>20.09>season effectively overLMAO
>>157832943So the era of the individual superstar and "power of friendship vibes" is truly over then? Does this mean Real will have to become a team with an actual "project" and a style of play and a system? I still believe this man was on his way to figuring things out at Real. Xabi putting a leash on Vinicius and him inevitably driving Vini out of the club if he had stayed seems like it would've been the right decision.
>>157833254halal can't begin its healing process to return to glory until florentino quits, is forced to quit, or dieshe has to go, simple as
>>157833254xabi got raped 2-5, he doesn't have anything to say
Meanwhile Barca got a 24 goal difference in 7 matches jfc
>Josep "Pep" Guardiola is no longer around to give them free wins in CL ties in the knockouts eitherGrim.
Madrid has been shit for a few years, it memed its way to a couple UCLs which makes it look like they were a super strong team on paper but it was heavily on the backs of big mistakes by their opponents.
Barcelona will collapse once Raphinha or Rodri get inevitably injured
>>157832943why did you pick poland for your vpn senor?
Already two losesIts over
anyone could have told you Mourinho was washed
>>157833844Xabi had a decent start with some poor results here and there, but no manager could ever change the way Real Madrid is as a club within a couple of months. He needed more time and more control over the players. Real Madrid has a serious cultural problem where the managers are just there to pamper the players. There is no system or style of play. Ironically, Mou's first stint did have a system, and it had actual mega super stars that were actually that talented who submitted to it. That 2011-2012 La Liga campaign was pure domination from start to finish. I haven't seen them ever dominate the league since that season. That is the kind of identity, style of play, system, project, whatever you want to call it that is needed in modern day football to compete.>>157833821>>157835161I think it has to do with Flo forcing managers to play certain players. You think Mou doesn't know that Vini is dogshit? Of course he does. He has to play players that are either not compatible with each other or just do not work well together. If you play 4-2-4, with Tchou and Valverde as a double pivot, you've already lost before the match has started against any decent team. You will get raped in the midfield.
>>157834483yes it's crazy how lucky they are, their opponents always get brainfart
>>157836340>I think it has to do with Flo forcing managers to play certain players. You think Mou doesn't know that Vini is dogshit?dementino is not interested in winning, he's only interested in marketingvinicius is still somehow a globally famous and beloved star who makes him money via merch sales, sponsorships, tv, etc
that WAS a clear red on that gook against valverde
>>157833254>So the era of the individual superstar and "power of friendship vibes" is truly over then?It only works when there's a reliable good white core, Real had that with Modric, Kroos, Carvajal, and others. Filling the team with black "superstars" is asking for problems.
>>157833254You just want it to be true because he’s handsome and you want to post stupid Chad meme The truth is Xabi himself can’t play his 343 which requires an extremely specific set of playersHe did it once with a bunch of penalties and scoring at 90+7 in 10 different games, it was beautiful but it won’t happen again
>>157832943At least they can focus on Champions League now...surely they can win that...right???
>>157833254Real only won those UCLs in the 2010s because they had assassins like Sergio Ramos, Pepe, and Casemiro on the pitch and because the refs constantly helped them out.
>>157840628Culer cope
>>157841182Not even a Barca fan but everyone knows Real cheated. Non-Spanish clubs like Bayern were often the worst victims of their cheating.
>>157836855THE VANQUISHER OF VALVERDE
>>157836932I am a Xabisexual, I'm not gonna deny this. However, you can replace Xabi with any "project" manager. All managers coming into Real are expected to incorporate whatever new hot signing Perez wants. Even if that means that manager can't implement the way they want to play. This is why their managers are all expected to just pamper the players and hope for the best. In the past, I feel like you could get away with this, but it's getting increasingly harder to do so now, also because their star players nowadays are just not as good as those star players of the past at Real.When you have Cristiano, Benzema, Bale, Modric, Kroos, Ramos etc., you can probably win things with minimal tactics, because they are just that good, but these guys today are not on that level, not even close.
