>96>lead Germany>lose>98>lead Argentina>lose>02>lead Brazil>lose in flaccid fashion>04>lead Portugal until the 83 minute>lose>16>lead Iceland>lose>18>lead Croatia>lose>21>lead Italy>lose>26>lead Argentina>loseIt's not about tactics or player quality. England are simply /weakmind/. It's in their DNA.Outliers>06, 12 = 0-0, lose on pens to Portugal & Italy>10, 22, 24 = no weakmind, just outclassed start to finish by Germany, France, Spain>00, 14 = group stage exit, yes weakmind but also weaktactics and weakskill>08 = didn't even qualify, yes weakmind weaktactics and weakskill even in qualifying
india = never participated ever in the world cup of a sport you want to crow aboutyou have to go back
haha yeah makes for interesting reading if you just cherrypick games they lost when winning but ignore games they won when winning or games they won after going behind, 2 of them being in this world cup
>>156870079>starts seething about India out of nowhere under an English threadmeds
>>156870049>no weakmind, just outclassed start to finish by Germany, FranceWe were outrigged. We would've beaten them both if not for bad refereeing decisions (denied a goal against Germany and a penalty against France).
>>156870049The problem is that England still hasn't realized they are a dark horse team.
It's just scripted, nothing else to it lad. The (((powers that be))) hate England and English people.
>>156870049NB:OP is a white man who lives in York and spends his days pretending to be an Indian in a cricket thread
>>156870161You should see /v/, most threads there devolve into posters calling each other Indians.
The Brit has been buckbroken and I mean this completely unironically. Psychologically conquered
>>156870261Because of your Jew loving faggot country of obese lumpenprole
>>156870161OP is a paki from Leicester, he's upset every day because his parents abandoned your country.
>>156870138We're talking about big matches, against big teams. Imagine thinking a comeback win against Dr Congo is relevant here.
>>156870261I have a foreskin, can you say the same?
>>156870288haha yeah, if england took the lead against congo and then lost the fixture would be on your list though haha
I really don’t understand what the uproar is about. Yeah you got to a semi-final in a WORLD CUP and lost to a team that evidently is quite good. Why are retards like Goldbridge asking for Tuchel’s head? If it was against >us, or someone like Switzerland, sure I’d be pretty pissed about it too if I was English, but it’s the reigning champions for fuck sake. And it only ended 2-1. In what way is this some sort of embarrassment for you? If it was Southgate the media would be sucking him off just for making it this far - which they did, twice. You finally got a coach who puts actual performance over what badge the players’ club has and you immediately want him gone because he ‘only’ got to the semi-final about a year after he was hired. Fucking mental
>>156870357The Briton thinks he’s a lot more relevant than what he actually is. Losing to ArgenCHADS is salt in the wound
>>156870357i don't want him gone but switching to bus parking after scoring with 30+ mins left to play was particularly retarded from tuchel. it's a legitimate criticism. the players had been doing well before he decided to swap most of the team out for centre-backs. otherwise up until that moment, his substitutions in the prior games were generally good.anyway OP is a seething paki who dribbled out of /cric/.
>>156870357Because >we threw it away. Messi went old skool, over to the right side like in his younger days, and we granted him all that space for about 40 minutes straight. Like a third of the width of the pitch in the England half, that entire space for him to work his magic in. On top of that, glaring defending errors by Pickford, Stones, and arguably O'Reilly for the winning goal. It wasn't that we were beaten by an unstoppably better side, it's that we had the game in our control and we fucking threw it away.
>>156870357>I really don’t understand what the uproar is about. Yeah you got to a semi-final in a WORLD CUP and lost to a team that evidently is quite good. Why are retards like Goldbridge asking for Tuchel’s head?Because the loss was due to complete tactical ineptitude more than anything else. Literally everyone who knows anything about football (including non-English people) is saying that what Tuchel did makes zero sense. You don't just gift the opposition possession right after scoring, ESPECIALLT with Messi on the pitch. You don't take off the goalscorer who's clearly causing the opposition problems right after he scores. These are very very basic things that EVERY manager knows. Honestly, I suspect Tuchel and maybe even the England FA are in cahoots with FIFA and deliberately threw the match. It was THAT bad.
>>156870357>If it was against >us, or someone like Switzerland, sure I’d be pretty pissed about it too if I was English, but it’s the reigning champions for fuck sakeYou are unironically a better team than Argentina. That's why it's upsetting.
>>156870357>And it only ended 2-1imagine thinking the score is relevant here. it might as well have been a gorillion-1. tactical retardation and a collapse that could be seen the minute they scored are the issue. conceding two in 7 minutes is the issue.
>>156870421While I agree that Tuchel was atrocious in that game, there is one thing most English media is getting wrong. A change WAS needed, Tuchel was right about that, because even though an England goal came, Argentina was doing better and creating more chances.What Tuchel did only made things worse for England, and that's the correct criticism, but even down 1 goal I would have favored Argentina to win if things had continued the way they were going.
