So, why was it so bad? Why didn't they try to score any goals? My guess is that spain-france game was so brutal that argies realized they don't have a chance.
>>157039177They lost possession too quickly, before even getting upfield.
>>157039177Because our moronic head coach kept insisting on players over 30 who were completely physically broken, in fact, our defenders had to leave the pitch due to injuries.
>>157039177Watch the match? Spain didn't let them play at all, which was the same thing Spain did in all of their games, Spain was just that good, and Argentina plan crumbled after they got carded.
>0>0
>>157039177Because they didn't bench Messi so they were playing 10v11.
>>157039250What? Not even the fast and younger french ngubus were able to score against them
>>1570393999v11 to be correct
>>157039177They tried. It's just that everyone outside of Messi is some retarded jungle cunt who can't play to save their lives and relies on cheating, fouling, and either intimidating or tricking the refs into awarding them penalties. See also: that's how they won QatarUnfortunately for Argentina, it's hard to feign injury for penalties when you can't even touch the ball for more than a few seconds, and Spain dismantled their stupid bullshit that way.
We scored 3 goals to end up winning 1-0.
>>157039177Because argentina was a garbage team that was obvious to everybody. They shouldn't have made it out of the round of 32. Incredibly lucky(genuinely) and rigged little run.
>>157039523where was the rigging against england? they were the better them the entire game
>>157039177They just couldn't. You simply can't understand how hard Spain can neutralize an opponent. Messi touched the ball once (the kick off) in the first 15 minutes.
>>157039250You dont really have anyone else. Barco and Almada are putrid garbage and would've been bullied harder. What happened to that Real Madrid kid Masturbinho?
>>157039523England lost though.
>>157039561There wasn't really, that's why I added "incredibly lucky"Almost gets raped by Cape Verde of all fucking teamsGets raped by Egypt and then rig + generational blunder they skirt byAlmost gets raped by Switzerland and then the most egregious dive of the decade saves their assOn par with England and then the English players commit a generational blunder that an elementary school coach could have predicted was going to happenFinally face an actual team who plays calm and collected serious football, gets rapedI was calling Argentina a shit team since the jordan game lmfao. They scored on a pen + 2 bullshit freekicks, and jordan stunted on their defense with an amazing goalShit team, I feel vindicated
>>157039561Argentine mossad contacts inside the English FA tricked us into hiring a cowardly German manager
>>157039479So Argentina was too used to playing as Argentinians and Spain hard counter it.
>>157039177The England game was their final. They peaked too soon and were mentally drained for the final.
>>157039523It's not their fault they got a somewhat easy bracket, blame Penaldo choking to fucking Kongo.
>>157039177Spain just didn't let them breath.It was brutal.
>>157039177BEcause they were a bunch of tuercebotas than couldn't keep the ball for more than a few seconds, I never seen a worse team in such an important final.
>>157039177Even from my totally layman perspective Spain totally outmatched Argentina. Argentina responded by rough play borderline bullshit, and Spain responded with class and an even higher level of play. Argentina lost twice IMO.
>>157039633If that retard messi isn't playing well, not scoring or performing, then you should take him off and put in players who actually want to play, like this young guy. Not only that, De Paul and Nicolás González couldn't string a pass together, Barco would have been a great sub there. Thiago Almada would have been a good choice too, since he’s already torn Barcelona and Real Madrid apart plenty of times, and God... bottom line, it was a disaster. We lost because of the coach
>>157039796>>157039250this, Scaloni threw the game, he needs a tard wrangler
>>157039250what site do you use for these scores and how reliable are these scores
>>157039479>can't play to save their lives and relies on cheating, fouling, and either intimidating or tricking the refs into awarding them penaltiesIDK why you're trying to separate Pissi from this when it sums him up too.
I honestly think Argentina reached the final just by the power of prayers so they should be happy enough
>>157039177is this KWABOTY contender? that was really humiliating not a single shot damn
>>157039177>So, why was it so bad?the team was tired and injured, we couldnt even run nor passMolina, Montiel, Taglafico, Dibu, Paredes, Julian, Cuti, Licha and Messi all injuted / recovering from injuries.To that add we had matches that were physically demanding, that went to 120 minutes (Cabo Verde, Swtizerland, Spain).And we also had 1 fewer day to rest, which seems unimportant, but its a big factor, there is a reason why the team that has 1 extra rest day always wins.Now more than ever that its 8 matches instead of 7 and rest time is 2 or 3 days instead of 4+ at later stages of the game.To that add the emotional exhaustion of playing England with all it embodies.Honestly im surprised it ended 1 - 0.That said, we would have probably lost as well if we were not injured and fully rested, but at least we would have tried to score.
