Epic Hellbows from Arman!
dogshit thread
IGBVMN.
hello? hellooooo?
Totally unrelated, but every judge was a dumbass ugly Asian fish head
panchoa heem'd islam van raped panchoaVan > Panchoa > Islam
Pantoja kwabRuffy kwabRaple KWAB
Okay but why not do this for brazzoids too?
>>157818714this will still work for brazzas, especially when fighting in the desert (why does Volk keep agreeing to this?)
APOLOGIZE
>>157818758shades of aaron pico
Van is my favorite champ currently and one of my favorite champs ever.
>>157818749i would let him fuck my white wife and sisters
50-45 judge got it right.
>>157818762salty tomato was one of the judgesbeit
You now remember Mauricio Ruffy
>>157818779come on man
If those 3 judges had been the ones scoring UFC 330 Ian Garry would be Welterweight champ right now.
I apologise Vanbeasts i wasnt aware of your boys skill.
Jon's boyfriend got fucking SLEPT lmao
>>157818766Ian Garry beat IslamMVP beat Ian Garry
>>157818766cleary had the only reasonable one, rest is corruption on paper
>>157818779>white>flagoh nononono
>>157818758we all knew he was just mentally ill let's not kill him brazza
>>157818788Who?
>>157818782it's absolutely OVER for cope controldo damage or sub or get the fuck outta hea
Hokit finner get steamrolled by gane. If blaydes can land all those punches dude has zero chance against Gane throwing bombs with that giant frame
I am boying Ron Mccarthy. You know it's going to be a properly judged fight when he's on deck.
DAVE FROM THE TOP ROPE
>>157818769He's the Great Asian Hope.
>>157818790Dagestanis are allowed to crotchsniff with no damage. Only non-brazzas get punished for doing it
>>157818782Islambros I dont feel so good...
Pantoja is a chin merchant with shit defense in a punchlet weight class. Flyweight is still shit overall. Kape vs Van will be a good match.
>>157818790No a brazza would have won on the cards tonight
>>157818782Correct, finally judges that understand the scoring criteria
>>157818766brazzas don't spend half a round walking on to punches
>>157818805counterpoint: it goes like merab vs omalley
>>157818808he just doesn't miss
>>157818808>NJPW shill loves vanhonurable asian
>>157818808It was 48-47. They were trying to rig it for Van but he won anyway.
>America is great because of opportunities and champions>We the people>crypto.com
>>157818820Kape probably wins desu vans hittable and kape is packing roid nukes
>>157818782I would've rated it at least 4-1 but I'm not angry
>cries about an accidental head clash and tries to get a point deduction >lays and prays for round 4he honestly didnt deserve the win
>>157818820So he's basically the 125 Holloway?
im not mad about lay and pray not being scored but i am mad that this will be a one time thing
>oh man I think it's 2-2 going into the final round!Every single time with these mfsSometimes a guy is getting railed and it's either 4-0 or 3-1, why not just say it
if you don't boy joshua van kill ya self
>>157818788>Goes to train wrestling in australia >lol>With a guy way smaller and lighter than himRuffy is stupid, he deserves to be KO'd
What the fuck is this guy's problem?
>>157818831Hokit won't be able to take gane down i love hokits retarded ass but this is a massive step up in competition he has no paths to victory against the big niggas of heavyweight like pavlo gane and volkov
>>157818790Sal D'Amato also scored that one thoughbeit and he gave it 49-46 to jizzlam
>>157818855Almost like it's rigged
Van finna heem some black pussy tonight
>>157818858Pantoja 1, 4. Van 2, 3, 5.
>>157818867doesn't need to be rigged, van beat the fuck out of him
>>157818709Man, Arman's face was FUCKED UP already. Ruffy was definetly going to win that fight if not for that one mistake. Worst part is knowing he's a nightmare matchup for Goythje and would definetly heem him.Ruffy has all the skills but is sadly a fucking brainlet.
>>157818861arrogant richboi, iz normel
>>15781887950-45 is clearly rigged
>>157818855It's been happening mire frequently. I can't remember who it was but some guy a month back lay and prayed for 3 rounds and lost. It was awesome.
>>157818884Shades of Garry/Islam
Quick question for the yank ladsWith wresting being so common in the USA high schools as part of the curriculum do you have to just accept if you get in a bar brawl etc do you have to just accept your opponent could pick you up and slam you on your head?
>>157818862Hokit has wrestling pedigree. I dont see why he cant put Gane on his ass.
What's the real deal with this?
Hokdaddy will fight for the beltArmeng will fight for the beltTOTAL AVRA LOSS
>>157818855I think we're seeing control time not getting scored if you don't gnp or attempt submissions more recently.
>>157818874Honest round 1 was competitive, you could give it to van too. California judges did
>>157818861Based
was round 5 a 10-8 in your eyes?
>>157818864also gave lil ank a 49-46 against poopatan for hogging him against the cage last year how come this retard is always involved in controversial cards
Dont care, we're a volleyball nation anyway.
>>157818874>Pantoja 1No. He was outclassed in the striking and the grappling doesn't earn him any points because he didn't do shit with it.
>>157818903such as? this will not be applied equally either way
>>157818898>Gable has wrestling pedigree. I dont see why he cant put Sharafdaddy on his ass.
>>157818895>watch U.S street fights it happens all the time. Seen some brutal slams too.... Wrestlers are tough, we have known this since the folkstyle days, they used to do subs too
>>157818888Its the wrestler death year. If you fuck around and lay on someone the judges aren't scoring it for you. Vans 50 ear slaps did more damage than 4 minutes of kwabtojas lay and pray
>>157818898
>>157818915Didn't you get smoked by Italy in the last Olympics?
>>157818914>tf>tphave you never met italians before
>>157818888The right guy won so who cares
VanGaneYanSimple as
Van vs Kape at the Tokyo Dome, February/MarchAsakura vs another #30-20 kinda guy to absolutely obliterateTaira vs AlmabayevHoriguchi vs Royvaltoken big retard heavyweight fightsell 8 gajillion tickets
Asians don’t boy jungle gooks, this is a win for Mexico again.>>157818841It’s Kape’s best matchup and he’s the only actual hitter in the weight class.>>157818849Smalloway is a cutbaby and a grapplet as well. I agree with the sentiment.
>kape>horiguchi>kavanagh>almabayev>moreno>temirovLINE THEM UP
>>157818898Hokit didn't know what to do when he took fucking Derrick Lewis down.