>>157835161Mbashit is the one who is washedVIHnicius is dead and that guy is a double
>>157847756their current squad would work if only they had someone with brains in the midfieldbut they decided to let fcb have rodri so
VOLUMES
>>157847993Lel and last season they were the team that the least out of ALL clubs in Europes top 5 leagueshttps://www.espn.com/soccer/insider/story/_/id/44785398/speed-ranking-which-european-teams-cover-most-ground-fastest
>>157847993>fill team with pacey ngubus>they don't runtoo funny
>>157847917>but they decided to let fcb have rodri soReal didn't let Rodri go to Barca, Rodri himself snubbed Real in favor of Barca. Anything else is cope. And it makes sense why looking at the current situation both clubs are in and have been in for the past couple of seasons. Barca, despite all their financial issues, on the pitch, they're far more structured, disciplined, and the club's entire "philosophy" compliments the way Rodri approaches the game. It's why he thrived under Pep. Rodri would be competing with Busquets at prime Barca.I also do not believe that 1 signing would've made Real competitive again. The team has multiple issues that cannot be solved by just signing a new player. The primary issue from what I've seen is that certain players HAVE to play that just can't play together. Whatever manager comes in has to play all of those undroppable players and somehow make it work. Guler has to play, because he's just too talented and too good already to sit on the bench. He's the high IQ player of the team. He's the creator and the facilitator. Without him, you can just notice the football is just not in the team anymore. But he can't really play that well on the wing because he doesn't have the pace and the athleticism. He's best utilized as the 10 in the middle, but the problem here is that Bellingham MUST play there, because if you drop him too deep, his dad is gonna cry again and throw a fit. Valverde and Tchouameni always get dominated in a double pivot, these guys "controlling" the midfield is suicide. Vini and Mbappe occupy the same spaces too much (pic related).I think a lot of Real players are overrated, but I don't think they're bad. I actually think that individually, these players are quite good. I think a lot of other clubs will be looking at this Real team to pick up certain players that simply must be sold in order for the club to progress. The big prize that clubs want to be picking up is Guler. Vini too.
>>157832943Season just started. Leagues are either win or lost in September.ITT Culerdos that mistakenly think is over
>>157848297Mou has discrecionality over players. Your rant is just seething.
>>157833254>Xabi putting a leash on Vinicius and him inevitably driving Vini out of the club if he had stayed seems like it would've been the right decision.why do people keep pushing this? Vini is literally the one that made real go that far in champions league, he is not at all the reason this team is shit
>>157848535>Mou has discrecionality over players.HAHAHAHA>>157848571I didn't explain myself well enough. Vini is annoying and an asshole, and he needs to be disciplined from time to time, but his talent is undeniable. He can pretty much walk into any team in the world. We've seen what he can do before Mbappe came and at the recent world cup. I think if he was at Arsenal right now, he would be tearing it up over there. The issue is that one of Mbappe or Vinicius has to be sold, because they're incompatible. It's not working. And in the eyes of the powers that be, it would have to be Vini, it can't be Mbappe. The saddest thing about that is that Vini is a far bigger club legend, a far more important player, but Mbappe is the more marketable one, the more well known one, the one that can score 50+ goals a season. Force Perez to sell one of them, and it would be Vini. I'm not talking about Vini's lack of talent, I'm talking about his incompatibility in the team after Mbappe's arrival.
>>157848708You just repit topics from el tinglado. Of course Vinicius and Mbappe can play together. This is coming that none of them defend and that is a lie. What is concerning now is the reduction of intensity at minuto 50,60,70. I don’t know why but all the goals are conceded on that period. If Mou can fix this the team will go winning
>>157848978Repit = RepeatJesus
>>157848571>Vini is literally the one that made real go that far in champions leagueYou mean Kroos, Case, Ramos and Modric right, acting as if Vini himself by himself carried Real to multiple CL wins is disingenious at best. Since those left we see him, Fede and Bellingham for what they are, spoiled brats with no sense of responsibility.
If Mou still doesn't bench Vini there's no hope left
>>157848990It was of course team effort, but Vinicius was instrumental in it. There is a group than wants to do Madrid what Cerezo did to patético and they leak and create controversies all the time to alienate fans. You must be aware that current bad narrative is not normal then decide if you go with the paid for antiflo campaign or support the team regardless
>>157832943RM barely cares about La Liga anymore, they start trying in March in the UCL knockouts. You can be sure they'll bullshit their way into the semifinals at least
>>157847993truly embarassing.
>>157848978>el tingladoI don't know what this is. I'm not a Real fan, I don't follow any Real fan channels or opinions. I only see what I see on the pitch. After Mbappe came, I don't see any chemistry between him and Vini on the pitch. Since Mbappe came, I have never seen Vini and Mbappe complimenting each other the same way Vinicius and Benzema did. Vini and Mbappe have a very low number of assists to each other. I simply do not believe they're compatible at all. I believe if one of them gets dropped and Espi starts, the team will automatically improve massively in the attack.
>>157848978Both barely track that, fuck outta here with "that is a lie", cucurella was left alone multiple times in a 2 on one bcuz Vini or Mbappe were still walking other side of pitch First big match this season and they show yet again a disasterclass
>>157849190Yes you are not a Madrid fan and still listen to ill intentions. I disagree that they are not able to play together and despite I like Espi a lot, that discourse that Mouriño must seat Vinicius is one looking to create controversies. Lot of chances are created, unfortunately not all converted.
>>157849156So why are they crying so hard?