>>157039796>and put in players who actually want to play, like this young guyhe doesnt want to play...he was too nervous to play the Jordan game, when we were already guarateed first in groupand during the Swtizerland matchup, when we were 1 - 1 with a man advantage he had a fucking nervous breakdownif you think you can put someone like that to start in a WC Final you dont know shit
>>157040882They actually made 2 shots later but atp they were useless.
>>157039177Spain was very good and ours players were at 50%, my guess is that Scaloni knew how the game could be and decided to die on a hill with Qatar 22 players (+ Nico Gonzalez)
spain did spain things. Would be the best futbol known to man kind if they werent so shit at finishing.
>>157039177Argentina has been rigging this shit for some time, they didn't face a single top 10 team until the semis, then they relied on dirty play and referee help to beat England. Spain was prepared for it and their playstyle is all about keeping control of the field, Argentina didn't have a single chance on their own, all they did was kick the players rather than the ball, genuinely like fighting animals rather than professionals
>>157040740you can use sofascore and fotmob
>>157039177>Argentina: Bunch of animals relying on violence and the referee trying to give them as much advantage as they can possibly get>Spain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDjZXr1aSik
>>157042141>they didn't face a single top 10 team until the semis,Neither did Spain.
>>157042634Portugal>B-but Portugal only has Penaldo!!1!That's exactly what WC tourists thinkAlso Belgium is strong
First game that Argentina played in the heat.All other games they played had AC.
>>157039561England was clearly better for 2/3 of the game but they went full retard when they took the lead and stopped trying to keep possession. Argentina was not getting any looks at goal in that one either.
>>157039177-Spain dominated the first half, managing to shut down our passing lanes just as they had against the other teams-From the second half onwards, Argentina parked the bus and focused on closing down spaces-The stat showing 20 shots on goal is misleading; many were harmless attempts just trying to force a rebound or a goalkeeping error-The match turned into a massive, biblical-scale semen slurper-Spain started threatening more seriously towards the end, forcing Martínez to step up-Late in the second half, Enzo Fernández was sent off, and Argentina played with 10 men until the goal was scored in the extra time-Argentina was bad, slow and looked tired, Spain was clearly superior
>>157039177It was a rigged match in Spain's favourThe elites deemed Spain win and we lostThere are other reasons, but that's the biggest one
>the fireworks were albiceleste, fifa accidentally posted tweets about Messi with a world cup early, the president programmed a tweet talking about their victory and forgot to delete it, every single team that faced argentina complained about the referee, other coaches from other countries have also voiced how argentina has been cheating for a long time and didn't even deserve to go past Egypt, argentina has multiples times less fouls against them and multiples times more in favour than any other team in the whole cup and the country is is a bootlicker of burgerland, the host of the cup, and is literally selling itself to israhell, which celebrates the "victories" as their own>"the elites rigged it for spain to win!"I feel so bad for my latin american buds, not only they have to endure this people (if you can even call them that), they live next to them too.
>>157043674Oh and I almost forgot>days before the final the biggest sport journalist of the decade exposed how Fifa has been using Argentina for money laundry, Forbes already published how much of Messi's image lately is just being Fifa's princessHambrentina is a corrupt, violent team of losers, and the whole world knows now.
>>157039250This
>>157039177>Why didn't they try to score any goals?They wanted to go 0-0 so they could beat Spain at penalties.
>>157043827>>157043674Lmao, you have to be a real piece of shit to be a sore winner.
>>157043674>>157043827>muh rigged for ArgentinaMuslim copeSpain had an additional resting day.Argentina got a yellow card for nothingAlso we do not care what other South Americans think, that is more than clear lmao
>>157043899>be hambrentino >job badly despite cheating>be a massive sore loser and project your cheating onto others>get called out for it>can only defend yourself by calling them sore winners insteadFUCKING KEK
>>157039250did you have any other options really? i don't think nico paz and the ginger would outplay rodri ruiz and olmo
>>157039250Scaloni did nothing wrong. He just got outplayed by Spain. He knew that their best bet would be to drag the game to penalties, so he had to keep subbing in defenders. But then when he was out of subs, Spain decided to score and now they have an nonexistant offense to try and equalize with.
>>157040950Honest question: if these same teams (same players, same coaches) play each other 10 times, how many games can Argentina win?