DC was probably so happy seeing Jones’ project get folded like that
Arman title shot when
>>157818862i have low confidence in gane's wrestling, i'm sure hokit will take him down at least twice, we'll see
>>157818899Paulo is a cardiolet, he cant do 5 rounds. He wont risk it, he wants an easier 3 rounds to get title fight
>>157818932>Its the wrestler death yearif you arent a dagi maybe
>>157818709I hate that Van is basically a cholo nigga in Asian form but I can't hate his fighting style. I just don't know why I can't like him. Maybe I'm a hatin unc. I'd root for him over any muslim or black tho
>>157818932Is that how Islam vs Machado went?>>157818937Keep propping up sports betting riggery
>>157818939Hey, can you stop impersonating me?
guys I'm scared about the Kape fight. Kape has the best KO power since Figgy and he's just as good of, if not a better, counter striker than Van. he's maybe even faster. and he's got really good footwork on the insidehe's probably Van's worst matchup in the whole division cuz he's Van but stronger
Kai Asakura would heem Van
Very good high level fight. It seems like no matter who it is flyweight is just excellent. I think it's fair to say that Flyweight has fully ecplised BantamweightThe real hero of the fight was Van's guard. I thought from the Taira fight that he was just a butterfly hook merchant, but he made excellent use of a seated guard and overhook manipulation, and he was very conscious of his position at all times. Pantoja had to work a lot to get positions he got effortlessly against just about everyone else
>>157818935he means footvolley
Arman is emptying his balls into this right now
>>157818943What race is he anyways?
>>157818940poofc would never do anything this cool m8
>>157818709>didn't touch gloves>complained about an accidental clash of heads>looked to the ref multiple timesPantoja was seething the whole fight.
>>157818970>I think it's fair to say that Flyweight has fully ecplised Bantamweightfuck no
Okay /heem/is Van the GOAT NOW????Where does he ranks now?he didn't got dominated in the grappling and out punched Pantoja and even out graplled him in some ocasionsBetter cardio for 5 rounds toowell /heem/xisters?
>>157818895Knew a guy from high school who used to get into a lot of bar fights for fun and always would shoot double legs. He won pretty much every fight then one time he did it and the dude's friend punted him in the head. He's okay all things considered but he's definitely got brain damage and doesn't pick fights anymore.
>oh my GOODness.........
Outstriking 2 to 1 and having 2min30 of control now loses you rounds in >currentyear
>>157818971>didn't even make it to round 16 in the WC this year?
>>157818961>a cholo nigga in Asian formkek he's based, he had to act that way where he grew up or the blacks would bully him, can't blame him for it
>>157818968Kape gets sloppy tho, I can see Van catching him with a counter
>>157818963Islam landed the only meaningful strike of the fight on the feet too
>>157818973want to see her sucking cock?
>>157818946he was literally toying with him
>>157818980I want to punch her tits.
>>157818911I think I would have scored it 10-9, but I don't have a problem with the 10-8.
>>157818975he can be whatever you want him to be. that's the true magic of van.
>>157818973arent they both married?
>>157818963Machado froze like a retard in round 1 and did nothing and he kept letting islam judo throw him like a ragdoll in championship rounds.
>>157818943>>kapeHeems Van>>horiguchiVan prob wins but his style would be hard to deal with>>kavanaghVan would get late KO after losing the 1st round>>almabayevVan wins this one>>morenoHe's not a contender>>temirovHard to tell how good he is but he has great pace, grappling, powerThe Japanese dude fighting in the road to ufc final unironically is the best chance
>>157818984Look we all know the scorecards were rigged but there's nothing to be done about it
Rate this UFC For me it was a 6/10
>>157818980Pantoja was the 2nd best 125er of all time, but a win over an old version of him doesn't automatically give Van his legacy value. He needs to rack up several more title defences before we start ranking him above Pantoja or DJ
thanks for sharing this fine heem night with me lads, was a pleasure
van becomes FW goat if he beats kape and that central asian>guru coping cause van didn't take a pic with his beanieLMAO
>>157818970His legs are short and strong and it made it difficult to get under him most of the time
>>157819013Bad prelims pretty good main card. Like 7/10, 9/10 by 2026 standards
>>1578190138/10, Main card was fun
>>157818968As we saw with horiguchi the sheer power coming out of kapes hands is enough to ONE PUUUUUUUUUNCHHHHHHHHHH you out of existence and van, while having great boxing, is surprisingly hittable to the dome
>>157818911Nah, maybe if the knockdown was at the end of the round and the pummeling got cut off by the bell, not showing if Pantoja would have been able to recover I'd have it scored a 10-8. But no
>>157818990he's got a crazy chin>>157818943>Kapeworst matchup and should be favored IMHO>Horiguchitough matchup but Van should win if he stays on the gas>KavanghVan favored, Van huge fav past r2>AlmabayevVan's to lose>MorenoVan's to lose>TemirovVan favored but he has to be careful about not banging too hard
>>157819016>old version of himold pantoja is prime pantoja you fuckin goof, he didn't go on a tear until he was oldfought exactly the same tonight as he always does
>>157819016>or DJVan will literally never in his existence eclipse Mighty Meme, you zoomjeets are psychotic
>>157819025>9/10 by 2026 standardsso many wasted nights this year... but at least I can finally go to sleep feeling satisfied this weekend
>>157818963Machado wasn't beating the shit out of Islam in the stand upIronically the most damage he did was in that round where Islam was holding him against the cage and he just kept slapping him
>>157818984See>>157818874
>>157818983KWAB
Gaethje just needs to retire on top.
>>157819013I'll give it a solid 9. No wmma. Underdog heems. Elbow heem fun main event.
>>157818936i did go to rome in 2018 and even got to watch a footy game at the stadio olimpico very nice ppl
>>157818933Someone adds the spanish bull fighting hat and towel thing im too sleepy
>>157819006have you never coveted another mengs aoife b it's very exciting
>>1578190139/10 for this year8/10 overall
>>157818970It's not past BW but it is better than FW
>>157819034What about his daddy, Charles Johnson?
>>157819047Just rating main card not prelims*
>>157819038if he keeps winning he absolutely will
>>157819046I really dont see Justin beating Max or Arman. Topuria might win rematch too with a better gameplan.Justin should walk away on top
>>157819011Temirov has roid nukes in his legs and hands. Very bad matchup for van. Did you see erceg get genuinely launched from center ring by that first kick from temirov thats real power
remember when people were saying the ufc was against arman when clearly he has been pushed harder than gayble sneedesons penis into an unwilling participant
>>157818922He was outclassed in the striking in round 1, by what? Striking him twice as much as he got struck?
