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>The debate over promotion and relegation in Mexico has reached a point of no return. Liga MX, the country’s top men’s division, is currently operating without the mechanism, and the league’s decision-makers do not plan on bringing it back.

>Mexico first suspended pro/rel in 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic, as an extreme cost-saving measure. Since then, proponents for its elimination, including Mexico Football Federation (FMF) officials and the Liga MX’s wealthy owners, have quietly grown, while the voices of those who want to bring it back have intensified.
Would be the first time a pro/rel actually gets scrapped in favor of a franchise system in an established division system
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HOLY FUCKING BASED
also I don't care lol
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Kill everyone in charge of LigaMX and FEMEXFUT.
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>>157434744
Kill the team owners that support this too
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>>157434744
>>157434763
cool it with the antisemitism
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>>157434573
I stopped watching our league years ago. Ads in the middle of games, ads everywhere in the stadium, ads plastered everywhere on the jerseys, random cashgrab tournaments hosted in US, the most goyslop football league
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>>157434991
same i just watch the occasional botanero while getting drunk friday nights
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This is how they ruined our league too. They make changes that, they swear, are temporary and eventually make them the norm.
You have to give them some credit, it works every fucking time.
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>>157435067
Argie league does not atleast have abandoned pro/rel right?
I know why the MLS dont have it, its a fairly new sport competing against entranched sports.
But LMX has historical clubs, a long history of a league and football culture!
I dont get this, is the idea to close off the league as is and then turn all those clubs below into feeder clubs with no chance of reaching above that?
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>>157434573
Very based, pro/rel is for European dogs
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>>157435301
pro/rel isnt a european thing tho, saar
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>>157435271
So far this decade we already had three seasons with no relegations. Right now it's at 2 out of 30 participating teams, which get replaced by 2 promoted ones that come from our 36 team second tier. How did we go from 20 teams per tier into this? It's temporary, bro, they swear they'll fix it one day... heh...
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>>157435341
nice try
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>>157435522
Do i get this right? You have 2 divisions only? Arent there like 50 million people in your country, that number seems low? Is it due a geographic thing where there arent enough clubs, I thought Argie leagues had 4 divisions?
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>>157434991
>our league
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>>157435684
No, we have more. Here's the entire tree. In order to not bankrupt small clubs with traveling expenses, the bottom tiers are divided into regions. On the left, you have the clubs from Buenos Aires and its surroundings and, on the right, the rest of the country. Those 332 clubs you see on the right are divided into 8 regions and the tier below has over 100 amateur leagues.
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>franchise team
most soulless thing ever.
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>>157434991
>our league
kek
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Who cares? MLSoy and Liga Mexican't are both terrible.
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>>157434573
>LigaMuhEquis
>MLelSoy
Worthless garbage leagues for soi cuckstomers and antifa reddit larpers
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Another drumpf and bibi W
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Common Kushner W
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>>157435522
There's been so many changes to the Argentinian league system through the years I don't know how you people can even keep up. Do you even care?
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>>157434573
yes YES
The enshittification needs to ACCELERATE
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>>157434573
holy retarded
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>>157434573
If there is no promotion, what are the lower league teams even playing for?
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>>157435271
>I dont get this, is the idea to close off the league as is and then turn all those clubs below into feeder clubs with no chance of reaching above that?
Ironically, yes. The main issue is that LigaMX always had the franchise system, so fans basically never had a say in any of the decisions the higher-ups make, not even in elections, like in other leagues.
So this change was just made to protect the "inversions" they have made over the years at the expense of basically killing the minor divisions.
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>>157439408
Its impossible to do something because all the people in power are heavily supported by the club presidents themselves, the few that rebel get marginalized and hit with the most spiteful ref decisions of all time, and no one within those clubs wants things to change because everyone except the real hinchas is benefitted by the league being like this. Casuals dont care because they just watch Boca v River and the selección playing against shitters from parts of the Middle East and Africa you cant point at in a map.
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>>157434573
JUST
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>>157435067
It doesn't work through clever deception, it works because they have all the power and you have none.
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>>157462510
The real reason it works is because nobody actually cares. Pro/Rel is accepted, just like closed systems are accepted. Outside of autists it's low priority for almost all the jean wearing populace.
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Are there any big teams that got relegated just before covid and will now never be back at the top even though they should be?
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>>157434573
>Le Tecate Bimbos vs. Pemex Marinelas league
Lel
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>>157463580
Atlante but they recently paid a fee to get back in
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>>157434573
corruption and irrevocably enshitted is what (inevitably) happens when 2many billionaires get involved. May as well scrap it and start your own league - that might go ok, for a few decades.
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>>157464013
>they recently paid a fee to get back in
seems a sportingly legit process
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>>157434991
I absolutely hate how brown this board is
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this will turn mexico from regular ro16 exiters to regular group stage exiters
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>>157467551
So we're gonna be the new Germany?
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>>157467669
you need to be good before your decline for that
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>muh big and new stadium
I miss this level of SOVL
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>>157466594
Sports are for brown people, anon. Whiteys only play video games, browse tiktok or whatever is popular right now
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>>157461465
>inversions
don't you mean investments?
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>>157434573
>the cartels have spoken
Fuck mehiko
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>>157467862
Sovl my nig
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Everyone is dancing
In Meeee-xeee-co
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Dont allow this mexico, dont go to games, dont watch, start your own league. Money comes from viewership.
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Real talk: the average Liga MX fan, especially fans of the top teams (America, Chivas, Cruz Azul, Pumas) doesn't give a shit about pro/rel. Add to this the fact that very few people care about the Mexican lower leagues. That's why it was easy for Liga MX to remove pro/rel in the first place. Look at how fans in Europe protested the European Super League when it was announced. Compare that to the apathy of most Liga MX fans when this was announced. Yeah, there are plenty of people that complained about this decision on social media, but people still attended and watched Liga MX games this weekend.
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>>157468978
Nah, impossible. This >>157469026 anon is right, we are cattle and don't really give a fuck outside our main team, fuck everyone else. Nothing will change because no one will protest or demand a change for it.
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>>157463580
Not really. Maybe only Veracruz and Morelia, but even then those teams could buy back their way to LigaMX if they have enough money.
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>>157434573
>like infantino
>do this shit
>jew president
hm
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>>157468978
Mexican normies are peak cattle, that's never happening.
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>>157470513
Can confirm. Nothing will happen.
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>>157463580
Nah, nothing relevant. All the important teams are already playing. A lot of the relegated teams were either too new or too poor to have a proper competitive project.
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>>157467669
yes, the 4x WC winner Mexico is the new Germany

fucking retard
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>>157438116
>>157438150
Meanwhile this is you on a Saturday night
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>>157475080
god why are gringordo sawker fans such fucking homo faggots?



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