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Absolutely baffling from Tuchel. I had been a big proponent of him in this tournament, got most big calls right.

Argentina are NOT fucking Mexico. You can't just reduce Argentina to nothing but crosses and pump them out for 35 minutes. Insane decision to make. Just keep hold of the ball like Spain, string passes together and take advantage of Argentina over committing to get a second goal.

Instead when Argentina do score we now have a jumbled side with all the wrong players on the pitch like Dan Burn and no outlet upfront as everyone is still too deep when we need to be at the other end of the pitch trying to score. Absolute fucking madness, we were 1-0 up and they were rattled.
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Leave Tuchel in the US.
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>>156823763
He got the call from big yahu
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>>156823763
Zis iz de history of Inglund
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In all honesty, it was such a big fuck up that he should be sacked just for it.
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More like Tuchus
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It was baffling. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
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Anyone could've gotten this England squad to at least the quarterfinals desu. Probably could've made it this far having not subbed anyone out the entire tournament. Colossal failure
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tuchel should be tried for war crimes
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>>156823763
Has he said why he subbed off Gordon and Rice? I supported him too, but that was the single worst tactical decision I have ever seen, and I play sunday league football.

If I were Gordon I genuinely think I would have refused to leave the pitch. The manager and the ref cannot force a player off the pitch for a substitution.
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>>156823763

>Just keep hold of the ball like Spain, string passes together

he didn't select a squad that was capable of doing that. Bellingham is essentially a second striker, Rice and Anderson are DM spoilers, and everyone else is a headless chicken ngubu.
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>>156823763
play to win? we dont that on Germany!
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Script said its time. Imagine believing this shit
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>>156823763
100% agree with every word you said. I am truly sorry.
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>>156824409
Will probably say it's fitness or something like that.
Butt in reality, He lost his nerves and tried to play conservative in the big game
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>>156823763
Tuchel better write a full novel for why he decided to follow the same strategy that every single team that lost against Argentina did
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>>156823763
the biggest self inflicted capitulation I've witnessed. Even Southgate is sat at home thinking wtf
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>>156824409
>f I were Gordon I genuinely think I would have refused to leave the pitch.
Professional footballers don't pull tantrums like that if they want to start again.
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>>156824538
If the concern was fitness, he could have brought on Rashford and Mainoo for Gordon and Rice.

He absolutely had a sudden rush of shit to the brain and lost his bollocks.
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>>156823763
Sorry to break it to you but you're not winning against Messi with a better coach. You should be lucky it was only 2 goals in the second half.
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>>156824667
That fuck did the same shit in every match he's ever played though.

Which makes it more strange. Maybe English players have fitness or mental problems so the coaches are helpless?
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>>156823763
>Just keep hold of the ball like Spain, string passes
England doesn't have any players capable of this.
If you attempt this, you would lose the ball within a minute thanks to the inevitable missed pass. You would lose even more embarrassing.
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>>156824712
I know. But when the manager is trying to pursue a strategy that will OBVIOUSLY lose you such a big game, you refuse to comply and hope they thank you later when they see how fucking retarded they were being.
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>>156824945
tuchel is deservedly getting a lot of shit, but this is an English player mentality that buys into it no matter who is in charge
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>>156823763
Your players were shitting the bed before he made any subs. They lost their head and were dead on their legs. Hoofing the ball away and zero pressing. He made the subs to support what the players were showing him. Doesn't matter, it was so obvious you guys were going to stab him in the back after the first loss like the rat cunts you are because you can't handle a German being in charge.
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he was great until tonight.
>>156823763
>Argentina are NOT fucking Mexico.
he will be going to bed thinking about this over and over. the bus works against retarded, inferior teams. england's strength this cycle was its midfield and attack, not catenaccio. almost feel bad for him. failure of judgement at the most crucial moment.
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>>156825223
This, I saw English press hard the first half and knew this wouldn't end well because they aren't stamina monsters. They gassed after 70th and just stood in the box.
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literally everyone could see this coming, everyone in the sticky could, and a second goal after was inevitable, as the game totally turned in momentum

i'm still fucking seething
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>>156823763
Dude might have looked good with a goatee
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BEEP BEEP BEEP
WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG LOL
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>>156825333
Checked. I do feel bad for him. He miscalculated. We’ve all done it before.
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>>156825191
this is a cogent point. there is something in your players where they shrink in big moments regardless of coach. you had the talent to win this world cup and it's shocking you didn't make the final given the relative weakness of your side of the bracket.
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>>156824409
Rice is broken. He looked gassed and his hamstring is about to explode.
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>>156825191