I could see DJ fucking Van up a lot with the muay thai clinch. It was very effective for Pantoja, Knees and Elbows up close are literally DJ's bread and butter
>>157818984Holding people down for minutes at a time is counted against your significant strike total.
>>157819062well the issue with Van is anyone has a chance to KO him because he'll firefight with anyone. but I think he would be favored to beat CJ
>>157818741your threads are even worse.
>>157818983>>157819045Who is the wife and who is the husband here? Jon seems like he's the wife. He receives the menging from Loophole, I assume. But maybe after seeing Loophole get heemed the power dynamic has shifted and Jon gets to be the one inspecting bamhole now. Tawlf to say b
>>157819068>penisit was a broomstick lad gable is a weird faggot
>>157819048cool you visited the stadium that would be sick, i agree they are wonderful and a pleasure to be around, but frightfully corrupt though it's like a sport or art for them
>>157819065I think he'd fuck Max up in a rematch but yeah Arman will dry hump him to decision. Ilia rematch could go either way.
>Arman hitting Nina's clitty with an elbow in the clinch
>>157819071Pantoja is fucking huge for 125, DJ's clinch wouldn't be nearly as devastating with how tiny he is
>>157819062umm van said he was partyhing that fight camp and wasn't himself
>>157819073Except if you're a muzzie or an american
>>157818900brownoids are such sore losers.
>>157819067yeah but erceg is a bit of a chinny lanklet so we need to see him fight an elite guy
>>157819086isn't he married
>>157819045FAGGOTSGAY FUCKING ZESTY FAGGOT HOMOSLOOK AT THESE FUCKING FAGGOTS
>>157818984yeah, round 1 was clearly pantoja's, should've been a drawl imo
>>157819081Jon is definitely the top.
>>157819081what is wrong with you
>>157818970Flyweight is consistently the worst weight class in the UFC. In any other division, Pantoja would get knocked out. Taira wasn’t a good contender. For years it was Figgy, Moreno and no one else. Royval and Kai were also mid
>>157819086nice reach could jab heem
>>157819068UFC doesn't hate arman, they just had him doghouse for a while because he pulled out of Islam fight last minute. We all know it was the weight cut but he keeps lying with the back injury excuse
>>157819069Van landed cleaner strikes. Pantoja was just doing his usual spastic spam where things just graze or land on the arms, shoulders, partially blocked, etc.
arman's woife is fine with him having sex with nina drama and so is nina's husband
>>157818980Van is leon tier aka everyone doubted him (rightfully), everyone will ride his cock for his next defense or two and the moment he loses he'll be forgotten aboutHe's just very uninteresting and just kinda exists. Honestly everyone under LW is like that to me, and LW is starting to become like that too
>sport is damage based scoring>out damage opponant and have round scored for you>crotchsniffer retards; "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"Same retards that would score a soccer game for a team that held the ball for longer despite losing 0-10
>>157818961Chiggas are funny The UFC needs more people like Van
>>157819086do you think arman cums inside or on her tits
Pantoja should have stuck to kicks
>>157819045Jon seems like a good coach. he really cares for his guy
>>157819089Nina missed her true calling making joi face porn, she'd make way more money than whatever the UFC is paying her
>>157819091What if I don't believe him?
royval is heeming van in the rematch
>>157819086i have video of her with penis in her mouth
>>157819103too much screen time
Imagine if they did the fusion dance and became Vantoja
Feels so good to be Muslim
>>157819107>We all know it was the weight cutThe reason poofc were so pissed is because he injured his back 2 weeks before but didn't pull out until the night before
>>157819119This. Pantoja was getting pieces up in boxing range. Should have pulled back more and spammed kicks until van slows down. Then mix in takedowns
>>157819124then you're wrong kid - dana white
>>157818969Didn't Van just beat that gooks ass last fight?
So what's next for him now that Hokdaddy swiped his rematch? Volkov? Tai Tuivasa?
>>157819136>Alhamdulillah I shall serve the state of Israel by signing up for the American military
Van is still clueless on the ground
I really thought Bo Nickal quitting to RDR was the biggest humiliation that US wrestling has seen. This was so fucking bad, I know he’s not a great guy but still
>>157818709>Van says he's having a post-fight prayer night with familyLove this dude so much.
The Arman Nina Drama relationship is weird. He went and hugged her after the win. Doesnt he have a wife? He hugged Nina in celebration but not his wife?
canadians are so fucking stupid
>>157819038DJ came up during the shittiest era of the division and was fighting actual plumbers and deliverymen None of his wins aged well either especially not cejudo or benavidez and his only proper competition was cruz violating him
>>157819150kek sneako won
>>157818935Sorry sweetie, but nobody cares about this Zionist corporate cash grab.
>>157819153Cejudo getting carried and slammed by Merab is also up there
>>157819137justin gaycheese said it was weight cut too. Thats the backstage rumor. Someother fighter said it too forget who.
Arman paid ruffy to dive and still almost lost kwab
>>1578190138.5
>>157819146He fought Taira, the japanese grappling guide, Asakura is the RIzin former champion striking guy that Pantoja subbed early in Asakura's first ufc fight
>>157819152Clueless?, he defended pretty well against Pantoja that is pretty good on the foor.
>>157819168>U19KWAB
honestly brazilians are crybabies when they're losing. they're getting carried by being entertaining fighters
>>157819152he managed to get up pretty quickly but i think pantoja's grappling game relies on back takes when van shut down, more gnp and better footwork in the striking and pantoja would have won, his entire gameplan seemed to be charging forwards throwing heavy punches, going for knees in the clinch, and shooting takedowns and hoping the back would be exposed, which only happened once at the end of r2
>>157819165This argument would work if it wasn't for the fact that Horiguchi is still an elite FLW all these years after DJ beat him
judges don't respect dawlg. significant strikes aren't significant if a nigga just walks through them. only gay niggas sit there and try to run from strikes.
>>157819174Jk lol
it was a lucky elbow
>>157819150trump won move on
>>157819065Garth heems Max out stiff. Look how bad Max did vs the guy gayche just slimed out.