>>156870421For all of /sp/'s, to put it mildly, misgivings about pacey Ngubus, that as literally what we needed after taking the lead. Rashford, and one of Madueke/Saka/Watkins/Eze. Even Toney maybe. High and wide up the pitch, get the ball out to them and have them carry it as far forward as possible or hold it for as long as possible to waste time force Argentina to waste their time and effort defending, maybe even win fouls. Should have brought them on for Kane and Rice/Anderson at that point. Defending for 5 at the back for 40 minutes was retarded, btu tiki-takiing our way out of their pressure in our half wouldn't have worked either, they are better at that than us and it's too dangerous with Messi around. Clear the ball out to the two Ngubus high and wide, hogging the touchline, and move the play up, run down the clock, and relieve pressure on our own goal by forcing them to keep more men back to cover for the Ngubus.
>>156870357There isn't any with anyone with a functional brain, we are ranked 4th in the world and we'll probably come 4th in the tournament. Tuchel got it wrong on the day but everyone else gave their all, hopefully we'll do better in 2 years time. People just comes out of the woodwork for England a few other teams to try and make engagement bait.
The actual weakmind statistic:You literally NEVER won against a top 10 team in the knockout stage of the World Cup FOR THE PAST 28 YEARSyou literally are shitters who refuse to admit it. Every single time you faced a serious opponent in the non-meme phase of the competition, you lost.
>>156870618norway is ranked #9 on ELO albeit
>>156870618Mexico were ranked tenth when we played them, and we beat them with ten men at their ground.
>>156870618t. Tuchel
>>156870618how can one man be this wrong
>>156870357The world cup trophy was promised to them 60- wait no 64 years ago
we really are the international arsenal
Like what happened? Why, as their national team manager succinctly put it, the English DNA so weak?
>>156870712They've won something now though, can't even use Spurs either because they have too
>>156870646>>156870651Ok, so you’ve never beaten a top 8 team. Wow! Those 9th ad 10th placed teams are the hardest nut to crack amongst the top 10 after all
>>156870646>norway is ranked #9 on ELO albeitNorway is rank 19 retard>>156870651Fine. Let's do a *before the tournament started* asterisk. If that helps you cope lmao
>>156870049Manager's decision ruined our chances that match and sunk the players morale reacting to such a baffling decision of defending with 40 mins left. Players were mostly fine, their mentality I think was far better than in previous years overall. It's coming home next time
>>156870730We’ve won something too, we’ll always be tiny mind bottlers like arsenal it’s our dna
>>156870813Yeah we have but 60 years ago, not really recent is it.
>the Unites States of MLS will win the World Cup before England wins it againGrim.
>>156870738moving the goalposts is one thing but moving someone else's is just silly>>156870747ELO includes the tournament performances, so yes we did beat a top 10 side by your very own metric whether its FIFA or ELO rankings
>>156870261it's britjeet from /cric/bit of a failure of a person if you know his backstory
>>156870618Yeah but we smashed you 5-1 in your back yard.
>>156870894>muh heckin elorinoSorry, still not top 10 in the fifa rankings
>>15687035712% possession for the last half hour is unforgiveable. It's the second biggest capitulation ever at this level in World Cup history
>>156870357Because if you are a real coach you don’t give the spoon to fucking Leo Messi during 30 minutes so they don’t have to care about defending.
>>156870175Kane punted a peno 5 yards over the bar btelw
>>156871141>unironically bringing up World Cup quali Matches The absolute state
>>156870049This time it was absolutely tacticsTuchel brought on defenders hoping to hold on for 30+ minutes against an elite offensive opponent and the best player of all time
>>156870357England fans live under the illusion they’re a World Cup winning side when clearly they’re the 4th team at best
>>156871203Picrelated is when tuchel started bringing on defenders Busparking was clearly the only viable option at this point since the team refused to press on after the 1-0
>>156871253see>>156870541
>>156870357They have talented players who could have won something for a change.
>>156871253I don't understand why everyone is so reluctant to call out the players? I've seen some takes where there mention that England's goal was lucky to begin with and that they all realized this hence why both the players and Tuchel decided to park the bus.
>>156871384>why everyone is so reluctant to call out the players?It's easier to blame one personWe do the same with our coach, although he arguably does some retarded decisions too, like hating undav But ultimately there's barely any teamplay because there's no team spirit A good coach can fix this, but it takes years
>>156870517This, everyone is ignoring how the players fell apart after Englands first goal>>156871148And not all the managers fault, a manager can't create this much of a mess on his own
>>156870357>Mexico low block down a man was disciplined, and they still counteredThey blobbed up in the box like it was a primary school game and didn't avail themselves of the extra fullback & midfielder to stop those stupid crosses— and they never needed 4 at the top of the box, that 4th needed to stop the inside option in the Messi left. AND the low block front line refused to hold at the top of the box, or press at all, blobbing into the back 5/6 ...Basically, Norway with your properly rotated set of wingers and Haaland > whatever the fuck that was and the resultant non-chance creation after that one goal. Just deserts for centerback theatrics after groping Haaland. The pro wrestling script was better with Haaland v. Mbappe for goals to cuck Messi, oh well.