it has improved in recent years. past England teams would have gone into the Azteca totally unprepared and lost.
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>>156825686
It did look like that
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England clearly didnt have the conditioning to compete this deep in the tournament. They were running on empty for most of the match. Same thing happened to Egypt. They just ran out and got run over
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>>156825981
What happened against Mexico is why we lost tonight. It was the right tactic with 10 men, but 1-0 is the most dangerous of leads. Should have been brave with his subs. But yeah, there's a mentality issue at play here.
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>>156823763
poor guy had to face messi and now gets dogpiled on by salty england fans.
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>>156823763
The slander is stupid, he’s done amazing for his first outing! Fuck sake, the German did good! He’s the man! Let’s build on him! Support him.
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>>156823763
You will never escape him.....
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>>156825191
Yeah it's an English player mentality which is why they play great for their club coaches. Stop being retarded.
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>>156826367
NEIN NEIN NEIN!
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>>156823763
A Southgate-esque performance by big T today.
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>>156826367
This is the reaon England never gets anywhere. The dumb cunts call for the managers head anytime they dont fucking win (which is always). They seem to think they are meant to win everything and shit their pants when it doesn't happen
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>>156826322
Trvthnuke
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nothing is certain except death, taxes, and retarded coaches "parking the bus" when they are up by 1 with 30+ minutes to go.
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>>156824409
He said there were too big gaps in the defence when the crosses came in.
How about putting some fresh midfielders on and stop the fucking crosses coming in in the first place.
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Think he needs sacking after Saturday, just such a calamity he needs to go
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>>156826430
how many english teams are english? The premier league is 80% non english. Anderson 130m? Fuck me how much is Rodri worth. Score within 5 minutes at Wembley in a euro final, fuck it up. Get back on terms against Spain in the next final, don't go for the kill, fuck it up. Even at 2-1 the punts up the field weren't even hoping for anything. Lose on penalties 9 times out of 10, it's not in them to see what's in front of them needs to be taken it isn't handed over
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>>156824712
<Günter Netzer laughing in the distance>
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grim
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>>156826553
why do the English hate this guy? literally never gets mentioned in any context
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>>156823763
The whole Dan Burn thing is such a meme. How do these guys get paid millions to come up with this trash?
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>>156826367
Why can’t I hold all this loosh?
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>>156826553
Nuketruth

Englel never learn
ABE bros never lose
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"Attack me defense lad, there you go, good boys..."
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To be fair Tuchel's strategy was also hard-countered by Scaloni's late substitutions. He probably saw Tuchel's defense condensing into the back and realized that Lautaro "The Bull" Martínez could break through with his peak header skills.
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>>156823763
he knew spain would humiliate us, so he let us lose in a close game to preserve the players morale
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>>156825030
>that will OBVIOUSLY lose
kek
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>>156826822
>1-0
>penis suddenly shrinks inside body
>asshole suddenly loosens and craves a pounding
the english mentality ladies and gentlemen
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>>156824667
>Even Southgate is sat at home thinking wtf
Nah he'd wonder why there's still yt boys on the team.
People forget that Three Lions travesty too quickly.
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>>156823763
Why did he park the bus gainst Argentina but not against Norway?
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>>156823763
He's a hack, like every England manager since Hoddle, a complete fraud. England were not good tonight, Argentina deserved to win. The minute we scored Tuchel went incredibly negative with tactics, thinking we could defend against Argentina for 30 minutes plus with a low line. We were found out. Tuchel should probably get until after the Euros.
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>>156824647
This
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Hey, be thankful.
At least you didn't have to do the BLM kneeling thing against Argentina.
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>>156827620
I never forgot.
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>>156823763
>Argentina are NOT fucking Mexico
Ah, I see you know your geography well.
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>>156823763
He should have had his team play pressing (!) for at least some 5+ min to demoralize Argentina's anticipated attempt to equalize.
Instead he allowed them to unfold their game more or less unhindered right after scoring the lead.
He missed the chance to break their will.
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idk man there's no strategy to this sport, it's literally luck kick
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>>156826571
He’s a brainlet, he chose to be reactive instead of proactive

How fucking hard is it to realize a good offense is the best defense
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"Maybe this explains why player Jude Bellingham said the following: 'If people knew what happened in the World Cup, they would be disgusted.'
Every English person was shocked and saddened to have lost the 2026 Soccer World Cup to Argentina. They shouldn't be.
What is laid out below is the firsthand news currently being investigated by radio stations and newspapers across England and some abroad—specifically, The Sun, The Wall Street Journal, and Gazzetta dello Sport—and it should hit the media soon, as soon as the evidence is gathered and the facts are confirmed.
Proven fact: England SOLD the World Cup to FIFA.
The English players didn't know anything until they entered the tunnel toward the locker room. It was exactly there, during halftime, that they were informed."
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>>156829264
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>>156823763
Argentina didnt win
England Lost
Completly dumb decition to end the Game 35 minutes before it ends
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>>156827468
Scaloni fucked up his starting xi. Simeone was dogshit possibly the worst player at the WC and your #26 dozed off to let Gordon score