>>157819179>when van shut downwhich* van shut downvan's grappling is decent, pantoja failed to maximize damage
>>157819159Nina has a husband too
>>157819181Holy truke
Armong has punched fans, head butted Hooker, tried to jump Bobby Green on a hotel, throws old dudes like Faber down a platform, and drops out of a fight within a day of the event. Anyone acting like he’s a victim is a retard.
pantoja's mistake is that he banked on van trying to get up by turning over and exposing his back like everyone else does. he should have let some ground n pound go to force van to scramble. it was simply a matter of tactical mistake by the better fighter in pantoja.
Arman is such a cringy faggot. All these fuckers from the Caucus are complete douche bags, regardless of religion.
If I had to guess, Temirov and Kape are probably the best to beat Van because he has issues coping with power. Kape probably less so because he has really activity issues and Van throws a lot. Horiguchi was really styling on him until that random knockout
>>157819190that max buzzer beater gaychee KO will haunt justin gaychee forever
>>157819190>MMA math in 2026Styles make fights b, Max beat Gaethje by using superior movement and never brawling until the last 10 seconds. Ilia met Gaethje in the pocket and paid for it
disGaybled Steveson
>>157819180>The Ghost of Rizin, Annhiliator of Nkazimulo Zulu, Bane of Ben Nguyen
>>157818801The man who stabbed the fighting nerds in the back
>>157819181they flyweights meng, no power. So they gotta look at other stuff
C H I L L S
>>157819181this doo allergic to ground and pound
>>157819173Oh. I can never tell japanese fighters apart, they all suck.
>>157819159>Arman Nina Drama drama
>>157819209He won every second of the Kape fight before the finish
>>157819199yes, alongside this his striking was basically just "charge at him and hope he gets hit", severe lack of footwork, once van picked up on this he started countering him with big combos whenever pantoja did this
Wtf how Is seraf 600k in debt?
>>157819199A bjj expert should have more ways to get to the back than waiting for the opponent to expose the back, in my opinion of course.
>>157818749In each other's DMs
>>157819228allah gave it to him
>>157819085>cool you visited the stadium it was nice, probably the 2nd biggest stadium i've ever been inalso you're right but at least that corruption gave us characters like Furio or Vito Scaletta salty is just a faggot
>>157819199van gave his back several times and still got out
arman already has his speech prepared why he should get next title shot. Making some good points desu. fuck it im convinced, arman should be next
>>157819199>he should have let some ground n pound go to force van to scrambleThe scramble was the thing Van wanted the entire time. The instant Pandora tries to posture up, Van would be moving for a get up, every time. The every second on the ground was Pantoja fighting Van's hooks and Van fighting to restore his guard once Pantoja passed it, Pantoja was never really in a position to truly win a scramble until the last minute of the 4th, where Van just conceded to keep his back on the fence and let the round go
>>157819230I look forward to SEA counties economies developing so more of their women can get thick, instead of them all being malnourished womanlets
Fantasizing about a man fucking a woman is kinda weird.
>>157819229Thats all pantoja does though. He uses his size and weight bully tactics to press forward and then get people down so he can get them panicking and they give up the back. Van just answered the question of well what if I dont give the back up and pantoja had no answer. Pantojas 4th round was shameful he did nothing but sit there
pantoja crying about the headbutt he dove in on wasn’t a good look, too emotional
pantoja lost cause he started to cry when when van kept getting back up and didn't get heemd by his blitzes
>>157819229bjj is flawed in this regard, you can only sub people when they make a tactical error, it's hard to brute force a win with bjj against somebody with good defense, while with striking you can just kick their arms until they break, and with wrestling you can just take people down repeatedly until they get tired like merab, bjj leads to stalemates
>>157819199Pantoja has never been good at ground n pound. His threat on the ground is his submissions and he advances position with pure grappling usually. In fact he loses positions when he tries punching sometimes.
>>157819227that's just the way he always fights. pantoja is highly skilled, even in striking, it just appears raw because of his hands down style and walk through fire approach. you can see how he slightly slips and the angles of the punches when he does throw. he's a highly skilled but primal fighter.
>vans lead leg turned to jello halfway through the 3rd>stop kicking it entirely and just headhunt a difficult to heem jungle monkey dawlg
>>157819181erm sweetheart panocha got dropped on his bussy in r5
>>157819245People here think that cuckhold jokes are peak comedy
Aaron "Highly Skilled But Primal Fighter" Pico
>>1578192454chan is kinda weird>>157819258he is skilled, but van simply outskilled him, countered his blitzes with pull counters leading into combos
>>157819249Uncs really be seething when a young bull puts a beating on them
>>157819229Thats the problem with Brazilian jujitsu. It doesn't work without its specific rules. Go read the gracie history, they would cheat to create favorable rules to use their bjj. BJJ sucks at taking people down too. Most of the good techniques from BJJ are taken from Judo. The gracies just added meme shit.
>>157819228pokemon cards
>Pico vs Keitaone for us Luke Thomas intellectual types
>>157819237van gave his back one proper time at the end of a round and pantoja ran out of time.
Apologize right now
>>157819272I always get a chuckle when I hear about that Japanese Judoka who broke Helio Gracie's arm and they were so cucked by BJC that they named the Kimura submission after him
>>157819247This is literally the only correct take in this thread lolThe same thing happened with Taira, Taira would work his way to mount and then go "Oh shit, this guy isn't going away" and Van would retake guard. Eventually Van ended up using his butterfly hooks to force a get up, which led to Taira doing everything he could just to maintain position as the fight went on.
>>157819224Just how good are the 3 other bums aside from asakura that beat kape in rizin and just how good is patchy mix and whatever other bums the jap lost against if that's the only argument for DJ being top 5 of all time
>>157819282Sneed moment!
>>157819248It was bitchmade of someone who kept hyping himself up as this badass doo
Van going for the Scarf Hold + Armlock was epic
>>157819282whats the appeal of dick to a straight guy?
>>157819272bjj is fundamentally a scrub killer art, it becomes less effective the better your opponent is at it, which sounds obvious but if you compare this to an elite boxer in the ufc, put them against somebody else with elite boxing and they'll still win with boxing skillsput the best bjj guys against good grapplers and they fail to submit peopleeven khabib said it, you have to make people tired with wrestling and ground and pound before you can submit them, it's just too easy to defend if you know the techniques
>>157819247nigga pantoja ate figgy's shots. pantoja isn't even jacked like most of the other guys in the division. have you seen josh van's body? that's extremely jacked for an asian.
