There are clubs treated as "plastic" because of corporations' influence (Ex: Bayer 04, Wolfsburg, Red Bull Salzburg, Red Bull Leipzig, Hoffenheim, etc.). Is PSV seen as plastic too?
>>157641350wtf is an eidenhooven
i hate the netherladns cos of how they treat foreign laborersi fucking hate those subhuman rats
>>157641364most disgusting shit hole in western europefucking toothless underwater bike riding faggot hicks
>>157641350Yes.In terms of fans they are a distant 3rd here behind Ajax and Feyenoord. This frustrates them to no end and instils a sort of victim mentality in them despite being more successful than both this century in terms of trophies.Just any time there is some Feyenoord/Ajax news you find PSV fans in the comments moaning about them not getting enough attention, calimero's we call them.
>>157641350You got that all backwards. Teams with 100 years of history are never considered plastic. Only new teams that got good out of nowhere thanks to big money Newscastle United selling out to SaudiMan City selling out to to UAEChelsea selling out to BluecoReally the whole Premier League selling outOn your list that would only be Red Bull teams
>>157641390>let me tell you about your sportWhy are you americans like this?
>>157641350When I was growing up, my dad played for his company softball team which is a lot more cool than these guys I see how playing in the adult softball leagues for teams of randosThe two oldest and most prestigious pro teams in the US were both started as company teams So was West Ham United: Originally founded in 1895 as Thames Ironworks FC by the owner of a large shipbuilding ironworks on the River ThamesSo I've view old teams started as company teams as most prestigious as you can get are they are most coone t to blue collar and workers, two things that are big in sports
>>157641366bunch of fucking pale literal bumpkins bro, thinking they'r esuperior to people hat come there, just want to work make some cashyou fuckin disgusting me, hollandweak bitches
>>157641436same reasons yuropoors do the exact same thing on here daily
>>157641364It needs to get a whole lot worse apparently because you just keep coming
>>157641456keep coming in your fucking wife faggot
>>157641350Nah they were from that company before it was a club just like Bayern the plastic part comes from companies not even from the region taking over
>>157641456bike riding little bitchtoothless hick
>>157641451based croat scholar is back
>>157641453The average European mental institution would be a prestigious think tank in the US. You should be grateful for anything we grant you.
>>157641476Poor little Holland forever seething at the big powerful USA. What a life!
>>157641350No, they’re not seen as plastic in The Netherlands. The Dutch plastic is without a doubt Ajax
>>157641485Yeah, sure buddy
>>157641390All those clubs you listed are older than 100 years
>>157641493Ajax is a team that attracts bandwagon fans and bandwagon fans are plasticBut the team Ajax is the opposite of plastic. That would be like if Man United didn't sell out to the Americans. If Man U was English owned they would never be considered plastic, just their section of bandwagon fans jumping on the bandwagon Same as AjaxAlso I'm starting a charity to help the lack of schooling and education in the Netherlands so let's all get together and do something good to help our Dutch brethren
>>157641518I mean 100 years under the UAE100 years under the Saudi EtcHow dumb are you that you couldn't put that together on your own? Your brain is total garbage
>>157641476nice reading comprehension Mahmoud. Also,>we
>>157641350Does PSV still own them? I thought notBayer Leverkusen is seen as less shit than Wolfsburg, which is about the same degree of shittiness as Hoffenheim (or worse), which is less shit than the RB clubsLeverkusen is still shit. They were "okay" until Bayer noticed the possibilities in the mid-70sPSV seems very comparable to Leverkusen, though they started playing high up decades earlier. If Philips does not own PSV anymore, they are aight for all I care. You can still call them half-plastic for their history, but if they are just founders and sponsors instead of owners, they are acceptable. But I guess it also kind of depends on the sum Philips gives them
Pretty much the entirety of the J1 is just corporation backed clubs. In fact all of them started out as representing various big Japanese companies.
>>157641535>Club stops being plastic if it's owned by a plastic foreign owner for 100 yearsMate what the fuck are you even saying
Let's be real, almost everyone is plastic now. Some clubs were founded by companies, others were bought later. Clubs like Bayer Leverkusen were not a problem in 1904 when Bayer established a recreational sports club for their factory workers - it only became a problem like 70 years later when Bayer decided to turn that club into a professional asset. Likewise, Manchester City is not soulful because they were founded "authentically" if they got bought by the UAE laterIf Philips still owns PSV and/or gives them a lot of money in a way that makes the club look dependent, the club is plastic. But plastic is the normOnly a few clubs with member-ownership can claim to be genuinely better. But these clubs usually are not as successful, though there are a few exceptions
>>157641451default croat job in netherlands is stealing cars
They are considered plastics but not because of Philips. PSV is seen as an inoffensive club to support, they don't have the big rivalries Ajax and Feyenoord have but they have the same trophy cabinet. Them winning the league is never a big thing like when Feyenoord wins it nor does it cause as much asshurt as when Ajax does.
>>157641451>>157641364I'm not gonna disagree, foreign workers get crushed here while government is only busy pampering refugees. I wouldn't come here to work unless you get paid shitloads of money for it.
