantage was gained.
This is again objectively 100% false. Not sure if you're baiting with these but this shows you never watch football at all. If you are offside but don't interfere with play then it's not an offence. Please familiarize yourself with the most basic rules before writing your next thesis.

Also, 1mm is fine to call offside as long as the rule is applied consistently. There will always be a situation at the end of the day where 1mm in either direction would be offside or onside... right? Preciseness is not an issue.

>>156696202
trvke
To fix football they either need to make scoring much more easy so that ref decisions weigh less, or change the rules so that refs are needed as little as possible

>>156703219
Yes. When a bad call is made in basketball, worst case it’s less than 2% of a teams points. When a bad call is made in soccer, it may be 1 of 2 scores for the entire game. The standard must be immaculate under those circumstances, yet it’s the inverse

>>156702927
Yeah, that’s exactly what happened. Bayern was an all time team better than Germany 2014 and lost to old boomers and journeymen who parked the bus and won on penalties - aka refusing to engage in the game, because you can’t compete, in order to win by technicality with a carnival tier gimmick

>>156697233
Kek, cooked that sperg

>>156703750
NTA, but there are ways to counterplay bus-parking. Those do come with risks, of course (which is why you need a decent defense for it to work). But generally speaking, quick horizontal passes work to draw the opponent apart and create gaps in their wall. Your own attackers going deep into the defense and hoping for a long pass can give you a lucky goal if you try it often enough (but also lead to a loss of possession and counterplay). Forcing corners is a way to create chances and is reliable enough. Forcing penalities usually doesn't work though.
Most important thing is that your players stay on their feet and can adapt, switch roles if necessary and operate both offensively and defensively.
Worst case, if you manage to keep controlled possession and attack in bursts, you will still tire out the defenders over time. Parking the bus can be taxing on an already physically inferior team.

Now, the big problem with that whole strategy is something you saw in both of the Paraguay games, against Germany and France: You need to be able to rely on both teams playing fair. Or at least the referee to step in and and make sure they do. Paraguay didn't play "destructively" because they parked the bus, they did so because they also committed dirty fouls the whole time keeping their opponents from playing their game effectively. And the referee did not step in. For Germany that meant being able to score a goal but getting it disallowed over basically nothing and not receiving a clear penalty for a bearhug from a Paraguayan player. For France, it meant not being able to get any tactical play completed and never getting a chance to score from open play, only advancing due to an early penalty they got.

TRVTHNVKESPQQK

>Americans believe that bad refereeing decisions are a mistake and not by design
kek

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>>156696271
Gee thanks Chat

>>156703056
Automatic Ball Strike in baseball is very accurate, and that's a handheld ball that can go 100 mph (160 km/h). The problem in the implementation of technology here is they did it in a dogshit way. Perhaps a center of gravity of the players' torsos or something is a better implementation than his pinky accidentally extending a bit.

The ball sensor thing as implemented i think is absolutely bunk. There's no way it doesn't respond to kicks while going apeshit when brushing past a guy's hair.

Technology to make accurate calls could work, they just didn't bother

>>156707016
>playing the referee is part of the game
that's awful

>>156707884
There just needs to be a margin of error. There actually is in the premier league. They have a "thickness" to the offside line, so the guy's toe wouldn't be offside. I say just make the line a foot thick, 6 inches in either direction, so you can be 6 inches off and not get it called against you.

>>156698847
No they'll keep blagging it like they're doing already. FIFA are shameless now.

>>156696202
My thoughts exactly.

I would do away with VAR entirely, maybe keep goal line and offside technology since those are very definite rules.

>>156708309
Goal line technology is good and reliable.
Offside technology is not, for reasons already stated several times by several anons ITT.