>>157819290Schaub is the next MMA Guru
>>157819292Judo is very underrated. Anyone that doubts Judo should watch olympic highlights. They slap those subs on so fast that I can guarantee you a BJJ would get tapped fast.
Tuivasa would heem Chama
I need to see how Chael Sonnen tries to spin this 12 second heem after the way he was shilling the fuck out of Gable
i just hope Jon is ok
Undisputed.
>>157819179>more gnpNot possible against Van, his get-up system is entirely built on denying back takes by avoiding the turtle forcing the other guy to posture up to go for gnp, then interrupt that by scrambling and geting up from there.
>>157819290That's exactly why they gave him an 0-2 fighter.
>>157819245They do this with literally every sportGo on an NFL thread and eventually you'll find an anon going>imagine all the pussy he got in college!I wanna slap these motherfuckers so bad
>>157819301girls with tiny mengs make your meng feel yuge
>>157819290>Schaub actually understands mma>is qualified to talk about it>Keeps trying to be a grifter and expert in other stuffHe should just stay in his lane
>>157818972those eyes... his brain forcibly being shut down in brutal, clean fashion.. where have i seen this before..
>>157819307The advantage Judo, Wrestling and Sambo have over BJJ is that they all train their athletes to be aggressive and athletic. The culture of BJJ is all about focusing on technique over athleticism and they encourage pussy shit like butt scooting and guard pulling
I wonder if trying to force half guard would work against Van? Would would he just start bucking out of it, because his core body strength seems really insane
>>157819149I think he loses to Volkov and Pavlovitch, Tom as well, if he comes back. But i think he would beat Hokit.Poatan has no future at heavyweight because he doesn't have the range and power advantage that his strategy relies on.
>>157819326joseph and his dreamcoat put an end to that
pantoja won
I swear someone mentioned that forrest griffin ran away like Forrest Gump after a fight but I can find the comment
From the beauty herself
>>157819337Pootan has literally zero chance against Pavlobitch
>>157819302Its starting to get to the point where people are realizing that BJJ is not as good as what people sold it as.You could learn better sub application with Sambo, Judo and folkstyle wrestling (the original wrestling used subs)
when the lil nephew trynna show you a bug he found
>>157819301It's unironically caused by porn brain rot. Dudes nowadays grow up watching thousands of hours of porn videos involving another dude's dick and they get hard/wank to it. It's pavlovian conditioning that resulted in the current femboy/trans obsession
it was a good day for Vanfans and Tsarbros, but a bad day for Choichads
let's assume I concede and say that van won. people are still really trying to act like it was a dominant victory? this was an extremely close fight. literally run it back material. this isn't settled.
>>157819346he did that after his rematch with tito in his retirement fight
>>157819360I have liked femboy queens since i first saw them thoughever
>>157819245Cuckoldry is the most common mutt fetish
I feel bad for Armans wife and kids
>>157819365Nah, it's over. Pantoja is 37
>>157819365Van gaped that faggot twice now KEK
>>157819302thats why elite jujitsu competitions are all roid monkeys that just brute force subs.It gets to the point at a certain level where they cancel each other out and no subs happen. UFC grappling level is pretty high, even for the mid tier guys. Getting subbed is rare these days. To catch someone you're better off hurting them first.
>>157818709Fuck Dana
>>157819301>straight
>>157819365Panocha will have to beat Taira first
Who's next for Sharafdaddy?
>>157819304i only know of this bitch cause of u cucksuckin spammers. schaub has no digital footprint anywhere except these threads
>>157819365nigga…
pantoja is an extremely based fighter. he fights like someone disrespected his granny on the school bus.
>>157819352>Its starting to get to the point where people are realizing that BJJ is not as good as what people sold it as.It's been effective in western MMA because there are too many rules that serve the exclusive purpose of nerfing wrestlers. No grounded knees, stomps and kicks means you cant just get on top and stomp the guy on bottom to death, who does this favor? BJJ guys. If even with those rules BJJ starts coming up short then its just a fake martial art.
>>157819290Schaub is retarded with all his NOT READY takes.. He's gonna say "whadd I tell ya bubba? Dana tried to rush Gable and I told you this would happen..." Gable literally fought the lowest UNRANKED fighter they could find and still got heemed. The opposite of le rushing. He said the same thing about Frank Mir's daughter. "Whadd I tell ya bubba they tried to rush her to the top b!". She wanted to join the UFC years ago and they made her wait. A contender series fight is the opposite of rushing someone to the top.
Realistically, the only part of BJJ you need to learn in modern MMA is submission defence, unless you want to be the kind of fighter who chases submissions offensively. Many fighters have become UFC champs while only being blue/purple belts because they also had a background in another grappling art like wrestling or sambo
>>157819395>Panochalmao
>>157819405This Sakuraba already proved its faker than WWE
>>157819410>learn sub defense>learn how to get upIf you get good at that, no wrestler or grappler is doing shit to you. Then you just fuck them up on the feet. Strickland literally has this mastered.
>>157819381same age as me and I'm feeling great. you wouldn't understand. because you're not built like that.
I genuinely can't believe you faggots are coping about this fight, Van won every round bar maybe R1 on damage. It's shouldn't be this difficult.
Is arman or ilia more deserving of the title shot?
bjjlets fear the powerbomb
>>157819404if someone disrespected your granny you'd lay on him for 5 minutes?
>>157818922he wasn't hurt by the striking so that doesn't count either.... see how stupid you sound gastelum
>>157819419Sakuraba used folk style wrestling and submission to absolutely thrash brazilian jujitsu. Josh barnett is another good example of folk wrestling. Im surprised more guys don't train it.
>>157819358That's giving me the heemy geebies
>>157819419Sakuraba was uniquely suited to counter BJJ though because he had a background in the pretty niche combat sport of Catch Wrestling, which is a form of Wrestling that includes submissions
>>157819425yeh for every thing pantoja landed feasibly clean van landed 2-3 even cleaner ones
>>157819433if one man can hold you down, 2 men can rape you
>>157819421It requires nerves of steel though. Strickland vs Chimaev r1 is just Chimaev getting the body triangle and Sean chilling knowing that all he has to do is sit there and fight the hands while Chimaev tires himself out. Sounds very easy to do but I imagine its not easy to stay calm in that situation.
>>157819429ilja got battered like a mouthy mistress but only time and social media engagement will tell
>>157818973should be you instead huh anon
>>157819438Catch wrestling is the same as folk style. Its the original form of wrestling.Freestlyle is point shit. Same thing with point karate. They are good but bastardized versions. The original forms are superior.
