>3 world cups>never cucked to playing for european masters>hated by latin americans including brazilians who prefer argies over himWhy? he's the GOAT of all time both in the most meaningful trophy and in National Pride, always playing In Brazil, For Brazil, NEVER for gringos.A League Is A Nation's Pride, After All.
>>157590272>hated by latin americans including braziliansis he though
>>157590559>>never cucked to playing for european mastersDidn't He get cucked by his own country not letting him sign anywhere else
>>157590272If only he didn't do those Viagra commercials...
>>157590559yes, 4chanzilians hate him because he's black>>157590597that's based though, countries should cuck other countries by restricting their player movements
>>157590704>4chanzilians hate him because he's blackgot any links?
>>157590714https://archive.4plebs.org/sp/search/text/nigger/country/BR/https://desuarchive.org/int/search/text/nigger/country/BR/
>>157590272Why exactly do I need to think he's the GOAT?For me, the GOAT is Messi. Hell, the best player I ever say play footy is not even a man, is Bia Zaneratto for Palmeiras.Why can't u accept that some people think differently and there is nothing wrong that?
>>157595881>176cmIs she considered a giant in women's football?
>>157595911She's pretty big on the pitch yeah.But despite her size, she moves so elegantly and gives great passes.
>>157590272Cruyff was objectively better, don't care about the number of WCs. Cruyff and Maradona are the GOATS
>>157595928Looked up her highlights and she's basically female Rivaldo. Good player.
>>157590272>>157590559The ones who know history hate him. Pele came from poverty himself yet never said spoke out against the dictatorship and what they were doing to poor Brazilians. He was a disgrace and a coward.>The legendary player was photographed rubbing shoulders with the likes of dictators Emilio Garrastazu Medici and Ernesto Geisel, two of the most hardline generals to preside over a regime that killed or "disappeared" hundreds of people.>"He acted like a submissive black who accepts everything and fights nothing," fellow player Paulo Cezar Caju, his teammate on Brazil's storied 1970 World Cup-winning squad, once said.
the goat debate isnt about how good you were, its about your career, how much you won, scored, how much you dominated your peers etc. objectively pele is the goat>>157595931cruyff was a fucking meme desu. i wouldnt even say he was top 20. just a 'pretty' footballer, nice touches etc back when that was rare.
>>157590786+ mono, forgot that onebrazilians on 4chan HATE black people
>>157595881>messi is the goat because he won 1 world cup>AIEEE PELE'S 3 WORLD CUPS DON'T COUNT I DONT WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH BLACK PEOPLE
>>157590272He debuted with a pib
>>157602358Messi was the "goat" after that 91 goals season>b-butcope
>>157597285Coud play everywhere, drop into midfield, play behind the defense, move into either wing, elite reading of the game, elite acceleration, elite goalscorer, elite creator, elite balance and body acceleration. Won Ajax 3 CLs in a row and Barcelona the league immediately upon arriving. >nices touches were rare back thenCruyff's contemporaries: Pelé, George Best, Eusébio, Rivelino, Jairzinho, Rivera, Mazzola, Netzer, Beckenbauer.
>make a completely false statement>defend like a retardBaiting used be an art. Even that has be enshittified...>>157590272
yet another uncreative chikaner thread
>>157597158>In the 1990s,[4] Paulo César Lima was the subject of a documentary film by João Moreira Salles[5] The documentary depicts his flamboyance on and off the field during his days as a football player, and the difficult adjustments he had to make afterwards, outside of the limelight, and surviving on his income as a landlord.[4][6][7]>Income as a landlordOH NO NO NO! My hero of the proletariat can't be a landlord!
>>157602358>I DONT WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH BLACK PEOPLEI'm not racist. The problem with Pele is that no one really saw him play in his prime besides old people (boomers).For me, it's Messi. I saw him play, I saw how good he was. He's the Pele of my gen.
>>157616155the only thing missing in cruyff's legacy is a world cup winits hard to gauge just how he'd perceive in these lists if he had just one of those to his nameits very possible we'd see him as the number one guy in many more lists
>>157602358Pele barely played one of the world cups, Messi carried his team in all three finals he reached, literally two matches away from having three world cups as well, except as a main figure in all of them, etc.Pele was good, but he was also relatively lucky to also have a team to carry him when it was needed.
Pele was the original fifa boy before Cristiano Ronaldo
>>157617153Chikaner is a CR7 tranny
>>157641376Even in that "barely played one of the world cups", Pele scored a goal and hand an assist in the one game that he played, before getting injured in the second game.Pissi Cuckittini went an entire world cup campaign (2010) without registering a single goal or assist. And Pissi carried shit... Argies went to the two finals (2022 and 2026) only through rigging and nigging.Pele is, and always will be the GOAT.
>>157590272this is nuts
>>157590272>GOAT >statpads against chain smoking cab drivers
>>157590272His world cup wer as riggi as Messi's WC and Penaldo's Champion.Also, tied against some europeans second divisions team
why this thread still on
>>157590559most hues put garrincha over him