>>157849570it's their policy to act like victims whenever they get 50% refball instead of 100% refball so next time they get compensation
>>157849280That’s why Mouriño was brought to. There has been good periods of nice fútbol and periods of disconnection on 50 or 60 minutes. You only see the problems and not the good parts.
>>157847993If hard work mattered why didn't the donkey own the farm?
>>157849570Refball. Negreira is a campaign independent of playing good or bad, winning or losing, home or away, Spanish league is one of the most corrupt of the world, even worst of Italy or turkey. Madrid is in a quest to denounce unfair referring, but is independent of performances
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>>157849707
>>1578498003+ years looking and not a single shred of evidence of max fixing has been found :)
>>157849570Madrid playing bad doesn't change the fact that we got robbed as usual
>>157850181It's funny how "getting robbed as usual" is only a thing since Madrid started playing like shit and showing massive signs of institutional decadence. Before that, when Madrid was playing well and winning trophies, everything was nice and dandy and refereeing was nice and fair. Curious, that.
>be a shit team>lose because you can't into football>WAAAAAAAAAAH NEGREIRAAAAAAAit's fucking unreal how you manage to be such gigantic crybabies all day, every day, for fucking years on endgrow up holy shit
>>157850140Evidence is there, was presented in the court, was presented to UEFA. Was presented to RFEF. You just prefer to ignore it. https://sites.google.com/view/docucasonegreira/p%C3%A1gina-principal
It’s time to admit that Mbacteria only has speed and defines worse than Enric Gallego
>>157850221That is not true. Madrid has been consistently denouncing bad refereeing during 4 seasons. Look for the videos of Real Madrid tv
>>157850248Again, performance has nothing to do with being robbed by a massive corrupt side like the Farçalona. Acuse others of crying while using corruption to give you wins is hypocritical max.
>>157850258Evidence that a dude received money, sure.It could lead to a case about fraud or embezzlement or whatever.Actual evidence of fixed matches or trophies won directly because of negreira? Literally nothing. Everyone knows there's nothing, but they're too deep in this shit to stop pushing the narrative now.
>>157850339>performance has nothing to do with being robbed by a massive corrupt side like the FarçalonaYou little cunts played Atletico, not Barça. Holy shit you're actually fucking schizophrenic and I'm starting to worry about you. Seek help.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sg74Rr99nw4
>>157850221Madrid has always complained about la liga refeering, nice fanfic though
>>157836932>He did it once with a bunch of penalties and scoring at 90+7 in 10 different gamesYou can tell the blundershitga rigged it for him in some games due to the sheer desperation to end Bayernwinslol, even if at least for one season.
>>157848990do you even know how to read? I said he was the reason they went that far, mbrappe was injured at the time last season, somehow blaming everything on him when the other wing is just useless is a bit much
WC was trash, mercato swapped every shitters from one team to anotherI'm supporting AS Roma as the only soul savior
>>157836824It's interestingMeanwhile you have Ajax which mostly cares about making a net profit from transfers and doesn't really care about trophies
>>157850489Barcelona played possession football for a long time which often leads to inferior teams resorting to murder ball to try winning the ball back. Spain NT has a similar positive red card record in that same time frame, even in the World Cup we saw how inferior teams like Argentina and Uruguay tried to murderball to win possession against Spain and were given red cards. This was literally how Barcelona used to operate. Real Madrid never played like that.
>>157832943They are going to follow Manuntied path
>>157832943Mou can always send Kekdrick for more print jobs, no big deal
>>157851872next level mental gymnastics
>>157832943It's not a coincidence that PSG won 2 CLs in a row when locker room cancer Mbappe left. Zlatan was a similar selfish asshole, left Inter, Inter won the CL then left Barca, Barca won the CL. Madrid should have stopped pursuing Mbappe the first time the negotiations failed. That was a sign from God to pick someone else, but Florentino is old and demented now.
Africa FC
>>157852519Mbappe to Madrid has been a huge success actually. When Ronaldo left it created a hole in shirt sale revenue but it was fixed when Mbappe joined. That's why Florentino wanted Mbappe so bad, it was a good business move.
>>157852646>le huge success
>>157852646Florentino is absolutely obsessed with trophies and not winning one is driving him insane. If he didn't why would he be cycling coaches over and over
Need to sell Vini to Arsenal in the summer if they still even want him.
>>157850375All points that Madrid doesn’t get go to benefit Farças. Two sides of the same equation: benefit Barcta, Harm Madrid
>>157850354Evidence of sistémica corruption You are in denial but in reality you know the true
>>157852646Bellingham is way more marketable than Mbacteria at this point.
>>157840628Xabi himself was one of those assassins but no one remembers for some reason
>>157847993based
>>157847993>>157857470Why would you lie? That’s are no the right numbers. Are you a paid shill?