>>157819429Ilia. We dont need another boring ass wrestlefuck "champion".
who we picking for cantender this week?
>>157819442well maybe pantoja should have brought his boyfriend in the cage with him then
>>157819445sean strickland is used to having men violently attack him from behind if you know what im saying
>>157819452Folk style is what is taught in the American school system, but that doesn't include submissions. Catch Wrestling involves submissions
>>157819181funny thing is they're gonna use him to sink the actual prospects and leave just bums for van to fight and they'll call van the greatest ever to do it, Pantoja honestly beats all these up and coming guys by simply out dogging them like he did with van
>>157819454he heemed when wrestlefuck didnt work tho. I actually rather see Arman vs Ilia for #1 while garth relaxes
>>157819457This doo really named Norbert kek
>>157819434I never said anyone was hurt by something. Strawman or algo.
>>157819445Good comparing the shit in Strickland vs Chimaev to Van vs Pantoja feels really silly "Just let Chimaev gas himself out lmao" vs complex back and forth between a great top player and a well developed guard
Pantoja won because I said so. It's really just that simple.
Poor Gay bull..
>>157819472I agree with that. They have bad blood anyway. But I think Arman is too big for Topuria.
>>157819472They're not gonna do Ilia vs Arman for an eliminator. Arman has more than earned his shot and Ilia is in discussions for an immediate rematch. If the UFC was smart, they'd do Arman vs Gaethje and Ilia vs Paddy as an eliminator
There's only one Maori that can stop Van but when the world needed him most he vanished
>>157819457Why are they just throwing random single digit record undefeated guys who only fought guys with more losses than wins against each other a lot latelyThis is starting to look a lot like boxing, are daner this desperate for THE prospect
>>157819485what is going on here is that jon
Niggas was saying he'd beat Gane not 24 hours ago
>>157819466Original folk style had subs. Catch wrestling was promo name for events. The folk style name stuck around tho, so freestyle still uses it even tho they have there meme point system. Also folk wrestling is from UK.... No idea why you guys suck at it now....
pantoja took it easy on the lil fella me thinks
If Arman is Batman...who is the Joker?
>>157819496How else do they find talent though? 'Bib had a padded record too lol
>>157819437when the cops come around tell them the joint is closed so let the good times roll let the good times roll dont care whether youre young or old i say let the good times roll
>>157819485what the hell is this
>>157819509TICK TOCK JOSHUA VAN
>>157819482I'm not really comparing though I understand it's very different. Also Van has an entirely different defense and get up system, most guys will either do what I described or do the turtle -> tripod get up method, but Van will just lay flat on his back to deny back takes, wait for the other guy to posture up for ground and pound and from there will go for either a crossface or elevate his hips to get up from there. It's no wonder that nobody really knows what to do about it, Pantoja is used to exploiting fighters using the turtle->tripod method seeing it as basically a free back take. He didnt know what to do. Similar to Taira.
I still think Clitia heems Armeng
>>157819509
OHHHHHGAETHJE DROPPED HIM WITH THAT UPPERCUTARMAN IS HURT BADTHAT WAS A DESPERATION TAKEDOWNGAETHJE HAS COMPLETE CONTROL OF HIM HEREHE SHOULD KNEE HIM LIKE HE DID TOPURIAOH HE'S GOING FOR ITOHHHH ARMAN'S DONE HIS CORNER WAVES IT OFFAND STILL
i didn't know arman's clinch game was that good
>>157819496>>157819510Nevermind, Just checked Khabib's early fights and a lot of the guys turned out to be good
wait Arman changed his nickname to Batman?... fucking BATMAN?
>>157819522Ilia "wrestlefucked for over half a round by bryce mitchell" Topuria
>>157819498>>157819516Jon brought Gable to Dirty Boxing event and someone filmed them being gay
>Jon lost>Jon got heemedDecent night
Let's not forget Ruffy lost to fucking BSD. Arman would lose to Paddy.
that was basically an elden ring boss fight for van if you really think about it
Khabib's 29-0 record is fake because like 3 of his fights outside the UFC were 2 rounders, which don't count as professional MMA bouts under the unified rules. In reality, hes 26-0
>>157819522Realistically, the strength difference would probably be too much for Ilia and he can't really keep the fight at boxing range. The clinch would end up favoring Arman too
>>157819535Gamrot
>>157819534his venum shorts were custom batman shorts too. Look at waist line, its batmans belt and shorts design looks like batman on front
>>157819546>>157819522ilia belongs at 145
>>157819535>reversed shartles and crucifixed himbryce got some country boy strength that doesnt make sense
>>157819510They're throwing potential stars to the wolves way too early, stat padding is unironically good if they make sure to gradually ramp up things, not many fighters handle jumps in adversity wellThe biggest issue is that the average mma watcher has the attention span of a goldfish so the moment the undefeated potential golden boy loses they turn coat on him completely unless he goes on to have a 6 wins streak like islamgable will become irrelevant unless he brutally murders his next opponent within 20 seconds
>Never attempt to win by force what can be won by deception-Ganeiavelli
>>157819534Fans started calling him the Armenian Batman because he's a rich kid who beats up poorfags for fun. It's a bit cringe, but definitely better than whatever the fuck his last nickname was
>>157819541van would've been heemed if that was true. all souls games make it so you die in a few hits at most
>>157819559Paddy is a good example of a fraud prawlspect actually becoming good. Daner learned his lesson after pushing Till too fast
Tonight's main event is basically how Tony (pre knee injury) would have beat Khabib.
>>157819559Sean Sharaf wasnt even really a step up. He might actually be shit. I actually like contender series because it can weed out at least some of the fraudulent regional champs and stat padders
>>157818961watch Gran Torino. then you'll understand
Remember when Nina used to be trying to make herself Strickland's woman? That went out the window fast once she realised Arman's family has Russian oligarch money
>>157819575I still feel like paddy is kind of a meme fighter
>>157819559I forgot the most important part. If people jump boat you cant sell the guys fights anymore duh. Khabib cherrypicking fights was smart and correct. Islams KO came from a guy with 15 more fights than him at a higher level coming from a guy who was also debuting
>>157819584I still remember Guru hyping up George Hardwick as this monster that was gonna cause problems in the UFC, then he got fraud checked on DWCS by some random Arab guy
>>157819559>They're throwing potential stars to the wolves way too earlyDude Sean Sharaf lost to fucking Junior Tafa. They put Gable in there with a warm body and he was heemed stiff by the first proper connection
Paddy has a chance against Oliveira. Charles has the fortune of beating guys with average BJJ during his title reign. Paddy has a chin and good ground work. BSD seems to be regressing as an athlete, which is a shame. Quillian looks good. Lightweight might actually be decent.
