You do realize now that the MLS is built out to 30 teams we're going to remove the salary cap and take over soccer, right?
>Remove the salary caplmao. MLS is going to contract sooner than remove the salary cap. Once the messibux dry up they're going to be fighting for even their current minor relevancy.
>>156701089Its not going to be taken seriously or be completive with world football leagues if they still have a closed system and no pro reg.
>>156701089Not without a second division and proper academiesYou will be a money laundering league like the arabs
>>156704299Pro-rel is a meme. No one will care whether or not some third tier city like Columbus gets relegated or promoted. Every league has 5-10 serious teams and the rest is filler.
>>156701089They REALLY need to get on another network. It's the only way they'll grow
The problem with pro/rel is everyone wants the English version but don't realize it's not special without the $500 million jackpot at the end
>>156701089Keep the salary cap for american players to continue the pipeline to Europe but then also add a foreigner limit of 3 players and have them not be affected by the salary cap so you'll end up with the average MLS team being 3 good euro players having to carry 8 american shitters. imo that would make the league more entertaining to watch.
>>156701089they literally do not have a salary cap already anyway. Take a look at how LA and Miami have built their teams.
>>156701089>30 teamsI can't name 3 teams
>>156701089That's not enough. At best you will become a Saudi League, buying more old and famous players but having mediocre bottom talent.The MLS certainly has potential, but for that they need to figure out a consistent pipeline of decent young talent, which right now they don't have.
>>156705104>the English versionWtf are you talking about? It's the same in every European league. Nobody wanted to get rid of it when you didn't get that much money for being promoted.
>>156705403Another problem is international competition. Gold Cup will always be a meme
>>156705403>which right now they don't haveMLSNext is exactly thatJust gotta give em a few years to divert some sports talent
>>156705427Good news: we will be in the upcoming copa AmericasBad news: we will be hosting all copa Americas for the foreseeable future
wtf is this here?
>>156705474Oh that's interesting.That will probably eventually force a merger with the USL too>>156705486I meant club competition
>>156705420That's usually the example given by pro/rel fags, but the other examples are much worseMost USL teams share a stadium with a high school or college and don't have their own training facilitiesThey earn like 40k a year maxI know the team down in south Georgia folded like a week before the season startedSo the idea they can jump from that to competing in MLS, especially without the big paydayOther places have pro/rel usually have teams that are older than years old and involve either a big payday like England or the finances don't really matter if they stay up or go downSoccer will need to be taken way more seriously in the US before pro/rel can really become a thing
>>156705512The blue/green logo was better
>>156705514Ccl? I don't really think playing in the copa libertadores is going to be that helpfulHonestly would be better off trying to get into the uefa cl
>>156705514Argentina clubs are shit in club competitions but that doesn't stop them from forming a good national team.
Best thing US Soccer could do is pay the SEC to start mens college soccer and work hard to make mens college soccer the third most popular NCAA sport by revenue. Whole issue would be fixed. D1 college soccer should be like levels 3-5 if we had a pyramid for the top 60-80 teams. The academy stuff is not working and goes against the pipeline for the rest of our sports.
>>156705843If we're focused on developing kids after 18 we're fucked man
>>156705863nta but I think a college to pro draft system can work with funding, it's never been tried before.
>>156705686The only challenge you guys are going to have are Brazilian teams and the few top Argie teams yeah.>Honestly would be better off trying to get into the uefa clI don't think that would work travel wise, but I wouldn't be surprised if you guys were the ones to convince FIFA to make a World League above UCL, Copalib and all the others.>>156705705Oh I didn't mean it that way. If you only have one competition, eventually you are going to funnel all the talent and money to the top, specially if you remove salary caps. It's necessary to have mulltiple competitions and a good continental cup is great to keep the better teams in check because they will have to divide themselves between domestic and international duty. It can also work the opposite way if the international competition is too easy, because that means your top teams will farm at both the domestic and the internation scene. It's what's happening with brazilians clubs and Copa Libertadores right now, it has become too easy and teams are making money in the league, in the domestic cup, in copalib, and now in the club world cup too. The gap is only growing bigger.
>>156706064No ordinary American is going to give a shit about Velez Sarfield or CorinthiansAt least maybe they'd pay attention to Liverpool or Barcelona
>>156706112>No ordinary American is going to give a shit about Velez Sarfield or CorinthiansThey would after getting raped year after year. It's how all Brazilians grew to hate Boca Juniors despite not knowing shit about the argie league.>At least maybe they'd pay attention to Liverpool or BarcelonaWe have them both at homehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_F.C._(Montevideo)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcelona_S.C.
>>156706189MLS teams get rated by liga mx teams all the time in ccl and yet no one really gives a fuck
>>156706217Fair point, but wouldn't they be able to market this a bit more since it's against Brazil and Argentina?But you are right, the wise move financially would be to connect MLS to Europe somehow
>>156706253Liga MX is the biggest league in the US so no it wouldn't help
>>156706288>Liga MX is the biggest league in the US so no it wouldn't helpFair
>>156701089I didn't know MLS even had a salary cap. It's not like they can afford to pay the players with anything more than the loose change they found in the couch, so what's the point?
>>156706780They ignore the salary cap anyway. You really think Miami can fit Messi and his friends under a 6.4M cap?
>>156706808The salary cap is real. But you have 3 designated player spots. 3 players you can pay anything and it doesn't count against your salary cap.
>>156706856>The salary cap is real so long as you ignore all the ways it isn't real!lmao
>>156704299>>156704372just make USL the lower league and MLS the higher. maybe have a league below the USL (i think there already is one)problem solved
>>156704372This is very inaccurate
>>156705263just thought about it and you're totally righti can think of inter miami because of messi, la galaxy because they're the most well known and real salt lake because i used to live 5 minutes from their stadium that's all i know
>>156706982More difference between MLS teams and USL teams structurally than between EPL teams and the National League
>>156701089Seems fine to me desu.
>>156707031the point is it's a start without having to completely create an entire new league out of thin air
>>156701089That's nice but we can go back to being Dallas Burn instead of FC, everyone loved the throwback stuff last year please I beg you
>>156706919It's still capped for 90% of the roster
Here's the good news, America. You don't care.For how undeveloped the MLS and the USL and the college level soccer league is, you're able to put together a team that can get into the RO16. There are what, 150 countries around the world that can't do that. You get further than Scotland and qualify more than Scotland, Wales, Ireland, etc which carry more football culture. The side effect of this is that you won't be taking over soccer anytime soon because you've done the easy part, which is to get the MLS on a stable footing as a middling sport that might just have modern day professional wrestling-tier following. The hard part is making anyone outside of weirdos and yuppie europhiles and mexicans give a fuck.Changing the network won't do it because people aren't going to start watching soccer out of nowhere. You can't make a second division because no one is interested in starting teams without a guarantee of playing in the MLS first division. The USL are not willing to work with the MLS, and the MLS changing how they pay players or getting rid of caps will just make the gap between the leagues larger. I genuinely believe that soccer is probably at the end of its massive "boost" period in the US, from here it'll look more natural in growth, it won't be fast and it won't outpace the other sports. The problem that the MLS has as well is that no european is watching the MLS, but there are europeans who will watch the NFL and NBA, there are people all-around the world who'll watch those sports. Until domestically you care, you ain't going anywhere and you're seeing a slow painful growth no matter how much money you throw at the problem.
