>>157371346
The NFL needs the Browns. Their story is well-known. Owner is a Steelers fan who wanted to buy a stake in Pittsburgh, league let him settle for the Browns. Was indicted for laundering money in his truck stop empire and continues to do that with his football team. Other owners don't care because they got their own shit going on.

The real menace is the Jets. They have no excuse for sucking.

>>157371346
>How are they this ass?
They are literally called "Browns".

>>157371346
There no relegation in NFL so owners can just tank their teams and still stay in the league to get the tv money

>>157375830
I do agree that at some point if a team is ass enough they need to go but relegation is european and gay

>>157375712
should just switch to the bulldogs

i do kind of feel bad for them.
this team is the epitome of institutional failure and weakminded losers. i think it would take a mahomes level talent coming in to fix them. every player that signs is only going for money and knows they suck so just phones it in, every draft pick with potential is mentally broken by the loser mentality locker room within a couple years unless they are insane. everyone who hears the name browns when theyre picked gets that sinking feeling in their stomach.

its even worse because they had a historic winning franchise in the ravens and then they just left and won more superbowls that should have belonged to cleverland.

honestly its never getting better, id just change team, stop caring, or troon out if i was from cleveland

>>157375830
Relegation would do fuck all to solve this problem. Cleveland already went three seasons without the NFL and they've been an even bigger joke since they've come back. The fantasy that narcissistic billionaires will be humbled into competence if their toy gets demoted to a lower level for a year is totally divorced from reality.
Ultimately, the Browns (and the Jets, for that matter) are what happens when a team fails over and over again to find even a passable NFL quarterback. Notice how the one year they did stumble into decent QB play with Baker is the year they won a playoff game. All relegation would do in this case is punish a team and fanbase for having the worst luck at the hardest position to fill in sports, much like how in post-Bosman soccer it only punishes teams for not being owned by the richest sheik or oil magnate. Yes, there's plenty of other shit they've screwed up, but a franchise QB papers over a ton of flaws and gives teams an enormous margin for error.

Could the browns beat Ohio State?

the nfl should cut 4 teams per division

>>157379695
The Browns would beat Ohio State by 6 touchdowns. That includes them just running the clock out the whole 4th quarter and not really trying to score.

>>157379801
brainlet, low vision response

>>157379695
Yes, easily

>>157384352
No, it's the correct answer to a retarded question. Even the worst team in the NFL is still a team full of grown men who were the standout players on their college teams. And even the best college team is still going to have non-NFL-caliber players on it.

>>157379695
Yes and it wouldn't be close. The line difference alone is massive.

>>157379725
So it should fold?

They need to exist to stop jets/cardinals fans from ending it all and realising it could be worse