>>157819597>coming from a guy who was also debutingFrom a win against* a guy
>>157819591Paddy rose up at the right time when the lw division became washed
>>157819591Paddy would be a meme fighter if it wasn't for the fact he had a competitive fight with the current champ. In reality, beating Chandler doesn't mean anything and BSD is a retard who shot himself into a Guillotine
Gaetje will have a good gameplan for arman. Arman wont be able to control him on the cage or ground so he will have to beat Justin on the feet
gayjee just needs to load his gloves and itll be easy
The Gable hate is so forced. Don't act like y'all care about women.
ilias moving down and justins moving up because they're both afraid of Arman
>>157819110nah Van's got the most fun boxing style in flw history. he will have a celebrated career
>>157819632Nah, the only thing forced was Gable's meng into her pussy
>>157818961majority of SEA asians grew up in the hood and were surrounded by blacks and mexicans. they had to adapt
>>157819588He just sounds dumb because of the cholo nigga dialect. I want to like him but I can't even though I respect him. Kape on the other hand is more likeable due to his goofy background and shit he says
>>157819608Bsd was just solved by paddy. Every single fight bsd shoots sloppy takedowns and if he gets guillied he does the gator roll out of it. Paddy sinking the way he did neutralized the roll and thus bsds entire game crumbled. Bsd has to now figure out how to shoot real takedowns and I dont think he has the requisite skill or smarts to do that. Everyone fighting bsd now will know you just do the paddy on him for a cheap win
>>157819632I hate all UFC projects by default
Accumulating EXP is important in combat sports. For some reason MMA fans don’t understand this and mistakenly mock boxing for building up talent. That’s why you see decent boxers go 20-0. Fighters need reps to sharpen their game.
Paddy looks worse than he really is because his boxing is so bad, but his kicks and ground game are very legit. He actually took a round from Garth by avoiding the pocket and just kicking him as much as possible.
Kek what is this?
Raple failed in the NFLHe failed in WWENow he failed in UFCWe know this nigga isn’t going mcdonalds What’s left except for the rope
>>157819638Ilia should honestly move back down, he looked tiny in there against both Charles and Gaethje. Yeah, he's skilled enough that he can still beat or be competitive with top LWs, but he doesn't belong in that weight class. Him saying he couldn't make 145 was literally just a lie because he wanted to go up to fight Islam so badly
>>157819674Now he can just practice bottoming for jones
>>157819659>career ended up a canFedor fought a dozen Sean Sharafs in his career and that shit never happened nor does he get any credit for it
>>157819674>What’s leftraping
>>157819632You really find it hard to believe that people dislike a rapist?
>>157819266you owe Piconons an apology for shitposting about him every single day for like 2 years straight
>>157819643He roiped her with a broomstick out of sadistic faggotry, not heterosexual lust
Kape will miss weight for his title fight
>>157819537jesus christ come to think of it why did jon allow gapeld to fight on the POOfc? he more than anyone else should've known that steveson could not fight
>>157819666i thought bonus was for the most chaotic fight that was just a quick heem. Van vs Pantoja should've got it
My opinions- Tai Tuivasa should be cut- Gable Steveson can still be good, he's a heavyweight with the hardest punchers and lowest win rates, thats why no heavyweight has ever even defended the belt more than 3 times despite being the oldest division- Arman shouldve got a title fight a long time ago- Van was always better than Pantoja
>>157819674Time to get his eye heemed out of the socket in Powerslap
>>157819699He got a special snowflake bonus. The real POTNs went to the lassie and to Arman.
Loophole should fight Tai
>>157819701>Gable Steveson can still be goodgetting slimed by a jobber isn't a good look. he prob has to go down,
>>157819506I was hoping somebody caught this. Cat reflexes fr
>>157819694He hasn't missed weight in a while and he has been locked in recently. I'm scared for Van because he got zeemed by Charles Johnson and Kape is also a blacksplosive fighter on angolan super serum
>>157819656Paddy is good enough to finish BSD on the ground. Benoit can bully most guys because most lightweights don’t have good ground games. He has decent trips though which is weird he dives head first into being potentially guillotined. Benoit’s pressure works well but he looks super slow now compared to before. He can still beat guys like Gamrot though.>>157819682Fedor’s win streak is easily the most overly glazed thing I’ve seen in MMA. He gets a shit load of credit for it.
>>157819565Alkhahalets or whatever is what they call people from the city he's from. Armenian version of Londoner
MMA lost when Gable lost. He had potential to be the biggest heel in the sport thanks to the Jones storyline. Now Heavyweight is back to being a bunch of LHW rejects and blobs
Armdaddy to Nina whore right now while her husband records from the cuck chair
>>157819764please don't post raped bitches in the thread
>>157819686Yes because nobody on heem cared this much about McGregor raping that woman
I can’t believe Evloev and Arnold Allen ducked Pico. These guys are afraid of that chinlet lol
>>157819735he should be cut from the UFC and sent back to fight pass until he has 10 fights under his belt. But that won't happen. Maybe they will just keep feeding him random regional cans
>>157819775that's actually her?
Who you got for Gane vs Hokit?
>>157819764He was desperately trying to be a face though
>>157819775do all winners on the card get this or just finishes
>>157819764Nah he's even more of a must see fyder now because now we know he can be flatlined by some random can
>>157819775doesnt really look like Nina. Shit AI
I fight exactly like Van but about 10% better
>>157819790Its AI.
Paddy, O’Malley, and Bo are successful projects. Perhaps the best one was Alex Pereira.
>>157819783Canor dickriders are cultists
>>157819775I think arman is hairier than that
>>157819775Hey there! I see you've posted a gif containing explicit content. Whoops! Just a friendly reminder that /sp/ is a blue board and such content is against the rules. I'm sure you didn't mean to cause disruption, but you can go ahead and remove this now. Thanks
>>157819791Hokit is actually the perfect counter to gane
Conor didn’t rape that woman. He was in fact raped by that woman instead
>>157819791on paper gane fucks him up horribly but you know if hokit just accepts his ass beating while swinging for the fences it's no different from gane vs tai and could end in a crazy drop and tko
>>157819752>He gets a shit load of credit for it.I'm talking about cans like Kerry Schall and Egidius Valivijus who had similar records to Sharaf. Fedor gets credit for his ranked wins and undefeated streak.