Tuchel fucked up his subs and luckily for Scaloni early enough for the pressure to build

Both coaches didn't cover themselves in glory
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>score
>you know what? lets defend for the rest of the match, then when in need let's hoof it to kane

might as well just hire Roy Hodgson
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>>156829684
>like, let me sub in BURN, I am sure he is going to solve the incoming thunderstorm Argentina has shown during the last 10 minutes on every single game

>Rashford? you're in! OH BTW we are 2 - 1 down, against the last wc winner, who are known to create absolute HELL on the last minutes
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>>156825333
He isn't getting any sleep tonight and if he does, England are fools for keeping him as manager.
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>>156826553
Owen for England manager
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>>156826553
he had great moments when he was a player, against Argentina btw...
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>>156823763
Paid off
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>>156829639
so true, simeone jr and molina were trash. As soon as they got subbed off we started playing good
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>>156823763
>>156824063
Genuinely the biggest fuck up I’ve seen from a manager at this level
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>>156831168
I did the minute of silence when he subbed off paredes, but it was fine
he has been trying to do some strange fuckery lately, like de paul over simeone, what are you trying to accomplish with that
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>>156826553
That’s a shockingly correct and well made point from a man with a room temperature IQ
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>>156826553
How fucking retarded must Tuchel be to get IQ mogged by Owen out of all people?
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>score
>park the bus for the rest of the match
Now I see with most burgers hate this sport and say nothing happens, this shit is so fucking boring
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>>156823763
Looks like tuchel got touched in the end
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>>156824278
Not true, not all managers could have coached a win in that Mexico game. He just somehow completely fell off a cliff today and lost his head
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>>156823763
when argentina switched on after minute 60 kane and bellingham signaled to pickford that they were finished after pickford kept kicking out long balls that argentina immediately won and countered, wearing down england even faster. fernandez started shooting from outside the 16 yd box with no one pressing him. at 68 minutes, pickford begs for a water break. pickford tells tuchel that he needs to make subs, that fernandez, messi and simeone are walking the ball in without resistance. that's when tuchel made the subs. tuchel was watching this too and felt he had no other option but to bring on defenders. it didn't work out for england.
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>>156823943

Remember the 7 million
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England should just accept that their players are mental midgets like ours. No coach can fix that.
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>>156827468
lautaro still a killa in a tourney full of pussy bitches
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>>156831919
So England was gassed and they had no choice but to hold on without offensive power whether or not they made all those substitutions?
Did they look gassed?
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>>156823763
I mena I did expect >us to lose, but it always seems to happen in the worst ways possible
in control until that first goal went in, then just played pussy and invited pressure, seen this backfire so many times for england and yet they never learn
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>>156832256
muh they were gassed is cope
The players and Tuchel are simpmy cowards couldn't handle having the lead with 40 minutes left.
Unironically scoring """"early"""" (kek) killed England
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We're in an era where managers have started to get egos and unironically think it's their retarded tactics that are winning the game. This retard pulled this same shit in the Norway game, almost threw because of it and has honestly only made it this far because of the quality of the players. This mong completely hamstring the team at every opportunity. We need more managers that shut up, sit back and just simply let the team play instead of trying to force their stupid meme gameplans.
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>>156832016
lol
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>>156826177
No leaders on the pitch
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>>156832427
yeah well said. coaches think they can sub unlike to unlike and change up formations like transformers while expecting players to perform with surgical precision all in a World Cup semis. Spain subs like for like and keeps the machine rolling. if it works, don't fix it.
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>>156824738
>bring on rashford and mainoo
>still lose
>all of england blames your decision regardless
at a certain point you have to look at the english players and stop blaming coach after coach when they fail to live up to their talent
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>>156824409
If they call you off for a sub and you don't exit the field of play in a timely manner the referee is obliged to caution you for delaying the restart. If you persist the referee is obliged to caution you again.
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>>156825458
kek
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>>156823763
He absolutely botched it. A choke job for the ages.
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>>156832791
Fuck off Americunt, you have no clue what you're talking about.
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What confused me is that this shit seems so onvious too.
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>>156831919
Why bring in defenders? Put Rashford and saka in to tire out the argies.
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Tuchel watched the Argies play this tourney and underestimated them. He was right that Argentina wasn't impressive thus far.
His major miscalculation though, is that Argentina is somewhat like the opposite of England, Argentina get better in big matches than you would expect.



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