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>>157042731underrated. England was dying before halftime in their match due to playing in 40C heat prior killing off Kane and Haaland. Argentinian uncs had sweaty, but otherwise cool games. heat was killer
>>157039177Argentines players were threatened. Same as the 90 final. Maradona told what happened before. Here the evidence is overwhelming
>>157047787>Argentines players were threatenedBased on the match it looks the other way around lmao
>>157040864Unironcally this the whole campaign was vibes
>>157042703>Belgium They are washed though
>>157045999Was there switzerland game just as hot but at least was being played at night?
>>157039177They memed their way through the knockouts. Every game they were incredibly close to go home and at last they did
Now that Messi is done maybe they'll let Dybala play.
>>157039561England is world famous for rigging games against themselves.England was the first "good" team Argentina faced and England played like a wet towel.
>>157039177Because Argentina realized that not only was Spain better than them in every way at football (like most teams they faced), they were better at gaming the system too. In the previous games Argentina took advantage of their opponents not being likeminded psychopaths and so relied on dubious calls to go in their favor But not only did Spain deny them their dubious opportunities, they also schooled them on how to create undeniable traps.You saw this vs. France, a much better behaved team than Argentina. Spain took the lead by Lamine pushing them into an absolutely genius penalty box foul. Even Mbappe was impressed by that play and gave Lamine props for it after that happened.Now, what happens when you put a great team with that foul punishing skill and put them up against a mediocre team that loves to commit fouls as the primary savior of their gameplay? You get a stat sheet that looks like this.
>>157050700It's genius when Spain does it but scummy riggitini when it's Argentina huh. What a cocksucker you are , chicano.
>>157050735It's genius when Spain does it because they know how to make it undeniable, unlike Argentina which rely on pissing and shitting themselves for referee favor. Even the most biased referee wouldn't have been able to ignore the traps Spain set for Argentina in the final.Besides, they only whipped these strats out for France (an actually good team) and Argentina (a cabal of psychopaths). Every other team was a clean game.
>>157050760A very convenient, short-sighted, stat-watching explanation. I don't even want to imagine the seethe you experienced during Argentina's path to the final.
>>157050782Sanjay, rather than imagining that you should probably focus on whether the remainder of your team of chimpanzees will make it past top 32 in the next WC after Messi is gone!
>>157039632>You simply can't understand how hard Spain can neutralize an opponent.true, in any other game spain's tactical fouls are a yellow and spain would need to stop doing them. world cup refs are too lenient.
>>157039177They don't have the midfielders to defend against tiki taka 2 and the third man system the fast paced way Spain does it. It's just too ingrained in the collective strategy, starting with Rodri.Ironically they started playing better after the 1-0 when they became increasingly desperate. They were breaking lines and intercepting more, instead of cucking in their side.
>>157050821>b-b-but your flagWhat a predictable little faggot you are. I don't give a shit about Argentina, just little shit tier benchwarmer analysis.
>>157050852arg didn't play their best. arg was exhausted. arg has better midfielders than uru. uru did more against esp.
>>157050974I don't buy the exhausted meme. You have to remember our team didn't start playing their best either, the performance against Cabo Verde was very underwhelming, lacking a lot in attack.De La Fuente kept changing the starters, benching underperformers and making adjustments as the tournament advanced instead of trusting that the problem would fix itself like Luis Enrique would have done.
>>157051056Me neither. Athletes themselves never blame fatigue, I don't get the fan/media obsession with blaming it unless the players are dealing with nagging injures. For professionals 3+ days of rest is enough.
>>157051073arg literally had to sub off their starting cbs due to injuries
>>157051073arg literally conceded when the player covering torres cramped up
>>157051147Ionically defense was the least of their problems in the final, most of Spain chances were nothingburgers. Their real problem was being completely unable to generate anything offensively.
>>157051073>Athletes themselves never blame fatigue, I don't get the fan/media obsession with blaming it unless the players are dealing with nagging injures.then listen to scaloni:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbN4MCXet94&t=124s
>>157051195arg lost two subs due to dealing with injuries. late subs are crucial in winning. esp scored goals with their subs.
>>157051201Yeah he "confirms" what I said about nagging injuries which is typical of post-game interviews in literally any sport. but he still doesn't excuse it and it still doesn't explain the 0 offense generated from the start.
>>157039454>9v11Sounds like an inside job.
>>157050427yes. Because of that, argies never truly played in the heat
>>157039177>So, why was it so bad?They're a terrible team, plus Spain went back to a strategy that they invented back in the 00s that relies on quick short passes and high possession, which is incredibly ugly and borging, but works really well on terrible teams in particular.
>>157039177Spain defense is S tier
>>157052800It's their midfield, not their defense (which is still solid enough, mind you).
>>157039250You don't have other option as in your boomers understand the game but physically they can not do it while your younger player can pressing but too inexperience and some of them are a notorious choker.