>>157819764He was never going to be heel he wants to be liked and seen as the good guy just like Jon
>>157819800it's literally real that's my penis
If Nina had real sex videos out then it wouldve been commented on tons of times by everyone.
>Pitbull is 5’6Ain’t no way that nigga is like 5’3
>>157819764Very disappointing to be being directly trained and coached by one of the goats of the sport, and be an olympic gold medalist and be knocked out like this.
>>157819360>that resulted in the current femboy/trans obsession that's just larping like how wymmin suddendly got obsessed with fags in the 2010s. they’re not into actual gay guys fucking. its the same reason dudes will jack off to two chicks clam wrestling or grasso's ass but will be grossed out by irl lesbians.
You now remember Deron Winn, DC’s protege.
>>157819791hokit by brutal slime out ground and pound
fellas would it be weird to ask a girl you're about to fuck who's got some big ass titties if she can lactate? asking for a friend
Daner confirmed that he doesn't dislike aspinall and that he lmaos with the boys when anyone signs to hearn
>>157819791Wouldn't be surprised if Hokit almost fails to touch him. Gane within 3.
>>157819877Yeah girls can't just lactate on demand. It has to be induced
>>157818961Dude's a born again Christian, though. He literally thanked Jesus after the fight.
was that the same arm that pantoja got hurt last fight? van is a real ass nigga for going for that
>>157819632Most of the American prospects and contenders are really unlikeable for some reason
>>157819888Ik but figured some might still be able to. Can you work on inducing if if you have a gf who isn't pregnant?
would you get zeemd for 160k? I'm probably pathetic enough to do it
>>157819791Gane by tko
let's see how arman handles the dober puzzle before we get ahead of ourselves
>>157819911Like Sean Sharaf?
>>157819931>Free Palestine
>>157819791Gane!
>Main event loser and former UFC Flyweight champion Alexandre Pantoja received the evening’s biggest disclosed purse, collecting a flat $650,000 despite falling short in his attempt to reclaim the title. Reigning 125-pound champion Joshua Van, who successfully defended his belt for the second time, earned a flat $500,000.>Patricio Pitbull and Marlon Vera were the next-highest earners at $400,000 apiece after both scored impressive victories.>Arman Tsarukyan and Tai Tuivasa each collected $350,000. Tsarukyan violently knocked out Mauricio Ruffy in the co-main event (watch highlights), while Tuivasa dropped a split decision to Robelis Despaigne and is now tied for the longest losing streak in UFC history.>Sharaf’s disclosed purse was only $60,000, but his historic upset also earned him a $100,000 “Performance of the Night” bonus.Sharaf also got the mobland bonus 50k so 210k total for that heem
Gane gets paid in rare jewels and forbidden ancient texts
Full payouts for UFC 331
>>157819950Sharaf didn't get a POTN bonus. He got the Mobland $50k plus a $50k Uncle Dana bonus. So $160k total.
>rocked by a sloppy spinning wheel kick in a heavyweight fight for a regional promotion >rocked in his ufc debut against one of two guys that were specifically allowed to skip contender series so gable could have a "veteran" for his ufc debutwhy was he a +2400 favorite actually?
DC is winning the long game against Jones. Jon will always be remembered as a gay pedophile ducker and DC will be remembered as the good natured, moral man
>>157819963Aren't these based on disclosed purses only? Do we know if they're actually super accurate? >>157819969It's 100k now no?
>>157819969source?
>O-oh NO He's gonna p-punch meeee! >Closes eyes kwab
>>157819977California Athletic Commission requires them to disclose it so it's rare that we see the payoutshttps://www.mmamania.com/ufc-payouts-and-salaries/473728/ufc-331-salaries-purses-payouts-pantoja-steveson-tsarukyan
>>157819990right but I wonder if there is a difference between total contracted compensation and disclosed purses
>>157819980https://youtu.be/Ug0LwBUI2l4?si=r2K7aLobJZhik37H&t=82
>>157819981this nigga has simply not trained long enough if he's still doing that shit
The 50-45 judge got bitched out hahahahaha
>>157819981>if i close my eyes really hard MAYBE he wont punch me nigga was throwing a sieg heil while getting heemed top kek
Gable doesnt really fight like Jones to be his protege. Wheres the oblique kicks. Wheres the always keeping one arm extended to eye poke/post on their head whenever theyre trying to close in on you and going back? Wheres the takedown attempts?
>>157818762you have a tiny white penis cracker shrimp dickhonky faggot pig faced worthless cracker loserBBC Cucked you in you America/Europe LOL Never forget tom "Vasectomy" aspinall quit due to his 2-inch wiener not measuring up to BBC SIZE-CharlieKirk
coach of the year
Van says he tore his shoulder in the lead up to UFC 331.He is unsure when he will comeback until he makes sure everything is okay.
>>157820025so kape has to fight before then
>>157818762RAPED muchacho
>>157820018all that stuff works because jon is a lanky slenderman. gable is the opposite so he has to fight like prime derrick lewis
>>157820018Did jon even train him? From what I see all jon did was partying with russians and arabs
>>157820018Gable was throwing oblique kicks in his first UFC fight.>>157820031Exactly. He's not built to fight like Jon.
>>157819918You need an Olympic gold medal to even have that privilege
actually its probably dc who should be training gable
>>157820015what sort of grown man not only needs time to "calm down" over the results of a sporting event but also tells someone their judgements are "wrong"? incredibly childish behavior. andy foster is a fool
>>157820047after tonight hes a certified fat raped bitch so maybe youre right. Jon should come back and kick his ass too
>>157820018You think Jon would really raise a protege?
>>157820004why would there be a difference?
>>157820015Should've been 49-45 tbqh
>>157820067I recall discrepancies between total compensation and disclosed pay in the UFC class action discovery
even if pantoja did 50 Van did 55
Gable is a heartlet he's 1000% not built for full contact
>>157820090
>>157819981Alright now that the got this out of the way, Jon can really let Gable in on the GOAT secrets of mma. Now that he knows Gable can never surpass him now, no matter what because he's been slept, now Jon can teach him the true darkes of arts of fighting.