>>157641474Is it really him? He was based but I assumed he had been medicated or locked up.>>157641437If a team is owned by a company’s workers, that’s based. If the team is owned by a company’s owners, that’s cringe.
>>157641364>>157641366>>157641451What did you expect? They discovered capitalism before the UK was even created
>>157641353>>157641364>>157641366>>157641451>>157641464>>157641472Are you okay?
>>157641350yeah its disgustinghowever, its still far better then being a fake and gay club that only got there because your local football organisation heavily favoured your club for decades
>>157641451Pa sta misliš da vama taksisti gastarbajteri iz nepala imaju dobre životne uslovi?t. Rodjen u holandiji, mene u toku poslu sve super
>>157641364dutch are natzies if you ask me
>>157644879Your last sentence intrigued me. Why do people seethe when Ajax win the Eredivisie?
>>157648817nah they're jews
>>157641451Ok which one of you touched his peepee, and then which one of you touched his girlfriend with your peepee? Hands up!
Van Bommel really got the jews seething
>>157646165Holland sucks for emigrating toDeutschland is still the king In Deutschland it's hard to get an apartment, but in Holland it's impossible. You're basically an indentured servant if you go there as a laborer.
>>157650488Just bad vibes man. Holland is much better experienced as an American tourist, not a Balkan immigrant
>>157650500That said, I'd still like to visit Spinoza's grave and also his house where you can see his shop. But it's not like a bucket list thing the way old Trafford is. It's just a if I'm in the area type of thing
>>157650488Plus in Holland no one plays pick up basketball they're too autistic as a host culture to allow that. In that sense, Deutschland is very American
>>157650511I'm just not a small country nigga u know? I get claustrophobic. If I'm gonna emigrate it's gotta be Deutschland and the openness of the Autobahn Holland is probably great for kayaking, but I'm sure you can kayak in Deutschland too
>>157650488And yeah, to answer your question Montenegro, I believe overall Nepalese people In Croatia have it better in some ways than we do in Holland as workers. Croatia sucks but it's pretty free and not so dense and autistic, though the money and labor laws are atrocious. I'm sure the Nepalese get abused as far as payment of wages here they even fail to pay actual croatians. Place is a shit hole
>>157650521I just hold Europe on the whole in very low esteem. Place is a shit hole continent
>>157650529If I get some luck and can return home, my goal is to live in Ohio. Pray for me bros. If I'm forced to stay here, things won't well for anyone.
>>157646165Bro was your dad the Pusher? Remember That movie? The fat serb junkie that was preparing sarma and attending na meetings Hahaha so funny You're all fucking criminals you Balkan dinarid niggers. I don't like you. I just wanna go home
>>157641350Nah, they are legit and i'm saying this as Ajax fan
>>157649530People naturally seethe at the most successful club
>>157641350psv boeit niet
>>157650607So, looking at the last few seasons and probably the future as well, no one seethes at Ajax. Got it
>the Croatian schizo is still alivewoah
>>157651811Nah they still do. Ajax is in it's ManU era
Feyenoord are the only authentic club in holland
>>157652031LolLmao
>>157650575Haha I cannot complain tebra my parents paid for my house after I finished university here and have a great job. Doesn’t even matter that much what my parents did for (honest) work
>>157652849Yeah I got no help in life. Everything I have to do myself from scratch.
>>157641736He's not wrong as people forgot that about Roman's Chelsea, only the BlueCo purchase has reset their plastic status
>>157641364Who is worse, Dutch or Danes? I get similar vibes from them; tiny nations with huge egos.
>>157650506>a place where grown men kick a ball is higher on your bucket list than seeing the home of one of the greatest thinkers of all timeI know we're on spee but c'mon man!
>>157652891Unlucky mate what can I say. I hope I can one day give my kids what I have got
>>157653169I'm not done yet Montenegro. I ain't hear no bell. I'm going hard at all of you comfortable-lifers.
>>157652994Idk man that shit is in the Hague? That scares me I don't know if you can just walk around there
>>157650535>Some of you guys are alright, don't go to the nudist cycling meet up tomorrow.
>>157641350Reminder that without a doubt the most plastic team with a huge corporation behind is Real Madrid. A fact.
>>157653243>The Hague>that flagDo you get flashbacks to when your father and uncles were on trial there or something?
>>157655762No I just think the Hague is like some kind of sterile central district like in hunger games where regular people aren't allowed to walk around
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>>157649530Ajax is literally everyone's #2 rival if not #1. You're not considered a fan of a club if you don't hate them (unless you're an Ajax fan). It's a hilarious display of inferiority complex but something like Ajax losing the league on the final day to a late FC Groningen goal is considered the #1 highlight of the Eredivisie in years
>>157650488We dont need you here. Please stay away and good luck with your dreams and wishes.
>PSV looking like shit against Zelensky FCGood goal by Dest. Ricuckdo Peepee is, as always, a disappointment and fraud.
>>157652031>FeyenoordNot even the most authentic club of Rotterdam lmao
>>157641731same for baseball in japanmany teams even have the company name incorporated into the team name
>>157668803Anyone playing for PSV for 2 seasons without being sold can be considered a fraud.
